Let’s see.

Zito has a lower ERA, WHIP, and BAA. His FIP is also lower – Zito’s 4.25 to Cooks’ 4.64. Zito has more IP (9 more IP in one more GS), equal CG (I think Zitos was a CG loss IIRC), and more strikeouts. Zito’s K/9 is higher than Cooks, but so is his BB/9; and in the end Zito’s K/BB (1.9) is higher than Cook’s (1.63)

Unsurprisingly, Cooks GB% is much higher than Zitos. Zito’s BABIP is little under 300 and Cook’s a little higher, but Zito’s BAA is still almost .050 better than Cook’s. Zitos tRA is a full run better than Cook’s (5.01 to 6.10). Finally, Fangraphs calculates Zito’s WAR as .02 higher than Cook’s 1.8.

I think you can say that up to this point Zito has been better than Cook. You might be able to say they are “=”. If Cook is the ACE™, then our #3/#4 starter is >= to the Rockies #1, so it would seem the Giants Starting staff is much better than than the Rockies. I don’t think Cook is the ACE™. I think Jimenez is thier best pitcher, but due to seniority the unofficial ace is probably Marquis.

Even if VQ’s ranking of the Rockies pitchers is in the “wrong order”, I think his point still stands – Our two best pitchers are better than their two best, and Zito is actually pretty good. (At first I thought the Sanchez=DeLaRosa, might not work, but their stats seem pretty equal for the season after a quick perusal.)

actually this year I believe Rowand is a lot better than Fowler due to his awful defense, Fowler is the worst defensive center fielder in baseball. In WAR its Rowand with 2.3 and Fowler with .6

Well Helton, Tulo and Hawpe all got the “double greater than” rankings so I think I gave them the respect they deserve. In contrast Sandoval is dominating Stewart by a similar measure.

In regards to Bengie beating out Ianetta I guess it is probably pretty close. Bengie is hitting 40 points higher but has an OBP that’s about 40 points lower. Their slugging is the same and HRs are equal. Ianetta’s numbers geta boost being in COL though. Defensively I don’t know much about Ianetta but I would still say Bengie is above average. Bengie is also asked to be a team leader and has a lot more pressure put on him. After a second look it is probably more of an equal but if I had to lean one way I would pick Bengie.

Yes but Cain knows how to win now which is a much more important STAT than FIP.

Joking aside, after looking at their numbers closer and taking into account that Jimenez pitches at Coors it would definitely not be accurate to say Cain is the much better pitcher. The only STAT that Cain is dominating in is ERA and I realize that is not the best way to judge a pitcher.

But I think the Post is more a response to the MEDIA and talking heads from over the weekend, that declared the Rockies not only better than the Giants (right now since one team won the series and the other lost), but that the Rockies were a much better team top to bottom compared with the Giants (and the Dodgers and the rest of the NL and so on). I only watched a little MLB network, but most of it was “OMG How good are the Rockies? They are gonna catch the uncatchable Dodgers. And dominate in the years to come.” This isn’t so much a post about “LOL Colorado sucks” as one to roughly sketch out how talent levels. To quote the o.p.:

I don’t think this is a perfect way to analyze things but I think it is one way to put into perspective that the talent level between the two teams is remarkably close.

Well my conclusion was that they are more talented and have a better balance between offense and pitching. My argument though is that they are not “top to bottom” a better team. I would certainly not trade rotations with them. Their bullpen is better but not by a huge margin. Clearly they are much better on offense and defense is probably pretty close. “Top to bottom” implies that there is very little if anywhere that we could even compete and I don’t think the comparisons, overall performance or team records display that.

A much better team would beat the other team soundly an on their own strengths. The Giants gifted the Rockies runners and runs, and yet the run differential for the series is 23-27. (Earned only 21-23, smaller without BB-RBIs). The series (and the season really) has been so gut wrenching because the Giants are so close to being a truly good team, and every missed opportunity is like another knife in the gut.

“Good heavens Miss Yakimoto, you’re BEAUTIFUL!”

woohoo! SF Giants win the moral high ground! Not the games though. :(

Lou Seal = Dinger. They’re both shitty.

I’m pretty sure it’s that The Giants are hitting
.270/.327/.414 at home (OPS+ 92)
and
.256/.292/.371 on the road (OPS+ 82)

They are also pitching better at home, ERA of 3.08, WHIP of 1.176, SO/BB of 2.77 vs ERA of 3.92, WHIP of 1.376, SO/BB 1.8 on the road.

I don’t have the break down of starters vs. relievers on the road vs home…

But I suspect it’s all just a random split with the usual home field advantage (most teams play a little better at home)

Jimenez is good, but he’s closer to Cain than Lincecum in talent level. And please don’t compare pitchers over 5 starts, then claim one is better than another.

MOG!!!!!!!!!! He is 5 and 0 nad Cain is 0 and 2 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CAIN SUCKS