Postgame Thread: Astros, Giants offense defeat the Giants
by Natto on Aug 3, 2009 8:22 PM PDT
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PrintOne of the easiest traps for fans to fall into: blaming a single player for a loss. If only Joe Shlabotnik had hit a double in the fourth, we would have won! That ignores that the four hitters after Shlabotnik didn't reach base at all, for example. Losing is a team-wide endeavor.
But I still think I'll link to this article -- a look at the worst cleanup hitters since 1957 - about once every week. Molina's OPS+ right now has moved him into a tie for second worst in the past 52 years; he's in a tight race with Willie Kirkland from the 1962 Indians. That's just awesome.
Don't worry, though. Usually 34-year-old, out-of-shape catchers save their best work for September. I have a good feeling about this one.
Can we go home yet?
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That game was like being fed a cake made out of babies, pointing out that you object to baby consumption and then being shot in the balls by the enraged cook.
Not sure
but I think this was the link that Natto failed on so royally:
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/the-ten-worst-cleanup-hitters-since-1957/
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
/ hearing arcade fire
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only when the Giants play the WC team
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 4, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
LAME
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Also, it’s well known that he has a crippling fear of Fred Durst.
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by howtheyscored on Aug 3, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions
How much more evidence do you kneed that he’s a gamer?
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Know what’s funny? Edgar (.280) and Bengie (.289) have almost the same wOBA. Except one bats 4th and the other hits 7/8th.*
*Those are before tonight’s game, they’ll be a little closer after tomorrow.
*Those are before tonight’s game, they’ll be a little closer after tomorrow.
*I mean wOBA scores, not batting order positions. Just to clarify.
I starting to think Bengie batting cleanup is Sabeans call.
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by cybermaldonado on Aug 3, 2009 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I AM ALSO SENSITIVE TO THE FACT THAT I AM INCREDIBLY SLOW, EVEN THOUGH SELF-DEPRECATING HUMOR WOULD PROBABLY MAKE ME MORE LIKABLE.
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he's not out of shape
he’s just in the shape of a pear.
f**k, man, there's a beverage here!
by seesdifferent on Aug 4, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Probably. But if he’s that sensitive it must be killing him to be doing so bad in the cleanup spot. Maybe he’d FEEL better batting 7th.
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by cybermaldonado on Aug 3, 2009 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I know I’d feel better.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 4, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Could one of the computers around here give me some kind of idea
of how much lineup optimization tends to help a team (especially one with a shitty offense like ours)? And, as such, how much Bengie hitting 4th really hurts us?
And, speaking of, that’s one thing I’ve always wondered. We know Bengie is a bit of a whiner. What if he just won’t accept a move out of cleanup? And Bochy needs to keep him happy because like it or not, he’s our catcher, so he keeps starting him every day hitting 4th.
Kevin Pucetas lurks in the shadows, waiting for his time to shine.
Lineup shuffling = polishing BRASS!!! on the Titanic
In the big scheme of things, it probably doesn’t matter, but it sure would make me feel a whole lot better.
lol, Bengie scoring on a passed ball… ALMOST AS ABSURD AS GARKO SCORING ON A SUICIDE SQUEEZE!!!
/cries
I'm not sure
but just imagine how many runs a defense full of Bengies would give up
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this thread made me lol really hard. thank you.
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considering all of the oxygen breaks that play would require….
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 4, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
A lineup full o' Bengies . . .
Would post 3.55 runs/gm. Look at the RC27 line here. Most of his value is in his 11 dingers.
Sounds like a lot, I know. But if you really had a team where all your at bats were taken by guys who averaged 1 HR in every 32 ABs, you’d had a team that would manage to score a few runs.
I guess I don’t pay enough attention to the Dodgers. Russell Martin’s offense has gone to crap (although he’s still better than Bengie and of course not batting cleanup).
by NiceGuysFinishEtc on Aug 4, 2009 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Am I a bad guy . . . .
Why don’t my links ever post. Trying again, two different ways:
http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/batting/_/position/c/league/nl/type/sabermetric
by NiceGuysFinishEtc on Aug 4, 2009 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions
at this point
the team would be better with Whiteside every day hitting 7th/8th than with Molina batting cleanup
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“Accept” a move? He’s not like Bonds, whose ability gives him some leeway in how he’s used. He’s a middle-of-the-road player, with super crappy offense. It’s not like he should be able to determine the lineup based on his sense of entitlement.
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Srsly
we could easily start whiteside or move panda to C. I’m not sure why this hasn’t happened already, actually.
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yeah
I’d be ok with that mostly. Bring up Frandsen to be utility guy.
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Bingo
fuck you, bengie. GTFO if you can’t take the demotion you DESERVE after 2 months of shitty hitting
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2 months?
that’s generous.
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Meh
I’m over my Uribe hate. I hate that there is a juan uribe on this team, but the guy’s done what’s expected of him, and maybe even a little more. Whatev. I’d rather see him at the plate than Molina, that’s for damn sure.
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I don’t even hate that there’s a Juan Uribe on the team. He can back up 3/4 of the infield. He wasn’t signed to be more than a utility guy, and I’m ok with him in that role.
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True
I just remember how pissed I was that he made the team in April. But it was the right call, so yeah.
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Ahem, and I quote “AND WE KEPT JUAN FUCKIN URIBE”
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Aug 3, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh I remember, trust me
I FUCKING HATE JUAN URIBE was said many a time by yours truly.
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plus it’s super exciting when he crushes a foul ball, almost flies out of his shoes and falls out of the batter’s box!!
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Why not
he started every day for awhile and it worked. He’s better than Bengie
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One of the main problems with this franchise
Veterans’ feelings are considered way, WAYYYYYY, too much. Aurilia, the worst hitter on the planet? We can’t drop him! Molina, second worst hitter on the planet? We can’t move him from the cleanup spot!
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
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by thehavenot on Aug 3, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Seriously
who gives a shit if some washed up has-been doesn’t want to play for you because he’s upset? THAT MAKES THE TEAM BETTER, NOT WORSE. Thanks for what you’ve done guys, but when your career is over, it’s over. WTF are you doing here.
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object lesson: Alfonso Soriano
a spoiled “legend-in-his-own-mind” who has left a bad taste at every stop.
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by seesdifferent on Aug 4, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
At least he can hit dingerz
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This.
It should be about the team, and maximizing the team’s success. It’s not about individual players and what they want to do. Good lord.
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yeah right you HAVE to consider their feelings for when we have RICK AURILIA appreciation day in 2025 (the year when he finally retires)
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL “nut up”
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 4, 2009 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ve long held that any stupid managerial decision I see is squarely Bochy’s own. He has a dumb, you see.
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by howtheyscored on Aug 3, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions
/feels the hate flowing from the computer fan
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
It’s never good when the manager could close his eyes and randomly point and make a better decision than the one did.
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@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.
Who else?
Well, Bengie’s OBP is terrible because his walk rate is virtually non-existent. He had a higher AVG than OBP almost 3 months into the season this year (more SF than BB/HBP); seeing Bengie both draw a walk and hit a triple in the same season is worthy of printing up a commemorative t-shirt!
That said, if you eliminate Pable cause we want him hitting in the hole at #3, then who else do you put there? The only guy who has a better SLG is Rowand, and he was our leadoff hitter until this past weekend. But now that they’ve put Winn at leadoff, I think it might make sense to drop Rowand to cleanup until Bengie can hit better. He’s certainly regressed from last year, even though his AB/HR is still about the same; however his BB rate has dropped even more than usual (he’s on pace for just half of last year’s number, and it would be a career low) and he’s on pace for the most K’s of his career. He was probably the best Giant to have in that cleanup spot last year, when he led the team in HR, RBI and SF. And he leads in all 3 of those categories again this year. He’s not exactly Jeff Kent when you think “professional hitter,” but he still is one of the best Giants at getting in a runner from 3B w less than 2 outs – though if there’s also a guy on 1B I guess he’s also among the leaders at ending it the inning … (possible lesser known fact: Rowand was right behind Bengie in GDP last season, and is only 1 behind him this year; but Renteria actually leads the team in GDP.)
The problem is, excluding those guys down south who play in Petco, the Giants have the worst OBP, SLG and OPS in the league. On this team, I just don’t think you can put the traditional “power” hitter at cleanup on this team. Bengie’s AB/HR is still the3rd best on the team behind Sandoval. The one guy who has just a fractionally higher HR rate than him? Bowker. I think we’re in agreement Bowker shouldn’t be hitting cleanup even if he’s starting. Ishikawa is just behind him, and he’s not the right guy to bat there either. Bengie’s still got the 2nd highest isolated power on the team. The problem is his OPS is now nearly 100 pts lower than last year. Our cleanup batter still had the lowest OPS in the league last year – it’s just even more noticeable this season cause Bengie’s OPS is < 700.
Nope, since no one really hits for power on this team, I think the middle of the lineup should just be based on OPS, and we ignore HR. If you think Garko’s ready then he could slot in there, but otherwise we ask our “he’ll bat anywhere we ask him” guy: Aaron Rowand. From #2 on, Sanchez, Sandoval, Rowand, Garko/Ishikawa, Molina.
But I have faith in Bengie. He’ll won’t finish the season as cleanup hitter in the league. Woohoo Kouzmanoff and the Padres. Print up those t-shirts that say “Bengie is our Dave Kingman!”
Who else? Garko is a far better choice in the #4 then Molinia right now. So would be Rowand. As would be Nate. The thing is this is not a squad that is likely to produce extra base hits outside of Panda and to some extant Freddy Sanchez should regularly cough up some doubles and the rest is all about riding the hot hand. As for MOlinia’s ISO that is about like being the tallest dwarf on this squad. I am not the world biggest fan of Money ball but on a squad lacking power like this offense is 3/4rd about OBP. The rest have enough speed to take 90 feet on the other squads screw up and not making base paths screw ups your self (glances at Velez).
Outside of Lewis , Garko, and sometimes Panda the rest of this group of position players are a bunch of brain dead hackers with Freddy Sanchez probably the least so of the rest. So putting Garko behind Panda makes a lot of sense. If the #1 or Freddy Sanchez gets on odds are decent Panda will see a pitch he can do something with. If there are 2 runners on the one thing Garko does not seem to do it let the other pitcher off easy inside of 3-4 pitches. You put most pitchers in hot water and give them enough rope they will hang themselves for you, eventually. Use Rowand or whoever has the hot hand in #5.
As for lead off I am fine with Winn there vs RHP. Against LHP whoever is working the count consitantly and post decent OBP recently among the non lead feet, NOT WINN, players but for the rest of this season .
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
Velez is a better choice
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 4, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
<He was probably the best Giant to have in that cleanup spot last year, when he led the team in HR, RBI and SF. And he leads in all 3 of those categories again this year>
Actually, as far as I know, Sandoval leads the team in both HR’s and RBI’s.
by randolphforpresident on Aug 4, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
oh, nvm, you said if we eliminate pablo
by randolphforpresident on Aug 4, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
RBI and Sac Flies? Really?
I mean… ummm… buhh?
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by howtheyscored on Aug 4, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I missed the Pablo bunt
I guess Bochy didn’t bother to speak with Pablo after his dumb bunt yesterday (or day before?).
Giants are a rudderless ship.
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OR Bochy didn’t bother to speak with himself.
Something tells me that Pablo likes to swing the bat.
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by howtheyscored on Aug 3, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
[Boch singing “Man In The Mirror” to himself]
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s just cycling through the MJ catalog, though. The other day I heard him singing “bad.”
He kept saying, “I’m bad!” and I kept agreeing with him.
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by howtheyscored on Aug 3, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I noticed that when you were with him, he put his hand on your shoulder and said, “You are not alone. I am here with you.”
Thanks a lot
Now I have a mental image of Bochy on a stage with his shirt open…
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
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except Boch’s version goes I’m BORKING at the BORK in the BORK i’m BORKING him to BORK his BORK
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmmm…
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by howtheyscored on Aug 3, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I figured it out
The Giants were doing really well until MJ died. Then they started to tank. Bochy really is an MJ fan, the grief’s the reason he can’t get his mind around the basics of the game!
MOD FIGHT
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 3, 2009 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions
GRANT COUNTERS WITH "NOW NATTO'S NAME IS ATTACHED TO THAT PILE OF STEAMING ANALYSIS UP THERE"
by Grant Brisbee on Aug 3, 2009 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions
OH SNAP
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 3, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Who?
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 3, 2009 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I DO I DO I DO
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Whose Line is awesome.
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Fools and Sages
How the fuck did the Giants lose this game?
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by victor frankenstein on Aug 4, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
SITUATION BOCHY
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Boched
f**k, man, there's a beverage here!
by seesdifferent on Aug 4, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
okay so i asked when it happened: was it boch? someone replied that it was pablo’s [disturbing] idea. it’s happened twice in a few days.
Choppin' broccoli
I'm pretty sure he did it on his own
Pablo always seems to try to bunt when he sees the third basemen playing back. Dumb, dumb play.
not a great play usually, especially for a power hitter. I can agree with it sometimes if a guy is in a slump and it won’t affect the game, but this time, the situation called for Panda to hit a homer, not try to bunt for a hit.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 4, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Garko could have scored standing up
and Renteria was out by a mile.
I hand the blame for this game to the best third base coach in the game…. /eye_roll.exe
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by seesdifferent on Aug 4, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
109
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 3, 2009 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Let us count the ways.
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by howtheyscored on Aug 3, 2009 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions
fission mailed
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In positive news
I’m pretty sure my wallet got stolen last night. Fucking mid-west druggies
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Hooray!
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by howtheyscored on Aug 3, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions
/brain stroke
“It’s a situation where that obviously it’s prudent of us to keep an eye on,” Barry Axelrod said Monday. “We see the moves the Giants are making and continue to sort out exactly where Richie fits there. One thing we feel a little comfortable about is, we know (Bruce) Bochy’s fondness for staying with veterans and knowing what they can do off the bench. It’s something that comes down to numbers, and we don’t know where the numbers come out right now.”
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/08/03/SPGV1939P6.DTL#ixzz0NBNgjSNf
No shit.
I also like the notion that veterans have some crazy good skills that only translate once they come off the bench.
HIGH PRESSURE SITUATIONZZZZ
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could Bochy look any more like a homeless person?
I think I handed him a buck at 17th and Mission yesterday…
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by seesdifferent on Aug 4, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 4, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
win
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Aurilia’s careerat ain the crossroadshairs
fixed
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 4, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 3, 2009 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I feel kinda sad now that it’s about to happen.
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
it makes 100% sense.
but I just have that taking a very sick dog to the vet feeling.
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
I’m getting images of Richie peeing on the carpet uncontrollably now.
Thanks.
/rubs goatee in carpet
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"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
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They’re still gonna have to do something when Schierholtz gets back from the DL. I guess they could send Bowker down again….
noooooooooooooo
Bowkermania must live on!
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That seems likely. Schierholtz is eligible to come back August 11. (8 DAYS!!)
by kdl on Aug 3, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I feel nothing but gladness
thanks rich, but you shouldn’t be here in the first place.
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I do, a teensy bit. I don’t like to see anyone lose their job, but Richie has had an amazing (and long) career. He’s made a bunch of money playing a game I think anyone of us would kill to play.
Time to hang ‘em up, Richie. Maybe get you in the broadcast booth. Lord knows you can’t be any worse than JT on the mic.
What's he fighting with?
Taking that “mightier than the sword” thing a little too seriously.
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by victor frankenstein on Aug 4, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
we’re fighting because I interrupted him while he was drawing cock n balls on the ground.
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
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by victor frankenstein on Aug 4, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
this
f**k, man, there's a beverage here!
by seesdifferent on Aug 4, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
As Do I, but it's time to go.
I’ll just repost this here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxe0ehDNC9I
We love you to death Richie, but it’s time buddy.
LOL SFGate comments
Let Ritchie take his time to heal, don’t forget Dizzy Dean was never the same after rushing back too soon. Maybe they should transfer him to the 60day D.L.
/headdesk
by Gumbercules86 on Aug 3, 2009 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I read that as chiasmism, and I spent waaaay too much time trying to figure out how the fuck that was an example of chiasmus.
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by howtheyscored on Aug 3, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Sheesh
just looked that up on wikipedia. Made me so freaking glad I don’t have to take english anymore. Holy crap
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Chiasmus is pretty simple.
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by howtheyscored on Aug 4, 2009 7:17 AM PDT up reply actions
English flummoxes me
I like to think I’m decently smart about a lot of things but anything beyond basic grammar isn’t one of them
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It’s easiest just to think of Kennedy’s famous “Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country.”
It’s going from “A… B” to “B… A.”
Examplae: “Bengie Molina doesn’t eat to live… he lives to eat!”
That said, I’m not trying to convince you that this is awesome or anything. I just like this kind of thing. And I’ll take any stupid opportunity to talk about it.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Aug 4, 2009 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Examplae is Latin by the way.
/shifty eyes
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by howtheyscored on Aug 4, 2009 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
If by "crossroads" it means "end",
then I’m OK with it.
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You know things are bad
when you are cursing the fact that a pitcher couldn’t get down a suicide squeeze…
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
That wasn't a good suicide squeeze
That was an impossible suicide squeeze. It was a double play waiting to happen. It was a blessing that he struck out.
Because the Giants totally got that runner home, right?
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
That the AB following was also a fail does not change the fact that the initial fan was a catastrophe of epic proportions
I just wouldn't call it a blessing in disguise...
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
it wasn’t a suicide squeeze was it? It was a safety squeeze, right? Either way, it should not have been put on.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 4, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
OT
anyone else watch top gear? The ending to this season was AMAZING.
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wth channel is that on this season? the dvr is set up to record it, but never finds anything but the old reruns?
Welllll
the new ones that just got done showing won’t be on “tv” until probably later this year. I download all the new ones as they’re shown in the UK because I LOVE THAT SHOW OMG. Site called finalgear.com that links to the episodes as they’re available.
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i havn’t d/l’d this weeks episode, but its the last one of this cycle? nooo =(
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yup
pretty lame. None until November, and by the way they ended this episode it seemed like they weren’t ever coming back. Fortunately they ARE. YAY. This was the best one of the series, so I STRONGLY recommend you get it ASAP.
Also: ANOTHER TG FAN W0000
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got the torrent fired up already… i went to a concert sunday night so i forgot all about it
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Yo guys i got a question about tickets:
Ok, so i got Club seats for Fridays game and i’m just wondering if there’s any way i can trade for seats like down on the field level or arcade, so if anyone can help me out with how i can do that it would be awesome!
Ugh
I can’t get that Matsui homerun out of my head!
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
Whatever kills the most braincells, go with that
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
I hit my head against a desk that has a glass top, and then beneath the glass is a bunch of alcohol. That way, when I break through the glass I get to drink all the alcohol. And when I drink all the alcohol, I can continue banging my head against the bottom of the desk/bowl.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Aug 3, 2009 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, maybe the shards of glass kill you.
In most situations this wouldn’t be a plus, but it does keep you from seeing Bengie Molina bat cleanup.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
There is at least a pretty good chance that they go through your eyes.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Aug 3, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Pfah!
I remember this one game in ’84 or ’85 against the Padres at Jack Murphy Stadium that the Giants lost when Kevin McReynolds hit a ball down the line and it went THROUGH the chain link fence for a walk-off GRD. A dorky pop fly off the foul pole like this is no big psychological deal.
Believe it or not
We’ve discussed this particular abomination to humanity before.
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
I thought there was shit? Or is it just puke?
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Aug 4, 2009 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
X Girls, Y Cups.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Aug 4, 2009 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Matt Cain lost to Mike Hampton!
I think this loss is going to drive me crazy.
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
Mike Hampton!
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
That's almost as bad as losing to David Wells at this point!
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
Try not to get too worked up over the hyperbole
A lot of that goes around, here.
Also, I don’t care about his career. I care about his 81 ERA+ this season.
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
ERA is deceptive if you have a bandbox home field.
Jack Morris often had a huge (for the 1980’s) ERA due to pitching in Tiger Stadium but nobody doubted he was a winner.
ERA+ is adjusted (I think)
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Mike Hampton
Played AC Slater on Saved by the Bell
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Aug 3, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s a Handsome Man
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 4, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Kuip called him Sampson by mistake
and didn’t bother to correct it. Kuip was just trying the survive the combined effects of the Giants offense and the Bip’s non-sequitors.
f**k, man, there's a beverage here!
by seesdifferent on Aug 4, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I honestly feel, at this point, that Bengie could be hitting like .235/.240/.380 and Bochy would still hit him cleanup.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
I asked it during the game
What would Bengie have to do in order to cause Bochy to remove him from the number four spot?
OBP below .200? 4 DP game?
Oakland fans are lame. Frank Francisco is warming and no one is even saying anything. He should need a security detail every time he goes into the Coliseum.
short term memory
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions
The Epic Bengie Molina FanPost, Part 2
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2009/8/3/976328/the-return-of-the-suck-bengie
Some of you may recall part one of this discussion, linked within. Suffice it to say, Bengie is sucking at epic levals.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
would bat 5th
can’t upset benji’s fwagile widdle ego
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--Daisy Owl
I wish we had Brauny paper towels.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 4, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Bengie Molina
Buffalo Bill would make a better cleanup hitter than you at this point.
No you don’t.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Aug 3, 2009 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Im am still in awe. THE BASES WERE LOADED WITH ONE OUT, I HAD TO TURN THE RADIO OFF, WE WERE UP 2-0. Something terrible………..terrible must have happened.
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
Vic Scully on Kershaw: “Clayton Kershaw is 21 years old and getting older by the minute in this inning.”
Scully can still bring it.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
This is why I love Vin
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 3, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Vin was one of my inspirations and motivations to get into sports media. He’s a treasure and one of the last great broadcasters. Dodger lifer or not, he’s the F’in man.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 3, 2009 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
+1
At some point last year I mentioned how I liked listening to him and a WHOLE bunch of people derided me and said he was the embodiment of evil. It’s too bad he roots for the wrong team, but very few people can pull off a 1-man broadcast like he can.
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is Bip among the few?
f**k, man, there's a beverage here!
by seesdifferent on Aug 4, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Back in the late 80's
I lived in the Pismo Beach area for a couple of summers. Unfortunately, even though it is almost a midpoint on the map between LA & SF, it is considered an LA region for sports related programming.
So I got to listen to a lot of Vin Scully and Chick Hearn. Those So Cal scumbags got a lot better than they deserved in those two.
aren’t we all getting older by the minute?
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 4, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
banned for "snatch"
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by seesdifferent on Aug 4, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Nothing will come from it
But when the Reds come to town, the Giants get to face a pitcher named HOMER.
Haha? LOL?
Okay goodnight.
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
Will you be here all week?
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Aug 3, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
all season!!
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
We should get 40,000 signs made that say “Benji Must Hit 8th!” and hand them out to everyone as they go in the stadium Friday with instructions on what time to hold them up all at once. Maybe we could get Carl’s Jr. or Outback, or some other fat restaurant to chip in on the signs in exchange for their logo on the other side
Can Botcher read?
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by seesdifferent on Aug 4, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Someone on the D. Bruce show actually just said Molina was sucking because his feelings were hurt due to the Giants not giving him an extension yet. And, needless to say Damon agreed Bengie needs a contract extension and then mumbled something about how Bengie would hit 15 more HR this year.
Is this garbage for real? It sounds like some sort of disinformation campaign the way Bengie is protected on KNBR and by the Giants broadcasters..
Do not meddle in the affairs of GM's, for they are subtle and quick to anger.
He said that if he hits 15 HRs for the rest of the year they should give him a contract extension, but if why should we commit money to this guy, THAT’S what he’s saying. I always listen to the guy when i’m working out just to hear all these guys call in and bitch
TWSS
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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m perplexed by how often that show turns into the “Bengie Molina Love Fest Hour”. I live in AZ and because of KNBR I thought everyone in the Bay loved Molina – until I found this blog.
Do not meddle in the affairs of GM's, for they are subtle and quick to anger.
by cybermaldonado on Aug 3, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Damon Bruce actually said that Bumgarner has a Ztio-like curveball…
I’m not sure if I’ve mentioned this already somewhere before.
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
I’m realizing that getting mad at Molina for sucking is completely misplaced anger.
Bochy is the one who’s charged with putting the best lineup on the field, in an order that maximizes the chances for getting on base and scoring runs. Molina is actually hurting the Giants chances of winning the game by batting cleanup. Or arguably, by batting at all.
So I choose to be pissed off at Bochy, because it’s a righteous anger. And also, it’s fun.
"He is Tim Lincecum...the Most Interesting Pitcher in the World."
totally not misplaced. who says one cannot be mad at both. for boch’s lack of ability as a manager, play calling, situational decisions, lineups, et al. and molina’s obp, lack of discipline, terrible defense slowness, and woosy soft ego, we have the right to be royally pissed off as fans.
meh, bengie’s pop died fairly suddenly not too long ago. He gets a pass from me. If i’m the manager, and i see that something is off with my guy, i’m not going to trot him out in high pressure situations all year long. bochy gets 100% of the blame.
On 5/7, the best part of waking is up LOLDGERS in my cup.
Wait wait wait, Jason Heyward is only 19? Not fair.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
DODGER COMEBACK?
SHIT THAT’S FUCK
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 3, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL MANNY
Bowkermania is back again, brother...for real this time.
by rightcenterfielder on Aug 3, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
SUCK IT RUSSEL MARTIN
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CLOLAYTON KERSHAW
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4H, 6 BB
21 I think
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those innings are going to catch up to him this year. Once the Dodgers realize they have an unstable bililngsly, a kershaw that has thrown too many innings, and Randy Wolfe in the playoffs, the might go “oh shit why didn’t i trade for cliff lee”
ned colLOLtti
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what you said
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by seesdifferent on Aug 4, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
lol wow @ that.. manny was up... scary scary :)
If my head is full of white hairs by the end of this season.. I blame Brian Wilson. (I'm only 22, dammit!)
SUCK IT RUSSEL MARTIN
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 3, 2009 10:12 PM PDT reply actions
That's some strong trolling there
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 3, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
was there anything original/funny that got deleted? or was it just “bengie needs to die” crap?
by sliderinthedirt on Aug 3, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Baggs with attempted perspective
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
I was just making my way to the Molina entry, too. Based on what people were saying in the other entries, it sounds like some guy went a little too crazy in the comments section.
BAN HAMMER
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 3, 2009 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, I just downloaded Mega Man X
I’m pretending that our catcher just acquired the assortment of a Dr. Light manufactured helmet, gun, leg plates and body armor. Yes. Yes, if he destroyed all the other catchers in the league and purloined their powers, he would be acceptable. Would that life mirrored art.
Buster
well…. the greatest thing about bengie is that he’s done after this year and we have Posey to come up and jacks to play some great D behind the plate. I cant wait for the day the 4 hole is occupied by someone else on a regular bases.
Did I miss much?
I didn’t see the game. I’ve been sick the past couple days and I was asleep most of the day. All I know is the Giants lost to Mike Hampton (whom they never beat anyway. Hampton is 15-4 career vs. SF) and Bengie Molina sucks.
Fixed it!
I’d say the team basically did alright but several coaching errors gave the game away
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Aug 3, 2009 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions
clap.... clap.... clap...clap clap clap clapclapclap
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 3, 2009 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions
lolwut
love it. And the timmy silhouette is pure win
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LOL BENGIE
LOL OFFENSE
LOL ROAD SUCKINESS
LOL NO DINGERZ
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 4, 2009 6:21 AM PDT reply actions
is that garko’s face?
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clap........ clap......... clap....... clap...clap..clap.clapclapclapclap
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 4, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL LOL
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LOL 3rd base coach
f**k, man, there's a beverage here!
by seesdifferent on Aug 4, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Cross Rios off the wish list
baggs: Hi Nathan. I asked Giants officials specifically about Rios and was told the money was prohibitive. No team in the majors took on more salary at the deadline than the St. Louis Cardinals, and that was less than $7 million. You just aren’t going to see teams take on salary in this economy. Since Rios remains a relatively productive player, I’m sure Toronto has no interest in moving him if they’ve got to eat most of his salary to do so.
Live chat with baggs going on right now
If this is the case...
Neukom and Sabean lied.
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 4, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
oh jponry will be disappointed
11:35
[Comment From peter]
What do you think of advanced defensive stats like UZR. Those stats seem to say that F. Lewis is a good left fielder – but my eyes and experience tell me Lewis is not very good.
11:38
baggs: I agree, Peter. But UZR doesn’t measure “good defense.” It measures range. Just because you can get to a ball doesn’t mean you’re going to catch it, or throw to the right base, etc. Lewis is an erratic defensive outfielder, and that, as much as any other reason, is why he lost his starting job. The Giants can’t afford to bumble the ball behind their pitching staff.
There is no overarching stat to measure overall defensive ability. You have to take bits of pieces, and of course, combine any statistical analysis with the impressions you get with these wonderful things called eyeballs. Like most things in life, a mixed, well rounded approach is always the best one.
ffffffffuuuuu
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Lewis actually has a pretty good arm, though. And having good range does kind of help you catch the ball. You know, because you get to more of them, and also because the ones that are harder for other people are now easier for you. It doesn’t make your ability to catch better, but it does make it easier to catch more balls.
So… yeah…
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Aug 4, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
/ SIGH
no riosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosriosrios …
/ more sigh
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
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