What's the deal with Velez?
by Goofus on Aug 2, 2009 10:39 AM PDT
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I haven't seen an in depth discussion of the return of Velez. Since being called up, he's actually been contributing to wins. His impressive numbers(211 OPS+) can easily be attributed to small sample size, but to me he looks like an entirely different player. He's playing smarter and with more confidence, both at the plate and in the field.
I think the general consensus is that he was a player with some tools but just didn't have an aptitude for the game. Seeing him since he returned, it looks like someone put a new brain in his head.
Could it be that Velez could actually be a part of this team on a go-forward basis? If he keeps getting on base like he has been, he could be catalyst at the top of the order and perhaps playing LF. I know people normally like to have a slugger at that position, but I'm reminded of Alan Wiggins (late father of basketball star Candice Wiggins) on the Padres in the 80s, a skinny speedy LF/2B who helped set the table and contributed to a pennant.
The thing the jumps out at me about Velez and makes him so intriguing is his ability to hit the ball hard. He's hardly a slugger, but his game doesn't rely on bloops and seeing-eye grounders like Burriss. Along with his speed, it makes him a hard guy to give up on.
So what do others think? Is he teasing us with fool's gold or has he perhaps settled down and found himself?
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I remember during spring training last season, a Cardinals fan was lobbying for STL to trade for Velez, arguing that he reminded him of a young Jose Reyes. I wouldn’t go that far, but in this lineup I’m gonna take all the positive signs I can get. My only concern is, do we put him in the outfield (at least until he cools off) now that Sanchez is here?
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by Useful_Idiot on Aug 2, 2009 10:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
His swing looks great and his fielding has look................ok?
I dont think he can sustain it, but if he improves in the field, he could end up being a solid major leaguer. I hope he can find at bats in the outfield until he cools down.
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by CB30 on Aug 2, 2009 10:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
BABIP of .529 since the call up
For what that’s worth
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by CB30 on Aug 2, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BABIP is barely relevant over an entire season’s sample size…let alone 20 ABs. You can’t draw ANY conclusions from that. He could be getting lucky, he could not. Time will tell.
by Nibbler on Aug 2, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He does hit the ball surprisingly hard, doesn’t he? Still, it has only been six games. Free-swingers can often get off to a hot start, till the pitchers remember they don’t have to throw strikes.
by Evan on Aug 2, 2009 10:53 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree, but he seems much more patient at the plate this call up. I’m seeing him take pitches, work counts, and even take a walk or two. He hasn’t shown this ability before.
by tyrannoman on Aug 2, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is the ticket for him, and you hear people say it all the time, but the importance of getting into a hitters count is ridiculous in how it changes the pitches you’ll see, and have the opportunity to put good wood on during an AB. Personally he seems just hot, but if moving forward he has actually changed the pitches he’s willing to offer at then he could be a useful player, but he shouldn’t be a starter on a good team
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by joeytothelimit on Aug 2, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He might be a fluke, but whatever, lets play the hot hand. Lots of players have fluky years…all we need is a fluky 2 months.
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by rotorueter on Aug 2, 2009 10:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yup.
If he wants to have slower longer burn of Mike Benjamin’s hot streak I’ll more than take that. I’ll enjoy the career minor leaguer have a few moments in the sun years of riding buses, darn right I will. But it will take more than a couple “hot” weeks before I view him with as much positive trust as I have for Lewis.
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by daveinexile on Aug 3, 2009 6:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dallimore!
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by Goofus on Aug 3, 2009 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s playing smarter and with more confidence, both at the plate and in the field.
Really? Are we watching the same guy. He’s hitting a little, but he’s still an adventure in the field.
by xanthan on Aug 2, 2009 10:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by Roger on Aug 2, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Josh from Hollywood on Aug 2, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I must admit — I’ve always liked that name. It’s hard to get 5 syllables into a single name.
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by Roger on Aug 2, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
5 syllables in 8 letters is an accomplishment
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by CB30 on Aug 2, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by CB30 on Aug 2, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A double dipthong will do that.
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Is a dipthong some sort of new swim suit the kids are wearing now days??
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by daveinexile on Aug 3, 2009 6:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also...
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by Josh from Hollywood on Aug 2, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know he misplayed the ball off the right field wall the other night and he waited too long on throwing the ball from the Howard shift yesterday, but it seems like he’s taking much better routes to the ball in the OF and picking some nice grounders at 2B. He’s by no means a great defender, but he seems much more competent in the field.
Of course, we’re talking sample size here, so he could have eight errors + bizarre routes + “EugeniLOL” defensive plays in the next series.
by deuce deuce on Aug 2, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He just looks like the same guy to me. He rarely fields a ground ball in front of himself. He reminds me Roger Dorn.
by xanthan on Aug 2, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by BasqueDuck on Aug 2, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hilarious
how on every subsequent chance he WHIPPED that ball over.
He just misjudged Howard’s ability/desire.
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by victor frankenstein on Aug 2, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As long as he contributes, he is part of this team’s future.
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by NateisGreat on Aug 2, 2009 11:00 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
that
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by victor frankenstein on Aug 3, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know Kruk, Kuip, Miller and Flem are sort of required to say good things about Giants players no matter what, and Kruk especially tends to overvalue small performances/sample sizes, but they have raved about his increased “confidence” and different “presence” on the field. Who knows? Maybe Velez has turned a corner in his career. Right now, the Giants should ride him while he’s hot and see if can keep performing at a high level.
by deuce deuce on Aug 2, 2009 11:00 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice Post Goofus!!
The thing that bothers me about Velez is that he hasn’t shown that he can steal bases at the major league level, which is the one area where you would think he would excel. Earlier in the season he looked totally foolish attempting to steal (esp against lefties) and he certaily has looked tentative thus far in his return…
Having said that I certainly appreciate the effort and spark that he has given this team, but I still would prefer Torres over Velez if the battle was between them, for the 25th spot on this roster
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by Mordy From Monsey on Aug 2, 2009 11:03 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Re: Steals
I’m ok with him not stealing bases as long as it means no pickoffs. Really, I just want a player in Velez’s utility role to not hurt the team. If he can play average defense and not run into outs, I welcome a player who can play multiple positions and has a little pop.
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by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Aug 2, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One ticket please.
Seriously if he needs to not steal that much to focus and being better on hitting and fielding for awhile I am more than fine with that. Plus with his speed he can still got from 1st -3rd base on an awful lot of singles that make it out of the infield. Just stop with the stupid outs on the base paths and let the other team have to worry about him for a bit.
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by daveinexile on Aug 3, 2009 6:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But remmeber is Spring Training last year? He was stealing bases at will. I’m not sure if it was because pitchers weren’t showing their best pickoff moves or he just got too aggressive, but there was a time where we all thought he could steal a base any time he wanted and there was nothing anyone could do about it.
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by Goofus on Aug 3, 2009 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Part of it was the level of pitchers. Both their readiness and some case thier general skill level. Another part of it was every one knew the ’08 Giants were a 90+ loss team in the making. In those conditions a squad can, and should, take more chances tying to develope players “+” skills.
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by victor frankenstein on Aug 3, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, but I think that’s a lot more learnable than being able to catch the ball, which is something I had serious doubts about after watching his previous stints with the big team.
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by Goofus on Aug 2, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Velez, I know he has some worts as a player but he also has a lot he can contribute to a ML roster and I like him in a super utility kinda role going forward.
by Hobbes2d on Aug 2, 2009 11:08 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You know, before he got called up, he wasn’t even hitting particularly well in the PCL – Minor League Splits has his MLE as .259 / .294 / .373. That’s pretty much the same as what he did last year. It’s also not very impressive for a 27 year old playing in an extreme hitters’ league.
I’m sure he’ll cool down. His current stretch reminds me of nothing so much as his brief cup of coffee in 2007, when he hit 2 triples in 11 at bats and tricked us into thinking he was a prospect.
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by jcb9 on Aug 2, 2009 11:13 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ah, but he was 5-for-9 in his last two games in the PCL!
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by Evan on Aug 2, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Velez = Pyrite.
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by can of corn on Aug 2, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did we trade him to Pittsburgh?
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by Josh from Hollywood on Aug 2, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“It’s also not very impressive for a 27 year old playing in an extreme hitters’ league.”
True, but since you used MLE’s the hitters league part of it doesn’t really matter, right?
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by victor frankenstein on Aug 2, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice
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by Sabertooth on Aug 2, 2009 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've always liked Velez
as a 25th man on a roster. I don’t think his future is as a starter though. His defense will keep him out of second and center (where his bat might play pretty well IMO) and his offense will keep him out of the corner OF positions.
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by j14 on Aug 2, 2009 11:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’ve always liked Velez as a 25th man on a roster.
Pretty much. Thinking that he’s a new man based on these couple dozen at-bats is a little goofy. Er, Goofusy.
by Grant on Aug 2, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think his ability to even stay on the team was in doubt until recently. I’m not thinking of him as a long-term starter, but with all the injuries in the outfield and Winn’s inability to hit LHP, maybe he should keep getting playing time.
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by Goofus on Aug 2, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think there's no harm in riding the hot hand
But the idea that he’s more than a bench player is optimistic. I want to see him field without it being an adventure, and to lay off a few more balls in the dirt before I’ll believe. I could see him as a very poor man’s Chone Figgins, and those guys have their uses.
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by Aadik on Aug 2, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’d prescribe ritalin. physical ability isn’t his problem.
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by SimpleJaquez on Aug 3, 2009 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dang
If he was called up earlier, we could have traded him straight up for Freddy Sanchez Matt Holliday Scott Rolen Tim Alderson!!!1
Wait…
by SoFa King Mike on Aug 2, 2009 11:56 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hurricane Hazel?
If he gets super hot for two months and gets the Giants into the playoffs – fine by me!
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by Bobeau on Aug 2, 2009 12:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He's just hot
and it coincides with his callup. Enjoy it while it lasts
by NeifiChicken on Aug 2, 2009 12:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
True, but none of the other AAA players who were supposedly hot in Fresno (aren’t they all during the summer there), carried it to the Bigs – so we have to applaud him for that. However, I don’t exactly trust that this is a new Velez, especially in the field where he misplayed the ball off the wall in right and let the ball get to him on the Howard grounder. If he continues to work on these defensive lapses then I will start to believe – just a little bit.
by APGiantsFan on Aug 2, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BIG BUT
Both of those plays were screw-ups, but I’d cut him a little slack:
- By all accounts RF at AT&T is one of the toughest to play and that wall has all kinds of goofy angles. Velez has had very little time out there to get used to it. It’s not like that’s the first time we’ve seen an outfielder have an adventure out there.
- On the grounder from Howard, I’d chalk that up to inexperience. It could be the first time he’s ever played short right-center field.
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by Goofus on Aug 2, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and he’s looked solid in CF thus far. I would actually start him there and Winn in RF (the switch Bochy made Thursday night). RF is probably tougher than CF at Pac Bell/SBC/AT&T.
by tyrannoman on Aug 2, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, but none of the other AAA players who were supposedly hot in Fresno (aren’t they all during the summer there), carried it to the Bigs – so we have to applaud him for that.
Suck it, Frandsen!
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by Goofus on Aug 2, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey
Franny was never given a shot. Just ask him!
by FireBrianSabean on Aug 2, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like what I’ve seen from him so far on this stint in the majors, but I don’t expect it to last. Plus I need to see him play competently on the road for a long stretch before I’m convinced he’s a different player.
That said, it’s really fun as a fan to have a player on your team nicknamed “Fast Black Abraham Lincoln.”
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by Kitspool on Aug 2, 2009 12:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
His babip is ridiculously high since the callup as was previously stated, and with no huge change in his underlying numbers (LD%, GB/FB, etc.) I can’t bring myself to call it anything more than a serious string of good luck. That said, I’ll be happy to enjoy it while it lasts.
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by beat_la_25 on Aug 2, 2009 12:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
velez hit a hr, and he's on the giants.
’nuff said.
by HOLDEMUPwuzzBANNED on Aug 2, 2009 12:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I was at that game and that ball was drilled. Absolute p-rod.
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by cornball on Aug 2, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s no question that Velez is a better player than he’s showed in his call-ups so far.
There’s also no question that he’s not as good of a player than he’s showed in his current stint.
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by jponry on Aug 2, 2009 1:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
it’s all the power of the prophecy
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by oldjacket on Aug 2, 2009 3:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
noticed his batting stance far forward in the box. maybe trying to get to pitches before the full break. don’t know if he did this before
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by pynchon59 on Aug 2, 2009 4:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
pretty sure he did. It’s the one thing I remember from his stance – that he’s always so forward. I used to think it was a problem. Maybe now he’s using it to his advantage?
by zuma420 on Aug 2, 2009 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ride him in to the ground
once he stops hitting back to fresno for yoooou
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If you call up enough AAAA players, one of them is bound to get lucky in his first 30 ABs.
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by groug on Aug 2, 2009 5:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Lucky? He’s been smoking balls to OF Ge went from infield singles to line drive in only a couple of months. He’s def not on roids too 6’1" and 160 lbs.
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…will be claimed off waivers nonetheless
by KrazyKrabMeat on Aug 2, 2009 5:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
SSS!
Regardless, I’m enjoying it. I’ll take it as long as he wants to play well. Then we can turn on him again after he starts sucking.
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The ultimate in entertainment!
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by Roger on Aug 2, 2009 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he’s never boring
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by oldjacket on Aug 2, 2009 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
small sample size
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by Goofus on Aug 2, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course. Thanks!
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by can of corn on Aug 3, 2009 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I, for one, believe that this is the real Eugenio and that he is here to stay! Really, I do! Believe!
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by nvsfg on Aug 3, 2009 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he is just going to be a bench player when nate gets off the dL because he winn and rowand will start in the outfield so no room for velez to start just stay hot till nate gets back
by elmolb23 on Aug 2, 2009 10:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
1 long HR, 7 RBI in 7 games, hits in 7 straight games, is on base at least twice each game and kind of clutch with RISP so all in all a very good week for Yoo-hee-ne-yo. This is what all the AAA players should shoot for when they get called up (see Frandsen, Guzman and Bowker) because that’s the only way to stay in SF.
Giants can’t be giving all Fresno players extended chances when they aren’t contributing because their offense is struggling as is. I admit I was LOL WTF when Velez came up and Bowker went down but now I am only LOL.
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by SimpleJaquez on Aug 3, 2009 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's making a case for the next statue at the ballpark
okay, maybe a stretch, but a skinny Dominican can dream…
by sayheybk on Aug 3, 2009 12:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Remember last year when he had back-to-back walk off hits against the D-Backs?
That was cool
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by stealth snail on Aug 3, 2009 1:08 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
thanks for this thread
i am camping, no news or internet for a week, and now velz plays and hits in 7 straight games i got to say wooooo woooo the guy is clutch. felipe alou once said eugenio has thunder in his hands when he hits. i think that meant power and dingers
what the heck you can always put in a defense replacement, this guy can get you the lead
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by foothillsfan on Aug 3, 2009 2:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If he continues to hit, no matter how flukey it is
my emotional fan side will be in favor of him.
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by baetown415 on Aug 3, 2009 2:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He's always been a streaky player
As most BABIP driven players are. When he’s hot – he’s really good, and then he goes cold.
Remember him post callup last year? He was pretty awesome.
Let’s just ride him while he’s hot but not read too much into this for the future.
I wonder how many more WAR he would have been worth @ 2b vs what we’ve gotten out of the position so far this year tho? While he can’t really field he’s always been able to hit…
by FairweatherFan on Aug 3, 2009 8:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
he comes from a good family
he’s still got a lot to learn… he’s got some game changing talents, and some game changing liabilities… glad to see the giants are actually trying to develop him, and that he takes well to being “developed.”
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Play the guy who touched the cornballer.
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by ResDog on Aug 3, 2009 11:04 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It is not really the same Eugenio.
Velez had a twin brother in the Dominican, that was actually better than he is, they switched places. Eugenio was just holding the slot for his twin. Now that we finally have the real ballplayer to the coupling, it is a positive move forward from here. And Commissioner, you prove that the giants p ulled a fast one here. If you can’t then put that in your cigar and smoke it.
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Coupling , Nat.
He said coupling.
yeah , BTFOOM* too…
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