SAT ANALOGY QUESTION

by bradleybear on Aug 24, 2009 11:15 PM PDT

Dusty Baker is to Russ Ortiz as Bruce Bochy is to Brandon Medders!

Just a quick fan post, but I wonder how many of you had the same thought that my brother and I shared when Bochy took the ball from Medders. Medders was pitching ok, not great but decently. He had a long delay after Fowler took one off his shin, and several minutes went by before Fowler stood back in there with a 3-2 count, and probably hurting. I think in a different scenario he would have been taken out of the game. Then Medders throws a strike, except the ump called time. Medders comes back with a ball, and now Fowler is on first. (At that point I might have taken Medders out myself) Then Barmes comes up, and Medders seemed to have lost control going 3-0, but Medders refinds his stuff and gets Barmes with 3 nice pitches. So I think he has recovered, he still looks good, let him finish the game. One out, one on, 3 run lead. Then Bochy comes out and takes the ball from him, giving the ball to Miller. Miller has been good this year but has not looked good in his last few outings. Valdez is also in the pen, but also has not looked that sharp lately. Miller comes in a walks 2 guys, including the pitcher who was forced to hit, walking in the second run of the game. Both Rockies runs at that time were beneficiary gift runs of the free pass. Being Miller can't throw a strike he brings in Merkin, reminding me even more of our own FRod of the 2002 series. Anyway, back to the thought my brother and I shared. We looked at each other when Bochy took the ball from Medders and simultaneously said, " this eerily feels like Dusty taking the Ball from Russ Ortiz against the Angels in the World Series." My guess is that most of the McCoven had the same eerie thought. I also wondered if Sanchez or Cain could have been available to close out the game. I would bet in a similar situation Alvin Dark would have gone to Juan Marichal. Just a guess. Maybe this giants team should not make the playoffs. Maybe they should learn from all this and make their push next year. It wasn't just hindsite, we saw it coming as he took the ball from Medders and Medders Adam's apple dropped another 6 inches down his neck.

Poll

Did Bochy make the right move?

I would have left Medders in once he got out Barmes

45 votes

Bochy made the right move, the outcome just doesn't always come out the right way.

18 votes

63 votes | Poll has closed

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Medders was clearly done, according to Flem. I suppose shit happens.

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by El Person on Aug 24, 2009 11:58 PM PDT reply actions

What game was Flem watching?

MIller and Valdez have been done for the last week to ten days.

by bradleybear on Aug 25, 2009 1:30 AM PDT up reply actions

Valdez has been done since Opening Day. I like Flem (although things went south this series whenever he came over to do TV) but how would he possibly know that Medders was done?

embarrassed father of over the hill Edgardo Renteria

by rxmeister on Aug 25, 2009 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions

Well Medders said himself afterwards that he was done (in so many words). I’m guessing Flem didn’t know that at the time though.

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by GiantFan on Aug 25, 2009 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions

It was a reasonable call as Medders was struggling (as he said himself) and we should have been able to win regardless. Also, it’s a no-win situation, if Bochy leaves him in and we lose i’m sure you (or someone else) will write a fanpost about how he shouldn’t have left him in as he was clearly gassed.

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by GiantFan on Aug 25, 2009 12:23 AM PDT reply actions

Miller and Valdez are total chokesters with inherited runners.

I would have stuck with Medders. However, that means that I would have used Miller to start the inning.

by hokysmksbw on Aug 25, 2009 2:20 AM PDT up reply actions

Medders might have been tired, but he just got Barmes out. Naturally you wouldn’t leave him in long enough to lose the game, but certainly after getting the last hitter he should have been left in for at least one more batter.

embarrassed father of over the hill Edgardo Renteria

by rxmeister on Aug 25, 2009 7:25 AM PDT up reply actions

Reasonable decision to make given the circumstances

"It is amazing how much can be accomplished if no one cares who gets the credit." - Coach John Wooden

by Yoyo on Aug 25, 2009 12:35 AM PDT reply actions

Miller has turned into this year’s Yabu. Pitched decently all year and then found a period where he can’t get anyone out. Nine straight batters have now reached base against him.

embarrassed father of over the hill Edgardo Renteria

by rxmeister on Aug 25, 2009 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions

Nah

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 25, 2009 12:44 AM PDT reply actions

More Eerie facts about this loss.

In 1993 the Rockies could not beat the Braves at all. Lost every game. I think that year they played the Braves 13 times. That alone cost the giants the Pennant. That started brewing a dislike for the Braves and their Tomahawk chop, and the Rockes for laying down. Then in 2002 World series, Dusty takes the ball from Russ Ortiz and we all know what happenned in that game. Bochy took the ball from Medders and we all know who finished the game. 97 MPH, flat throwing Merkin Valdez, by the way whom the giants obtained in a trade with the Braves. Wasn’t Russ Ortiz part of that trade? We also got that Australian kid, who was miserable for one year.

by bradleybear on Aug 25, 2009 1:28 AM PDT reply actions

1993 Giants lost 8 straight September 07-15.

They choked early but all people remember now was their winning 11 out of 13 before the LA finale.

by hokysmksbw on Aug 25, 2009 2:30 AM PDT reply actions

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by ResDog on Aug 25, 2009 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions

get another closer next year and make Wilson the 5th starter.

He seems strong enough to be a starter now that he has a slider and a cutter to go
along with his 98+ mph stuff. Valdez last night unfortunately got to throw a non-humidored ball.

by bradleybear on Aug 25, 2009 6:45 AM PDT reply actions