Giants/Rockies Series Preview
by Grant Brisbee on Aug 21, 2009 11:13 AM PDT
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PrintClick this link. Do it. Don't mouse over like a weenie, find out where the link sends you, and then avoid it. Click the link, and let the horror wash over you. Wayne Franklin. Cody Ransom. Dustin Hermanson's sideburns. Unfortunate man-buzzard, Steve Finley. That was the last time a series was this important.
What? I'm just trying to be environmentally conscious when I recycle my series previews. It's also worth pointing out over and over again that it's been a long, long time since the Giants have been contenders -- serious contenders, not lawyerball contenders -- so every series against a direct competitor is the MOST IMPORTANT SERIES SINCE AUGHT-FOUR by default.
And the team is surely at a crossroads with this one. If the Rockies were to sweep, the Giants would be six games back of a playoff spot, which is enough to write off the season, but not quite, so we'd twist in the wind for a while, miserable and grumpy, not expecting a late-season miracle, but knowing that it wouldn't be mathematically impossible, watching every game with a morose and sullen dejection, knowing that if the team had a handful of even average hitters there would have been a chance to have a tremendously special playoff run with two of the best homegrown starting pitchers in franchise history, getting angrier and angrier throughout the offseason until our rage and disgust spills over into some sort of violent outburst at an orphanage that puts us at the mercy of a judge who happens to be a Dodgers fan.
So I propose that the Giants should avoid getting swept.
The biggest obstacle to a positive outcome in this series: Coors Field. It's just a mix of mortar, stone, metal, and evil, right? And, heck, there's at least one instance of a Giants team needing to win in Coors Field, and doing just that. So what's the big deal about Coors Field?
Because the 12,034 games that weren't the Brian Johnson game of September 24, 1997 ended in tears. The Giants must feel like a cow sniffing around an abattoir when the team bus pulls up to Coors Field. Awful, awful place. Even worse, the Rockies have figured out a way for teams to play baseball in Coors, not some miserable amalgamation of arena football and that crappy LJN game on the first Nintendo. How did the laws of physics change so conveniently at Coors Field? Let's ask Charlie Monfort, CEO of the Rockies!
mumble mumble humidor or something mumble mumble
There you have it. Clear as a pane of glass. Actually, I'm all for the humidor. If I were the commissioner, my investigation would have been something like this:
Me: Okay, so what's going on here? Why aren't there as many runs being scored in Coors Field. Ritual sacrifice? Some sort of misapplied defense technology? Let's hear it.Rockies representative: Oh, my, no. We've just figured out how to make the baseballs more like normal ba...
Me: Good. Glad to hear it. Carry on.
Rockies representative: Uh, wait. Don't you want to know the physics behin...
Me: Thank you for your time. I approve of your method to reduce runs in what was formerly a stain on baseball's proud history.
Rockies representative: Well, it's just a simple matter of humidity. See, if...
Me: If you need a discount on bulk chickens for your ritual sacrifice, I know a guy who knows a guy. My work here is done.
The reduced scoring is still creepy. And, heck, it's not as if it's led the Giants to a bunch of wins. But it's nice to have 30 teams play a watchable variety of baseball. It was a drag when there were only 29, and the lone holdout was a team that the Giants had to face several hundred times each season. I still dread series in Colorado. Oh, my, how I dread series in Colorado.
Hitter to watch:
Every single hitter on the Giants. Score some freaking runs, you derelicts.
Pitcher(s) to watch:
Aaron Cook, Jorge De La Rosa, Ubaldo Jimenez, and Jason Marquis are all exactly the kind of pitchers who have given the Giants trouble this season: the kind who pitch overhand from less than 94 feet away. My guess as to the strategy of Giants hitters for each pitcher:
- Cook - Swing at the first pitch, as that's usually when he throws his knuckler up in the zone. (Note: this guess presumes that the Giants have no idea that Cook throws a sinker, which is how the last few Cook/Giants games have played out.)
- De La Rosa - He can have control issues at times, so he'll probably try to lay every first pitch fastball right down the middle. Swing at that first pitch!
- Jimenez - Swing wildly at the first two pitches to build up his confidence. Then he'll relax and throw a fastball right down the middle. Swing!
- Marquis - He doesn't strike a lot of hitters out, but he's lowered his walk rate this season. So take a few pitches, as he's likely to nibble a bit early, but he'll come into the strike zone at some point. Wait for your pitch. Well, unless you have a really, really good feeling that the first pitch of the at-bat is going to be the fattest pitch ever thrown by a major league pitcher. If that's the case, then swing away!
I, for one, am overflowing with confidence.
Go Giants. This whole season has been a bit of a surprise. We can handle a few more.
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discount chickens
"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"
by The Gene Hackman on Aug 21, 2009 11:15 AM PDT reply actions
The Purple Row preview encouraged sparring with you.
So, um…nice tie.
Funny Dog to Make Life Worthwhile
by frightened inmate #2 on Aug 21, 2009 11:20 AM PDT reply actions
THEM'S FIGHTING WORDS!
"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"
by The Gene Hackman on Aug 21, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
we don’t wear ties around here!
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 21, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Expectations?
…
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
Aim low
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Aug 21, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Giants coaching/fundamental practices
akin to bad parenting, allowing their children to act on every impulse.
Dr. McCoy asks, “Now what do you suggest we do? Spank it?”
I suggest we sit back and watch the Rockies conduct said spankings. I for one welcome our new NL West/Wildcard overlords, and remind them that as a National League team, they will once again crash and burn should they reach the WS.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 21, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
/foams at mouth
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
by KINGofCRA5H on Aug 21, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Ho ho!
That crazy old Rhinoceros! Rockie the Rhinoceros!
Wait a minute? It’s Dinger? Dinger the Dinosaur?
Fuck you guys.
that’s pretty funny
"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"
by The Gene Hackman on Aug 21, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
fuck you Grimace!!!
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 21, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the Giants should fly in Lou Seal to stand behind the backstop and dance and jiggle around. THAT’S what annoys me about that damn dinosaur.
Someone here recently posted a video of Lou Seal doing that at AT&T. (He doesn’t do it as incessantly, to be sure.)
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
I saw a THS special about washed up actors. Turns out this is Barney long lost lover
I R 5
by say hey nation on Aug 21, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I would like to see Tim “accidently” throw a fast ball at that walking satellite dish.
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Aug 21, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Looks like it's been hitting the beer.
THINK OF THE CHILDREN and extinct it.
NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Aug 21, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I hate this stupid MFing dinosaur.
Supporting San Francisco Dugout since 2005 and Manny Burriss since 2006. Bringing you all your California League and New York-Penn League needs since 2009.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 21, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Dr. Mayor approves mascectomy
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 21, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
This mascot makes me glad dinosaurs are extinct.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Needs MOAR dirty sanchez under nose horn
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Aug 21, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Prediction
We lose 3 of 4.
Finish 88-74, 8 games out of first, and 4 out of the WC.
I would have given ANYTHING in March for 88 wins, but that was when we were discussing 85 winning the Division.
And on the 6th day, God created base-ball, and Barry put one in the water, and it was good.
"I think I just experienced my first Lincegasm."
88 wins would be an amazing triumph.
I don’t think there are many people who penciled in 88 wins for this team.
Unfortunately, this will be the most ulcer-inducing, hair-losing triumph I’ll have ever lived through as a Giants fan. Usually, it’s just success and failure. Not maddening success that makes my heart nearly fail.
by Every6thDay on Aug 21, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
F*ing realist!
Go back to reality land where you belong!
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
Personally, if the Giants don’t win this series, then I’ll be writing off their playoff chances. Considering how much the Rockies break our hearts when we’re not playing them, we have zero chance of catching them unless we win every remaining series with them.
A split isn’t enough. We have to win the series.
No, really, I have updated my blog this year: http://skaldheim.livejournal.com/tag/baseball
True, but....
the Rockies follow up this series with the Dodgers and they haven’t beaten them in a single game since 1904. So there may be a dead-cat-bounce in our future.
Plotting the ultimate demise of Gore51 (never met him, I dunno he could be swell) so as to adopt Kyle Nicholson.
by Whiteteaandpoptarts on Aug 21, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
We have a saying about that around here.
You’re “counting on the Rockies.”
No, really, I have updated my blog this year: http://skaldheim.livejournal.com/tag/baseball
At AT&T , Aug. 28 - 30
Jr. and I are driving up for the Saturday/Sunday games.
Join us , won’t you?
NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Aug 21, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't agree
We still have 6 games against the Rockies after this and they’re all at AT&T. Win 4 of those 6 and we’ve caught up the 2 games we’re currently behind them.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
NEIN!
And on the 6th day, God created base-ball, and Barry put one in the water, and it was good.
"I think I just experienced my first Lincegasm."
Barmes is a pesk too.
As is Helton. Garrett Atkins Diet will probably start to get hot, too. Fowler is quick as well. Iannetta has a lot of power. Hawpe is great against the NL West. Hmm. The bodies are piling.
by Every6thDay on Aug 21, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
everyone on that team is a pain in the ass
Helton’s hitting well, too, which surprised me.
Supporting San Francisco Dugout since 2005 and Manny Burriss since 2006. Bringing you all your California League and New York-Penn League needs since 2009.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 21, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Their lineup is stacked
Especially with Carlos Gonzales hitting so well. With the exception of Helton, they are all young as well. Color me envious.
by FireBrianSabean on Aug 21, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I was at that Dodger game
About 7 rows behind Magowan and Mrs. Bonds. It was a great day until that 9th inning. A few things I remember:
-Magowan would not watch high leverage situations, at least not from his seat. Any time it would get to be interesting, he’d walk up the aisle only to return after the Giants escaped. Didn’t see him again once the 9th started.
-Mrs. Bonds was pretty hot in person.
-I was wearing my full Giants gear and having a great time until the 9th. However, unlike some weak Giants fans, I stayed the entire game. The ones who left early were getting ragged mercilessly. I think because I saw it through they weren’t that hard on me.
-Steve Finley is the devil.
-I really didn’t like how Felipe handled that 9th inning. Looking back, I still don’t.
by AngelWillSaveUs on Aug 21, 2009 11:28 AM PDT reply actions
I usually don’t spend much time agonizing over managerial decisions, but Felipe’s bullpen usage routinely killed me.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
“Oh, look, it’s the 2003 Florida Marlins, whose only left-handed batter in the starting lineup is Juan Pierre. I’d better load up on left-handed specialists and keep a thin bench!”
by Grant Brisbee on Aug 21, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
/uses every member of the bullpen over a 3 inning stretch to win the rubber game against the Pirates in June
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
I was at another game in LA, right near the Giants bullpen. Can’t remember the situation but Felipe got Worrell up in the pen, then sat him down, then up again, then down again. I just remember Worrell cursing a lot.
by AngelWillSaveUs on Aug 21, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
/warms up setup guy in 3rd inning
/falls asleep
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
Remember a few years ago when LaRussa did that to Steve Kline, and Kline flipped LaRussa off all the way from the bullpen? Funny stuff
Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!
by Useful_Idiot on Aug 21, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
FUCK YEAH STEVE KLINE!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
As a person, you mean?
Yes.
As a pitcher… he was a very funny person.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 21, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
A very sweet young man
Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!
by Useful_Idiot on Aug 21, 2009 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I was watching from home. Some douche who didn’t care about baseball was also watching, giving me a hard time. I finally exploded and told him that if the Giants lost and he said a single word there after, he would be cast from my house, never to be seen from again. They did; he did; I did. So, there was a silver lining, I guess.
ah good ole dustin hermanson plaza
"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"
by The Gene Hackman on Aug 21, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I was there, too, a few rows back of the third base line.
I just remember a swing and screams. I never saw the ball. I was stunned twofold: (1) what the f just happened, I didn’t see it and (2) holy hell, that just happened?
Also, that was the first baseball game my then-gf had ever seen before. Suffice it to say, that was the last one I ever took her to.
Hermanson was squeezed!
by Every6thDay on Aug 21, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I bought 2 tickets for the final game at Dodger Stadium on ebay in the 7th inning. I was going to drive down on Sunday to watch the game.
I ate 250 bucks.
Mush!
Schmidt was starting, too. :(
by AngelWillSaveUs on Aug 21, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
I watched that game at our commons’ TV in my dorms back in my freshman year. I went back to my room immediately after FInley’s big fly (don’t care for the Blue Orgy that is Bums’ fans celebrating) thinking the Giants will probably be back into the playoffs next year and maybe years after that so it’s OK.
Well here we are almost 5 years later, Finley is the devil.
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Aug 21, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
My last game at Dodger Stadium until Manny’s bobblehead GS this year. I’m a jinx.
El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."
I remember that day very well...
It sucked. I was playing in college and playing football at the time and we had a game that night. I watched in horror in the training room with the 9th inning collapse as the bums fans rejoiced. I played shitty and sparingly my game that night, but at least my team won.. It was a depressing night.
Whats even worse is that I went to the Dodgers-Cubs game last night with co-workers and had to witness Russuck J Martins GS… It was very tough to watch.
"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits
It sucks when we have to label series
in the same way characters “Honey, I Shrunk the Kids!” have to survive the plot of the movie.
by Every6thDay on Aug 21, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
OT: Blizzcon '09 is underway
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
rofl. you’re good at that.
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
by KINGofCRA5H on Aug 21, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
/goes for fresh boxers
NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Aug 21, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
i go goo-goo-ga-ga over anything starcraft and diablo. not so much WoW
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
by KINGofCRA5H on Aug 21, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I know of not 1, not 2, but 3 guild mates that hooked up (some sweet dungeon raiding tips and mage anecdotes) during Blizzcon.
FTFY
by Grant Brisbee on Aug 21, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
don’t laugh, but one guy I know almost moved to Australia. When he told her he was buying tickets she dropped the “Oh I thought we are just friends”.
He then met another girl in our guild that criticized him publicly on forums over at Blizzcon, “one thing led to another” and they somehow hooked up. It is all quite amusing.
NERD DRAMA
It’s like normal drama, just with more wizards.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.
Ahh, a suicide bomber's heaven
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Aug 21, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
How many nerd dollars did it take to get the hottie on the left to join your picture?
Also, I love the way your arms are crossed as if to say, “That’s right; I’m the head nerd in charge.”
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
Yeah, notice how his username even comes from an anthropomorphic furry. THE SICK FREAK!
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
Probably 'cause it doesn't really work
I was thinking of Goofy. :(
/not a Disney fan
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
It’s like a McCoven
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Aug 21, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I think we’d be a pretty wild guild in WoW. They would ban the lot of us.
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 21, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
not me
Wir müssen wissen — wir werden wissen!
by seesdifferent on Aug 21, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
lol Dodger fan!
I agree. Apparently, you are constructed entirely of teflon.
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 21, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
FTFY
Apparently, you are constructed entirely ofteflonpoop.
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Aug 21, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s funny that Blizzard is the only game studio with its own convention. Considering the millions of people who play their games though, it’s understandable.
They’re not the only ones. Square-Enix holds small festivals in the US and Japan each year. I believe other publishers do as well. Since Blizzard is bigger than any five other MMO publishers put together these days, they get all the attention.
No, really, I have updated my blog this year: http://skaldheim.livejournal.com/tag/baseball
This is how I feel about this series.
I suppose we should at least attempt to show a little more optimism. It’s not easy when every hitter on the Rockies has, like, 43 homers.
Toolkit
Scissors
Whiskey
Dental Floss
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 21, 2009 11:37 AM PDT reply actions
Shoot, a fella could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff!
by Grant Brisbee on Aug 21, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
What in the wide wide world of sports is going on here?
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
There is no fighting in the War Room!
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 21, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
we must preserve our precious bodily fluids
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
Just pass the whiskey, please.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Aug 21, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
/looks at wallet
Club Soda, please
I R 5
by say hey nation on Aug 21, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Eagle Rare, please
On the rocks. Many thanks. I love bourbon. Know why? Because it doesn’t lie to you and promise a bunch of stuff that maybe it meant in the beginning and maybe it didn’t, but two years later, for whatever reason, it just isn’t going anywhere and then it somehow blames you for everything that has made it unhappy and randomly starts bringing up stuff from a year ago out of nowhere, as if that stuff had been lurking really close to the surface and really toxic except it took no responsibility for dealing with it before it became cancerous. That’s why I love bourbon.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 21, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
I would like this to be green
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Aug 21, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
i have a bottle of eagle rare on my desk at work
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
Just in case there's an episode with the pork bun. Good thinking.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 21, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
havn’t tried it yet, need to give it a shot… (the bourbon, not the porkbun)
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits
by FriscoJoe on Aug 21, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
That's the most amazing thing I've ever seen
Somebody please green The Thrill with booze.
by FireBrianSabean on Aug 21, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
"For relaxing times, make it Santori time..."
"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"
by The Gene Hackman on Aug 21, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Wierd Stats
Kind of odd to see Tomko with 7.1 shutout innings, as that defies EVERYTHING I have ever thought about him.
Also, how RIDICULOUS was Beltre’s year??
Bonds goes 0-1 with more walks than the entire team has had in a week. Just as many runs too for that matter.
I waited on Hermanson once at the Yard House in San Diego. It was odd because the Giants were actually playing on TV in another city while I was talking to him. Sometimes pitchers that start the first game of a series travel to that city the day before to get rested up. I think he tipped me in quarters…
by projectmayhem713 on Aug 21, 2009 11:44 AM PDT reply actions
Tomko could be really good on occasion. There was one game where he retired 21 batters in a row or something.
The best part of the inning
I mean, this was hilarious (besides Wayne Franklin): the defensive replacement, Cody Ransom, committing an error!
Shades of Edwards Guzman playing third base late in a game and being responsible for an error or botched defensive play that lost the game. I say shades of, because, really, Ransom’s error was in a season-defining game.
by Every6thDay on Aug 21, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
This weekend is either going to be amazing, or really horrible. I can’t see any middle ground from where I’m sitting, which is in my office cubicle.
FunFact: The Rockies have 12 more road games and 25 more home games the rest of the season.
"He is Tim Lincecum...the Most Interesting Pitcher in the World."
At home, they’ll get to play:
Giants
Dodgers
Mets
Dbacks
Reds
Padres
Cardinals
Brewers
By comparison, the Giants will play at home:
Dbacks
Rockies
Padres
Dodgers
Rockies
Cubs
Dbacks
Our home schedule isn’t that bad, but I bet the Rockies sweep the Mets and the Reds, while we struggle against the Pads.
We dominate the Pads at home. It’s Petco that is the land of horrors.
Waiting for Giants and Niners to contend once more.
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue!
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
Surely you can’t be serious!
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
I am serious
And stop calling me Shirley.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
Their last series of the season is against the Dodgers in LA. Figuring out our rooting interests for those games will shorten our collective lifespan by decades.
"He is Tim Lincecum...the Most Interesting Pitcher in the World."
If the Giants are still in the race and the Rockies and Dodgers both haven’t clinched playoff spots by then I’ll consider it a major triumph
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
I’m expecting to be rooting for the Rockies and the Marlins in the last weekend, hoping the Dodgers miss the playoffs altogether.
OT: sucks being in my new apartment here at school in Ohio with no internet and no cable… but whatever, went to the game on Wednesday and had a blast, drank my ass off yesterday after the loss, and kept chanting at the bar last night “fuck the cubbies” when they played the dodgers, then i got people to join in. Plus a dodger fan from LA is probably pledging our Fraternity…
And if he could vomit onto or while wearing a Russell Martin jersey… thank you.
by Every6thDay on Aug 21, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Pics please.
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Aug 21, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
What if he pukes into his hat? i’ll make sure he’s wearing his Martin jersey for sure, i’ll also have the camera ready
Then have him put on the hat.
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Aug 21, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
J. Martin jersey, a dress and a live Elk pumped full of windowpane LSD.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
No internet? How are you posting?
I R 5
by say hey nation on Aug 21, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
its obviously magic
why question it?
by projectmayhem713 on Aug 21, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Considering how I actively go out of my way to pretend all those seasons didn’t happen, I rarely think about how much 2002-2004 really, really sucked. Sucked is too strong a word, I suppose. Stitched together with wires of pure torment, maybe?
Looking back, the one thing I learned as a baseball fan/viewer is that winning cures all and blinds you to the faults. The Giants had flawed teams those years, smoothed over by the butter-creamed HGH goodness of BLB. He was the sole reason for optimism. And that’s not a dig. What’s most frustrating these days is that the Giants, traditionally more of an offense-first organization, has swapped hitting, even average hitting, for stellar pitching, but in such an extreme manner, in such an awful disparity, that the bad wholly overshadows the good. The Giants have a fantastic Corps of Pitchers, smoothed over by the brown, corn-churned age awfulness of everybody not named Pablo Sandoval.
by Every6thDay on Aug 21, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I have Dutch apple pie waiting for me in the fridge.
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Aug 21, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
TWSS?
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Aug 21, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
In Zito’s dutch oven?!?
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
If i had dutch apple pie
theres no way in hell i would keep it waiting for me!!!
by projectmayhem713 on Aug 21, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Pfffft... damn Dutch.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 21, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
True Story
Pennsylvania dutch are really German
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by say hey nation on Aug 21, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Predictions
2-2
Garko hits at least 1 dinger
We get walked off on once
Lincecum is dominant in his start
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
I am unusually calm about this series. Oh, I’m sure I will be ranting away in the gamethread later, but I feel like things will be OK no matter the outcome of this series.
This Giants team is already a success in my eyes.
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 21, 2009 11:54 AM PDT reply actions
Huh, just checked and if my math is right, they’d have to go 13-28 the rest of the way to finish with 79 wins. I think we’d all be suicidal.
Waiting for Giants and Niners to contend once more.
That would put us at 87-75 and probably just out of the playoffs.
Waiting for Giants and Niners to contend once more.
40-1!!!
I’ve seen it.
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by Whiteteaandpoptarts on Aug 21, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
fine i'll say it!
41-0!!! IT COULD HAPPEN
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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Now you're just being greedy.
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by Whiteteaandpoptarts on Aug 21, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
BP
puts us at about 86-87 wins and 3rd place in both the division and WC (Rockies, Braves)
Not sure if they are accounting for Garko and Sanchez aquisitions though.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
Serious baseball lies ahead but Rockies are giddy LOL
hitting each other with pillows in the clubhouse, painting their toes, etc.
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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 12:07 PM PDT reply actions
they are positively giddy
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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Hot cocoa, prank calls and Kate Hudson movies!!!
And late-night pube hair curling, to boot!
by Every6thDay on Aug 21, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
ugh
I had an X-rated dream about Todd Helton and Josh Beckett during the 07 playoffs. This was during the LDS, and nobody had any inkling of the Red Sox/Rockies matchup in the WS. Not enough brain bleach in the world for this.
Supporting San Francisco Dugout since 2005 and Manny Burriss since 2006. Bringing you all your California League and New York-Penn League needs since 2009.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 21, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Be sure to let us know if it happens again. We would all like to make a call to our bookies.
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 21, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I also had a dream about them, but it was Rated X for violence, not sex.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 21, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
HOW'D IT GET BURN?
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Aug 21, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
great scene in valley girl
nick cage’s “FUCK YOU, for sure, like totally!!”
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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
(Pictured, left to right: Troy Tulowitzki, Ubaldo Jimenez, Jim Tracy)
by Every6thDay on Aug 21, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Ubaldo Jimenez is Pee Wee Herman’s girlfriend?
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
You don’t wanna get mixed up with a guy like me Dottie! I’m a loner! a rebel!
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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
also
the voice of Tommy on Rugrats and Buttercup on Powerpuff Girls
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Daily
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Also!
The lead singer of the band that played the school dance in Better Off Dead.
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 21, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
ah yes
silver lame dress and extra hair spray.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
whaaa......
Her songs “Shake It Up” and “I’m Hot Tonight” were included in the soundtrack to the film Scarface.
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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
street cred
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Aug 21, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Now every rapper on Cribs is gonna start highlighting his Elizabeth Daily collection
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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
The clubhouse is livelier, and the guys just have more fun now that the looming presence of Jose Mesa is absent from the team.
They burned Jose Mesa’s Barcalounger
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Aug 21, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Because they are better nourished.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 21, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
So I propose that the Giants should avoid getting swept.
Hitter to watch:
Every single hitter on the Giants. Score some freaking runs, you derelicts.
This is why we pay you the big bucks!
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Aug 21, 2009 12:14 PM PDT reply actions
I'm trying to learn AE on the fly
this is pretty damn complicated. I think that video I’m working on might take awhile.
Rockies giddy about touching balls with their hands and bats
Meanwhile, Bengie Molina wants two-year extension.
massive LOL
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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
sure let’s work on getting him not batting 4th first.
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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Veteran backups are scary to have around with Bochy at the helm.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
I’d say there’s no such thing as a “veteran backup.” Veterans are starters. Young kids are dispensable yo-yos, to be bounced back and forth between Fresno and SF, never to get a string of starts.
If Bengie is on the roster, he will be the starter.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Aug 21, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
and want his $6 mil or more for it
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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
O God No
One year would be OK, but Posey needs to be the opening day starter in 2011 at the very latest.
If Molina understands he’s gonna be a backup, that’s fine, but I don’t trust that he will as long as Bochy is the manager. Also, of course, there’s no way to justify paying a backup more than $1M per year, and even now Bengie can surely get more than that. It doesn’t really make sense for either side.
This is the last year of bochy's contract
soo…
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
he’ll be resigned though, no? can’t disrupt the CLUBHOUSE CHEMISTRY.
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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
God I really hope not
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
yeah wishful thinking on my part
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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I will be shocked (but pleasantly so) if both Bochy and Sabean are not brought back. About the best I can realistically hope for is a ball gag for Dunston.
INTERNET SITE LINKS SHAWON DUNSTON TO S&M
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
I’d like to tie him up and force him to watch tapes of Scott Hatteberg on infinite loop.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
"A Clockwork Orange" meets "8mm" meets "For Love of the Game"... but with a heart.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 21, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Man, I chuckled a bit when I wrote the thing about the ball gag, but you guys really took it to another level. Nicely done, sirs.
It's what we do.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 21, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Alternatively
INTERNET SITE LINKS SHAWON DUNSTON TO BULIMIA.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
If the Giants do this, I will track Brian Sabean down, tie him up, and right “I AM A FUCKING MORON JACKASS” on his forehead with permanent marker.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
Seriously, thats about the dumbest thing he could do
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
If I was negotiating with Molina at this point, and he made this demand, I would laugh uncontrollably, then leave the room. That’s just nuts.
I’m so sick of our veterans overrating themselves and having constant hurt feelings. Ugh.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
give ’im a right and a left and a right and a left
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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Well he did say bengie's clock is winding down
so maybe there’s logic in that brain after all
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
he meant his biological clock
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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
And Bengie pouted about that for a few days. Just like he whined when Pablo was catching a consecutive string of Zito starts.
Get some hits tonight and for the rest of the season, Bengie. After that, you can eat youself into oblivion on another roster.
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 21, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Even if they don’t want posey to start right away, I can’t imagine a world where signing a catcher with an 82 OPS+ and diminishing defensive skills to a deal for his 35-36 years would be a good idea
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
It's a world
where our management values “clutch” and “veteran-ness” over OPS+
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
Well,
it’s actually the same world in which a catcher with an 82 OPS+ and diminishing defensive skills hits cleanup for the Giants.
Still the loving, adoptive father of Hector Sanchez. And who doesn't love switch-hitting catchers with power and patience?
SOB
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
If Sanchez walks Carlos Gonzalez on four pitches to start the game tonight, I’m turning it off.
by CrispinGloversBalls on Aug 21, 2009 12:26 PM PDT reply actions
HOMER BAILEY HAS THE WORST NAME FOR A PITCHER!
I R 5
by say hey nation on Aug 21, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Armando Benitez
Wait. Doing that wrong.
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by Whiteteaandpoptarts on Aug 21, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Yahoo Game Preview
anyone notice the yahoos preview?
“San Francisco’s offense is suddenly slumping, scoring two total runs while leaving 18 runners on base in its last two games after totaling 18 runs in the first two games of the winning streak.”
Don’t you have to have offensive talent to slump?
Well we did score like 20 runs in 2 games, if that counts
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
I remember one series when we had a +20 run dif before and and a +40 after
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by say hey nation on Aug 21, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice Avatar
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Aug 21, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
"San Francisco’s offense is Suddenly Susan, a collection of “talent” existing but languishing with no clear purpose."
/fixed
by Every6thDay on Aug 21, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
“talent” defined loosely on both counts
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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Rewrite
“San Francisco’s offense has returned to its putrid natural state after a two game blip that teased its fans like a 14 year boy posing as a 22 year old swimsuit model on Yahoo Chat. This return naturally coincided with a Matt Cain start, one that will probably be cited as a cause of Cain’s kill crazy rampage in the Giants front office upon their return to San Francisco”.
Eliminate that pesky Dominatrix in one easy step. Step 1: Tell her you're a Cubs fan!
RUT ROH someone’s been burned in Yahoo chat before
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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Could open your mind to new experiences though, depends on how you look at it.
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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
My prediction
The Giants will lose the first two games in horrible fashion, thus crushing out hearts. Then they’ll win the last two, giving us new hope. Then they’ll go on a 1-4 run, thus crushing our hopes again. Then they’ll win 6 in a row. Then…
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
Alex, the question is “Who are 2009 SF Giants?”
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by say hey nation on Aug 21, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
“There’s no such thing as a Penis Mightier.”
by Every6thDay on Aug 21, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s a triangle.
Funny Dog to Make Life Worthwhile
by frightened inmate #2 on Aug 21, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
To talk about being Wilson's TV stooge?
Just to go on and talk about how his head feels just fine now is not great radio.
shoulda had Eddie Renteria on instead
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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Aught-four was also the last season
In which the Giants’ team runs per game, OBP and OPS+ were above league average.
because...
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Aug 21, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly
In Moneyball, Beane says, “We can’t replace Giambi. We can only replace him in the aggregate.” So, they got three players to pick up the slack.
Bonds walks and Sabean says, “Aggregate? We’re baseball players, not farmers” as he hastily kicks a nearby tire.
I really like this
Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!
by Useful_Idiot on Aug 21, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Betsy mccaughey.
She was an evil liar in 1994 about health care reform. Nice to see she’s really honed that.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 21, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I was young in 1994, what did she do then?
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by say hey nation on Aug 21, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Same basic thing.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 21, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Meh
I just want an honest answer about how we are going to pay for it.
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 21, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I also want to know exactly what it means for me.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 21, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
me too, I just hate these smears, they make no sense half the time. The one i hear most often is “You don’t want a bureaucrat deciding you health care. Do you?”
My question is, whats the difference between the would bureaucrat and my private insurer?
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by say hey nation on Aug 21, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve had a shit ton of medical care in the past year or so (even though I’m only 20), and I’ve never had a problem with my private insurer denying coverage (nor has any one in my extensive family). People have this weird thing where they think every businessman is evil and would let you die if it could net them a few bucks… It’s hard for me to buy that.
Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!
by Useful_Idiot on Aug 21, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
i don’t think every business man is evil and looking to make dollars—- damn the public health
but the system is clearly broken
and i’m glad you haven’t had to experience that first hand (at least in your first 20 years)
here’s wishing you continued good health
(your going to need it as a giants fan)
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Aug 21, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
It was tough to find coverage because most of the insurance companies were alarmed by my reckless lifestyle as a Giants fan. Apparently it’s pretty irresponsible
Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!
by Useful_Idiot on Aug 21, 2009 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I haven’t had any issues except 1. During my move 2 weeks after graduating college I fell and broke a bone in my arm. At the time I was still on my parents insurance. That insurance was ending the next day, and my next company was going to begin the after that. My New insurer said it was preexisting and my parents coverage wouldn’t cover care after the ER. I had too pay out of pocket
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by say hey nation on Aug 21, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
In addition working in health care now, I find that a lot of insurers use the “its not standard of care”/“its experimental treatment” to get out of paying for more advanced and therefore expensive health care.
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by say hey nation on Aug 21, 2009 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Ideal answer: removing the subsidies on employee-based insurance that are currently distorting the market
Actual answer: taxing the rich
The second one is still better than nothing.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
I was really shocked to see how much the government spends on “private” insurance subsidies.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Honest answer:
1. Cost savings from reducing inefficiencies
2. Tax increases on upper incomes. Yes, I said it: tax increases. In the neighborhood of 2-3% (and the difference between capitalism and socialism is NOT having a 33% marginal tax rate and a 36% marginal tax rate— when we had 90% and 60% marginal tax rates, this country was still highly productive).
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 21, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Now add that to the expiring Bush tax cuts on incomes over 200K…
If you want me to pay for something, that is fine. I’ll pay. But ask me to trust the government to do that efficiently? Well, let’s just say they have a poor track record in that regard. Your 1st bullet point is not a description of cost savings. It is just a wish. Tell me how they plan to do that.
And you know what? I don’t really feel all that “rich”.
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 21, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
We could just do something crazy like leave Iraq or Afghanistan. Or Germany or Japan.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
/shrug. Works for me. Although I would assume that those countries would think differently.
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 21, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
The private insurance industry isn’t exactly known for its efficiency, either, and as pointed out it’s massively subsidized.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
A company with stockholders to answer to will be more efficient than a government that answers to nobody.
But if you want, end subsidies now. Allow insurance companies to operate without regard to state boundries. Increase competition while still providing private industry a financial incentive to innovate.
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 21, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
A company with stockholders to answer to will be more efficient than a government that answers to nobody.
I don’t think that’s always or even mostly true, but this isn’t the time or the place. I will say, though, that they also have incentive to refuse to insure the people who need it most (or price them out of the market), find reasons to deny treatment, etc.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
historical fact
there’s no money in caring for the poor.
"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"
by The Gene Hackman on Aug 21, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
it’s not just the poor. In the current system, the only reason anyone would want to buy coverage for themselves is if they need it. Therefore, it would be unprofitable for the insurance company to charge them an affordable rate.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
it actually depends.
Keep in mind that not all of “efficiency” is bound up in how well an organization marshals it’s resources. There are problems with private insurance (such as adverse selection), that won’t be duplicated with a public system.
Think about firefighting. Yeah, the government isn’t going to do it in the most efficient way imaginable, but the mere fact that there’s no reason for them to NOT put out fires (as there would be with private firefighting) will make in more efficeint than a private system.
(note: This is obviously not true for all markets, only certain ones. )
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
I dig. Also, with private insurance there is the massive cost of entry, making real competition nearly impossible even without the subsidies and things.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
yeah. I would say that having large barriers to entry on their own don’t make a market better off government-run, there has to be some loopy issues like hard to define property rights and adverse selection as well.
I’m really a very very pro free market guy (GTFO, Department of Agriculture), just not so much in the cases of finance or health care.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Private insurers currently have no incentive to innovate.
They DO, however, have incentive to create exclusionary rules for coverage so that their risk pool is full of healthy people so the company can pocket the premiums and pay out little. If, however, the insurers were forced to take everyone and create HUGE risk pools, then premiums would rise (more people) and payouts would rise (more sick people getting coverage).
They are quite inefficient in how they run their businesses now. Costs money. Other industrialized countries don’t have the antiquated recordkeeping that we have; if it were electronic, it would be better and cheaper. That’s real cost savings.
Currently, because we don’t have universal coverage, private insurers DO charge a little extra to people who are covered so that uncovered people who show up at emergency rooms for stuff that would be better treated (cheaper & healthier) at an early stage by an office visit are paid for. That is a business inefficiency as well as a medical one. And that is also where some of this money would come from— instead of an expensive ER visit as a result of a chronic disease that will have to get treated longterm anyway, that person could have a less expensive office visit sooner.
Private insurers have the incentive to dictate which drugs they’ll cover and which they won’t, often without regard to whether the generics are as effective as the name brand— and it is the government that has made/permitted name-brand drugs to be artificially high. (All drug discoveries in the last 20 years ALL were made at universities, usually operating with public money, which are then licensed to pharm companies who did NOT put in the time or the resources. Let’s look at that— we supported the discovery of the drug, then have to overpay just to get use of something that we financed the invention of?)
I don’t want the government to provide the health care; I want them to force gigantic changes in the financing of it— force greater coverage of more services, more drugs, all people without regard to pre-existing conditions, etc. I am a capitalist and I have an econ degree from Tim Lincecum’s alma mater and I’m an old school U of Chicago-type economist. And I’m saying that it is consistent with those principles to do all that, and it is not inherently efficient to tie medical coverage to employment.
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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 21, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I would say they have an incentive to innovate, but not always in the ways that are most helpful to public health. The classic example being that it’s usually more profitable to development treatments than cures.
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good point
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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 21, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Not Entirely true
Lets say a company develops an AIDS cure. They want to make as much money off it as they would have made with a lifelong treatment, so they charge 200,000$ for the cure.
Do you really think that the government wouldn’t force them to sell it for cheaper in some way?
Companies have no incentive to develop cures because cures cost a ton of money to develop and they know that the government would never let them make that money back.
I choose to watch the Giants try to score runs. Not because it is easy, but because it is hard.
Wait, how does that disagree with what I said?
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it doesn't
but you seem to blame capitalism and the free market for this disincentive to innovate, when, in fact, it is a product of government.
Sorry if I misread you, that’s what I got.
I choose to watch the Giants try to score runs. Not because it is easy, but because it is hard.
Not really true, either: Companies don't tend to discover anything; universities do (with our subsidy) and then the pharm companies make, market, and deliver the drugs.
The pharm company also does variations on the same drug (20mg instead of 50mg… big damn deal). But the heavy lifting of discovery is done at universities & NIH.
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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 21, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
your welcome, I even work in HIV!
I R 5
by say hey nation on Aug 21, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions
No. Here's a Choco-Taco. Run along now.
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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 21, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
HEY!
I read the whole thing. It’s not fair that some riff-raff come along and eat my free choco tacos when I have been paying into the system a long time!
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
(shhhh. you get a box of 6 of them.)
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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 21, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Yay!
/walks away and opens box to find only 4
DOH!
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
SOCIALIST ICE CREAM!!!
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
Can’t really agree that medicine should be subject to free market forces.
Medicine isn’t something that should be approached for profit.
At least, I don’t want my doctors to be “in it” for the money…
"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"
by The Gene Hackman on Aug 21, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
It seems like what we have is the worst of both worlds.
I think we’d be best off with the public option, but just to remove the government subsidies and force health care providers to present costs upfront (allowing the consumer to shop around for non-essentials like endoscopies or mammograms) would be better than the weird hybrid we have.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
Taiwan went through this exact same thing, with horrible results
Let’s face it. People go through med school to get paid later in life.
When government run healthcare became the standard after a massive reform earlier this century, the profit went away. What did the doctors do? They provided only the most basic care available, and massive freud influx happened because it was the only way they are going to get paid.
Government insurance is not the same as Government healthcare.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
Canada vs. Great Britain
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by SoFa King Mike on Aug 21, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Let's not go fanning the flames of international rivalries
I hope cooler heads prevail and they’ll have Nunavut.
/GOING MAD WITH PUNS!
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England as better beer.
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England has some great Indian food.
But actual English food, yeah.
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the last time I was in Germany, I had kangaroo steak and aligator cutlet at an Australian place. The texture of the aligator cutlet was interesting. Very gamy.
Kangaroo, on the other hand, is massively delicious. Apparently they allow hunting of Kangaroos during certain seasons because their population is getting out of control.
I had alligator once, in Florida, I found it very chewy, but tasty.
Other weird (by American standards) meats I’ve had and enjoyed: ostrich, goat, jellyfish, sea urchin (I seem to be the only person who likes it, though).
Also, if people continue with this, it could be the weirdest MCC digression ever.
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I have had alligator. Definitely chewy. None of the others though. I would like to try jellyfish!
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 21, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Jellyfish and sea urchins are delicacies in Chinese food.
So is ox tongue, pork intestines, and various other ridiculousness.
You can get jellyfish at good dim sum restaurant. It’s one of those things that doesn’t have much flavor on its own, but soaks up flavors reeeeeally well. Interesting texture, too.
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We’re going to Koi Garden this weekend and get some shark fin soup and hopefully jellyfish
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by SoFa King Mike on Aug 21, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
yes. they opened one in Dublin as well.
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by SoFa King Mike on Aug 21, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Where do you go in Millbrae? I work in Burlingame.
I usually go to Joy Luck. About as generic as it gets there. But good.
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by SoFa King Mike on Aug 21, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
real shark fin soup?
"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"
by The Gene Hackman on Aug 21, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
especially for the shark
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by The Gene Hackman on Aug 21, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Not a meat, but very tasty!
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I was in a restaurant in FL a couple years ago and we had “Gator Bites”, which was basically Popcorn Gator
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Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Aug 21, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
BTW, I liked it
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Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Aug 21, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Great Avatar!
One of the funniest few minutes of television I’ve ever seen
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
I never saw it until Natto (I think) posted a link to it in a thread, and I could not stop laughing. A quick little screen capture, and I got my avator
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by Giant among Angels on Aug 21, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Is this now a digression from a digression from a digression?
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
I like kangaroo. Very tasty. The alligator can be good if made properly.
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And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
Must be why you can buy an imported Boddingtons but not ’Graham’s Favourite Beans on Toast’.
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
Actually, you can. I’ve seen ’em at Cosentinos.
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And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
Wait-- is this the "Who Would You Rather?" game?
Because I have never played the geography version. Hmm. I would have to go with Britain.
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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 21, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Taiwan’s reform wasn’t a complete failure. I’m not even sure it was a failure. It has the lowest administrative cost in the free world, and a far higher satisfaction rate for both doctors and patients than the U.S.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
pretty much everything I read (granted, i get my information from nownews and taiwan yahoo and CTI news) pegged it a failure, and causing massive debt for the government because of freud.
well, ok, but we're going to have to adjust the chair.
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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 21, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Freud would approve of that request
Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!
by Useful_Idiot on Aug 21, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
There's still time... the system is still jung.
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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 21, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Good one
I love a Lacanic reply.
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this conversation is Rank
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
I Kant do this anymore
Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!
by Useful_Idiot on Aug 21, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Hume do you think you are?
"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"
by The Gene Hackman on Aug 21, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m sure that it wasn’t without problems, and I haven’t really read anything on fraud. But I’ve read more than one paper singling it out for praise on controlling administrative costs.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
it’s common practice for doctors to prescribe medicine to people that don’t really need it, because they can get paid more.
You have a cold? Let me give you 87 different types of medication. I get paid 10 bucks for every prescription! Let me now do that for all my patients.
Some people actually work with their doctors to split the profit. One guy, according to records, saw a chiropractor 300 times a year. Rofl.
well, we do that in the states too.
I’m hoping this reform will push us farther away from paying doctors as piece workers.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
I was going to say, don’t some doctors have agreements with drug companies that incentivize prescribing their drugs?
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OJ: what’s the deal with (only in recent years) marketing prescription drugs on TV?
Something about Big Pharma marketing their drugs directly to me seems irresponsible or fishy or just wrong
"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"
by The Gene Hackman on Aug 21, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
But unbelievably profitable.
The unregulated free market should decide your health choices!!11
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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 21, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
The sheer number of the ads tells you some kind of fleecing is going on.
I wonder what the cost of many drugs would be without all that marketing expense.
"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"
by The Gene Hackman on Aug 21, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh brother...
PEOPLE OTHER THAN MYSELF SHOULD MAKE MY HEALTH CHOICES FOR ME!!1
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 21, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
actually, I think 50% of the population are better off without somebody else making choices for them………
the problem is
you can’t tell who those 50% are.
better to err on the side of letting people do what they want and then dealing with the consequences.
I choose to watch the Giants try to score runs. Not because it is easy, but because it is hard.
Nice snark. Except it’s already the case that individuals don’t get to make their own health-care choices.
Yeah, I touched on that earlier
I would like insurance companies to operate in all 50 states if they want.
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 21, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s what doctors are paid to do. I think advertising for prescription drugs undermines that.
My mother-in-law managed to figure out a way to write her own perscriptions, and it was like handing a four-year old a gun.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
It really isn't
It’s pretty well documented that it’s bad for public health.
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Is that taken orally, or is it a suppository?
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TASTELESS JOKE COMING
Non drowsy = the roofie-free version?
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side effects include wet mouth
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by The Gene Hackman on Aug 21, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
fixed it myself
side effects include
wetmouth
Side effects include kokbreath.
"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"
by The Gene Hackman on Aug 21, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
you make over 200K a year, have enough free time to post here as much as you do, but don’t feel all that rich?
really?
"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"
by The Gene Hackman on Aug 21, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I have lots of co-workers who make 200K / year combining spouse incomes. They can’t even afford to upgrade their 89 Camry.
A 4BR house in Cupertino school district and a 1.3M mortgage does that to you easily.
This was going to be my answer. I think it’s an insanely high amount of money, but I also remember what it was like to live in the Bay Area.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
4BR?
i’ve been called a commie before but anybody who buys a 4BR house in the CUP and expects to have money left over is rich.
"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"
by The Gene Hackman on Aug 21, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Please just take as much as you need and let me know when I am comfortable.
Thanks!
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 21, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
i think we can all agree
there’d be more money for every school (not just the rich districts), if the gov’t had it’s priorities straight.
"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"
by The Gene Hackman on Aug 21, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
California spends nearly half of its total budget on education. It’s not that we don’t commit the money, the money is being mismanaged.
I have no faith, whatsoever, that it will ever be fixed.
It's funny you should mention that
The other night, I was looking through an atlas I have from the late 19th century. In reading their data on California, it mentioned that California spent more money per pupil than any other state in the country.
Nowadays, people often cite STATS that we’re at or near the bottom in that measure. Even people who dispute that, as far as I can tell, put us around 25th or so.
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schools need more money
Just a couple of years ago The Governator had to issue what seemed like an alarming number of pink slips to East Bay School Districts.
I think it’s more than just horrible administration.
"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"
by The Gene Hackman on Aug 21, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
What’s wrong with that system????!!? If those damn pink slips went to some of our freaking “managers” who make 6 figure salaries, you could afford to keep a few more teachers!
I mean seriously, if you think I’m such a slouch that I need 6 supervisors… why the hell did you hire me?
Indeed, why, with all that supervision, would you need to be credentialed.
I have a masters degree and teaching experience, but I’d have to pay close to 2K before I could teach in a public school in CA.
It’s like it’s engineered to fail…
"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"
by The Gene Hackman on Aug 21, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
+ one fake Mayor, and not nearly enough real mayors
You’re absolutely right. I would rather that teachers — the ones actually in front of students — get raises and good working conditions and absolutely decimate the middle management and management ranks. It’s bloated, unnecessary, and adds no value to the system. But unfortunately, there is no courage in the political ranks to force that change.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 21, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
No. California is below the national average in K-12 per-pupil spending. Considering the high cost of living and attendant higher salaries for teachers and other employees, there’s no reason to expect that could possibly be adequate.
I’m not entirely sure how funding works, but I went to high schools in a rich neighborhood that were good not because the state gave us more money, but because parents contributed a bunch of money to pay for the extra stuff.
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
That’s the idea. Because schools are financed locally, districts who don’t have parents who have the money to contribute can lag behind the others.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
It’s a bit of both. A school can chose a funding source, one of which will favor wealthy areas (there’s an opt-out that takes a school out of the standard funding stream). In addition, some schools have higher parent participation, including monetary contributions from parents.
For example, my kids’ elementary school brings in enough through its parent group (and a highly successful annual auction) to fund a full time music teacher, extra science programs and additional art instruction.
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And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
why does medicine need to be so efficient?
health care needs to be effective, as a priority, well before it needs to be efficient.
"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"
by The Gene Hackman on Aug 21, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah. I think my local fire department and library system are extremely effective, and I don’t really care if either is 100% efficient.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
and AS IF somehow the military gets this efficiency check before it gets funded.
"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"
by The Gene Hackman on Aug 21, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
GET THE GOVERNMENT OUT OF MEDICARE AND THE MILITARY
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
/Tim McVeigh reference
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BTW, sorry for all of the political talk, folks.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
BANNED
/xeifrank is offended
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Funny thing is this may be the only place where I’ve seen/heard politics mentioned without a bunch people getting all crazy on each other.
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
It’s true. We only lose civility when talking to the “RBIZ RULE DOODS” crowd.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
I always picture those people as someone in the Giants FO trying to anonymously (sp?) defend themselves.
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Huh?
Also basketball is dead to me.
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You aren't the only one...
During the summer I like to visit 2nd hand shops for classroom supplies (books, puzzles, pencils etc).
The other day one of the stores had a ginormous collection of Warriors stuff: t-shirts, foam fingers, bobble heads, programs, etc… Someone either died, gave-up, or both.
im not going to apologize for their ignorance
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
favorite old meme
LOL DELOREAN IZ OLD
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FACT: this is the only not-crazy non-flamewar discussion of health-care I’ve seen on the ineternet.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Even more notable since people on this board do seem to have differing views on the subject.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
I’m just going to stick this here
Giants get the split!
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Aug 21, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Puns: the lowest form of wit
And yet somehow still amusing.
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+1
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
I can’t wait for the movie.
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by SoFa King Mike on Aug 21, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
If it ever happens :(
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Confess your McCoven Heresies
I’ve never seen Arrested Development. Or Firefly, for that matter.
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I’ve never read the Harry Potter books or seen the movies.
No Pokemons.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
I’ve seen the movies (except the new one), but only because my wife wanted to go. The last movie didn’t make any sense if you hadn’t read the book as far as I can tell.
I actually like fantasy, but Harry Potter is one of those things that, to me, was just so ridiculously overhyped that I was sick of it before I even had a chance to read it.
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Also
Re: Harry Potter – being a long-time reader of fantasy, I’ve found that a lot of people love Harry Potter but are totally snooty towards fantasy in general. And when they explain why they think Harry Potter is so much better than all other fantasy, they give reasons that are stupid. Like that they like how Harry Potter mixes the fantastical with the real world. Uh, dude, like half of all fantasy books ever written do that.
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The linking of the “wizard” world with the real world is exactly where Rowlings screwed the pooch in the series, IMHO.
Yeah, as I was just rereading it, I was noticing that even the wizards who have so-called "healthy’ attitudes about Muggles are really just condescending and patronizing to them in a nice way. I still love the books though.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
RACISTS!
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by SoFa King Mike on Aug 21, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Me too. As long as I read them for what they are, which is semi-fantasy for young adults not to be too closely scrutinized, then they are a blast.
I’ll probably do another re-read in about a year.
She’s gone Ivy League
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by SoFa King Mike on Aug 21, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
No Firefly, no Arrested Development, no Harry Potter, OR Pokemons over here.
I watch very little TV and by the time Pokemons came along… I ummm – let’s just say I wasn’t in the target demographic.
I’m not in the target demo for pokemons, either, but thanks to my 7 year old, I know an awful lot about them.
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And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
I never saw Firefly, either. I saw Serenity (the movie) and did not like it.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
we wanted to bring that information to you, but many Bothans would die in the process.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
I’m a Doctor Who fan.
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by SoFa King Mike on Aug 21, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
How is that heresy!?
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I’m the only one who watches it within a 15 mile radius apparently. I talk about the show and I just get blank stares.
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by SoFa King Mike on Aug 21, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve been a been a Doctor Who fan since the mid-80s, for the record. And I suckered my wife into becoming one.
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I’ll thank PBS for introducing me to it as a child.
My ifonez is nicknamed TARDIS
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by SoFa King Mike on Aug 21, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
My iPod is named Odysseus
My computer is named Penelope.
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Greek myth nerd!
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by SoFa King Mike on Aug 21, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
My computer is named Buster.
My iPod is named Tim.
My phone is named Matt.
My external hard drive is named Pablo.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
too easy
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Aug 21, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I name my computers after bluegrass musicians. So far I’ve had bigmon, lester, norman, ralph, and reno.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
I still haven’t watched the Baseball Boogie video.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
RUSH!
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
The Confessions of St. Mayoristine
I have no idea what ‘Firefly’ even is— tv show, movie, book, video game, graphic novel, manga?? No idea. I like to think it’s a hoax by many of you.
I haven’t played a video game since 1991 (Super Mario Bros.), and don’t intend to.
I’ve never touched a Harry Potter book (but will in about 5 or 6 years as the Heir of Mayor reaches the age to start reading them). Likewise ‘Twilight,’ which I know are vampire books, but nothing else.
I am only vaguely aware of Pokemons.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 21, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Harry Potter makes good family reading...
…if you’re into that sort of thing. We read them together starting when my boys were about 6.
Right now we’re reading the Percy Jackson series which is also good.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
Back when I was going to Berkeley people used to have joke protests with signs like “Stop Plate Tectonics” and “Thumb Wars are not the answer”
Examples in this post at California Golden Blogs
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
it's really quite simple
people who have health care (like me) are going to end up paying for people who don’t have health care; or are self-pay insured (i.e, pay twice as much for less). If we don’t pay directly through increased premiums, we will pay through increased taxes.
However, I am in favor of it anyway.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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People who currently have health insurance (like me) in fact ARE paying for people who don't have health insurance.
They still get health care; they get it the most expensive, least healthy way: namely at the ER.
Or here’s another real example: if a pregnant woman gets a couple of checkups during pregnancy, a handful of prenatal vitamins, a couple of well baby visits after the birth, the whole cost is a few hundred dollars, and it is established that babies are healthier and thrive better, and yes, are smarter…and thus would be expected to achieve more and pay more taxes later. Prenatal care is a smart, conservative investment for greater productivity later. (Yes, I know this sounds really cold. But it’s an example of doing well by doing good.)
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 21, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Which reminds me
I need to pay the bill from my ER visit a few months ago. Hooray.
SPEAKING OF EFFICIENCY:
They sent me a bill for about $25. I paid it. Then they sent me a bill for $80. wheeeeeeee.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
Most of the chunk that don’t have healthcare are relatively healthy, they just happen to cost more when they do get sick. They probably won’t drive your premiums or taxes up (much). The self-payers will, but I forget how many of them there are.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
I work for a Medical Billing company. I choose not to be insured.
El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."
Why?
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
If you’re healthy, you can just make a bet that you won’t get sick, and forgo paying the premiums. You’ll probably win the bet, you’ll just really lose if you lose.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
but that's not how insurance works
if the government (or whatever overarcing authority) just paid to cure the sick (and preventitive meds to protect the healthy) then adding a bunch of healthy people to the “healthfare” rolls wouldn’t make much difference.
But even healthy people get sick probabilistically, so the insurance co. has to “pay” to cover them (even if it’s a relatively low amount) + overhead + profit.
What it does mean (and this addresses the Mayor’s point as well) is that the costs don’t increase “as much”… but they still increase, and someone still has to pay.
To illustrate (totally made up numbers) Let’s say that there are 200M people insured in the US at a cost of $600B/year (including insurance company profits, etc.). – $3K/year. There are 50M people who are uninsured. The cost (to society) does not increase by $150, but rather some fraction of that.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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Please win at least 2 games. Please. For the children. Please
Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 21, 2009 1:44 PM PDT reply actions
What we need to keep in mind is that if splitting this series is equivalent to victory, then getting swept is equivalent to splitting. Thus, if you apply a tiny amount of circular reasoning, we really can’t lose here!
Until, of course, Bengie Molina has a career series, convinces Sabean that he has plenty — and, oh, do I mean plenty — left in the tank, and gets his two-year LOLstension.
Let’s go, Giants, don’t make complete asses of yourselves.
What I’d really, really like to see this series, is for the Giants to absolutely mash Jason Marquis’ nuts off. Like, 15 runs in one inning or something, so that no one EVER puts the words ‘wins’, ‘Coors Field’, ‘Jason Marquis’ and ‘Cy Young’ in the same sentence ever again.
I only have a signature because I recognize everyone else by their sigs, not their usernames..
P.S.
No matter what happens this series, I have to say this season has been a success.
I only have a signature because I recognize everyone else by their sigs, not their usernames..
somebody claimed wager
2:28pm: Jon Heyman of SI.com reports that an unknown team has claimed Billy Wagner on waivers. Wagner, who has $2.5MM coming his way before the end of the season, will make $8MM next year if his team doesn’t buy him out for $1MM. The Mets now have three days to work out a trade with the claiming team. Afterwards, they can either pull him back off waivers or allow the other team to take him and pay his contract, Alex Rios-style.
Dodgers maybe?
Politics on a sports blog
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
Lets play: who'd you rather have?
LF Carlos Gonzalez v. Velez/Freddy/Winn Carlos the Jackal
CF Dexter Fowler v Scott Rowand Fowler
RF Hawpe v. Schierholtz Hawpe’s better now. I’d rather have the next five years of Nate
3B Atkins v. Panda Easy call
SS Tulo v. Rent Easier call
2b Barmes v Freddy Freddy
1B Helton v. Garko hmmmm
C Iannetta v Bengie well, it’s their seven hitter vs. our clean up hitter, so . . . we get that one? right?
No.
I’ve got it 5-3 them. Which isn’t too bad, actually. And Jonathan’s pitching. If he’s on . . .
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But that's not the entire picture
It’s not just getting on base. You have to score runners once they’re on. The Rox, unfortunately, are also better than us at that. It’s also baserunning, another Rockie plus. It’s also power-which they also have more of. In fact, every aspect of offensive ball, they’re better than we are.
So that’s maybe a little depressing.
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by Giantsfan4life on Aug 21, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Aug 21, 2009 2:54 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
why no beard on helton?
"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"
by The Gene Hackman on Aug 21, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
She got tired of living the lie.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 21, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Haha
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
look closer
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Aug 21, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
clap clap
clap clap clap
clap-clap-clap-clap Sa-tan!
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Aug 21, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Can you do that more than once? Why did the Rockies ask for satan’s help in non-consecutive years?
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
Rockies being on satan’s side would be cool as hell but they’re god’s team, man!!
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
also LOL sanchez’d “cardinals”
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL TROLL
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Aug 21, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Batting Average or RBI's
Should we use both or just one when defining a player’s ability?
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
R-HR+RBI
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
I never got the -HR part
That’s just weird.
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
Because that way you don't double count!
Since a home run is a run that you both score and drive in, it would otherwise be counted twice!
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
But according to the formula, R = RBI. So if I drive in someone else, he gets the same amount of credit I do. Therefore, we each get half the credit. If I drive in myself, I don’t share the credit with anyone, so I get the full credit – twice the amount of credit I would normally get. So home runs should be counted twice.
It’s simpler and it makes more sense.
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
You are the first person ever to apply logic to this statistic.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
But that’s exactly why the -HR part is so weird! It implies that someone did put some thought (and math!) into it.
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
I think that whoever came up with this viewed it as each individual’s contribution to scoring runs, so it honestly didn’t occur to him (I’m just taking a wild leap here and saying it was a guy) that every run was double counted, and therefore homers shouldn’t have been subtracted.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
so it honestly didn’t occur to him (I’m just taking a wild leap here and saying it was a guy)
This is one of the most annoying things in English – writing about a person whose gender is unknown. I hate using “him/her”, “his/her”, “he/she”, etc. Feels wishy-washy.
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
People can and will debate this forever, but I favor using they as a gender-neutral singular pronoun. It’s the best of a bad set of options.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
thats what they said
"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"
by The Gene Hackman on Aug 21, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
it’s really fine for everyone but prescriptivist scum and SAT writers
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Oh I really really hate that. It just sounds so wrong.
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
I’ve noticed in a lot of academic stuff that it’s become really common to use “she” for a person of indeterminate gender. I’m OK with that. Not so much with “they”.
I don’t really like that either. It’s just as wrong as using “he”.
SOMEONE NEEDS TO FIX THIS
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
Well
Women outnumber men, so technically it’s not quite as wrong as “he.”
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
Actually, men outnumber women. For every 100 female born there are 101 males born, which makes up for the life expectancy thing.
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
I'm certain men outnumber women in the US
In fact, there are only like 4 or 5 states where that’s not the case.
I’m not as certain what the numbers are world-wide. I know that in a lot of third world countries men outnumber women.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
The CIA World Fact Book agrees with you, apparently
1.01 males per female world wide.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
It’s because in some countries, men are allowed to beat their wives to death legally.
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Aug 21, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, there’s also death from child birth combined with lack of access to birth control.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
It’s just bad for women in general around the world.
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Aug 21, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
and sharks
"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"
by The Gene Hackman on Aug 21, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of states where men outnumber women
The state with the highest percentage is Alaska. Apparently, Alaskan women have a saying when it comes to romance – “The odds are good but the goods are odd.”
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
Healthcare
The whole post is just an extended metaphor. Go reread it. Grant’s really subtle.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Actually, we’ve moved on to Chinese food by now.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
I like how there was an actual talk and debate about it instead of what’s actually going on. YOU SUPPORT THE NAZIS
Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 21, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
What the heck happened there
Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 21, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Jeff Kent to appear on Aug 29th
Jeff Kent is a Wall of Famer.
Upon his retirement after last season, Kent became eligible for induction on the Giants’ Wall of Fame by virtue of his All-Star appearance with the club. He’ll be formally inducted and recognized on Saturday, Aug. 29, and the Giants have set up a conference call with the media for Monday.
If you’ll recall, it’s a little less icy between Kent and the Giants. When I spoke to Kent last September, he even dropped strong hints that he’d want to be depicted with a Giants cap in the event he’s elected to the Hall of Fame.
He’s a former MVP, but he’s also a former Dodger — and former motorcycle stuntman. I’m sure there will be a mix of cheers and boos, but the fact he’s no longer wearing an LA uniform leads me to believe there will be more of the former than the latter.
I will cheer for him.
/Bonds comes out of no where and says, “I choked you once. I’ll choke you again Kent.”
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Aug 21, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
You are so lame
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Aug 21, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
/still trying to figure that out
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Aug 21, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
His wife is already running for the Senate (maybe, supposedly).
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Aug 21, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Is “nerd” supposed to be a negative thing? Most of the world’s richest people could be considered to be “nerds”. Plus “nerds” contribute a lot to society.
That’s a pretty nerdy response right there.
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
Two still makes you a nerd
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
So by this logic, John Kruk is probably a nerd?
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
3
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
Unfortunately you must do 5 for every post on a baseball blog so you probably owe a few more according to the non-nerd acceptance policy.
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
And then you have to join the Army
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 21, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
They’re in the case next to the Choco Tacos, right?
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
"enjoy the game more!"
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by Remember Noah Lowry? on Aug 21, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
HOUSING PRICES
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
Upon his retirement after last season, Kent became eligible for induction on the Giants’ Wall of Fame by virtue of his All-Star appearance with the club
Wait, since when is that a condition? Snow is on the wall and he was never an AS.
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
It’s either 10 years with the Giants or 5 years with at least one All-Star appearance.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Oh, I didn’t know it’s automatic like that.
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
Neither was Woody. There must be more criteria.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
I think I remember hearing… 5 years with an AS appearance at some point, or 9 years without one. Something like that.
by The Double Deuce on Aug 21, 2009 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
total hero. I’ll be there.
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Aug 21, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, yeah. But If a Kent type bat had been on the team, Barry would have likely stayed in the three hole.
Jeff Kent was on the team when Barry switched to cleanup.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
LOLINUP
Freddy Sanchez (sore left shoulder) is not in the lineup for a fourth consecutive day, but he will test it by taking BP — something he could not do during the three-game series in Cincinnati. He feels badly because he knows this is an important series. He issued an apology to fans, the organization and teammates, and pledged to play tomorrow if the shoulder is semi-decent.
LF Velez
SS Renteria
3B Sandoval
C Molina
RF Schierholtz
1B Ishikawa
CF Rowand
2B Uribe
P J. Sanchez
So how much longer does Velez have to suck before he gets benched?
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Honorary gritty vet
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
TWHS
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Not much longer.
All we have to do is wait for another Giants prospect to get hot.
"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"
by The Gene Hackman on Aug 21, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
no apology necessary Freddo.
Better sit and heal than play and suck (here I’m looking at you, Aaron Rowand).
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Sanchez is made of porcelain.
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
HES NOT MADE OF LINCECAINIUM
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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clearly bochy wants to take game 1 with this lineup
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by Remember Noah Lowry? on Aug 21, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
It's so strange
I usually agree with Bochy’s meticulously crafted lineups, but today, there’s just something missing.
Ah, yes, “logic.”
There's plenty of logic!
Velez won’t get on base, so Renteria won’t ground into any double plays.
YOU’RE THE BEST, BOCH
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Do you think Bochy fiinishes writing out the lineup with a flourish, like an artist completing a masterpiece, the very picture of self-satisfaction or does he just scribble it out and then mutter unintelligibly to himself while flciking the light switch on and off?
vladimir guerrero?
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by Remember Noah Lowry? on Aug 21, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
So many things wrong with that lineup. Renteria batting 2nd…..No Lewis….Velez….Entire lineup.
Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 21, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
So many things wrong with that lineup.
This is pretty much always true.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
LOLINEUP
Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 21, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
The fundamental problem...
…is that it has too many Giants on it.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
I kind of hate when Bochy has Ishi in there, pretty much admitting that we need defense over offense
With malice towards the Dodgers
I dont even want to watch this game, and I won’t. Going to see Inglourius Basterds. I expect it to be less gory than the game
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
I hate that OBP black holes are surrounding our one above average hitter
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
If it was real, they would show it on the scoreboard.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
They do at Chase field. OPS too!
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
Didn't it turn out they even do it at Turner Field?
Francoeur is an idiot.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
It's Pat!
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
They made a movie out of that. It also starred Dave Foley. I watched it on Channel 36 while feverish and home sick from work one day. It was so, so bad.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
either way after a long night of drinking
would be a HUGE mistake if you woke up next to that in the morning
AMIRITE?!?
With malice towards the Dodgers
There are plenty of people you see in day to day life that don’t look strongly feminine or masculine – we only care about this person because she’s great at running 800 meters very quickly. I’m not sure how it’s fair to demand a gender test from her and not from every other runner.
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
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seems enthusiastic about jism
Wir müssen wissen — wir werden wissen!
by seesdifferent on Aug 21, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Makes me wonder if she grew her hair out and looked more stereotypically feminine if anybody would really care. This just strikes me as initial impressions taking over good judgment.
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
This is a really charming thread.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
haha this whole controversy is making pretty big noise. The major outlets might not be calling her/him “Pat,” but there are investigations and what not that are going to go on
With malice towards the Dodgers
lolinup
Remember the old days when you would count (in advance) how many batters it was before Barry, Will or Jack Clark? Pablo’s nice… but there’s no one to fear/look forward to anymore.
First Giants Game: 4/79.
Heartbreak ever since.
by johnniedisaster on Aug 21, 2009 4:01 PM PDT reply actions
I do that with Pablo because the players around him are so awful, that its nice to have an above average hitter
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
It’s not the same though. Pablo hits and then we get Bengie. Not quite Bonds and Kent
Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 21, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I count down batters to Pablo
Not Bengie
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
Ahhh Football
the plan B sport.
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
cause we give a fuck about the east coast bias?
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
HIP HIP JORGE
HIP HIP JORGE
HIP HIP JORGE
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Aug 21, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
FOX/ESPN BRASSZEZ!!
EVERY GAME SHOULD BE NATIONALLY TELEVISED!!!!!1
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
ALL OTHER SPORTING EVENTS POSTPONED FOR THE DURATION OF THE WEEKEND
The strongest force is the universe is biding its time in Fresno, brother.
by rightcenterfielder on Aug 21, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuck the Rockies and their minor league team.
Makes me ashamed to live near Modesto….
Now offering free hugs from Amy G.
Billy Ripken is still a douche bag.
Your Modesto Venereal Diseases!
Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 21, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I prefer the Montgomery Biscuits
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
definitely
The strongest force is the universe is biding its time in Fresno, brother.
by rightcenterfielder on Aug 21, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow
I kind of hate mascots. Seems like the whole atmosphere is kind of goofy at baseball games. I don’t know about AT&T park but at Chase field they always have the dumbest shit between innings such as three cartoon hot dogs racing around the bases on the jumbotron, a taco mascot racing a pepsi mascot on the field, cheerleader type girls at random sections in the park throwing t-shirts, etc…
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
Angels AT Blue Jays...
So why are the Blue Jays wearing powder blue uniforms instead of white, and the The Angels Angels of Anaheim are wearing very light colored uniforms?
And once again, all blessings upon MLB Tv for looking in on all games in progress, not just NYY vs BOS. I appreciate that they seem to design their programming and editorial choices on the assumption that their viewers are probably baseball fans and fans of their own teams, and not JUST NY/Bos/LA/Chi.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
They can make it like the upcoming RJ bobblehead night:
“Remember when he played for our team that one time?”
The strongest force is the universe is biding its time in Fresno, brother.
by rightcenterfielder on Aug 21, 2009 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Prediction: Lose 3 of four: out by 4. Maybe the Dodgers will continue to flounder. Please!
Maybe tonight they’ll get a hit with RISP that doesn’t just move slow runners to 3rd.
by orange and black on Aug 21, 2009 5:55 PM PDT reply actions
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