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Giants/Astros Series Preview

The Astros are.... See, the thing about the Astros is....

Ugh.

Hitter to watch:

Uh, I don't know. The fat one?

Pitcher to watch:

Mike Scott. Pretty sure that dude's scuffing the ball.

Conclusion:

Star-divide

Yeah, writing about the Astros is like writing about actuary tables. Don't get me wrong; Houston's still close to .500, and they could absolutely take every single game in the series. I'm not disparaging them. It's just that they're a little dull. They have hitters -- Lance Berkman is still an on-base beast, Carlos Lee is still a thumper, and Miguel Tejada's having a nice little renaissance season -- but somehow they've only scored a handful more runs than the Giants.

The pitching used to be much more mockable before the release of Russ Ortiz. Wandy Rodriguez is a fantastic pitcher, a cautionary tale for those who are constantly ready to give up on Jonathan Sanchez. Roy Oswalt is Roy Oswalt. But for a while, the Astros had a rotation with Russ Ortiz, Mike Hampton, and Brian Moehler. Brian Moehler! I'm pretty sure he was teaching chemistry last year. (Actually, he was throwing some good innings for the Astros in 2008, but you get the point.) Making this series more actuary-table-like is that the Giants have the good fortune of missing both Oswalt and Rodriguez. That's a durn shame.

And while the Astros are getting some fantastic bullpen work this season, it's more in the spirit of the "close-your-eyes-and-hope-it-continues-to-work-out" relief that the Giants are getting, and not the "crazy-live-armed-relievers-who-just-struck-you-out-while-reading-this" variety. LaTroy Hawkins, who I think was traded for Tim Alderson at some point, is throwing high-leverage innings for Houston. For every Justin Miller and Brandon Medders the Giants can throw out on the mound -- relievers whose stuff and strikeout numbers don't match up with their shiny ERAs -- the Astros can counter with Chris Sampson and Tim Byrdak. Tim Byrdak! I'm pretty sure he was teaching falconry to needy children last year. It should be a strangely productive bullpen slapfight of epic proportions.

What the Astros remind me most of are the Giants clubs from the last days of Barry Bonds and Jason Schmidt. The farm's in a bad way, and the team is kinda sorta contending through the technicality of the wild card. Maybe Berkman and Oswalt wouldn't want to be dealt, and maybe big ticket items like Lee and Tejada are impossible to deal, but I get the feeling that the Astros weren't really in the market to do anything. It makes me appreciate the White Flag deal even more from the White Sox perspective, as it's so, so easy to hang on to crazy visions of replicating the Rockies' run to the World Series in 2007, but that really is a once-in-a-generation thing.

So my message to Astros fans is this: We probably could have traded Jason Schmidt for Ryan Howard or Hanley Ramirez. But then we wouldn't have had the compensatory pick that turned into Tim Alderson, which then turned into Freddy Sanchez, which is going to turn into at least two straight titles. Right? Right? So you guys are on the right track. Just hang onto your guys, lose a lot, draft well, trade the prospects away, and hope the knee of your new franchise second baseman isn't filled with Cream of Wheat.

Prediction:

The Giants will score fewer than 23 runs this series.  But those were a fun couple of games in July, right?

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I'm going to go out on a limb here

And say the giants take 2 of the 3 games.

by Josh L on Aug 3, 2009 12:27 PM PDT reply actions  

One of the teams will win two games or there will be a sweep.

by biff pocoroba on Aug 3, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Frustrating pitcher who shouldnt dominate us but will:

Brian Moehler

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Aug 3, 2009 12:28 PM PDT reply actions  

I always get him and Joe Boever confused.

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Aug 3, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m just hoping I get to ASTLOL a lot

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by satyricrash on Aug 3, 2009 12:29 PM PDT reply actions  

And Disastros

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by CB30 on Aug 3, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s also top shelf.

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by satyricrash on Aug 3, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good one

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

When I played LL we used to refer to the “Astros” team as Ass-hoes. Juvenile, yes. But we were, uh, juveniles so.

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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also:
the Rockies’ run to the World Series in 2008

I’m thinking that this was not last year but the year before, dear Grant sir.

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by satyricrash on Aug 3, 2009 12:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Series in Houston always seem to be a big ugly for us. I’m hoping to steal one game.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 3, 2009 12:32 PM PDT reply actions  

that’s funny. I pretty much remember dominating them in Houston. Of course we had HR hitters back then.

Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!

by rxmeister on Aug 3, 2009 1:36 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

If I remember right

We had an epic Wilson implosion in Houston last year.

by paboperfecto on Aug 3, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, that was a home game against Houston. I remember being ticked because I was in Houston on a business trip and the Astros were in California.

by paboperfecto on Aug 3, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

We had that game where Backe shut us out (sandwiched between two 10 ER outings for him) and a game where Bochy pinch hit Aurilia for Ishikawa in like the 4th inning.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 3, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

two 11 run games, actually

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
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by jcb9 on Aug 3, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

This gets me every time

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by CB30 on Aug 3, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

goddammit

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 3, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lance Berkman is on the DL. Is Carlos Lee fat? He doesn’t look so good in those pinstriped pants.

Oh and you recall the Hunter Pence story where he ran through a sliding glass door? He had broken glass sticking out of his skin and everything. This happened a few days after I decided to keep him in my fantasy league.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 3, 2009 12:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Giants can clean up in Aug,

Rockies sched is bad.

f**k, man, there's a beverage here!

by seesdifferent on Aug 3, 2009 12:36 PM PDT reply actions  

GOOD LUCK JOEY

how long is his leash, do you think? If he gets rocked, is this his only start?

Kevin Pucetas lurks in the shadows, waiting for his time to shine.

by Sammy Danger on Aug 3, 2009 12:37 PM PDT reply actions  

The Giants way

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by CB30 on Aug 3, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably, but they did give :(owski 4 or 5 starts. Though, that was probably because he started 2-0

Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 3, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

It probably depends on which veteran starters pass through waivers.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 3, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

/patiently waiting for the LA series

Wandy’s pretty good at home, pretty meh on the road. So I’m sure he’ll shut us out.

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Aug 3, 2009 12:37 PM PDT reply actions  

We miss him

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by CB30 on Aug 3, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

No Wandy and no Oswalt, it’s Christmas in August for the Giants in Houston. We do get Paulinlol, Hampton and Moehler.

Mo'ped Money, Mo'ped Problems

by Scooter Ellis on Aug 3, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

One of those pitchers is going to throw a 7-hit CG SO in this series.

by snafu on Aug 3, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’ll be Hampton

I wanted to adopt, but all the good looking babies were taken

by joeytothelimit on Aug 3, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

SUCK IT, MIKE SCOTT

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on Aug 3, 2009 12:39 PM PDT reply actions  

GREATEST UNIFORMS EVER

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 3, 2009 12:44 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

So bad

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by CB30 on Aug 3, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t remember the numbers on the pants. I think the Taco Bell jersey design required my full attention.

by CrispinGloversBalls on Aug 3, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

greatest

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Aug 3, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

indeed

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 3, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Although

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by jcb9 on Aug 3, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

exhibit b and C

they’re probably not worse than the Shorts and Collared look, but…

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 3, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

THE PADRES need ot bring back that look! Navy and Sand? AWFUL.

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by satyricrash on Aug 3, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Poor old Johnny Ray...

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Aug 3, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

…sounded sad upon the radio…

by younghutch on Aug 3, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

…moved a million hearts in mono.

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by EliminateMe on Aug 3, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

those uniforms are awesome

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 3, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow. That is just so very bad. Somehow I’ve missed out on those.

It's my blarg! Quick Pitch

by can of corn on Aug 3, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do love wide collars and hot pants.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 3, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

WOW

Uniforms that actually make those Astros’ stripes look good…

by Jakespaar on Aug 3, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

And...

When did Carl Weathers play for Chicago?

by Jakespaar on Aug 3, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I liked the jerseys, but the cap is fugly.

by Natto on Aug 3, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

They look like ice cream.

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 3, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

ewwwwww neopolitan

"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."

by KINGofCRA5H on Aug 3, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

If the numbers were in the stars and not on the pants these would be pretty sweet

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Aug 3, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol… Nolan Ryan already working on his comb-over!

by KrazyKrabMeat on Aug 3, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lest we forget

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like hoe they didn’t redesign the pants!

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Aug 3, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

yo

I’m down wit hoe 2

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Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Aug 3, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can’t find it now, but the Royals future uniform was even worse.

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by jcb9 on Aug 3, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Link

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Aug 3, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

All of those are just terrible

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by CB30 on Aug 3, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

MLOLB

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Aug 3, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

The one I was thinking of was a bit different

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Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 3, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is that Damon?

I forgot he was a Royal

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by CB30 on Aug 3, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like the one that says “India.” MLB goes global!

by Evan on Aug 3, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

2020 expansion team

The Mumbai Not That Kind Of Indians

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by EliminateMe on Aug 3, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn’t notice this before, but the Turn Ahead the Clocks didn’t predict the Future very well…I have never heard of the Anaheim Angels

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Aug 3, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

They weren't totally off.

Notice how it’s “Rays” not “Devil Rays”

by goGSW24 on Aug 3, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

in the future, no one has arms.

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 3, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

In the future, we can hit home runs with our minds.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 3, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tim already strikes out people that way

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by SoFa King Mike on Aug 3, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not if you’re the Phillies at AT+T

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by satyricrash on Aug 3, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

hey-o!

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is it wrong that I like the design of the D’Backs jersey?

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 3, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like it too

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Aug 3, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know you anymore.

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Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Aug 3, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh man that’s rough

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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU LOVE METH

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by satyricrash on Aug 3, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

fixed

RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU LOVE METH HOCKEY

larrrrrrrrry walker rulez

"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"

by The Gene Hackman on Aug 3, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

EVIL BARRY BONDS IS SO EVIL HE LIKES THESE HORRIBLE FUTURE UNIFORMS BECAUSE HE’S EVIL

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by satyricrash on Aug 3, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

they look like pajamas

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 3, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

silver helmets LOL shoulda had rayguns on their belts

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

She was super hot.

It's my blarg! Quick Pitch

by can of corn on Aug 3, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

viddividdividdi

holy CRAP , Buck…

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Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Aug 3, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder how come no teams use this color. Houston and Arizona are the closest, but not really.

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by satyricrash on Aug 3, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Remember the O's?

I dug the 70’s Orioles team…not hot on this alternate uni…I heard Cal Trans found these in a dumpster and recycled them.

"It kind of gives everybody else out there who is not a big person the motivation and the inspiration that they know they can do it, too."--Tim Lincecum

by Timlincecum.com on Aug 3, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

i like those

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

It;s the four 20 game winners on the 1971 Orioles — Mike Cuellar, Pat Dobson, Dave McNally and Jim Palmer — I see orange people…

Still Missing 'Downtown' Brown

by Big Country on Aug 3, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Palmer definitely looked better in his briefs.

Wait , I mean…

…oh no.

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Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Aug 3, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brother Elephants LOL

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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

There’s also the Uni-President 7-Eleven Lions.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 3, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have a Brother Elephants shirt!

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Aug 3, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

do you wear it underneath that oldjacket?

by jctGamer on Aug 3, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

new shirt with an old jacket

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Aug 3, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

short shirt old jacket

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 3, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s a song by Pie, right?

by kaliber on Aug 3, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 3, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

JR Richard was a tall dude. Makes Nolan Ryan look Lincecumish

Still Missing 'Downtown' Brown

by Big Country on Aug 3, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know

I actually LIKe the old Astros jerseys. Other examples from below…not so much.

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on Aug 3, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

This series has reverse lock all over it: no Oswalt, no Wandy, Berkman out.

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 3, 2009 12:46 PM PDT reply actions  

So you’re saying we’re doomed?

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by EliminateMe on Aug 3, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Watching the Giants beat up on Cole Hamels last night, it occurred to me that the current lineup should be pretty strong against lefties. Sanchez, Rowand, Molina, Renteria, and Garko all have huge career platoon splits, while only Sandoval and whoever’s in left are better against righties.

This bodes well against Hampton tonight, and in potential playoff matchups with the Dodgers or Phillies. Not so well against the Cards or Rockies. Not that I’m counting my chickens or anything.

by Evan on Aug 3, 2009 12:47 PM PDT reply actions  

And this year, Sandoval’s actually been better against lefties.

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Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 3, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s really just BABIP, but yeah, it’s close. We’re clearly stronger against lefties.

by Evan on Aug 3, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL 4 Leftie SP Phillies!

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Aug 3, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

when schierholtz gets back, that might be mitigated somewhat

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Aug 3, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Depends on how he’s used. I think the best outfield lineup if everyone is healthy is Bowker or Lewis/Winn/Schierholtz vs. RHPs and Torres/Rowand/Winn vs LHPs, but of course Rowand isn’t going to hit the bench, and there are a lot of players in need of at-bats. Bochy is going to have a lot of juggling to do. More double-switches!

by Evan on Aug 3, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uhhh, despite the small sample size, Juggernate has hit lefties waaaay fucking better than righties this season.

vs. LHP (30 ABs) .467/.469/.767
vs. RHP (163 ABs) .264/.295/.362

by snafu on Aug 3, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I stopped reading after “despite the small sample size.”

by Evan on Aug 3, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

NEXT YOU WILL BE SUGGESTING EUGENIO VELEZ IS NOT ACTUALLY A SUPERSTAR-CALIBER HITTER!!!

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
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by jcb9 on Aug 3, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha true, small sample sizes aren’t worth much, but I just think that the notion that left handed hitters ALWAYS bat better against right handed pitching and vice-versa is not the case.

by snafu on Aug 3, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

But those lefties he is hitting are probably crappy relievers

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Aug 3, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

And

The pitch that has plagued Nate, Ishikawa, and especially Bowker is that slider at the back food and that’s not a concern against lefties. I think that is one reason why Nate’s splits are better against LH, small sample size be damned.

by I'm_a_Man on Aug 3, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

speaking of back food, I need to go get lunch.

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah but it shows how bad he’s been vs. RHP, which shows that almost every RHP throws him that curveball at his feet.

Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!

by Azmanz on Aug 3, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

In the minors, he was better against righties, but not by a ginormous margin.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 3, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Phillies need to man up and beat the Rockies in their series

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by CB30 on Aug 3, 2009 12:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh, they would

After all, they have the best outfield in baseball, a MVP SS, a superstud 2B, a superstud 1B and a happy 3B. Wait, how the hell did the Giants contained this offense again for 4 straight games?

Mo'ped Money, Mo'ped Problems

by Scooter Ellis on Aug 3, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

ITS DA PARK! ITS NOT PLAY FAIR!

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Aug 3, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was pretty funny. Whiny pants.

It's my blarg! Quick Pitch

by can of corn on Aug 3, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

The park was too big for wittle bats

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by CB30 on Aug 3, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I lol’d

Proud new co-dad of Travis Ishikawa. And ishikaBOOM Goes the Dynamite.

by Andy from DC on Aug 3, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, how I would have loved to see the matchup of current albatross vs. former albatross. Fate would not have it, apparently.

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Aug 3, 2009 12:51 PM PDT reply actions  

That would have been great. What a shame.

by Evan on Aug 3, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

needs more Kevin Brown and Carl Pavano

by jctGamer on Aug 3, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

as closers

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Aug 3, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m back from a few days away. Thanks for holding down the fort guys. Gotta love leaving and coming back with things in better shape.

Debating whether to see Timmy on Friday or Dirty on Monday.

by positiveuphemism on Aug 3, 2009 1:04 PM PDT reply actions  

So….are you back from the past or the future? If it’s the future don’t ruin the series for us…..

by paboperfecto on Aug 3, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

it’s the power of love

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

IMPORTANT

Is Biff a bully or is he now sucking up to your parents?

I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water

by jhiat00 on Aug 3, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well, we’re not the ones actually playing. I’m pretty sure those 25 guys aren’t looking ahead of Houston.

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by satyricrash on Aug 3, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

i’m so blased

I choose to watch the Giants try to score runs. Not because it is easy, but because it is hard.

by GiantPain on Aug 3, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wish I were

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it will be easy. No Berkman, Oswalt or Rodriguez. A short 3 day trip so no jet lag or the normal long road trip blues. We’re hot, they’re not. We are fired up with our recent deals and they are falling out of the race. Rxmeister predicts sweep.

Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!

by rxmeister on Aug 3, 2009 1:44 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Heroine is so blase

I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water

by jhiat00 on Aug 3, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh my goth.

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by satyricrash on Aug 3, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Knowing our road woes, salvaging 1 game in Houston would be realistic~

by nataku on Aug 3, 2009 1:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Mike Hampton will dominate us in one game. It’s inevitable.

by xanthan on Aug 3, 2009 1:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Why do you say that?

From MLB.com Preview:

HOU: LHP Mike Hampton (6-8, 5.36 ERA)
He’s 15-4 with a 3.59 ERA in 26 career appearances (23 starts) against the Giants.

by scout6 on Aug 3, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ooof.

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is not as bad as it looks

Most of those numbers are against players that are not on the team anymore.

Edgar .306 in 36 AB
Winn .111 in 9 AB
Mole .000 in 8 AB
Molina .000 in 6 AB
Lewis .500 in 6 AB
Rowand .000 in 5 AB
Lolribe .333 in 3 AB
Panda .667 in 3 AB

SSS and all that jazz…

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 3, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

True

But Hampton may come in with a the mindset that he owns us. Mindset will definitely help his pitching.

Hopefully the Giants burst out of the gate and wreck him.

by scout6 on Aug 3, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

most of Hampton’s wins against us were ten arm surgeries ago

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by rxmeister on Aug 3, 2009 2:13 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Plus he’ll smack a hr, prompting an AFLAC trivia question about leading hr totals among active pitchers named Mike.

by younghutch on Aug 3, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I fully expect to see Rowand run up the centerfield hill, smack square into the poll, then roll his ankle on the way down.

He will be treated then play in the following game.

by scout6 on Aug 3, 2009 1:40 PM PDT reply actions  

That hill is really, really stupid.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 3, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

AT ATT PARK WE HAVE NO HILLZ

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Aug 3, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

U CANT HIT HOMERZ THERE ITS NOT FAIR

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by satyricrash on Aug 3, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously

HAY GUYZ LETS PUT A HILL IN THE FIELD LOLZ

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by CB30 on Aug 3, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is absolutely ridiculous.

by shark94112 on Aug 3, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

They should jazz it up by placing some tombstones out there or something.

by younghutch on Aug 3, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Someone – I think it was Edmonds – chasing a fly ball some years ago tripped and did a serious faceplant there.

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Aug 3, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Today's LOLineup

LF Velez
2B Sanchez
3B Sandoval
C Molina
1B Garko
CF Rowand
SS Renteria
RF Winn
P Cain

Molina back in the clean-up spot, where he so-rightly belongs. /sarchasm

It's my blarg! Quick Pitch

by can of corn on Aug 3, 2009 1:51 PM PDT reply actions  

BORK BORK BORK, RBIS, BORK BORK

by scout6 on Aug 3, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

BORK!

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by satyricrash on Aug 3, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Molina does sort of hit lefties OK, but yeah he still should be lower.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Aug 3, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, NEEDS MORE URINE

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Aug 3, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

twss?

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I LOL’D

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by satyricrash on Aug 3, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

We know who is who

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by CB30 on Aug 3, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

holy shit you are right

by jctGamer on Aug 3, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha totally

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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

great film.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 3, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

love that movie (inspired me to get diabetes)

by big beaner on Aug 3, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 3, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

green

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Aug 3, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

So Molina is what, the sixth-best hitter in that lineup?

by Evan on Aug 3, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

very nice.

this lineup has upgraded my butt pee from green to a brownish-yellow.

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Aug 3, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

thats quite the upgrade.

"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."

by KINGofCRA5H on Aug 3, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Other than Molina

I only hate this lineup a little

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by CB30 on Aug 3, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Velez in left field scares me……..

by 49er16 on Aug 3, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Velez in left the field scares me

by younghutch on Aug 3, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's C Molina, not B Molina

"Hey old-timer, where am I ?"

"You won't get there from here."

by pynchon59 on Aug 3, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I predict Garkolounger will get it going a little in Houston.

by out machine on Aug 3, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

he’s supposed to smash lefties + a short porch in left, he may come out tonight ahead.

by Bryappie on Aug 3, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Please let one of Molina’s deep fly outs at ATT Park turn into dingers in Houston to justify him hitting clean-up. Hell, all the right handed hitters should hit dingers there!

Mo'ped Money, Mo'ped Problems

by Scooter Ellis on Aug 3, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

HEY JOEY

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Aug 3, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am not looking forward to replays of his injury. Ugh.

by snafu on Aug 3, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

yea that was pretty brutal, i remember watching that and just turned away from the TV and couldnt watch it anymore

by PiKAgiant on Aug 3, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

JOEY

JOEY

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 3, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I’m really tired of that style of nickname.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 3, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

What, you don’t like P-Sand?

by jctGamer on Aug 3, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

not even Man Ram?!?!

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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reason #845 Why I’m not a Major League Baseball Player: My nickname would be pronounced B-Hole

by snafu on Aug 3, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Better than A-Hole though.

by younghutch on Aug 3, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could be J-Burn, which wouldn’t be awful as those kinds of nicknames go.

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Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 3, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

K-Plo

Sounds too much like ka-plooie

"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.

by hairball on Aug 3, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

When you hit a jack they’d be all like:
“K-Plo goes KA-PLOOIE!”

by scout6 on Aug 3, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I liked calling Lofton K-Lo though

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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

If the 2nd letter of your first name is “o” then you could be MoFo.

As in, “Look at that MoFo running down the line!”

by younghutch on Aug 3, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its not. its an "I"

MiFo. Doesn’t work either.

by scout6 on Aug 3, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

And hey, my wife would be C-Yu, which would be pretty good.

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by jcb9 on Aug 3, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

B-App Or B-Apple not so much

by Bryappie on Aug 3, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Go with Br-App, which is the sound of a fart made while wearing shorts on a plastic cushion in a golf cart.

Trust me.

by younghutch on Aug 3, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

He may have obsessive-complusive disorder, or as it’s sometimes called, The OC Disorder.

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Aug 3, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn, that got shot down quick. How about…

JoMar?
J-Marty?
McFly?
Comeback Kid?

Mo'ped Money, Mo'ped Problems

by Scooter Ellis on Aug 3, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

That type of nickname is so ESPN. You might as well add a BOOYA!! after it.

J-MART! BOOYA!

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 3, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Joe Martinez is a scratch for tonight.

 Expect the call up to start for the Giants.
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Say Hey Say Willie, that Giant Kid is Great!

by merkin on Aug 3, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Since we could still use a backup OF who can hit righties, what do you guys think of Ty Wigginton?

Plays decent defense in the OF corners, can play 1B/3B in a pinch, and has historically been very effective against lefties. He’ll likely make it through waivers.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Aug 3, 2009 1:55 PM PDT reply actions  

isn’t wiggy a 3B?

by jctGamer on Aug 3, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s sort of a right-handed Aubrey Huff, defensively.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Aug 3, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

And isn’t he right-handed?

by Evan on Aug 3, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I meant to say lefties in the original post. Typo.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Aug 3, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK, got it. As I wrote above, the team overall seems a lot better against lefties than against righties, so I’m not sure we really need another RH bench bat. Unless Torres isn’t coming back or something.

by Evan on Aug 3, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only guy we have in the OF who can hit lefties is Rowand. Schierholtz can sort of do it, but Wigginton has been better than him for his career.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Aug 3, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Torres has killed lefties this year – and he can play defense

by OTTOMATIC on Aug 3, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I suppose, but he is fairly unproven.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Aug 3, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry, replied without checking thread context any further back than the one preceding yours.

by kaliber on Aug 3, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think he meant hit lefties

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by CB30 on Aug 3, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

fun quote from a philly blog

The inning the Giants took the lead was filled with bloop hits and a lot of luck. Cole did not get hammered and pitched relatively well against a Giants team that scares me a little. I really hope we don’t see these guys in the playoffs. Hell, we didn’t even see Cain and still lost 3 of 4. Lets bounce back against the Rocks.

I choose to watch the Giants try to score runs. Not because it is easy, but because it is hard.

by GiantPain on Aug 3, 2009 2:03 PM PDT reply actions  

C’mon Phillies, bounce back!

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Aug 3, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

seriouly. Pound the Rox please.

by jctGamer on Aug 3, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I vote yes on this. Where’s the poll ?

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by nvsfg on Aug 3, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I find myself torn

If two NL West teams make it to the playoffs, I would much rather it be the Giants and Rockies, than the Giants and Bums, so I have found it hard to root against the Rox.

When we lose I hope they lose so we don’t lose ground, but I focus more energy on hexing the Dodgers.

by scout6 on Aug 3, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

It doesn’t have to be all bad. Imagine how exciting a Giants/Dodgers NLCS would be?

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Aug 3, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

But think how happy we would all be, if after all the season long talk of how great the Dodgers are and how they had the best record for so long, etc if they don’t make the playoffs at all and are unseated by two NL West teams.

I would relish that more then a Giants/Dodgers NLCS.

by scout6 on Aug 3, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, but

how realistic is that really?

by Jakespaar on Aug 3, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

7 games back with 2 months left to play including 3 series against the offending team. Stranger things have happened in the world of baseball.

by scout6 on Aug 3, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ugh

Dodger schedule in September is a cakewalk though.

by scout6 on Aug 3, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Praying for wheels to fall off

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

1951…1951…1951…1951

Say it with me…

1951…1951…1951…1951

by younghutch on Aug 3, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Except that year it was more like SF going on a 37-7 tear down the stretch to tie the Bums instead of the wheels falling off for LA, wasn’t it?

by boogalou on Aug 3, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

i’d take either, or both, preferably

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by ringleader3 on Aug 6, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

If you do the math, LA was up by 13.5 games in mid August, so they had to go about 24-20 the rest of the way, ergo, they had a mini-implosion.

by boogalou on Aug 7, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

sw00n

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by ringleader3 on Aug 3, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

no way giants/dodgers getting to the playoffs potentially sets up giants/dodgers for the NLCS!

by FPTV on Aug 3, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do not see both the Giants and Rockies finishing ahead of the Dodgers this year.

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Aug 3, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not saying its gonna happen.

But thinking about it gives me a warm feeling. Ah, Optimism.

by scout6 on Aug 3, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here , take this - it'll help.

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Aug 3, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ozk7fnKilU

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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh , thanks.

He said “Where were you on the night of July 29?”

I was in Vegas getting married.

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Aug 3, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does howdy doody got wooden balls?

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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

i’d be scared of cain, too.

"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."

by KINGofCRA5H on Aug 3, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just realized the 5 in your name is actually a 5 and not an “S”

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by CB30 on Aug 3, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

ah ha! its working!

"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."

by KINGofCRA5H on Aug 3, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

There will be some runs scored in that series I would guess

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Aug 3, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

ESPN Power Rankings....#10???

http://espn.go.com/mlb/powerrankings

"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."

by KINGofCRA5H on Aug 3, 2009 2:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Not bad for the WORST TEAM IN BASEBALL

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Aug 3, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Beyond the box score approved

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by Speedforthewin on Aug 3, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

6-1 week? maybe that means we are the team of the week? NAHHHHHHH

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by Speedforthewin on Aug 3, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably should be higher because of the week we had.

i like how the Phillies lose 3 of their last 4 but do not move anywhere in the rankings.

by scout6 on Aug 3, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

because the giants were lucky. you have to be lucky to win a series against the phillies, that’s a fact.

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by Speedforthewin on Aug 3, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually if you read the news stories, the Giants did not win at all, the Phillies lost to the ballpark.

by scout6 on Aug 3, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

yep, in the phillies rules, big walls are not allowed and fences in left and right field must not exceed 400 ft

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by Speedforthewin on Aug 3, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, Matt Holliday is hot right now.

by furikawari on Aug 3, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nooooooo....

Now the videos on the Team page start automatically too. Damn you ESPN! Damn you!

by DrJ Funk Master Deluxe 3000 on Aug 3, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

:)
Chad Billingsley (11-6) has won only two of his past nine outings since June 15.

by Natto on Aug 3, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh Babs

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I liked this series when it was in May and sitting in the Houston air wouldn’t make you sweat your ass off. I’m not driving down to Houston (from Dallas) in this heat. Screw you MLB Schedule Makers!

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"Nothing important ever happened without me."

by ResDog on Aug 3, 2009 2:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Maybe they’ll close the roof and turn on the AC if you ask really nicely.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Aug 3, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m sure the SF people (me included although I don’t live there now) are going to feel much better about the Dallas heat

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 3, 2009 2:22 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

me too

from austin and almost went to this series

by atxgiantsfan on Aug 3, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

sigh

http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/94117

highs of 60
lows of 52

best place on earth

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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

that’s my zip code…weird

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Aug 3, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t look in my windows!

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL I’m there a lot with my lady’s dog.
I’ve spent half of my life within a 3 block radius of that park actually.

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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really, what kind of dog? My lady has a pomeranian and I’m there pretty much every day.

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Aug 3, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

does the Pomeranian have papers?

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by ringleader3 on Aug 3, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know, but my girlfriend paid $500 to her friend for the dog, because otherwise her friend wanted to put it on puppyfinder. Not her friend anymore.

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Aug 3, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

er missed lebowski reference, sorrry!

I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
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by ringleader3 on Aug 3, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

she’s a mutt named bella (dog not the lady). say hi if you see us up there. i’m paul.

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

lincepom!!!

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

dude the hat with the hair is too much

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

why are you complaining. I’d take 60 over hot as ball any day

I choose to watch the Giants try to score runs. Not because it is easy, but because it is hard.

by GiantPain on Aug 3, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who is complaining about that?!? This is best weather.

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree, at least we have relief instead of other places in the midwest where the only relief from the heat is inside. I love the fact i can drive to the city or Pacifica when it’s hot here in the east bay

by PiKAgiant on Aug 3, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

One week until I’m out of Vegas and in the cool air of Mays field

by Bryappie on Aug 3, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

HA! Try watching baseball in taiwan right now!

Today: Scattered thunderstorms. Heat index near 110F. High 91F. Winds S at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 60%. Humidity: 84%

by jctGamer on Aug 3, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

ehhhh, i think i will DEFINITELY pass on that, yuck

by PiKAgiant on Aug 3, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I bet Jose is enjoying it though

by jctGamer on Aug 3, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s that bad that even the Japanese bypassed him so he had to settle for Taiwan?

Mo'ped Money, Mo'ped Problems

by Scooter Ellis on Aug 3, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Japan has a rule : only two foreigners per team. Nobody would use it on Jose apparently.

by jctGamer on Aug 3, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I find it funny that Japan is scared that foreigners will take over their league...

when the MLB is stealing all their best Japanese players.

Status: Feels so broke up. Wants to go home. || Still boycotting Johnsonville and Giants souvenirs or ballpark foods for repossessing my K Wall in right field.

by GiantBrass on Aug 3, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reminds me, anyone know how Todd Linden is doing in Japan?

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Aug 3, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fueled by bubblegum

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

http://bis.npb.or.jp/eng/2009/stats/idb1_e.html

It looks like he’s doing pretty well, .304/.360/.554 with 5HRs in 100 PAs

Status: Feels so broke up. Wants to go home. || Still boycotting Johnsonville and Giants souvenirs or ballpark foods for repossessing my K Wall in right field.

by GiantBrass on Aug 3, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

OMG GINTZ BRAS Y U LET HIM GO

by Natto on Aug 3, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

WHY DIDNT WE KEEP MATT PALMER

by jctGamer on Aug 3, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, look his ERA is up to 4.64 and his WHIP is up to 1.41, and he has almost as many walks as strike outs. What a stunning development!

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 3, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where else would he be able to buy all those hot dogs and soda?

by Natto on Aug 3, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait, which Jose is that? Between the sunglasses and he blurriness I can’t quite tell.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 3, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Joe Castle

Mo'ped Money, Mo'ped Problems

by Scooter Ellis on Aug 3, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ahhhhhhhhhh

Duh.

Back in the 90s, the Giants briefly had a reliever named Enrique Burgos. As I recall, before the Giants signed him he was playing in Taiwan. He’s too obscure for me to find much info online, though.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 3, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Around the same time we had Miguel Del Toro, who previously pitched in Mexico (and is no longer with us).

(jcb9: YOUR source for obscure mid-to-90s relief pitcher talk!)

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 3, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Makes perfect sense to me.

by Natto on Aug 3, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

it would.

I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out

by ringleader3 on Aug 3, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

So amazing how we block out bad memories. I know where and when he played but I Completely forgot this guys name and even seeing his picture and someone saying his name is Jose does nothing for me. It’s like a black emptiness in my memory.

Do not meddle in the affairs of GM's, for they are subtle and quick to anger.

by cybermaldonado on Aug 3, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is the kind of series that scares me

Berkman’s out. We don’t face Lee Harvey (too soon?) or Wandy. But we’re on the road, facing undistinguished pitchers. And Eugenio playing that funky OF. Scary.

by Giantsfan4life on Aug 3, 2009 2:15 PM PDT reply actions  

I’ll give you credit for the Oswald reference.

by TheLetter2 on Aug 3, 2009 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

 It’s 95º and the roof is up as of now, per Baggs? Or Schulman? I don’t know, I read it somewhere.

by kdl on Aug 3, 2009 2:16 PM PDT reply actions  

According XM Home Plate...

Tim is NL player of the week!

I used to be disgusted, but now I try to be amused

by PLUChris on Aug 3, 2009 2:34 PM PDT reply actions  

he did strike out 23 ppl in one week. and won 2 games. Without giving up an earned run iirc.

by jctGamer on Aug 3, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

More like NL player of FOREVER.

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Aug 3, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Randy Winn will save the day!

Career at Minute Maid – 429 AVG, 1.180 OPS

by www.westcoastbias.com on Aug 3, 2009 2:37 PM PDT reply actions  

The classy ones always prefer hitting under retractable roofs.

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Aug 3, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

some like it hot.

I’m kinda starting to worry that Winn’s career statistics are irrelevant because he no longer has one.

/child abuse.

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Aug 3, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

SICK BURN

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Aug 3, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Question OT:

Is MLB.TV or radio worth it? since i’m going to school out in ohio in a few weeks and i do have slingbox which is perfect, but is it worth 35 bucks to use MLB.TV when i have slingbox?

by PiKAgiant on Aug 3, 2009 2:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Very worth it.

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Aug 3, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I used Slingbox back in the day and it worked just fine for me.

by deuce deuce on Aug 3, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

i use slingbox for watching here at work, it works fine for me… the MLB.tv premium stuff with the DVR ish capabilities and stuff seems cool tho

I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out

by ringleader3 on Aug 3, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gameday Audio is soooooooooooooooow worth it

if you happen to have an iphone, you can listen to everything (and watch certain games) with MLB AtBat. I loved rolling around on my bike all day yesterday listening to the game. It was awrsome.

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Aug 3, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you live in vegas all the games get blacked out which sucks for me, but in ohio should be golden.

by Bryappie on Aug 3, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

MLB.tv premium still blacks out the Giants locally in the Bay Area, yeah? Even the opposing teams broadcast?

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I use both.

Better quality with MLB.tv and you can watch other games, but its at least a minute delayed. So when I’m on this site I watch on slingbox, otherwise I use MLB.tv

Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!

by Azmanz on Aug 3, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Aug 3, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

it’s so, so easy to hang on to crazy visions of replicating the Rockies’ run to the World Series in 2007, but that really is a once-in-a-generation thing.

Oh , absolutely.
Lightning in a bottle.
Once in a lifetime.

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Aug 3, 2009 3:16 PM PDT reply actions  

letting the daaays go by
water flowing underground

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Aug 3, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow Edinson Volquez Tommy John

There goes his chance to ROY this year and Next……. he was my sleeper pick too….

by jctGamer on Aug 3, 2009 3:26 PM PDT reply actions  

I was gonna email Baggs and suggest that he put in a mock last place vote for Volquez for ROY if he gets to vote on that this year. Guess I still could. Now it would be even more ludicrous.

by kaliber on Aug 3, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haven’t seen it but I’d watch

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man how come I didn't have a dad like this?

Dude made bumblebee out of parts in his motorcycle shop for his 8 yo kid.

by jctGamer on Aug 3, 2009 3:32 PM PDT reply actions  

What will the kid do with it?

by Natto on Aug 3, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

What ALL kids want to do

burn it.

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Aug 3, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

reminds me of 'dog' from half life 2.

"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."

by KINGofCRA5H on Aug 3, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now if only my dad would give me an Alyx…

by Natto on Aug 3, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

kid:

WHY CAN’T HE TURN INTO A CAMARO!!!

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Aug 3, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

/emails jctGamer’s dad about his ungrateful son

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 3, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Verlander is doing good.

Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!

by Azmanz on Aug 3, 2009 4:20 PM PDT reply actions  

With Grienke getting lit up today again, is there any doubt Timmy is the best pitcher in the game?

Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!

by Azmanz on Aug 3, 2009 4:21 PM PDT reply actions  

No one will take Haren seriously until he proves he can pitch good late into the season.

Do not meddle in the affairs of GM's, for they are subtle and quick to anger.

by cybermaldonado on Aug 3, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Except D-Backs fans.

by kaliber on Aug 3, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

HE SHOULD START ALL ASG GAMES!

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Aug 4, 2009 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mlb.com is playing up Verlander again. Only 19 k’s behind Timmy. The comparison is joke imo. I know all the many here think Verlander is better just because he is in the AL.

Do not meddle in the affairs of GM's, for they are subtle and quick to anger.

by cybermaldonado on Aug 3, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Verlander is pretty fucking good in his own right.

by jctGamer on Aug 3, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

In related news, Verlander got lit up for 5 in the first against the O’s. Then again, as an AL team the Orioles offense is comparable to the Dodgers, Phillies or ’27 Yankees in terms of talent and batting prowess.

by snafu on Aug 3, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know all the many here think Verlander is better just because he is in the AL.

I’m trying to decipher this sentence.

by Natto on Aug 3, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently I can only carry a train of thought about 5 words deep into a sentence.

Do not meddle in the affairs of GM's, for they are subtle and quick to anger.

by cybermaldonado on Aug 3, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Last year in Florida I saw Pudge take a Verlander FB to the chest protector and it blasted him backwards off of his feet. The whole crowd when ooooooooooo and the trainers ran out to make sure Pudge wasn’t dead.

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 3, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

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