Post-Game Recap: Giants Lose to the Ro...Wait, What?
by Grant on Aug 21, 2009 9:42 PM PDT
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Somewhere in an alternate universe, Aaron Rowand popped up, and Todd Helton roped a double off Jeremy Affeldt. That means we've crossed over.
We've crossed over! We're in the other universe! Licorice will taste good! Ho-Hos will make you thinner! When I drink sixteen manhattans, I won't hit on the mailbox before passing out! And when the Giants jump out to an early lead in Coors Field, they hold the lead.
It's kind of hot in this dimension. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to play video games on this fine Friday night. That's what all the cool kids do in this other universe, I'm sure.
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What'd I miss?
And on the 6th day, God created base-ball, and Barry put one in the water, and it was good.
"I think I just experienced my first Lincegasm."
by bigboneded on Aug 21, 2009 9:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
RISP Fail
And yet it all turned out okay.
by paboperfecto on Aug 21, 2009 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That Edgar Renteria is hitting .433 in his last 8 starts.
2-4 with a Run, a BB, and an SB.
Money down the stretch, Boyyyyy!
8-)
by hokysmksbw on Aug 22, 2009 1:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
An open letter to Grant
Your reports on my demise were premature. I await my apology.
Your friend, Edgar
embarrassed father of over the hill Edgardo Renteria
by rxmeister on Aug 22, 2009 7:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let’s wait until his overall line gets over an 80 OPS+ before we start smugging it up.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Aug 22, 2009 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But 8 starts are worth more than the entire season, jp!
that’s why fred lewis sucks!
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by bondslegend on Aug 22, 2009 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow, bondslegend. You’re like a broken record.
embarrassed father of over the hill Edgardo Renteria
by rxmeister on Aug 22, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, blame the idiots who created the monster
it certainly wasn’t me
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Thanks to roger
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by bondslegend on Aug 22, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any stat you can't win an award for is BS.
What kind of geezer are you to root AGAINST a Giant’s player having a hot streak?
Don’t you want this team to win?
>=P
by hokysmksbw on Aug 22, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why would Bochy keep calling for Bochy & Sabean to be fired?
In the dugout for 2010 — Will Clark.
by hokysmksbw on Aug 22, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bochy could light his own penis on fire at this point and I would not be surprised.
by younghutch on Aug 22, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty sure this is Edgar Renteria’s brother.
And just a wild guess, but does his slugging percentage also happen to be .433?
by kingofthacove on Aug 22, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
there appears to be one (1) double in there
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Aug 22, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never has a 3-run victory
felt more like a 2 run loss.
BUT MY NEGATIVITY IS OVER.
THE GIANTS WON. FUCK YEAH.
I choose to watch the Giants try to score runs. Not because it is easy, but because it is hard.
by GiantPain on Aug 21, 2009 9:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
In the Affeldt-Helton AB, I totally forgot that the Giants were up by 5.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
by groug on Aug 21, 2009 9:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Me too, I could barely watch
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
by TexasRanger on Aug 22, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t love ’em.
It Is Their Ignorance That Keeps Them From Recognizing The Truth
by SFGuy on Aug 21, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wins a win
No the tough one… Cap Mo or Bud
"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits
by FriscoJoe on Aug 21, 2009 9:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Fuckers win , 2-1
It Is Their Ignorance That Keeps Them From Recognizing The Truth
by SFGuy on Aug 21, 2009 9:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What the fuck are you swinging at, Lee?
by giants92388 on Aug 21, 2009 9:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
*Sabes trades Mad Bum for Lee*
Cites willingness to aqing outside the zone.
by NHL84 on Aug 21, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In his defense
that was a nasty slider.
“Filthy nasty!” sez Vin Scully
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 21, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gamecast said Broxton’s home ERA was 0.55. Yikes
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
by norcalnick on Aug 21, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has a real freaky-naughty slider
Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!
by Useful_Idiot on Aug 22, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bums win
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 21, 2009 9:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Lee strikes out.
Game over.
by High_On_Lincecum's_Godliness on Aug 21, 2009 9:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
damn
Hanleys up to .360?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 21, 2009 9:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He’s no Anderson Cooper.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Aug 21, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hes no Juan Uribe
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Also, Tim Lincecum
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 21, 2009 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is Pedro Feliz.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Aug 22, 2009 4:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So we just did the Dodgers a service?
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Aug 21, 2009 9:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
no
we did ourselves a service
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 21, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well said
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Aug 22, 2009 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I go over to the alternate universe every time I eat licorice.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
by tobias on Aug 21, 2009 9:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
In the alternate universe, ballplayer post-game interviews don't all sound like this:
BLAH BLAH YOU KNOW BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH A LITTLE BIT BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH YOU KNOW BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH YOU KNOW BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH ONE GAME AT A TIME BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH A LITTLE BIT BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH YOU KNOW BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH YOU KNOW YOU KNOW BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH A LITTLE BIT BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH GO GET EM TOMORROW BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH YOU KNOW BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH THANKS FER HAVING ME
Anagram of "knowing how to win" = WOW, I KNOW NOTHING
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Aug 21, 2009 9:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And instead of gift certificates, they receive a trip to the alligator pit.
by Natto on Aug 21, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And their meal money is spent things other than booze and hookers.
I swear to God, if i see another 'DOYERS' license plate, I'm gonna scream.
by Classy_Argonaut on Aug 21, 2009 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
CoD 4
FTW!!!
I swear to God, if i see another 'DOYERS' license plate, I'm gonna scream.
by Classy_Argonaut on Aug 21, 2009 9:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yes
golden ak-47 with a red dot, frag 3, stopping power and steady aim with a silenced us ftw
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Also, Tim Lincecum
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 21, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
usp*
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
Adopted Father: Tyler Graham
by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 21, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes yes
I’m more of golden shotgun, with grip, steady aim, and extreme conditioning
I swear to God, if i see another 'DOYERS' license plate, I'm gonna scream.
by Classy_Argonaut on Aug 21, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
im working on the gold shotty
I got the Dragunov and AK
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 21, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
btw
steady aim and extreme con are both green perks
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Also, Tim Lincecum
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 21, 2009 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
my bad
stopping power and steady aim
I swear to God, if i see another 'DOYERS' license plate, I'm gonna scream.
by Classy_Argonaut on Aug 21, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats usually what I use when I shotgun
all my friends use Jammer though
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 21, 2009 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s a good strategy for such a mobile weapon, but no need for it when you position yourself correctly
I swear to God, if i see another 'DOYERS' license plate, I'm gonna scream.
by Classy_Argonaut on Aug 21, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like to be able to shoot further
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 21, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In this alternate universe, Russell Martin still sucks it.
by High_On_Lincecum's_Godliness on Aug 21, 2009 9:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I like games that the Giants win.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
by groug on Aug 21, 2009 9:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
lol
worst home run call of all time
The strongest force is the universe is biding its time in Fresno, brother.
by rightcenterfielder on Aug 21, 2009 9:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
SFGUY WAS RIGHT
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
by groug on Aug 21, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
It Is Their Ignorance That Keeps Them From Recognizing The Truth
by SFGuy on Aug 21, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No.
It wasn’t a save situation when he came in.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 21, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“You get a save for that….. I guess.”
-Bruce Bochy
by High_On_Lincecum's_Godliness on Aug 21, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he should get a loss
just because
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Also, Tim Lincecum
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 21, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The save? Hell he shouldn’t even get a ride back to the hotel!
by Merope on Aug 21, 2009 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea shouldn’t he? 3 run game, he finished it!
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Kevin Frandsen, come back!
by WalrusMan on Aug 21, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
chasm?
It Is Their Ignorance That Keeps Them From Recognizing The Truth
by SFGuy on Aug 21, 2009 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know I’ve been gone a lot lately, but have we been invaded?
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Kevin Frandsen, come back!
by WalrusMan on Aug 21, 2009 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
By a couple people.
It Is Their Ignorance That Keeps Them From Recognizing The Truth
by SFGuy on Aug 21, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Star of the game Jim Tracy
I know he’s done a great job with the Rockies, but pulling Brad Hawpe on a double switch was just ignorant. Then he puts Seth Smith up in that spot and he homers, and he pulls him too. Now they finally get the tying run to the plate in the ninth and he has to use Omar Quintanilla in the fifth hole, who has struck out in 9 of his 14 pinch hitting appearances. He made Bochy look like a double switching genius.
embarrassed father of over the hill Edgardo Renteria
by rxmeister on Aug 22, 2009 7:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I cracked in this game
“heart palpitating” moments indeed.
by paboperfecto on Aug 21, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The SJ Giants game is getting fun. Neal coming up with the bases loaded, 1 out
I swear to God, if i see another 'DOYERS' license plate, I'm gonna scream.
by Classy_Argonaut on Aug 21, 2009 9:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
pff
Neal pops it 150 ft, no one scores
I swear to God, if i see another 'DOYERS' license plate, I'm gonna scream.
by Classy_Argonaut on Aug 21, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
edit
not Neal, Neal was on deck
I swear to God, if i see another 'DOYERS' license plate, I'm gonna scream.
by Classy_Argonaut on Aug 21, 2009 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just giving Kieschnick a chance at the spotlight
by superk1ng on Aug 21, 2009 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
150 ft
is not that far
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Also, Tim Lincecum
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 21, 2009 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Had to say it was a pretty OK day.
by High_On_Lincecum's_Godliness on Aug 21, 2009 9:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Fucked around and shot 4-10 with 7 assists.
by High_On_Lincecum's_Godliness on Aug 21, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
CSNBA fail: Sez LA beating Cubs is good for the Giants. WRONG
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
by norcalnick on Aug 21, 2009 9:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
how so?
They arent that close in the WC are they?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 21, 2009 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The WC was the rationalization, but I agree with you. Cubs are 5 back of the Giants right now.
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
by norcalnick on Aug 21, 2009 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
arent the Dodgers only 4 and a half up?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 21, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that’s what it would have been if they’d lost
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by norcalnick on Aug 21, 2009 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh ok
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Also, Tim Lincecum
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 21, 2009 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know BA with RISP is a touchy subject around here, but I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that Fred Lewis would not get a hit in the sixth inning. If there are not 2 RISP I believe he probably coaxes a walk or hits a double or something.
by I'm_a_Man on Aug 21, 2009 9:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Man, after the last few days you may as well just put a target on your t-shirt.
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
by norcalnick on Aug 21, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just shut the fuck up
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re serious!
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Aug 21, 2009 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seesdifferent in disguise?
by High_On_Lincecum's_Godliness on Aug 21, 2009 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that Rowand wasn’t going to hit a home run with 2 runners on in this game
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
by norcalnick on Aug 21, 2009 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And if you had said that if Scott popped up, nobody would blame you. But don’t nobody say anything bad about Fred Lewis!
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Aug 21, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fred doesn’t start or make millions though
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by norcalnick on Aug 21, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That doesn’t make a difference.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Aug 21, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Expectations don’t matter? You expect more from a guy payed millions and a regular starter than a bench player. I personally don’t spend a ton of time bashing Rowand, but I think he’s more scorn worthy than Fred
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
by norcalnick on Aug 21, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, the expectations in this case should be based on prior/recent performance.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Aug 21, 2009 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
God I'm so fucking sick of this
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I’m sick of you cussing at people whenever they disagree with you but what can I do?
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Aug 21, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup, that's exactly what I'm doing
jesus christ.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please just use .01 ounce of critical thinking before you speak
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We can’t all cuss as well as you.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Aug 21, 2009 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some of us do it better.
But you’ll have to wait for a loss.
by hokysmksbw on Aug 22, 2009 1:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Read below.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Aug 21, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So the expectations for Fred are high because he’s been hitting well lately? Low because he got out in his last pinch hit AB?
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
by norcalnick on Aug 21, 2009 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I’m not saying either player’s expectations should be high. I’m just saying that I don’t think calling one player out and having everybody get into a hissy fit is right when calling another player out brings out all the “I no rite?”s.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Aug 21, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I guess that comes from how people feel that Fred’s perception is unfair, whereas Rowand’s perception is considered more accurate. I happen to agree with that, but I take it you don’t. That’s fair.
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
by norcalnick on Aug 21, 2009 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I’ll agree with that. I just don’t think this comment warranted that kind of response.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Aug 21, 2009 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well in that case, that fucking Eli Whiteside is going to be the death of this team, mark my words. He hasn’t done shit in the last week.
Worthless bastard.
by younghutch on Aug 22, 2009 1:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As they say in football...
If it hits you in the hands (or pocket of your glove), you gotta make the catch.
I know a lot of LFs don’t even get there. But he did. And it hit him in the hands.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 21, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not talking about the drop – he needs to fix that. It’s more the anger over one strikeout today and the whole RISP obsession
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by norcalnick on Aug 21, 2009 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BUT HEEZ NOT CLUTCH AND DUSNT HIT IN THE CLUTCH AND TENSES UP IN THE CLUTCH AND WULD K IN THE CLUTCH
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I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look
I like Fred Lewis. I’m not saying that he’s a mortal lock to fail in the clutch every single time. But he seems to me to be… less good… then. It’s not outlandish to think that pressure situations make some players focus and others press. RISP and close/late stats aren’t completely valueless.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 21, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not completely, no
but as has been beaten to fucking death on this site lately, their worth is so minuscule it can hardly be measured.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Talking about stats make them less significant? How many man-hours have been spent on this site theoretically rearranging deck chairs on the Giants’ Titanic of a roster?
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 21, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What does that even mean?
the worth of “clutch” to whatever extent it exists has been proven to be worth less than 1 win over an entire season.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you diagram your sentence, you appear to be saying that the more clutch stats are discussed on McC, the less they are worth. And as the division and/or wild card are probably going to be decided by a single game, it seems fairly significant to me. But whatever.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 21, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, that's not what he was saying
but as has been beaten to fucking death on this site lately, their worth is so minuscule it can hardly be measured.
To rephrase:
As we have discussed again and again on this site, the value of “clutch” is so miniscule it can hardly be measured.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
by groug on Aug 21, 2009 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can always count on groug
to make my drunken, incoherent ramblings more drunken and less coherent.
wait
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Aug 22, 2009 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, the power of groug-sense.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Aug 22, 2009 4:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL you fail SO hard
if you ACTUALLY read what I said, you’re completely wrong in what you’re saying I’m saying.
FIGURE THAT OUT ENGLISH NURD
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Aug 22, 2009 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude.
Enough.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 22, 2009 12:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What?
you misinterpreted what I said, then tried to say it was the other way around. I’m just having a little fun here.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Aug 22, 2009 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I misread your “drunken incoherent rambling.” I thought it said “but as they’ve been beaten to death…” Sorry. You can see how that’d change the meaning of the sentence.
What I haven’t done is flame or mock you.
I’m not debating any of this from an OMGFredLewisSux! perspective, or even a strategic who-should-BB-play-where-and-when angle. I’m just musing on why Lewis seems like he should be better than he is. It just feels like he’s underachieving.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 22, 2009 12:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well IDK
I’m not sure he was every going to be better than a league-average player, and that’s exactly what he is. I never expected more out of him than he’s given, he’s not a big-time player, but he’s good enough to be playing more than he has been.
And yes, I understand what you thought I said. I was just messing around up there.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Aug 22, 2009 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know it’s been beaten to death, and clutch hitting usually evens itself out, but there ARE players who press and try too hard in RBI situations, and right now Freddie looks like one of those.
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by rxmeister on Aug 22, 2009 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where’s that dead horse graphic when you need it. Tho’ I guess we should be beating the dead horse with a calculator or a screen shot of beyond the box score…
by Merope on Aug 22, 2009 7:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry I refuse to believe this
whatever effect his “pressing” has, I’m not sure it’s really of any significance. Also, I’m sick of this subject, so this shall be my last comment on the matter
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Aug 22, 2009 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
embarrassed father of over the hill Edgardo Renteria
by rxmeister on Aug 22, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Kuip thought he died.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Aug 21, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kuip is usually drunk by that time of game anyway. It led to a great exchange between the two of them, making it totally worth it.
embarrassed father of over the hill Edgardo Renteria
by rxmeister on Aug 22, 2009 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is not an outlandish position to hold.
I suspect Fred presses in crunch time and hampers his own natural abilities. I think that’s why he made it to but dropped that ball on Sunday vs the Mets.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 21, 2009 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh ffs
yes, in the split second that he made it to that ball, he realized what a great play he was making and his head just couldn’t allow him to make the catch.
by scottishgiants on Aug 21, 2009 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s more to an at bat than that split second.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Aug 21, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He had the whole run over to think about it. Why else do you not squeeze a ball that hits the pocket of the glove?
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 21, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
bc he's fred lewis
I don’t think pressure has nothing to do with how players react to situations, but I think it’s pretty ridiculous to hold the position that the heat of the situation prevented fred lewis from holding onto a catch. He’s done it many times before and will do it again.
It’s not a putt at a major where you have all the time in the world, it’s an instant reaction, you don’t have time to think about what the catch actually means.
by scottishgiants on Aug 21, 2009 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the thing that bugs me about f dot
Is that he doesn’t own up to his bonehead plays. He makes excuses. And that is not endearing to fans or teammates. period
Skinny cooks?
I don't trust em.
by LargeFarva on Aug 21, 2009 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok
and that’s a fair point…but irrelevant to the whole “clutch – inability to catch because he was pressing” which i find absurd.
by scottishgiants on Aug 21, 2009 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bingo
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by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So we agree that it was boneheaded to drop the ball? I said I think he presses in the clutch. It’s a theory. I am willing to accept that he simply has bad hands.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 21, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
of course
it was boneheaded to drop the ball. It was an entirely make-able catch. I’m not even arguing that he might press in the clutch (he very well could). I’m just saying it’s ridiculous to think that his pressing in the clutch could possibly have affected that catch.
by scottishgiants on Aug 21, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough.
I think we’re close enough that to go further would be nitpicking. And I’m tired of bondslegends’ endless paragraphs of sarcastic all-caps yelling.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 21, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL U MEEN LIKE THIS
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by bondslegend on Aug 22, 2009 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he has bad eyesight, him and Velez… laser eye surgery in the off season! Some of the miscues they make offensively and defensively… gotta be vision!!
by Merope on Aug 22, 2009 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I totally agree
but I was just saying….
Skinny cooks?
I don't trust em.
by LargeFarva on Aug 21, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please for the love of god tell me you're joking
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by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am, kinda.
I was sitting in the LF stands. It was a tough play, no doubt. Definitely not a error. But It wasn’t the be-all end-all of web gems we’re talking about, either.
And why, to change the topic a bit, did he claim the ground knocked the ball free? That is factually inaccurate.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 21, 2009 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's impossible
No one ever presses. Otherwise there would be a statistice to measure it. Pressing is a figment of old-timey sports people’s imagination.
by I'm_a_Man on Aug 21, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A-ha!
That’s a chasm you’ve dug for me there!
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 21, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes. I mean, in the real world people press all the time. They put uneeded pressure on themselves and stop duing what they were having success at in the first place and end up failing because of it. But to hear some people’s opinions, that just couldn’t possibly happen in baseball.
by I'm_a_Man on Aug 21, 2009 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hi Bruce Jenkins!
being sarcastic, eh Brucie?
by FreshStart on Aug 22, 2009 6:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
Some dudes are about Runs scored, others are about the RBI.
Fred is conditioned to lead off an inning and make things happen with speed. Inserting Fred into such a situation at this time in his career is begging for failure.
by hokysmksbw on Aug 22, 2009 1:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 21, 2009 9:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Cody Ross throws out Adam LaRouche at 2nd from the warning track.
It Is Their Ignorance That Keeps Them From Recognizing The Truth
by SFGuy on Aug 21, 2009 9:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
to end the game.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 21, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rownad is teh hero!
And on the 6th day, God created base-ball, and Barry put one in the water, and it was good.
"I think I just experienced my first Lincegasm."
by bigboneded on Aug 21, 2009 9:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Any word on whether Tulowitzki is going to be back tomorrow or not?
by superk1ng on Aug 21, 2009 9:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hope not
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by SFGuy on Aug 21, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Freddy Sanchez
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
Adopted Father: Tyler Graham
by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 21, 2009 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sanchez and Garko better hit well tomorrow. “Mashing lefties” was one of the Giants selling point on both of the trades.
by superk1ng on Aug 21, 2009 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the post game, the guys said something about altitude, dehydration, vomiting… he should be out of the lineup for awhile… then they starting riffing and proclaimed he wouldn’t be back ’til Tuesday, but sometimes those voices, get carried- away.
by Merope on Aug 22, 2009 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giants are going to need relief help this series – send Velez down to Fresno and bring up Waldis.
by APGiantsFan on Aug 21, 2009 9:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Two things:
#1: I watched at the bar because I needed to surrounded by others to drown my misery with and lo and behold this crummy team one and Scott hit a dinger. A very drunken, cathartic experience for having such a shitty week at work. Thanks giants. pleas score more runs this weekend though.
#2: Licorice is good, even in this universe. If you’re not eating Panda brand licorice, you’re posing hard.
addendum: I came home drunk and am now listening to the Dead Milkmen FTW
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 9:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I buy it at the health food store on Divis, so I don’t know where you live but you’d probably have to go to Rainbow or somewhere, or the “health food” section at Safeway..
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cost Plus World Market
And on the 6th day, God created base-ball, and Barry put one in the water, and it was good.
"I think I just experienced my first Lincegasm."
by bigboneded on Aug 21, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cost Plus has it sometime, just check the date!
Whole Foods too.
Costco had some soft “Australian” style licorice that was really good, though 5 pounds of it was a bit much.
by Merope on Aug 22, 2009 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trader Joe’s
My adopted son Matt Downs . Ranked as the 24th best prospect in the Giants farm system by Baseball America !!
by nvsfg on Aug 22, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
they have the little licorice scottie dogs too.
Above the freezer section.
by Merope on Aug 22, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wrong. Licorice is not good. In any universe.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Kevin Frandsen, come back!
by WalrusMan on Aug 21, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LicoriceRush is not good. In any universe.
Fixed.
Noonan. Nooooonan!
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Aug 21, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Licorice tea is great for laryngitis and sore throats.
by Merope on Aug 22, 2009 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone knows burrow owls live in the ground.
One of the greatest bands of all time.
Almost as great as Rush.
And on the 6th day, God created base-ball, and Barry put one in the water, and it was good.
"I think I just experienced my first Lincegasm."
by bigboneded on Aug 21, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
because I needed to surrounded.
this team one.
geez.
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let’s Go Smoke Some Pot!!!
EVERYBODY SOLO!!!
I swear to God, if i see another 'DOYERS' license plate, I'm gonna scream.
by Classy_Argonaut on Aug 21, 2009 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not Dead Milkmen
That’s Dash Rip Rock
Anagram of "knowing how to win" = WOW, I KNOW NOTHING
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Aug 21, 2009 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The sky in my universe has polka dots
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 21, 2009 10:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Did I miss some stuff in the last two gamethreads?
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
by groug on Aug 21, 2009 10:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Knock knock
Who’s there?
Natto
Natto who?
Natto funny joke!
/crickets
by Alex_Lewis on Aug 21, 2009 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't been in a gamethread for a while :D:
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
by baetown415 on Aug 21, 2009 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me neither. I need to stop being lame.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Aug 22, 2009 4:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A's lose
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 21, 2009 10:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This makes me happy.
It Is Their Ignorance That Keeps Them From Recognizing The Truth
by SFGuy on Aug 21, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A's wearing black.
Looks stupid.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 21, 2009 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So I listened to most of this game on the radio...
what the hell was pablo doing swinging at three straight pitches after Eaton had walked 2 batters to load the bases?
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Aug 21, 2009 10:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
the first one was a strike. I can’t explain the other two.
by superk1ng on Aug 21, 2009 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i love pablo but that was really frustrating to hear.
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Aug 21, 2009 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have ESPNEWS on because MLB Network is covering Red Sox-Yankees
Who is the dude who is wearing number 4 for the Vikings?
It Is Their Ignorance That Keeps Them From Recognizing The Truth
by SFGuy on Aug 21, 2009 10:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Leif Erikson’s deputy.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Aug 21, 2009 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bocock...
Let’s a ball go through his legs, Stockton has runners on the corners with 2 outs in the bottom of the 8th. SJ Giants up by a single run at the moment.
I swear to God, if i see another 'DOYERS' license plate, I'm gonna scream.
by Classy_Argonaut on Aug 21, 2009 10:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
There are more people in Stockton than a typical A’s game.
It Is Their Ignorance That Keeps Them From Recognizing The Truth
by SFGuy on Aug 21, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
With a name like Bocock, I would expect at least two balls between his legs
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by Goofus on Aug 22, 2009 7:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
anyone else think its time to give Velez a day off?
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Aug 21, 2009 10:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah i would have loved to see FLew in there today.
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Aug 21, 2009 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO BECAUSE HE TENSES UP IN THE CLUTCH AND ISNT CLUTCH AND CANT HIT IN THE CLUTCH RIGHT GAIZ IM SO SMART BECUZ IM THINKING DIFRENT THAN YOU AND NOT USING ANY STATS OR "INFORMATION" TO MAKE MY POINT!
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by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
not only that
he can’t even catch in the clutch!!!
by scottishgiants on Aug 21, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the caps really sell this point!… haha
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Aug 21, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I figured Fred might strike out because Fred strikes out a lot. Is it okay to think that?
by Alex_Lewis on Aug 21, 2009 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are mischaracterizing the attitude of the guy you got so pissed off about.
by FreshStart on Aug 22, 2009 6:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m more concerned with his defense than his striking out. Everyone says they want him out there, and then he drops a fly and costs us two runs. But hey, he walks!! I’m not a big Bochy fan, but I’m glad he doesn’t want Ironglove Lewis out there because he’s at least smart enough to see the obvious.
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by rxmeister on Aug 22, 2009 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Velez’s defense is much better.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Aug 22, 2009 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just remembering some of his recent clanks makes me haz a sad.:(
by younghutch on Aug 22, 2009 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
please
tell me velez is done with his little starting role
by scottishgiants on Aug 22, 2009 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
I really hate it when people say things like “Oh, yeah but Fred Lewis walks!” sarcastically, like walking isn’t a valuable skill to have or something. What the hell?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Aug 22, 2009 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Baserunners are teh overrated.
If it is coming down to a choice strictly between Velez and Lewis (and it looks like it might be) then I’m betting on Lewis to be more steady. Plus, when Velez screws up defensively he gets this look on his face like someone just dropped him in Normandy circa. June, 1944…absolutely dazed.
Plus, with no stats to back this up mind you, that the consistent playing time will help Fred’s game.
Groundbreaking stuff, huh?
by younghutch on Aug 22, 2009 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey if we’re going off of HOT STREAKS, then Velez is suddenly hitting .196/.255/.294 in the last 14 days, compared with Fred’s .412/.525/.647.
In general, though, I know it corresponded with Velez getting hot, but the fact that a guy who’s hit .395/.452/.526 in the past 28 days has only gotten 38 AB over that time period on a team that has trouble scoring runs is ridiculous. I’m hoping he gets at least one start IN THE LEADOFF spot this series but for some reason, I’m pretty sure Velez is going to be out there every day.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Aug 22, 2009 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like sands through the hourglass, so are thoughts in Bochy’s brain. How long did he leave Rowand in the leadoff spot after THAT well ran dry?
Bottom line, IMHO, Lewis is a better player than Velez over time. This “riding the streak” managing requires someone with better mental reflexes than Bochy.
by younghutch on Aug 22, 2009 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bingo
Bochy is wayyyy too slow to recognize when a change needs to be made
See Molina, Bengie batting cleanup
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I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Aug 22, 2009 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven’t ever seen a single argument here where someone has said that Velez is better than Lewis. There’s no doubt that Lewis is better than Velez, but NEITHER should be starting, so I’m not going to complain when I don’t see Lewis’ name in the lineup. The outfield should be Bowker, Nate and Rowand. Anything else makes me unhappy, but I’m not going to complain when Bochy plays a guy who should be the number six outfielder over someone who should be the number five outfielder.
As for my sarcastic “Lewis walks” thing, walks ARE good, but that baseball axiom of “a walk is as good as a hit” is bullshit when it applies to a good hitter. I don’t want to see Pablo and Nate swing at bad pitches, but I sure would prefer they get a chance to drive in a run than take four pitches out of the zone.
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by rxmeister on Aug 22, 2009 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Bowker as well. I wasn’t making the “straw man” argument for Lewis v. Velez but was more referring to the managing style that values a player playing “good” over a “good” player.
by younghutch on Aug 22, 2009 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree RE: Bowker
but as long as this team is as stupid as it is….
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Aug 22, 2009 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one said a walk is as good as a hit but I think EVERYONE can agree that a walk is much much better than an out.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Aug 22, 2009 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
I agree, I wish the choice was Bowker v Lewis (and I would go Bowker as well) but at the moment, it’s not. And Lewis is a much much better player than Velez, plain and simple.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Aug 22, 2009 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jp, fred sucks. End of story
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by bondslegend on Aug 22, 2009 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That part where he attempted to avoid Helton’s tag and ran halfway to second base was particularly pathetic.
by Alex_Lewis on Aug 21, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Miller and Flemming were so confused when Velez sprinted to first on a walk.
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Aug 21, 2009 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't really a walk
Pitch hit him on the foot. But he swung at it. But it was a wild pitch, so he ran down to first. Never seen that before.
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by Giantsfan4life on Aug 21, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
did he really swing at it? because Miller/Flemming didn’t relay that part. I was waiting for them to realize that he swung at it but they never did, so I assumed Velez was just insane.
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Aug 21, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was the same pitch that he swung at one pitch earlier too. It should have been a really easy take.
by superk1ng on Aug 21, 2009 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
before he swung, I do believe that Kruk said, ‘If he swings at the next pitch, he’s insane.’
I guess calling someone insane is better than calling them stupid.
by Alex_Lewis on Aug 21, 2009 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
insane denotes lack of grasp on reality
stupid denotes grasp on reality but repeating same behavior
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Velez, that could be an interesting debate.
by Alex_Lewis on Aug 21, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
eh doesn’t make sense either.
i’m INSANE i guess
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they were talking about the pitcher
before he swung, I do believe that Kruk said, ‘If he swings at the next pitch, he’s insane.’
Actually, I think Kuip said “He may come back with that same pitch” and Kruk said “If he doesn’t, he’s insane”
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by Goofus on Aug 22, 2009 7:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, he swung. He totally came around. I mean, a guy can get on base three ways without a hit: HBP, BB, or 3rd strike PB. Velez got all three same PA. Hilarious
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by Giantsfan4life on Aug 21, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
they kept saying he ran to trick the Ump into thinking it was a wild pitch and not a hit batsman so it wouldn’t be a dead ball.
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Aug 21, 2009 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think his baseball acumen is up to that kind of calculation.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 22, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We were super confused about that at the bar too, and no one knew the answer about what was happening or how / why rownad advanced, etc.
When I’m not so tired I need to do a more comprehensive follow-up of this scenario.
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fielder’s choice, error. I think there may be one more way.
by speckops on Aug 22, 2009 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fielder’s choice doesn’t really count as getting on base. Think about it, the situation doesn’t change. You’ve just rearranged the chairs. FCs don’t even count as total bases so I really wouldn’t consider that getting on base.
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by cornball on Aug 22, 2009 4:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am quite aware of that, but if you reach on a fielder’s choice and then come around to score (on a double, or whatever), you get credited with a run scored, no? The runner that you got erased on the FC doesn’t get credited with the run scored. Neither FC nor errors (nor 3rd strike wild pitch/passed balls) add to your OBP I believe, but the end result is the same: a runner reaches base without being credited with a hit.
by speckops on Aug 22, 2009 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not only does he have a funny stance
But you notice? He’s settling in, open stance, and then reaches down with his right hand and kind of plucks at his crotch. Like he’s picking off a piece of lint or something. He’s becoming my favorite player, not because he’s very good, he’s not, but because everything about him is . . .eccentric
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by Giantsfan4life on Aug 21, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats our Baron Pickoff Von Ironglove
co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
Ishikawa, let the boy hit against lefties.
by kennv on Aug 22, 2009 7:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s entertainingly unpredictable.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 22, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if by day off
you mean a free trip back to fresno…yes!
by scottishgiants on Aug 21, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That doesn’t sound like a great vacation spot.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Aug 21, 2009 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Moo.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Aug 21, 2009 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
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by The Gene Hackman on Aug 21, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it’s over. Nice hot streak, worth riding while it was on, but it’s over now. Our OF should be Lewis, Roward, Schierholtz. Really, it should be Bowker, Scott, Nate, but that won’t happen.
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by Giantsfan4life on Aug 21, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BUT FRED LEWIS WOULD K IN THE CLUTCH RITE
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by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have you ever been in a position in your life where you felt like you messed up because you got nervous or put too much pressure on yourself?
by I'm_a_Man on Aug 21, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, when I get to 250k on Typing Maniac, I panic and start hitting ‘x’ at the wrong time.
by Alex_Lewis on Aug 21, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
made me lol literally
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by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OH MY GOD SO DIFFERENT THAN HIS NORMAL AVERAGE RITE CUZ HE SUX IN TEH KLUTCH
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by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why does it have to be a career-long thing? Isn’t it possible he may be putting more undue pressure on himself now than at previous times?
by I'm_a_Man on Aug 21, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, it’s possible. It’s not possible for you to know that by looking at a few at bats, though. Which is why the argument has no traction.
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by lyricalkiller on Aug 21, 2009 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correct. But it seems like some dismiss it as being possible.
by I'm_a_Man on Aug 21, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But there’s no way of knowing that. He doesn’t really look any different in his ABs with RISP than he does in his normal ABs.
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by jponry on Aug 21, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That at-bat tonight didn’t look different?
by I'm_a_Man on Aug 21, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t see the AB tonight.
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by jponry on Aug 21, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Swung and missed at all three pitches and after he struck out and the ball rolled away from the catcher, he didn’t even think about going to first.
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by cheno on Aug 21, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s not good but it’s just one at bat. I haven’t really seen a marked difference in general in his ABs with RISP this season – he strikes out a lot in them but he strikes out a lot all of the time.
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by jponry on Aug 21, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I don’t have a problem with a strikeout. Just the second part.
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by cheno on Aug 21, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that part is particularly bad but it seems to happen to everyone once in awhile.
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by jponry on Aug 21, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fred Lewis would be a really good hitter if he didn’t strike out so much.
Nate Schierholtz could be a really good hitter if he walked more.
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by Goofus on Aug 22, 2009 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
John Bowker could be a really good hitter
if he actually got a chance.
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by bondslegend on Aug 22, 2009 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
like that would ever happen
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by jponry on Aug 22, 2009 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
IKR
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by bondslegend on Aug 22, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s so frustrating. I’m pretty sure that if Bowker was given a fair shot, he could do something like a 110-120 OPS+ at this point but, well, he had 33 bad AB over 3 weeks, he’s Todd Linden.
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by jponry on Aug 22, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably sucks w/ RISP in those 33 Abs too
bum
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by bondslegend on Aug 22, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honest question – given that the best hitters in the world will make out 7 out of 10 times, what difference does it make how those 7 outs are made (excluding extreme situational hitting, i.e. runner at 2nd, 0 outs)? Are strikeouts worse than the ill-timed double play?
by younghutch on Aug 22, 2009 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Results wise, K isn't as bad as a DP, but
Some outs are productive, such as moving a guy over. If you put the ball in play, you at least have a chance of hitting it where they ain’t or making the defense do their job.
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by Goofus on Aug 22, 2009 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Productive outs ARE more productive than strikeouts, but they aren’t necessarily all that productive in general.
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by jponry on Aug 22, 2009 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And
A lot of outs just aren’t going to be productive at all – so why is a strikeout so much worse than, say, a ground ball to shortstop with the runner on second or a fly ball to medium centerfield with a runner on first?
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by jponry on Aug 22, 2009 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well we have gotten a good amount of rallies this year from LOLDefenses.
I’m guessing it’s from the idea that a strikeout is more definite. Those weak groundouts or fly ball outs stand a small chance of making something happen while productive strikeouts are so few and far in between.
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by SeeingStars on Aug 22, 2009 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It probably seems that way, but I think there have been a lot more non-rallies from players just making a lot of outs.
In a perfect world, the question wouldn’t be fly out or strikeout, the possibility of actually, y’know, getting a hit would be on the table. /sob
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by jponry on Aug 22, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
With the exception of a passed-ball strike three, any ball put in play has a batter chance of resulting in a baserunner than a strikeout.
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by Goofus on Aug 22, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
right. putting the ball in play is better than striking out.
We were talking about strikeouts versus other outs.
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by oldjacket on Aug 22, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But the chance isn’t really all that high.
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by jponry on Aug 22, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
More errors/weird/good things can happen on balls in play than strikeouts, so putting a ball in play has some value.
I can’t quantify it, and I suspect it’s not earth shaking, but all things considered, I’d rather have the batter hit the ball. Unless the bases are loaded with less than two out and Zito is the batter…
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 22, 2009 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A K is worse than any out other than a DP, but I still think people overrate how bad it is. Generally If you move the runner over, but still make an out you only increase the probability of scoring by a small fraction over making a non-productive out.
Obviously there are cases where the difference is quite big but overall it’s not that big of a deal.
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by oldjacket on Aug 22, 2009 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To the point where a stat like wOBA doesn’t even consider strikeouts. When they make each stat relative to an out, they just averaged the value of all outs, so K’s probably aren’t significantly worse than other types of outs.
by speckops on Aug 22, 2009 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, but wOBA is specifically designed to be context-independent. If K’s are any less valuable than other outs, it would depend on the in-game situation.
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by oldjacket on Aug 22, 2009 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That thought did occur to me, right after I posted, but I didn’t want to be weird and post-reply to add that thought.
by speckops on Aug 22, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It looked like what often happens — a batter has trouble facing the world’s greatest pitchers. It’s not a testament to his character failings.
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by lyricalkiller on Aug 21, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just disagree. That was an abnormally bad at-bat. And he looked timid.
by I'm_a_Man on Aug 21, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He "looked" timid
on TV! A solid basis!
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by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I base that on the fact that he walked back to the dugout slowly on a wild pitch. He was not competing against the Rockies in that at-bat. He was lost.
by I'm_a_Man on Aug 21, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And that
has nothing to do with the fact that he’s not actually out there playing regularly. It’s because he can’t handle clutch situations. I see.
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by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps you misunderstand me. Why can’t the fact that he’s not playing regularly contribute to him pressing and struggling in these situations?
by I'm_a_Man on Aug 21, 2009 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeez
is there any line of reasoning that will get you off of this point? When you don’t play often, you’re not going to be as effective as if you get to play regularly, regardless of the situation when you enter a given game. It’s possible that he may be pressing a little in those situations, but if anything it’s probably because he’s like “WTF bruce give me some GD playing time already”
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by bondslegend on Aug 22, 2009 12:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, calm down
Is there any line of reasoning that will show you that this particular bunch of “I don’t believe in Fred Lewis” isn’t of “teh DFA KFRED” variety. Part A of the critique is: “Player X looks like he is pressing, and needs to get himself back in the game.” You don’t need a sample size for that sort of statement, you can base it off a single bat, or even a single swing. Likewise, it can be fixed in a single swing.
For some players, its unfair to judge them by their facial expressions. Like Michael Tucker who looked like a frightened rabbit every at bat. Lewis is also probably a bad choice to do this sort of critique since he does strike out pretty frequently on some bad takes/swing in the best of times. But if he looked “lost at the plate” tonight, he looked lost. It’s a judgment call. Subjective. Based on a single N, and not really captured in stats.
Part B of the critique is the “expectations of Giants offense fail.” How can you blame anybody for that? So what if it is targeted at Fred in particular in this case? This is just a fan expressing his frustrations. Would you be so up in arms if he had said this about some other player?
So please lay off and let other commentators watch the game and make comments about it. If you disagree express yourself. But we don’t need 50+ booze induced posts on “FUCK LOOK AT THE STATS”. This goes for the other side of this “debate” as well.
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by kennv on Aug 22, 2009 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I would
whenever anyone mentions any player and “clutch” in the same sentence I get pissed off. Look down for my opinion on it. It’s bullshit and needs to stop, seriously.
Fred has been above the “giants’ offense fail” lately when he’s gotten his chance to play. Until last night, guys like Rowand and Renteria hadn’t, that’s the difference.
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by bondslegend on Aug 22, 2009 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure, and a sample size of one at bat is about as small a sample size as they come.
by speckops on Aug 22, 2009 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
pussy stat nerd
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by bondslegend on Aug 22, 2009 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re talking about 60 ABs this year w/RISP. Everyone is up in arms over Bowker only getting 33 ABs (rightfully so)…how does small sample size not apply to Fred Lewis too??
in 2008, he hit .260/.360/.365, in 2007 he hit .324/.378/.676 (in 34 ABs). What’s the reason that this season he is suddenly “not clutch”? Not sure what his minor league numbers are, but im sure someone is capable of looking those up.
by scottishgiants on Aug 21, 2009 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it also may apply to Bowker.
by I'm_a_Man on Aug 21, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i did say (rightfully so), so i agree.
by scottishgiants on Aug 21, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn’t this apply just as much to the pitchers Fred faces? The problem with this argument is that we assume we know everything about Fred’s mental makeup.
Is it possible that Fred gets nervous and this causes him to get out? Yeah, sure. Is it disingenuous to pretend to know that? Also yes.
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by norcalnick on Aug 21, 2009 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
premature ejac.
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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Time to send Velez back to Fresno so he can rediscover his game.
by APGiantsFan on Aug 21, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
orrr
so someone else can discover game that velez doesn’t have.
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that is one awesome frame
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fuckin’ hipsters, man
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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Canadian bicycle?
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by Giant among Angels on Aug 21, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Show of hands
who here doesn’t ever want the hear the words “fred” “lewis” “RISP” and/or “clutch” ever used in the same sentence again?
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by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 10:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the site should be renamed Fred Lewis Is Not Clutch Chronicles
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by groug on Aug 21, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This
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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mccovey chronicles - fred lewis is sooo not clutch
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by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
McCovey Chronicles: Turning great victories over playoff competitors into depressing Fred Lewis flame wars since 2009
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by norcalnick on Aug 21, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This
I pulled up the thread this morning after reading the game recaps, even though I watched the game at Coors last night. I was not expecting this. There are dead horses, then there are… well, you get the point.
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by FireBrianSabean on Aug 22, 2009 7:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, bondslegend
thanks for being so tolerant of opinions that differ from yours. Even though the brilliance of your arguments have convinced us that we’re wrong, and that it’s just a coincidence that Lewis bats .350 leading off an inning, .190 with RISP, and .140 with RISP and two outs, and every time he drops a fly ball it’s a catch that no other left fielder in the history of baseball would have made, it doesn’t mean we’re not allowed to express our incorrect opinions.
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by rxmeister on Aug 22, 2009 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cherry picking this year’s stats is fun AND intelligent!
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
by rotorueter on Aug 22, 2009 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
let me know which stats you like and I’ll only use them for the rest of my life. Thanks.
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by rxmeister on Aug 22, 2009 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol wow
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by bondslegend on Aug 22, 2009 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn’t critiquing the types of stats, I meant that it isn’t intellectually honest to look at Lewis’ 2009 stats only. His “clutch” numbers are pretty good for his career.
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by rotorueter on Aug 22, 2009 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a Fred Lewis specific comment, but I don’t think it’s intellectually dishonest to look at stats from one year. For instance, suppose I’m talking about someone’s performance in one particular year…
As an example, I’m not interested in how great Renteria was five years ago, I’m interested in what he’s doing now. His career RISP stats aren’t germane at this point in his career as he is (relatively) old and injured at this point.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 22, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is a good point, but I think when you’re talking about a young player who hasn’t really established himself in the league yet, it’s a bit dishonest to hold up his current SSS performance in a specific split as his true talent level, especially when the rest of his minor and major league career shows a much better performance in those situations.
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by jponry on Aug 22, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I kinda like Fred (FWIW, I do buy the range > hands argument for outfielders) and I can see the SSS argument certainly, but I think the concept of true talent level is tricky… in a perfect world it would be static and reliable, but I think it changes over time and can be obscured by the vagaries of chance.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 22, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do think he has more potential than he has demonstrated to this point in the season.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 22, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, true talent level is kind of the wrong word to use as I think most saber-types think of it as a bit of a fallacy but it was just the best phrase I could think of for what I was trying to say. It’s not so much that it’s a true talent level, but that I think, over the long run, Fred’s RISP numbers are more likely to be similar to his overall numbers (as they have been in his career) than they are to be at the .190 (or even .320 for that matter) level.
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by jponry on Aug 22, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think with RISP specifically, it isn’t a good idea to draw any conclusions from one years worth of stats. Any baseball player can look brilliant or terrible in 60 ABs.
I’m in complete agreement that for, say, certain players on the wrong side of 30, the career numbers are less meaningful then the recent past.
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by oldjacket on Aug 22, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it IS fair to use Lewis’ numbers this year as a barometer on whether you want him up there in an important situation with runners on base. It doesn’t help the team that he was good in those situations a couple of years ago. This is the same logic that Bochy uses when he makes the lineup, and nobody likes that. Bengie Molina continues to hit cleanup because in the past he was good in clutch situations. Never mind that he has killed more rallies this year than we care to remember. By the way, Freddie Lewis is no longer a “young player” and really shouldn’t be thought of as one. He is what he is, these are not growing pains.
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by rxmeister on Aug 22, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, no, he’s not a young player age wise, but he still doesn’t have a huge major league track record is what I mean. And we do know what he is – about a .260/.360/.420 hitter.
And I just have to continue to continue to disagree that he has proven himself to be unclutch by virtue of how he has hit in those situations this year – THIS YEAR he has not hit well. But I still don’t think there’s any reason to think that his true talent level in those situations is a .190 average as opposed to something more along the lines of his OVERALL career lines. As someone said the other day, it takes all of something like 7 hits in the positive direction to get him up to a .260 average with RISP. He could go three for his next three with RISP and he’d suddenly raise that BA over 40 points.
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by jponry on Aug 22, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
but he wont
.190 hitters are .190 hitters. they don’t get 3 consecutive hits. ever.
by scottishgiants on Aug 22, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
bingo
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by bondslegend on Aug 22, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh whatever man
I have no problem with differing opinions, which you’d know since you’ve been here awhile. I have a problem with WRONG opinions that go against all logic and reason.
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by bondslegend on Aug 22, 2009 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
By responding here you’re doing just as much to perpetuate the argument as he is.
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by norcalnick on Aug 22, 2009 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you can also respect his opinion and his right to express it, even if you disagree with it. What’s “WRONG” to you is right to him.
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by rxmeister on Aug 22, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When something is factually wrong
it goes beyond “disagreeing” but whatever. If people want to remain willfully ignorant, that’s their business.
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by bondslegend on Aug 22, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We can’t use Fred and Lewis in the same sentence? Are we going all-nickname?
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 21, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's how we roll
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by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not until he makes a game saving catch, walk-off HR, or game winning hit.
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by FriscoJoe on Aug 21, 2009 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/recap?gid=290619126
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by groug on Aug 21, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was so happy after that game
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by norcalnick on Aug 21, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah I remember that
I’m just saying he has to earn the clutch moniker. One game won’t do it. Has to be consistent in clutch situations.
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by FriscoJoe on Aug 21, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
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by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yet the Giants went back ahead thanks to Lewis, who looked overmatched while striking out in his first two at-bats. He hit a shot onto the arcade above the right field wall, and San Francisco’s bullpen didn’t waste this lead.
"I’m thankful I got a chance to get in there," Lewis said. "I haven’t had much success, and I’ve been working behind the scenes to get my swing back. … The first two at-bats, it was like the ball was coming at me 100 mph."
Isn’t he admitting to pressing in the first two at-bats in this game? As I said, I like Freddy Lew, and I want him to blossom. I want him to figure out how to replicate that third at-bat more, and the first two (plus his cringe-inducing D) less.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 21, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even after today, I think he has the second or third best OPS+ on the whole team (probably around 100). The trouble is that for some reason Bochy has decided that he’s to be used only as a pinch hitter or hitting 5-7 in the lineup.
What he SHOULD be doing is hitting leadoff – he gets on base well and though he hasn’t been great stealing bases this season, he is a solid baserunner. But instead he’s continually miscast in this run producer position.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Aug 21, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I wouldn’t mind him being a leadoff if it didn’t make him feel compelled to steal bases. He’s the best option.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Aug 21, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BECUZ HE KULDNT STEEL BASES IN TEH KLUTCH MIRITE
/demz jokez
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by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, and he went 0-1 so I assume it’s 99-100 now.
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by jponry on Aug 21, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
he said he was overmatched. There’s a difference.
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by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How could he be overmatched in one at-bat and not in another one two at-bats later, facing the same pitcher?
by I'm_a_Man on Aug 21, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because he got the chance to adjust?
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by jponry on Aug 21, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
His FIRST TWO ABs he looked over matched
then the 3rd time he faced the pitcher he hit a HR. How the hell is that strange??
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by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
The writer said he looked overmatched. LEWIS said the ball seemed to be coming at him faster than it was. I didn’t want to blockquote the whole article, as jponry had just linked to it. But the overall implication was that he got his head into a better place in time to hit that jack.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 21, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But what’s that have to do with pressure? He said the ball looked fast. That has nothing to do with pressing or pressure. It just means the ball looked fast.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
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by groug on Aug 21, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe we're fated to read it differently.
I see him saying that he’d been in an abysmal slump for quite a while, his swing was all screwed up, and as a result he wasn’t seeing pitches in the first two at-bats well enough to make adjustments. That all sounds like pressing, trying too hard, to me. Then something clicked.
I want to see more click, less slump. Both at the plate and in the field. That’s all.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 21, 2009 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s been hitting really well lately, in limited AB. I don’t know what more you could want.
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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Aug 21, 2009 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has indeed. But I wasn’t the one who flatly stated that he was doomed to fail when he came up w/RISP today. That was I’m_A_Man. I just said that the idea that players’ performances are unaffected by situation seems unlikely. It seems to have touch a nerve here on the site, though, however it was phrased.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 21, 2009 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The ARE affected by the situation
that’s been proven. What’s also been proven is the AMOUNT they’re affected is so small it doesn’t significantly matter.
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by bondslegend on Aug 22, 2009 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it’s the same (in my eyes, as a t-wolves fan) as what people used to say about KG in basketball. Not clutch blah blah blah blah. Meanwhile, the second he has good players around him (cassell and sprewell), he’s clutch and gets these ridiculous demons off his back.
by scottishgiants on Aug 21, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But KG wasn’t clutch. He would get obviously overamped before big games and… not sure how to put this… burn out, maybe? Yes, the better players helped, in no small part because KG finally didn’t feel like he had to do everything himself.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 21, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
KG may not have looked clutch
but, statistically, he was one of the best 4th quarter players in basketball, his entire career.
by scottishgiants on Aug 21, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe I’m just bitter because I had Webber and Peja folding like tents in the playoffs year after year.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 21, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But in all seriousness, that time he K’d and then failed to run to first was totally pathetic. That was just a total lack of hustle and may get him benched (perhaps wrongly) for tomorrow’s game. I don’t see how that can be excused.
by Alex_Lewis on Aug 21, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have to admit though, all of his bad aspects outweight his good aspects (LOL LIKE HE HAS ANY AMIRITE) and he’s pretty much useless.
MORE LIKE K-FRED, AMIRITE?
by jporny on Aug 21, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL U R RITE
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by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, this is going to get confusing.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
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by groug on Aug 21, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s nothing confusing about how much Fred Lewis sucks.
MORE LIKE K-FRED, AMIRITE?
by jporny on Aug 21, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just wait till Grant gives jporny mod powers.
"He is Tim Lincecum...the Most Interesting Pitcher in the World."
by Kitspool on Aug 21, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh no! It’s already happened. THE WORLD WILL END!
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
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by cornball on Aug 22, 2009 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/raises both hands, plus the hands of a dead guy
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
by baetown415 on Aug 21, 2009 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It became apparent that Fred clenches up in the clutch. During Lewis’ at-bat, a slow-mo replay showed the Rockies’ catcher waving a hand in front of his own face, apparently as if the fend off some sort of nasty odor.
It was a Fred Lewis stress-fart. Proof that Lewis can’t handle clutch situations.
Science.
by younghutch on Aug 22, 2009 1:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sounds logical
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by bondslegend on Aug 22, 2009 1:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fred Lewis’s importance to this team<<<<<<<<<Amount of time we spend discussing Fred Lewis
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Aug 22, 2009 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lets debate the amount of “<”. I think, his importance is more like <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Amount of time of time discussing Fred Lewis, but it should be if Bochy played his card right only importance<<<<<time.
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Ishikawa, let the boy hit against lefties.
by kennv on Aug 22, 2009 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right now we discuss him as if he were either killing the team or in the running for MVP.
Fred Lewis is a modest positive contributer to a team making a playoff run, end of story.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Aug 22, 2009 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is all ive ever said
not sure how it got misconstrued any other way. League-average player, which on this team is good enough to play every day.
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by bondslegend on Aug 22, 2009 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel your pain, dude.
The reason that I try to stay out of this, is that if I tried defending Fred Lewis from every silly criticism, I would spend 90% of my time talking about Fred Lewis (who, in the end, is the Steve Kline of left fielders).
Both you and jponry at different times this year have fallen into the troll trap.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Aug 22, 2009 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
These guys aint trolls
they’re regulars on the site. Which is why it’s even more confusing
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by bondslegend on Aug 22, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t really mean to imply that they were. That was a bit of a mis-write.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Aug 22, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trolls are abundant this year, I dont see this thread as qualifying
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by CB30 on Aug 22, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tom Cable = the next Raider player/coach to bring the team down before the season even starts.
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Aug 21, 2009 10:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL raiders
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by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL your profile pic
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by FriscoJoe on Aug 21, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not worried, but I really wish he’d sign already.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Aug 21, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
those Idiots that holdout
don’t realize that they’re only hurting themselves and costing themselves money!
"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits
by FriscoJoe on Aug 21, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s a bad bargaining position though.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Aug 21, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL when he signs and catches TD passes
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by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL Rashaun Woods part 2
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by FriscoJoe on Aug 21, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lol ok
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by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just messin
Im a huge Niners fan, just trying not to get to high on Crabtree until he comes to his senses, signs, and shows he can play at the NFL level.
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by FriscoJoe on Aug 21, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He can and will
in fact I think he can make an immediate impact, even with this holdout. What’s so complicated about “hey Micheal, go run out there and catch this pass, then run everyone over”?
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by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or, as I’m sure he prefers, “Michael.”
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 21, 2009 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meh whatev
when he finally signs, then I’ll worry about spelling it right.
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by bondslegend on Aug 22, 2009 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As a Raider H8ter I usually find these issues amusing, but even I am tired of seeing it. How can real Raider fans tolerate this shit year after year?
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Aug 21, 2009 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They think it’s all a conspiracy by the NFL and media. Kiffin was in on it too.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Aug 21, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So the future Mrs. Kitspool and myself were enjoying a pre-dinner adult soda at Li Po in Chinatown tonight. It was my elaborate excuse for catching the top of the 1st inning, knowing I’d miss most of the rest of the game. (I try to make my life revolve around this team, but sometimes previous enagagements get in the way)
And it’s probably been said on any or all of the Gameday Threads, but that was the best 1st inning I’ve seen from the Giants since Opening Day. Those were uniformly great at-bats, and it made me feel good that this team came to play tonight.
I’ve never felt better about a 3-0 lead after a half inning. I couldn’t care less whether Fred Lewis was unclutch tonight. If yesterday was one of the worst games of the season, tonight’s top of the first was one of the best.
"He is Tim Lincecum...the Most Interesting Pitcher in the World."
by Kitspool on Aug 21, 2009 10:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m deducing that from all the comments. You’d think we lost 10-1.
"He is Tim Lincecum...the Most Interesting Pitcher in the World."
by Kitspool on Aug 21, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WOULD YOU GUYS BE SAYING THIS IF WE WON??!?
by Alex_Lewis on Aug 21, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
pessimistic blog
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by FriscoJoe on Aug 21, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish they’d start having underground fight nights in that basement at the Li Po
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
again, I mean
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vick
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by FriscoJoe on Aug 21, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
life’s a bitch
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s been years since I drank there and I forgot what a great bar it is.
"He is Tim Lincecum...the Most Interesting Pitcher in the World."
by Kitspool on Aug 21, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you saw the best part
not much else except the HR where Scott injured himself rounding the bases.
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by FriscoJoe on Aug 21, 2009 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's probably been mentioned
but we have 61 hits in the last 5 games. seriously???
by scottishgiants on Aug 21, 2009 10:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
lol and like 3 runs to show for it
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by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am not sure if it was mentioned onthe GD Thread, but I am watching the Rockies fed on my DVR and they brought Tyler Matzek in the booth.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Aug 21, 2009 10:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I went out for dinner so I didn’t see the last few innings but I like how the Giants won and the majority of the discussion is STILL about Fred Lewis (who had one AB in a game the Giants won by 3 runs.)
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by jponry on Aug 21, 2009 10:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That’s what happens when somebody makes a comment and everybody else collectively pisses their pants.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Aug 21, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what happens when someone makes a retarded argument based on suspect information
then won’t back off it. But you know, tomato tomahto
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by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We’re using “retarded” now? Do go on. I missed high school.
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by cheno on Aug 21, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent job defending your position!
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by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What was my position?
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by cheno on Aug 21, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OMGKLUTCH
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by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Find where I said that please.
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by cheno on Aug 22, 2009 1:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No it wasn't you saying it, you're right
sorry. I got you confused w/ the other dude. What is annoying is that you act like we’re saying that nobody can say anything bad about Fred. I don’t feel that way at all- my position on him has always been the same: he’s a solid, league-average player, and on this team that means he’s good enough to start every day. His defense is an adventure at times, but his range makes up for his other misgivings. He Ks a lot, but he also hits a lot and gets on base alot and runs the bases really well a lot.
My problem is when people say he’s not “clutch”. That is a load of bullshit and needs to stop, because the whole concept of clutch is flawed and moronic and invented by small-minded people who can’t look deeper than the surface of any given circumstance. It goes against all logic and reason, which leads people to invent arguments like “well that just shows how HUMAN the game is!!”, when that too is a load of bollocks.
The game is human, true. And different situations will bring out different emotions in players, true. But the concept of a player not being able to EVER perform in a certain situation because he tenses up and doesn’t know what to do is so idiotic that it barely merits a response.
These guys are paid extremely well (minimum of, what, 300K/ year?) to play baseball well. Only the best of the best of the best make it to an MLB roster. They have been playing baseball their entire lives, and through that time have dealt with any number of situations on the field. So you’re really going to tell me that a highly trained professional hitter suddenly loses his ability to hit a baseball because there are runners on 2nd and 3rd? Sorry, but that is fucking bullshit.
And yes, I know it wasn’t you saying that, but I didn’t feel like scrolling up and writing it there. I’m just soooo sick of this whole discussion being hashed and re-hashed and re-hashed. It’s not a case of “agree to disagree”, it’s a case of “you (not you specifically, you 2nd person) are wrong, just stop already”.
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by bondslegend on Aug 22, 2009 1:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hear you, so just ignore it. Just because somebody (who seems pretty new) comes here and makes a pretty innocent post about his gut instincts about Lewis’ at bats doesn’t mean you should just cuss and tell him to shut up. My point was that he has a right to say that, just like people have a right to predict (or say they predicted after the fact) Rowand is going to fly out when he comes up with runners on base. I really don’t think this is about the money. It’s about players one way or another gaining favorability or unfavorability (Firefox is telling me I made those words up which I probably did), so saying bad things about the latter makes you a part of the choir while saying bad things about the former mean you’re an idiot.
That’s all I was trying to say.
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by cheno on Aug 22, 2009 2:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have you been here lately?
the reason I blew up is because EVERY FUCKING DAY for like a week and a half it’s been someone new coming in and saying that fred lewis isn’t clutch. And I am very sick of that “argument” that is based on very very limited and suspect information.
The reason we expect Giants’ offense fail from players is because those players suck in general, not because they are’t clutch. When I expect Rowand to fly out instead of hit a HR, it’s because I think he sucks, not because I think he can’t come through in the clutch. If the argument was “Fred isn’t very good, so he’s going to K here”, that wouldn’t piss me off, because I don’t think fred IS that great.
But it isn’t, the argument is “fred isn’t clutch, so he’s going to K here”, and that, to me, is bullshit. I’ll try to be nicer about it next time, or just ignore it completely, but don’t act like there’s some sort of double standard here, there isn’t. People who say that are ignorant and haven’t been paying attention.
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by bondslegend on Aug 22, 2009 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They haven’t been paying attention because this argument of Fred like you said is so damn repetitive, we here about this everyday, oh what will Zito do today?? OH NOOOO, same thing everyday, and people aren’t paying attention to that since it’s everyday that it’s being said, and it gets annoying.
by PiKAgiant on Aug 22, 2009 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh great, now look what you did!!! Every smart ass on this blog is going to be running around for the next month yelling CLUTCH!! CLUTCH!!! …just because nobody here ever does anything just to annoy…
by Merope on Aug 22, 2009 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, we get it
You’re happy that the Giants won. Now could we get on topic, PLEASE?
by Alex_Lewis on Aug 21, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, honestly, the win is ok but how much longer is Fred Lewis’s reign of terror going to be allowed to go on?
MORE LIKE K-FRED, AMIRITE?
by jporny on Aug 21, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HE SUX IN TEH CLUTCH AND TENSES UP AND LOOKS TIMID RITE. ALSO HE IS NOT CLUTCH
and he clubs babies. And gave hitler the reach-around regularly
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by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t know Tulowitzki was into that.
by Alex_Lewis on Aug 21, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
irl lol
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by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sanchez better play tomorrow
by sadison bummedgarner on Aug 21, 2009 10:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty sure Freddy Sanchez doesn’t have an arm anymore.
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by jponry on Aug 21, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he just pitched tonight
he needs rest
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by FriscoJoe on Aug 21, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL HOWRY
According to research by the Elias Sports Bureau, Giants RHP Bob Howry is the first pitcher in major league history to allow three game-ending homers to rookies in his career—and Howry’s allowed all of them this season, to St. Louis’ Colby Rasmus on July 1, Pittsburgh’s Garrett Jones on July 17 and Cincinnati’s Drew Stubbson Thursday.
by deuce deuce on Aug 21, 2009 10:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
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by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re giving me visions of a crucial Howry vs Pujols AB. And it needs to stop.
by Alex_Lewis on Aug 21, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no no
pujols is not a rookie. were good
by sadison bummedgarner on Aug 21, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NOT CLUTCH MIRITE
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by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Howry did his job. Fred Lewis was out of position.
Saving countless runs with my Brian Horwitz
by lyricalkiller on Aug 21, 2009 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a fucking jackass
you’d have thought he would have known to be sitting in the stands to catch the ball, but instead he was ON THE FIELD, showing a clear lack of understanding. Also, he looked timid while watching the ball go over the wall.
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by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, that's kind of fun.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Aug 21, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love baseball. You don’t get stuff lie this in other sports.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Aug 21, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So as long as Bochy keeps him from pitching to rookies, we’re golden.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
by groug on Aug 21, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Woo-hoo another Giant in the history books!!!!!!
by Merope on Aug 22, 2009 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
just wanna say
i fucking love baseball. new baseball fan and all (started following during 06 season), so this is my first season rooting for a real contender. fucking love it.
by scottishgiants on Aug 21, 2009 10:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
itz good, no?
"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits
by FriscoJoe on Aug 21, 2009 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oranges hurt!
"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits
by FriscoJoe on Aug 21, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
jai alai is fun as hell to watch. wish you could gamble on jai alai in california.
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
not quite as good as football (soccer to you yanks)
but it’s definitely up there.
by scottishgiants on Aug 21, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's just like football!
But entertaining!
by Alex_Lewis on Aug 21, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m excited ESPN is now broadcasting EPL and La Liga games. Finally get to watch some good soccer!
Eli Whiteside : Catching no-no's and hitting grand slams
by BleedBlackNOrange on Aug 21, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only if the Yankees and Red Sox are playing amirite?
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Aug 21, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
been broadcasting champions league for years…best soccer you can get
by scottishgiants on Aug 21, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+ fucking 1
I’m a closet soccer fan and the champions league has been so awesome year after year. I love it.
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by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Champions League is TEH SEX! Now if only Bayern could ball up and play some D this year.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Aug 22, 2009 7:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey fella! Some of us are German!
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Aug 22, 2009 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love it, but if Man U and Real Madrid play each other in the final this year, I’ll have no team to root against… :(
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2009: The return of Los Galacticos!
by Useful_Idiot on Aug 22, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it'll be a helluva spectacle though
i’m guessing this set of galacticos is gonna end much like the last though…disappointment
by scottishgiants on Aug 22, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I definitely have high hopes for them. And as good as Barcelona was last season, Ibra scares the crap out of me.
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by Useful_Idiot on Aug 22, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I watched SportsCenter on Wednesday night and they spent a full two minutes in the MIDDLE OF THE SHOW covering Burnley’s historic win over Man United. We are through the looking glass when Burnley FC gets mad props from Bristol.
"He is Tim Lincecum...the Most Interesting Pitcher in the World."
by Kitspool on Aug 21, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
liverpool-villa on monday espn2…that should be a good one.
by scottishgiants on Aug 21, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't wait.
YNWA.
co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
Ishikawa, let the boy hit against lefties.
by kennv on Aug 22, 2009 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What time is the game? I loooove early morning sports (woke up at 7 just to watch Man U… First half was exciting, second half was pleasing)
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by Useful_Idiot on Aug 22, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
1145
its the monday night game in england
by scottishgiants on Aug 22, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Historic for Burnley, less so for ManU
It seems in recent years they have often taken one of only a handful of losses in a year to a recently promotoed or nearly relegated side. Seems Fergie’s men lose some focus against the “small timers.”
co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
Ishikawa, let the boy hit against lefties.
by kennv on Aug 22, 2009 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
kinda like wigan right now. Maybe Man U miss ronaldo more than you would think?
by scottishgiants on Aug 22, 2009 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fox Soccer Channel
FTW
"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits
by FriscoJoe on Aug 21, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go Spurs! Top of the league! I’m sure that will last…
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
by norcalnick on Aug 21, 2009 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tottenham Hotspur won me beer.
And in doing so won my eternal loyalty.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 21, 2009 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
UEFA over MLB?
"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits
by FriscoJoe on Aug 21, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're gonna need more than SPL to surpass the MLB
"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits
by FriscoJoe on Aug 21, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah
my glasgow rangers are all i need.
But MLB is pretty awesome!
by scottishgiants on Aug 21, 2009 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice, I can appreciate that.
"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits
by FriscoJoe on Aug 21, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw a Hearts-Hibernian game a few years ago in Edinburgh. Had a blast
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by Useful_Idiot on Aug 22, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
awesome
2nd best rivalry in scotland. best rivalry in all of sports – rangers-celtic. catch one of those (from ibrox stadium) before you die. you’ll never forget it
by scottishgiants on Aug 22, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
careful.. she is a fickle lover.
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Aug 21, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it’s head first or not at all for me. no sense in being careful
by scottishgiants on Aug 21, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
TWSS.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Aug 21, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't get too attached
It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone. You count on it, rely on it to buffer the passage of time, to keep the memory of sunshine and high skies alive, and then just when the days are all twilight, when you need it most, it stops.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Aug 21, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and don't respond to my fail comment with [ ] instead of < > because i deleted it
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Aug 21, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Aug 21, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ABUSE OF POWER
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I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I have that thing where the winter makes you depressed. Seasonal somthing Disorder? I miss my baseball…
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by Useful_Idiot on Aug 22, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Affective
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 22, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a SAD thing to have
get it? get it?
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by bondslegend on Aug 22, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you've only been following for 3 years
yet you already understand that clutch is stupid. Well done, good sir.
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I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually…i have a very hard time believing that situations don’t have any effect on different players’ at bats. So, is clutch stupid? I don’t think so, personally. I just don’t think it’s fair to say lewis is not clutch because the sample size is too small, and this years numbers aren’t in line with the rest of his career.
by scottishgiants on Aug 22, 2009 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clutch like Arsenal, am I right???
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by Useful_Idiot on Aug 22, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
so i just looked through the box score
and I am still super confused on what happened with that velez ab with rowand on 2nd moving to 3rd.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playbyplay?gameId=290821127
says velez walked? but he definitely check swung for the 3rd strike AND was hit on the foot but then it skipped away and rowand advanced…? box score says rowand advance on a wild pitch… I guess I can understand the Wp thing but what about the “walk”… he swung and was hit… where is the walk?
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 10:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought he’d struck out.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Aug 21, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
me too which is why i’m confused by it saying walk on the box score.
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fred Lewis changed the rules of baseball just to confuse you.
by Alex_Lewis on Aug 21, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And he looked timid while doing it
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by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The ump didn’t appeal to third, so I guessed they ruled he checked his swing and it was ball four.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
by groug on Aug 21, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the ball hit his foot. but the ump did not see it. he checked his swing. so he walked. and the pitch got away from the catcher. and rowand moved to third.
by sadison bummedgarner on Aug 21, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the radio, I thought he’d foul-tipped it off his foot and it was called a K-WP. But you say he didn’t make contact at all?
Umpire fail again. At least this time it didn’t cost Timmy a win.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 21, 2009 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits
by FriscoJoe on Aug 21, 2009 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anything with Emma Watson in it gets my vote.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Aug 21, 2009 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like Brown?
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 21, 2009 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get back, I saw her first
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by Useful_Idiot on Aug 22, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s like a four month or so age difference between me and her. I’VE GOT A SHOT!!!
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Aug 22, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve seen the one with just Kermit and Bale. I like this one better.
by Natto on Aug 21, 2009 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits
by FriscoJoe on Aug 21, 2009 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it’s not that easy being green
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do the Rockies really wanna step?
by Hoist That Rag on Aug 21, 2009 11:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
NFL is now selling Michael Vick jerseys for dogs. You’d think some one down the line would’ve vetoed that decision…
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by Useful_Idiot on Aug 22, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope all the proceeds are going to the ASPCA or something!
by Merope on Aug 22, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe he is using some animal rights organization or another to disinfect his public image, so that’s not out of the realm of possibility.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 22, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d rather them than PETA.
ASPCA>>>>>>>PETA.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 22, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Notes
HEY I WISH THE CUBS WERENT WORTHLESS
Rowand WTF
Im not going to ask questions about the game from the 5th inning on, I dont need to know.
Inglourious Basterds was very very good
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
by CB30 on Aug 21, 2009 11:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Needs more fred lewis sux
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by bondslegend on Aug 22, 2009 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dont tell me
I dont want to know. We won, and I heard the good parts.
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
by CB30 on Aug 22, 2009 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BUT FRED KANT PLAY IN TEH CLUTCH AND IS TIMID. ALSO IS BAD IN BED WITH HIS LADEE FRIEND
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I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Aug 22, 2009 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am so pumped for that movie. I also really need to see District 9.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Aug 22, 2009 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a bingo!
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Aug 22, 2009 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That actor did a phenomenal job.
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
by CB30 on Aug 22, 2009 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he stole the show.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Aug 22, 2009 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brad Pitt was just hilarious
I thought it would be more about him kicking ass and taking names, but the story was quality.
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
by CB30 on Aug 22, 2009 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I was expecting more of a Dirty Dozen homage, but I liked what I got.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Aug 22, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fred lewis sucks, thats wtf
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by bondslegend on Aug 22, 2009 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh really dude? you go out there and field a ball, know what i mean? by the way, crabtree still hasn’t signed, WHAT THE FUCKE
by PiKAgiant on Aug 22, 2009 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could field beter than fred lewis
and i would choke in the clutch like him either. He looks so timid.
Crabtree is probably afraid to sign because he’ll be put in a clutch situation and not know how to handle himself. NOT A GAMER
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by bondslegend on Aug 22, 2009 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
man, let it go already
embarrassed father of over the hill Edgardo Renteria
by rxmeister on Aug 22, 2009 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He isn’t the one who keeps bringing it up.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
by rotorueter on Aug 22, 2009 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he is on this thread
embarrassed father of over the hill Edgardo Renteria
by rxmeister on Aug 22, 2009 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm delievering a point
I hope it’s getting through.
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by bondslegend on Aug 22, 2009 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are we being sarcastic about all of this? or were you being sarcastic?
by PiKAgiant on Aug 22, 2009 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
I’m trying to demonstrate just how stupid that argument is. Apparently it’s not hitting the mark.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Aug 22, 2009 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs