Thomas Neal, Hot; Scott Barnes, not-so-hot

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the Garko trade is a win!

I told you so!!!

by FluLikeSymptoms on Aug 28, 2009 12:45 PM PDT reply actions

FLULIKESYMPTOMS WAS RIGHT

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Aug 28, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions

Finally! What took so long?

LOL – just kidding FluLike.

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by Fla-Giant on Aug 28, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions

even a broken clock is right twice a day

by FluLikeSymptoms on Aug 28, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions

I don't think so

Interesting read on Nick Hagadone – like Barnes he was also treaded to the Indians in a trade deadline deal. But, there’s a huge error in the stats they’re quoting:

Hagadone’s ERA sits at 2.50 with 53 strikeouts and 19 innings.

If that were true, that means he would be averaging almost 3 Ks per inning, and have recorded all but 4 of his 57 outs (19 innings) as Ks. That’s just not true.

I just did a quick check – they had a typo. It should read “53 strikeouts in 39.2 innings.”

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by Fla-Giant on Aug 28, 2009 1:03 PM PDT reply actions

still pretty good

Please hit better, Randy Winn.

by oldjacket on Aug 28, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions

The Rays are said to be close to dealing Kazmir for a pair of Angels prospects; one of them, LHP Alex Torres who was mentioned on the hot sheet.

Also, I like several of the hitters in High Desert. Sure, the numbers are inflated, but I’ll be watching Peguero, Liddi, Dunigan, et. al. closely as they move up.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 28, 2009 1:30 PM PDT reply actions

The Rays are still in it, so I’m surprised they’re trading Kazmir. He has health issues, but I would love to have him.

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by rxmeister on Aug 28, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions

same

Plus he’s still pretty young. It feels like he’s been around forever.

Torres has strikeout stuff, but he had problems with walks this year in the Cal League before he was moved up to AA. So I don’t know about this trade.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 28, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions

His salary is scary – see below.

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by Fla-Giant on Aug 28, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions

1. I think that those numbers are hugely inflated, but it will be interesting to follow them to see if I’m right.

2. I saw the same Kazmir article, and was initially shocked that the Rangers, BoSox and Tigers would not put in at least a blocking claim – knowing how much the Angels needed a starter. Then I looked at Kazmir’s contract – he’s owed $8M in ’10, $12M in ’11, and it would take $2.5M to buyout his $13.5M contract in ’13 – and I understood what would warn them off a waiver claim.

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by Fla-Giant on Aug 28, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions

Good info.

Wow, I didn’t realize he had that kind of contract for the next 2/3 years. Not exactly cheap; he’d have to say a lot healthier and become more consistent for that to be worthwhile. Although I would love to see Kazmir in a Giants uniform, I’ve always liked him and thought he was going to be better than how it has turned out so far. And yeah, it feels like he’s been pitching for 5 years in the major leagues, at least. I think our attention spans have gotten really really short.

by Mrbasepaul on Aug 28, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions

Think this impacts what they plan to do with Crawford? I think he would be a perfect left fielder for this team and was hoping Tampa would buy him out in the offseason. However with the savings from trading Kazmir that no longer seems pressing.

by helloooonoonan on Aug 28, 2009 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions

Good call

I saw an article in their local paper (St. Pete Times) that stated just that. They will use the $$$ saved by trading away Kazmir to keep their core group together – including Crawford. So we won’t have a shot at him unless he opts for FA at the end of 2010.

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by Fla-Giant on Aug 30, 2009 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions

Though Neal turned 22 two weeks ago and is a bit old for the level

Uh, what?

http://rangers.scottlucas.com/site/2009minorage.htm

He’s actually in the youngest 25% of the Cal League.

by Grant Brisbee on Aug 28, 2009 11:06 PM PDT reply actions

Well i’m sure they are refering to average prospect age rather than average player age so that makes a difference. It’s still pretty misleading though, he’s been 21 all year and that seems pretty much standard for a decent prospect in High A.

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by GiantFan on Aug 28, 2009 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions

And, as they stated in the article Neal lost almost an entire year due to the shoulder injury. So, in baseball terms, he’s only just turned 21.

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by Fla-Giant on Aug 30, 2009 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions

Don’t confuse the six people that actually contributed to that article with people that actually do research

Still nice that they decided to include Turpen as one of the youngest people in AAA though, nevermind that he played one game

by m34josh on Aug 29, 2009 1:53 AM PDT up reply actions

Interesting

Virgil Dahl (Waterloo, Iowa 50702): Thomas Neal..could he crack the l00, and where would you rank him on Friscos’ list at this point? many thanks

Conor Glassey: Neal’s having a great season – but my hunch is that he’ll probably end up on the outside, looking in.

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by tedfordfan on Aug 29, 2009 7:44 AM PDT reply actions

there are going to be a lot of tears around here when the lists come out

by FluLikeSymptoms on Aug 29, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions

Do you think Villalona will keep a spot in the back end of top-100 lists?

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by tedfordfan on Aug 30, 2009 7:49 AM PDT up reply actions

Will he? I don’t know, but he should be unless you’re overly swayed by a “what have you done for me lately” approach.

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by GiantFan on Aug 30, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions

he shouldn't.

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by jponry on Aug 30, 2009 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions

I think he will

I think when a player starts out as a mega prospect he gets a lot of time and benefit of the doubt before losing his prospect status. If a guy starts out as a non-prospect (like Neal) it take a lot for him to get credit as a true prospect. Is that right? I don’t know

by FluLikeSymptoms on Aug 30, 2009 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions