Eugenio Velez and the Logic Behind Randy Winn
by Grant Brisbee on Aug 19, 2009 11:15 AM PDT
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Well, (veteran player)y has been hot lately, as he looked really focused when that last pitch was between 30 and 50 feet from the plate, so even though he's 0-for-40 in his last 30 at-bats, he's now hot and worthy of some starts.
It isn't that hot streaks don't exist. It's just it's impossible for the human mind to differentiate between a true hot streak and random fluctuation. It's like trying to count atoms with the naked eye. So when Eugenio Velez has twelve multi-hit games in the 21 games he's played, that's fantastic, but it shouldn't mean more than the 305 major league at-bats before the hot streak, and it certainly shouldn't mean more than the 2000 plate appearances in the minors when it comes to evaluating Velez's true talent level.
But are you going to take Velez out of the lineup? His scouting report from the past month: Dude hits balls hard. Hard to sneak a mistake by him right now. And if Bochy were to say something like...
Well, Bowkery's MLE is keeping me warm at night, so even though Geney's swinging a good stick and not, you know, chasing after every slider thrown to him, the numbers say that Bowky should get the job.
...I'm not sure how excited I'd be. It would fall within internet baseball nerd orthodoxy, but it just wouldn't feel right. Velez is hitting baseballs hard, and he's temporarily avoided looking like a poisoned antelope in the field. He should play. Take your reason and shove it. Forget that the term "sample size" exists.
Wait. That's actually a very, very stupid way to live life. Ignoring reason to go with yer gut? Ouch. So why does it make so much sense to "ride the hot hand?" Between May 21 and July 27, nothing happened to make Velez a good option to start in a major league lineup. He wasn't bitten by a radioactive talented player, he wasn't exposed to gamma rays, and he didn't learn to draw strength from the yellow sun. It's smart to expect a drop-off any day now. But if you were the manager, how could you justify writing anyone else in the lineup? How would that look to the rest of the team? "I don't really care if you produce. I've made up my mind on how talented you all are, nothing's going to change my mind, and you'll just have do deal with it."
That'd be awful. Except that's exactly what Bochy has said to Nate Schierholtz. The definition of "produce" is a little up in the air for this example -- it isn't as if Schierholtz is hitting every other pitch for extra bases -- but Randy Winn has been terrible this season at the plate. Schierholtz has at least been passable. Bochy isn't a hot streak agnostic; he's a cold streak agnostic. He keeps waiting for Winn to get talented again. And that's an awful way to run a baseball team.
Except it almost makes sense. I might not believe in hot streaks, but I believe in Randy Winn hot streaks. He's easily the streakiest player I've ever watched: take a look at his game logs from 2008. He'd string together a bunch of 1-for-5s and 0-for-5s for three weeks, and then rip off a month of multi-hit madness. If Randy Winn finds his stroke for the last month, he'd be much more valuable to the Giants than Schierholtz would be.
Looking for a thesis? A point? An argument? Not in this post. This is mostly a begrudging confession that it's a littler harder to write a lineup card than we might think. There's no way Winn should bat fifth -- he hasn't hit a home run since April 25th -- but playing Winn and waiting for a hot streak isn't necessarily crazier than ignoring a player's hot streak to play a (supposedly) more talented player. So while I'd be perfectly satisfied if Velez were swapped for John Bowker right now, I'll have to accept that's the logical equivalent of running Winn out there every freaking day, even though it looks like he left his talent on a doorstep, rang a doorbell, and ran away. Stats compiled over of a stretch of 50 to 500 at-bats aren't always the final word on a player's talent level, and that applies to players doing well as much as it applies to players doing poorly.
So I'll just cross my fingers and hope hit alllllll works out.
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I’m just hoping beyond all hope that 5 hits in the last two games is the start of a crazy 2005-esque hot streak for Winn and not just an excuse to keep him in the lineup for the next ten games when he goes back to sucking.
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I’d even take a return to career averages for Winn. Although the 2005 OMGWTF version of Randy would be most welcome.
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 19, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
/Sabes resigns him for 2 more seasons
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
We, and the entire Internet, ought to adopt a convention for purposes of clarity: say “re-signs” when we mean that someone is re-upping, and “resigns” when someone is quitting. You can generally tell from context but it would spare even the split-second of panic you get when you initially read it wrong.
by non sequitur on Aug 19, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, that was my bad
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
/considers debating the difference between “split – second” and “split second”
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by victor frankenstein on Aug 19, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
how about "sec/ond"?
Too on-the-nose?
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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 19, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I try not to
play my hand.
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by victor frankenstein on Aug 19, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously, did I do “split-second” wrong? Always up for more edyoukayshun.
by non sequitur on Aug 19, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
We should be building our lineup with the thought of what each piece will do in the future – what they did in the past is irrelevant except in what it might tell us about future production. Unfortunately, predicting the future is hard. Is Winn really just done or has he been unlucky or something this season? Can he turn it around? I don’t know. Can Velez maintain what he’s been doing? No reason to really think so, everything else in his history says he just isn’t the player he’s been showing us recently. So I can understand playing Winn (though he shouldn’t be leading our team in PA’s or anything), though we might regret it after it’s all said and done…
It might come down to whose history you believe more – Winn’s MLB career or Velez’ minor league career…
Thing is, old players get old and lose their talent. Happens every time.
Less-than-stellar minor leaguers sometimes blossom into stellar major leaguers. And often times THAT is because of an adjustment between the ears.
True. The problem with old players is determining if they’re really done or something else is going on. Sometimes it’s more clear than others…
by Missing Barry on Aug 19, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Velez
I’m starting to believe. There’s always been talk about how, for a slender guy, he has the ability to hit balls hard. It doesn’t seem that far-fetched that he’s putting it together. Maybe it’s as simple as feeling though he is a big-leaguer and has more of a relaxed confidence at the plate and thus being able to think clearly and better recognize pitches.
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I think Velez can be a useful player, but I think he’s less of a 107 OPS+ player and more of a guy who can play a bunch of positions (ahem) and be a bit below average as a hitter.
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The thing about Velez that is striking to me
is his newfound ability to lay off pitches that he cannot drive. Whereas, in the beginning of the season he would tap that pitch low and outside and ground out weakly to 3rd, right now he is either fouling it off or laying off completely. If you can’t do anything with it, leave it alone until you get to 2 strikes.
Of course it is coming at a time when young good arms tend to be worn down and not as good as they usually are and were teams that have issues with their 4-8 starters in the organization traditionally have to rely on the lower members of the group. I mean Velez has parts of 7 years riding bus and over 2k P.A.’s in the minors. If there is a time for 27 show signs of being more than a AAA player (even if it is as a AAAA player) now would be that time.
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You wrote 'ahem'
but the correct spelling is ‘badly’.
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by Useful_Idiot on Aug 19, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Against RHP
Hot streak or historical, you can’t expect much positive from Eugenio against LHP.
I'm still suspicious
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by SoFa King Mike on Aug 19, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
+1
but his approach @ the plate does not look fluky to me. He looks like knows WTF he’s doing, and his swings look good. The stupid follow-through he has doesn’t help, but he does look good hitting the ball.
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by bondslegend on Aug 19, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe Schierholtz was key in a different way. I know that stats rule, but maybe Winn felt Juggernate breathing down his neck and realized he had to fix his swing. Which he says he did. That’s what competition does for people sometimes. It remains to be seen if this is sustainable on Winn’s part, of course.
Nate has helped make this season fun for me as a spectator, and I am irritated to not get to watch him play. But, if Winn being in the line up means 8 run games and wins, Bochy should do it.
Is it wrong to assume that something was bugging/distracting Winn for part or most of this season (which includes but is not limited to the recent passing of his father-in-law) and it affected his performance? Maybe he’s truly coming out of his funk—or maybe even players having a bad year can regain their mojo for a week or two at a time.
Either way, Winn’s been quite consistent over the last four seasons, and so if he’s returning to his mean performance, it’s good news.
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Hell yes I’d take Velez out of the lineup. He’s not even really hot any more. His last home run was ten days ago, and since then his OBP is .317.
.259 / .310 / .407 in the last week. Not awful, but not exactly earth shattering either.
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He had the 2 for 21 spell against LA and first two at NY. Since then he’s been 6 for 13 (with 2 walks!). I’d have a hard time taking him out just yet too.
Long term, suspect.
Which is why unlike Winn, you actually do have to leave him in there.
What Grant isn’t being fair on here is that once in a while, players do in fact develop and change. The biggest fault of Giants management is not that they continue playing the Winns of the world and hoping they come out of slumps, but they do so over attempting to see if younger players actually have a shot.
I don’t know if Velez is changed, but I do know that if you sit him down for more than a day or two just because he has an OBP of .317 over a 10 day period and .259/.310/.407 in a week, you’re making the same mistake that you’ve made over and over the last few years and you’ll never find out the answer.
Small sample sizes are pretty much worthless in both data crunching and baseball.
Right. You don’t sit him down because he has an OBP of .317 over a ten-day period, you sit him down because he has an OBP of .316 over his entire career.
Preach It, Evan ! While I have enjoyed the production Velez has put up over the last month, I am just not convinvced it is for real. History suggests it is not.
We were having this exact conversation at some 3A game this weekend. After a first inning HR,
Seatmates: " How can Player X still be in the minors at his age ? He’s crushing the ball! Me:" I’m pretty sure that he must have a hole in his game somewhere." Seatmates: A hole in his game ? WTF are you talking about ? He crushed that ball ! " Me: “(grabs Blackberry looks up stats ) Well, in 350 MLB at bats he only has 3 HR’s, an OPB of .305, and 89 strikeouts. Looks like he can hit a fastball, but not much else” Seatmates: “Oh, nevermind”
While players can adjust, improve, and “figure it out”, historical data suggests the percentage of players that do are very, very, small.
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BUT MAYBE VELEZ IS ONE OF THEM!!
OR DO UR PUSSY STATS SEY OTHURWIZE U PUSSY STATHEAD
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You sound like you were at the game :-)
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Didn’t our broadcasting duo – well , one of them , anyway – point out recently that Velez had worked out some problem with how he was collapsing his back leg and now was able to stay on top of pitches better?
I like to believe that sometimes identifying and correcting mechanical flaws can help turn performance around…especially when it does.
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by victor frankenstein on Aug 19, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
The fact that he’s one of those “toolsy” players that didn’t really know how to play baseball makes me think that his breakout could be legit. But another part of me thinks that apples that look too good are always poisoned.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
But another part of me thinks that apples that look too good are always poisoned.
Go with that thought.
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Velez had worked out some problem with how he was collapsing his back leg
When will he correct that open faced abominantion of a batting stance ? Other than Ichiro, who else has had long term success with that unbalanced of an approach ?
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isn’t it slightly less open from one of the sides (I don’t remember which, but i wanna say right)
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Right. And since young players can’t EVER learn to adjust to offspeed and breaking balls, we should all use minor league stats and their “entire career” of 400 PA, Since Numbers Never Lie And We Can Quantify Everything And Project With 100% Accuracy So We Don’t Need To Play Anyone Unless Our Spreadsheet Says To Do So™.
Season 1, 266 PAs, .188/.240/.339,
Season 2, 170 PAs, .205/.250/.241
Season 3, 311 PAs, .202/.242/.455
“Can’t hit a slider to save his life. Hole in his swing bigger than his balding head.”
Career, .268/.317/.489, 378 HR, 5 AS appearances, 17 seasons (with the help of some injectables).
I’m not going to compare Velez to Matt Williams, but I do think giving up on who has shown periodic glimpses of talent before 600-700 AB at a minimum is how you never develop young position players at all. Hey, wait a minute, didn’t someone complain about that earlier….
I tried this same argument in 2007 when rxmeister said he was done with Frandsen after a few bad at-bats. rx reminded me that Matt Williams was only 21 when he was called up in 1987 after being the 3rd overall pick in the draft. Velez is 27 now.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
Thank You Pete.
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Which I was figuring would be brought up.
I give much more wiggle room and much less attention to statistics – especially minor league ones, which give you fair indications of some things (power, K rate) and utterly none about others (ability to hit breaking balls and offspeed stuff) – to someone who doesn’t get signed until 19 unlike those who play in travel leagues from the age of 10. The Baggs article on how Velez never hit off a tee until recently is a pretty good example of why I do so.
Now I grant you, if you want to complain about Velez, might as well complain about who they passed up in the MLB round of the Rule V draft that year….
Look, there are two issues here. One is Velez’s long-term potential. Some people think he has some; I don’t; whatever. We can argue about it in the off-season.
The more urgent question is whether he should be in the lineup right now, with the team in the middle of a pennant race. And the only conceivable reason to answer “yes” is that he had a hot streak a couple of weeks ago. By any long-term measure, he’s the fifth or sixth-best or outfielder on the team. A lot of people seem to think that he has improved in some significant way, but there’s no evidence for that in his peripheral stats.
His hot streak is now clearly, unequivocally over. So why is he still in there?
.310 OBP from an OF = awful
unless you are slugging 550.
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Here’s what really bugging me:
Eugenio Velez, past 20 games: .356/.391/.552.
Fred Lewis, past 20 games: .419/.490/.605 .
Forget sample size, forget career numbers, forget common sense, he’s not even outhitting Fred Lewis during this hot streak.
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
But Fred Lewis has no RBIs and he sucks defensively and he strikes out a lot.
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HOLY SHIT FUCK
I had no idea fred was hitting THAT well! What the hell??!?!?!?
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I've kinda given up on defending Fred
Even though I haven’t given up on him.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
So Albert Pujols sucks, because he’s not even outhitting Fred Lewis during this hot streak
Billy Ripken is not a fuck face
I’m sure Pujols has had any number of streaks where he out-hit that line.
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I’m sure many players have. Discounting Velez because some bench player has raked in his few at-bats is silly. Pick on Randy Winn, for crying out loud
Billy Ripken is not a fuck face
I’m not sure what your point is… when you take all the facts into account (Fred’s superior minor and major league career numbers, their equally poor defense, the fact that Fred has outhit him recently), I personally don’t understand why Velez gets the bulk of PT and Fred is buried on the bnech.
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Why is it Velez’ spot that needs to be taken right now? He’s actually hitting.
Billy Ripken is not a fuck face
Yeah but so is fred
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and Fred's a better defender
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That’s not his point.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Um
fred’s hitting better and plays better D. how is that not the point
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I don’t get what his point is – the trouble with “playing the hot hand” is that at some point, hot streaks end and sometimes it takes a bit too long to realize that Eugenio Velez is really just Eugenio Velez.
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but you can’t deny the mechanics shift.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
I think he looks like a better hitter, but could that just be because he’s, you know, actually hitting? I don’t have a photographic memory – I remember Velez sucking but I can’t exactly compare old Velez and new Velez exactly.
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sldjfs;ldjdskjf;fjdskfjfds My point is that Velez and Lewis are not the only two outfielders on the team. You could potentially play both of them sometimes, by removing either Aaron Rowand or Randy Winn from the lineup.
Hot streaks do in fact end. When that happens, take Velez out of the lineup, and send his ass to Fresno for all I care. For now, though, we should be enjoying the ride.
/puts on sunglasses
Billy Ripken is not a fuck face
Velez’s hot streak already ended man.
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:-) :-) :-)
I dunno about that. He had two bad games in NY, but has reached base 3 times in two of the last three games, reaching base twice in the other one.
Now, if we want to get into a philosophical debate about what exactly constitutes a hot streak, and the end of a hot streak, and whether or not there can be a brief lull in the midst of a hot streak, I will gracefull bow out, lest my head spins off of my body.
Billy Ripken is not a fuck face
Personally, I believe that hot streaks as a matter of ability don’t really exist at the major-league level. A manager who tries to “play the hot hand” is doomed to catch more of the regression than the streak, and thus will come out behind in the long run.
RBIS
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mmmm, ribs.
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McRib?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
judging performance by RBIs? totally
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It’s not that his spot needs to be taken, necessarily, but you have to ask just how well you actually expect both Velez and Lewis to hit over the rest of the season – I personally would bet on Fred.
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No, I agree. Fred is definitely who I’d bet on for more long-term success, but I think this needs to be a day by day situation here. Just keep rotating out the guys who are sucking. If both Lewis and Velez and are doing okay, then get them both in there. Unless you’re afraid of a defensive meltdown?
Billy Ripken is not a fuck face
Lewis-Velez-Garko OF oh yeah
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What?
Lewis has a much much much better track record than Velez.
And Albert Pujols isn’t having a hot streak so that doesn’t even make sense.
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
I mean seriously
Velez should start because hot streaks are meaningless, even though the only reason Velez should start is that he’s having a hot streak?
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:-) :-) :-)
Can we have another argument about whether Lewis is the 2nd best position player on the team?
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
Okay, but I get to be on Jrpony’s team then, and we can fight it out.
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
I like Jprony’s style over Jporny or Jponry. I’m on his team.
by Grant Brisbee on Aug 19, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
I was considering being on J’Ponry’s French team but figured that surrender would quickly be forthcoming.
Jprony is a douchebag
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Yea, but you have to admit that pj rony is an alright dude.
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 19, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
pj rony’s a dick actually
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
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you ain't all that
well , maybe some
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by victor frankenstein on Aug 19, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m with you. I like ponies, especially ones named Junior
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by say hey nation on Aug 19, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
OMG PONIES
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by ringleader3 on Aug 19, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
+1
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he gets to BALLS!
So Marilyn Chambers but I wouldn’t want her corpse in LF either.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 19, 2009 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
BUT THE UZR AND THE WALKS!
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DESTRUCITY!!!!!
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Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
WTF is up with his face? It kinda looks like that shinjo pic
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by say hey nation on Aug 19, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
His forehead is about to eat his eyes.
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 19, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
PLACES UNKNOWN!
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“Parts Unknown” usually means downtown Newark.
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Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
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ah, you’re right!
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by ringleader3 on Aug 19, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Fred Lewis is the chief cause of global warming
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Velez’ situation is pretty simple: you ride the hot hand until he regresses to his career averages. If he doesn’t regress? Fantastic, we have a productive CF/2B. If he does, then return him to PH role.
Winn should also be playing every day if he keeps up the multi-hit games. What’s wrong with playing Nate in left? If this sudden hotness of Winn is an aberration in his relatively below-average year, then move Nate over and let Bowkermania reign.
So to answer the question: No, I don’t think it’s harder to fill out a lineup than we often think.
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by UnleashTheGore on Aug 19, 2009 11:43 AM PDT reply actions
2B?
/clank
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by ringleader3 on Aug 19, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
how is gonna improve his slg % on the bench?
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by say hey nation on Aug 19, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
You can try downloading the image and then uploading it to tinypic or imageshack.
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by CrispinGloversBalls on Aug 19, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
maybe if he didn’t have so many almost HR’s and 420 foot triples he’d have higher slugging
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by SneakToBetterSeats on Aug 19, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
But in the process of doing that, you play him in a lot of games while he’s regressing to his mean (in other words, not playing productively enough) before you realizing what’s going on. That’s a problem.
by Missing Barry on Aug 19, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
it just depends on how long you give him. If Velez goes 5-25 for a week, then that’s pretty clear he’s no longer on a hot streak. I don’t think a week is season-breaking as far as letting him play every day.
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by UnleashTheGore on Aug 19, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
“I don’t think a week is season-breaking as far as letting him play every day.”
Considering the alternatives….a week definitely won’t hurt the season in any meaningful way…
by Missing Barry on Aug 19, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, he did go 4-for-25 for a week in there. Would you declare the hot streak over at that point and pull him from the lineup?
Well, according to the line given above of .259 / .310 / .407 over the past week, then I would be very quick to pull the plug, yes.
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by UnleashTheGore on Aug 19, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
btw
didn’t realize he was hitting so poorly lately. If he keeps it up over the next week, then I would definitely lessen his playing time.
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by UnleashTheGore on Aug 19, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
In addition to hitting the ball hard it seems as though he’s also been taking better at-bats as a whole. He’s been working counts in his favor more often and laying off of first pitch garbage. A lot of his “hot streak” can be attributed to better pitch selection
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by say hey nation on Aug 19, 2009 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s really some kind of secret message, isn’t it? You’re trying to tell us something, aren’t you?
by deuce deuce on Aug 19, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
U Z R?
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by ringleader3 on Aug 19, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
A compelling case
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A drunken rant.
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by victor frankenstein on Aug 19, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
tl;dr
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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 19, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I think to start the season next year Bochy SHOULD take minor league and career stats into account when he names who the starters are. For instance I would feel a lot more comfortable starting the season with Nate/Bowker as our starting corner outfielders then having Velez in there.
For the final month of these season however I have no problem having Bochy play the hot hand, go with his gut, or start whoever he feels gives us the best chance to win each day.
Believe in it or not, but we are in a pennant chase and the time for player development is OVER. I really hope from day 1 next year that we can name 3 starters in the outfield and play them the whole year but we just have to except that isn’t happening this year. I think we have 5 capable outfielders who all bring something different to the table and none of them are that much better than the other. Let’s just hope Bochy guesses right more than he guessing wrong for the rest of the year!
STATS
OPS – Winn .693, Rowand .765, Lewis .770, Schierholtz .758, Velez .798
So all these guys are within 100 points of each other, but our best hitter has the worst defense and our worst hitter plays the best defense.
Face it… we just have a bunch of mediocracy out there.
BTW, thanks for getting Bochy’s ridiculous nicknames into a post. He really shoehorns some of them in there.
by AndOnTheDrums... on Aug 19, 2009 12:12 PM PDT reply actions
i lol’d at: (veteran player)y
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by ringleader3 on Aug 19, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Me, I want to win
I’ll root for whoever’s wearing a Giants’ uniform. I loathe the idea of batting Bengie clean-up, but I also want him to hit. I’d rather see Schierholtz in right, but I’m also real fond of 4 run rallies and 10 run games, achieved recently (and improbably) with an OF of Winn, Velez and Rowand. At this point, I’m mostly just about cheering incoherently. I rather hope Bochy has a more enlightened approach. i sort of doubt it. But, you know: Go Giants
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by Giantsfan4life on Aug 19, 2009 12:19 PM PDT reply actions
I will root for whoever wearing a Giants uniform.
I hate that saying.It is OK to not like players on your favorite team and to not root for them becasue A) you don’t like them personally
B) you don’t like their skill set
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by say hey nation on Aug 19, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Its fine to not like them
But if you are a fan of the team, you should want them to do well
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Its not a given that I will root for everyone on the Giants. I will most likely not root against anyone who is currently a Giant but I will not root for evry single Giant.
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by say hey nation on Aug 19, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
With Sabean at the helm, I have to admit, there I times when I root for a player to fail miserably. It’s generally with the type of guys who if they show anything our franchise will keep them around and continue giving them chances they don’t deserve, whereas if they just fail miserably in a big ball of awfulness, maybe we’ll actually cut our losses and move on. Unfortunately, sometimes Rich Aurilia still gets to play despite failing miserably, so it’s a risky stance to take… :(
by Missing Barry on Aug 19, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed. Just when I think that the Giants are going to put Renteria on the DL, I start doing my happy dance. Then he goes 4 for his next 10 and I am sad.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Aug 19, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Akin to: “I agree with his actions because he is our President. You are not a patriot if you disagree!”
I root for “The Giants”. I don’t have to root for the Giants, “The” Giants, the “Giants”, or teh Ginats!
And on the 6th day, God created base-ball, and Barry put one in the water, and it was good.
"I think I just experienced my first Lincegasm."
Dang
I just noticed tomorrow’s game is at 9:30 AM.
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Crap
I forgot about that. I have a meeting at 9 AM that will likely run until 10:30.
/shakes fist. Damn You EST.
My adopted son Matt Downs . Ranked as the 24th best prospect in the Giants farm system by Baseball America !!
Ah , the purpose - driven life.
I’ll be rooting for any and all Giants , and there’s a 14% chance that I’ll be wearing more than boxers.
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by victor frankenstein on Aug 19, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
WTF
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YAY CENTRAL COAST
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Yeah, but then you have to live on the east coast.
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I lived on the East Coast for a combined 13 years, and I have no particular memories of country hame, I don’t think.
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States where I've lived
California 12 1/2 years
New Jersey: 10 years
Illinois: 3 years
New York: 2 years
Massachusetts: 1 year
Connecticut: 2 months
I hate moving.
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3
MT, ND, MN. I’ve made my way right accross the midwest! w00t
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PROLLY CUZ U R A VIRGIN!!!!
SICK BURN
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/b/c it’s true…
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
been in the bay area my whole like
palo alto, santa cruz, san francisco
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Bay Area towns where I've lived
Albany, Orinda, Hayward, Oakland.
Born in Berkeley. Went to DVC, which is in Pleasant Hill, for a bit.
I’ve pretty much been all over the East Bay, except for the whole Dublin/Pleasanton/Livermore area.
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That only shows my bay area places of residence. I have lived in CA, PA and FL.
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 19, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
MD , NY , WAstate.
that’s PRE Bay Area.
SINCE – Mi , CA (Santa Maria) , Saudi Arabia , Greece , NY, AZ
I’d give it all back to be the ten year old in Lafayette again.
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by victor frankenstein on Aug 19, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Bay Area, Central Texas, Bay Area, and soon to be sigh southern California
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
stupid autoformat
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Chronologically for me
Bay Area
Central Jersey
Bay Area
Central Jersey
Another town in Central Jersey
Bay Area
Central Jersey (briefly)
New York City
Connecticut (briefly)
Massachusetts
Chicago
Bay Area
Kinda crazy.
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GUNN HIGH PALO ALTO, CA.. wooot
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lol
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there were, at least there were 15 years ago…
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they sell choco tacos at the store on the corner of 24th and Valencia.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
DC’s always struck me as a Great To Visit Wouldn’t Want To Live There kind of a place.
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Add in the qualifier “also a good place to go to school”, and I think you pretty much have it.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
That is a relatively fun and low-stress place to live within DC if you can afford it.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
OMG DC is one of the cities I hope to live in one day, along with Seattle
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by say hey nation on Aug 19, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
say hey nation gets to be Jack Lemon. No way is a computer going to be Jack Lemon.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Aug 19, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve always really lived Seattle. And the Pacific Northwest in general. My wife and I went to the San Juan Islands for our honeymoon – it’s absolutely gorgeous up there.
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Me and my fince are flying out for a week. Her first time out, if she likes it we will probably move to the seattle area, and give up a free education
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by say hey nation on Aug 19, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
4
CA until 20
NH/MA until 22
PA until now
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by say hey nation on Aug 19, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
WHICH ONE I HAVE TO KNOW!!!!!!!!
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by say hey nation on Aug 19, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Double Hijack
Number of states you have been to: 15 for me
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40
Everything but Alaska, Hawaii, Oklahoma, Nebraska, South Dakota, Arkansas, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, and Maine.
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I do, actually!
But only because I was having this conversation with my wife and father recently. And I double-checked a map.
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You might be able to beat me for countries
I’ve been to six outside of the US. Two of them don’t exist anymore, kinda.
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Those being West Germany and East Germany
So you could count it as 5 if you wanted.
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Well there you go!
I’ve been to Canada, Mexico, France, the UK (England and Wales), and East & West Germany.
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My parents live in Tallahasse, which is pretty southern my Floridian standards.
Of course, I don’t like it very much!
When I was a kid, we visited the Blue Ridge Mountains. They were very pretty.
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Also
I’ve only sort of been to Idaho. I was on a train that went through the skinny part of the state in the middle of the night (I was traveling between Seattle and Glacier Park in Montana), and I was asleep the whole time.
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Ah Idaho. The newest member of the Confederacy!
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 19, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Jackson Hole.
In the 60’s Dad used to throw us all in the station wagon and haul us all over the Pacific NW. I remember seeing the “Jackson Hole” offramp circling around and looking into the center of that circle and thinking “That’s it?”
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by victor frankenstein on Aug 19, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
My wife spent a summer there and loved it. We’ve talked about going there for our tenth anniversary (which is in five years).
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Went there when I was 14.
The day after I arrived Alaska welcomed me with appendicitis.
Other than that , yeah.
Best place to see the Aurora.
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by victor frankenstein on Aug 19, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I went through North Dakota while I was traveling across the country – on that leg, I was on a train between Glacier Park, Montana and Minneapolis.
Also, when I was a kid, one of the times my family moved across the country we took the northern route through Montana (my dad’s home state) and Canada – we may have passed through North Dakota on that trip as well, but I’m not sure.
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23, sorry Xanthan the farthest south I have been is Arlington
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by say hey nation on Aug 19, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
make that 24 forgot to count Alaska
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by say hey nation on Aug 19, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
29 or 30. subtract 2 if you’re not counting just being in the airport for connecting flights (AZ and GA).
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 19, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
In our rules, it doesn't count at all unless you stepped outside the terminal and actually were outdoors for a moment.
But I didn’t score any of my 50 that way.
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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 19, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
what if you accidentally drove into one because it was right next to the state you were in and then you had to get out of it as soon as possible because you had someone in the car who wasn’t allowed to leave the state?
I think it counts.
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My brother graduated from basic training last summer in Fort Benning, GA and after one of the ceremonies, we got to hang out with him off-base for a few hours, take him out for dinner, etc. Anyway, we were driving around trying to figure out how to get back to Columbus proper and my dad accidentally took the wrong exit and all of a sudden we were in Alabama. We all had a good laugh and I was like, “Hey, we should just eat dinner here, so we can claim Alabama for our states map!”
And then my brother was like, “Actually, I don’t think I’m allowed to leave the state right now.” and we were like “Oh shi-” and turned around as soon as possible.
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My wife did that with Arkansas!
She was visiting Memphis at the time and got lost while driving, got stuck crossing a bridge.
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She didn’t have anyone who wasn’t supposed to leave the state with her, though.
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Actually, the entire state of Arkansas is populated by people who went there by accident.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
50 + DC. Fun fact: I have had a drink with a friend in all of them. Took 20 years.
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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 19, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
that’s awesome.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 19, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
That's a lot of friends.
Did you stiff them all for the bill?
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by victor frankenstein on Aug 19, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
It was the same friend, and yes, stuck him with the tab.
I am flattered that you think I might have 50 friends, though.
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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 19, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t mistake flattery with surprise…
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Show-off
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Aug 19, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Here's the link to the story of #50 in Montpelier, VT
http://www.timesargus.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041122/NEWS/411220347/1002
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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 19, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Whoa! I totally went to GWU for my first 2 years of undergrad, and then transferred.
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Fun fact
Montpelier is the smallest state capital, and the only one that doesn’t have a McDonald’s.
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It does manage to have two single-screen, independently-owned movie theaters.
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What about countries?
Taiwan
Japan
China (I’ve been to Hong Kong)
Singapore
South Africa
Ivory Coast
Brussels
France
Italy
Germany
Canada
USA
Mexico
New Zealand
Australia
Amazingly, South America is the only continent I have never set foot on. I plan on changing that sometime in the near future.
Canada
Mexico
US
Germany
Austria
Italy
South Korea
….
I think that’s all.
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I mentioned mine earlier
But just to get them in the proper place now:
USA
Mexico
Canada
France
United Kingdom (England & Wales)
West Germany
East Germany
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I haven’t been out of the country since 1998, though. :(
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Although I was in Canadian waters in 2004.
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Also
Countries I’d really like to visit:
India
China
Spain
Australia
Scotland (not really a country, but anyway)
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depends on how drunk I am. It won’t be the most dangerous festivity I have taken part in.
The Yen Sui firecracker festival is awesome. You walk through the streets getting pummeled by millions of firecrackers shot at your general direction
According to "survivors" of the event, the relentless onslaught of rockets and firecrackers unfailingly forces everyone to take a few steps back. Some of the more experienced festival-goers know to keep jumping during the duration of the attack in order to shake loose any smoldering fireworks that might be trapped in their clothing and set them on fire!
But no matter what you do, you still feel as though you’ve being pummeled by a stone-throwing mob. After the bombardment, a few bruises and scars are the souvenirs you can take back home with you along with the sensational experience.
Countries I'd really like to visit
All of them :(
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/sends jponry Kaliningrad
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But I know what you mean
I’d also love to see places like Patagonia, Bali, Sri Lanka, Tanzania, the far north of Canada, New Zealand, South Africa…and pretty much everywhere else if I could.
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It really is!
It’s not a country, but it is a real place.
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Because I know you all care
Kaliningrad is part of Russia. It’s separated from the rest of the Russia by Lithuania. I don’t know much about it, but I’ve heard a BBC story once that made it sound pretty god-awful.
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Which makes it an exclave
I mention that because I only recently learned that “exclave” was a real word.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
I know that (having looked it up). But you gotta admit it sounds made up. It’s a big old crazy world out there.
One of my favorite Onion articles was about Bush’s advisors playing a practical joke on him by pretending there was a crisis happening in some made up country, and then Bush had to try to calm the nation down and everything while all his advisors are dying laughing in the background.
scotland
definitely is a country. has its own government. own football team. if you ever do go, don’t try telling anyone there it’s not really a country
by scottishgiants on Aug 19, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Heh
I think that, technically, it would count as a nation, but not a country.
I’m of Scottish heritage myself (among other nationalities), actually.
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Scottland is weird: they have a world cup team, but not an Olympic team. Who decided this?
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Aug 19, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
none of the countries in the UK have their own olympic team, and they don’t compete in football (soccer), because it could potentially cause them to lose independence in other competitions (world cup, european championships, etc).
They’re making an exception for 2012, because it’s in London, but Scotland Wales and N Ireland have decided to withhold their own players from the UK team.
by scottishgiants on Aug 19, 2009 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Canada
Mexico
France
Netherlands
Germany
Italy
Switzerland
only north american and europe… i wanna hit up asia and south america
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Antarctica is a continent
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Aug 19, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
But not a country
So he could’ve been there without it being on his list.
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You sir, are genius logician. Thank you.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Aug 19, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
(Brussels isn’t a country)
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
I’ve always said we should annex Baja California. Just because the idea of part of California being in foreign hands chafes me.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
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I’ve always said we should annex the entirety of the Americas. Because the idea that if I walk far enough people won’t speak English chafes me.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Damn those Inuit-speaking bastards!
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Incidentally
During the Mexican-American War, some Americans did want to conquer and annex all of Mexico. One of the main arguments against doing so, though, was that absorbing all those dark-skinned Spanish speaking mixed-race Catholics would ruin our precious culture.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
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You should change your username to
JKP9
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
LOL HISTORY!!
I think the Mexicans would have the opposite perspective. I mean, it was their land first.
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 19, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Well if they were really so set on keeping it, they could have won the Mexican-American War.
We just wanted it more.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
US Army won more innings.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 19, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
BUT MANIFEST DESTINY!
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I think the US should honor the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo and allow free passage of Mexicans with relatives in the US.
So there.
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 19, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Native Americans are familiar with this stance!
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 19, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Honoring treaties is so quaint.
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Hold it-- you mean that Lars's "honor the treaty" thing wasn't sarcasm?
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 19, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, you made me think of a good argument for breaking treaties
“Duh, didn’t you know I meant it sarcastically!?”
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Twenty Two
CA, AZ, NM, NV, WA, OR, NY, NC, MA, MN, WI, TX, CT, VA, PA, MA, RI, IL, IN, UT, CO, ID plus DC
My adopted son Matt Downs . Ranked as the 24th best prospect in the Giants farm system by Baseball America !!
23
Though Texas was pretty cursory and I was barely in Colorado, I breathed the outside air in both of them.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
29
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18, if I'm counting correctly
And not including D.C.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
8 + DC.
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
Four
1) CA
2) AZ
3) NM
4) NV
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1, plus a District of Columbia
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by Useful_Idiot on Aug 19, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Only 1 for me (CA)
But then i’ve spend most of my life living in various parts of England (plus a couple of years in The Netherlands too)
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7 (if you include DC)
in chrono order: LA, WA, IL, NY, DC, OR, CA (with summers lived in MA and AZ)
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 19, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
2
California and Texas
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
3
Massachussetts
California
Indiana
Driving across country is a must do before you die.
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Aug 19, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Catch jcb9’s Rage Tour when it comes to your town!
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 19, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
God damn that's some separation
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States where I’ve lived
California 12 1/2 years
New Jersey: 10 years this sucks
Illinois: 3 years
New York: 2 years
Massachusetts: 1 year This sucks more
Connecticut: 2 months
I hate moving.
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by say hey nation on Aug 19, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
2
California
Washington
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 19, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
When did this hijack happen?
2 States,
CA and NY
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 19, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t know what you were talking about until I turned to Wikipedia and found out that country ham=virginia ham. Yum.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
I used to live in German Village and loved it. Too bad you aren’t planning on coming during baseball season, or I’d hook you up with Clippers tickets.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
Schmidt’s is gospel. Especially the cream puffs.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
EAST COAST HAM BIAS
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Sounds like Alex Rodriguez love
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by SoFa King Mike on Aug 19, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Everyone needs to get over the idea that John Bowker and Kevin Frandsen are Major Leaguers. Triple-A teams need veterans, too!
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Aug 19, 2009 1:12 PM PDT reply actions
Yeah!
They got their 30 at bats! DEAL WITH IT!
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 19, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
fail
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I was expecting this reaction. I just worry more about Schierholtz being used as a pinch-hitting specialist more than those two. Sorry to rock the boat.
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Aug 19, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
It's not "rocking the boat"
nobody here, including you, knows for sure if those guys are or aren’t ML talent, because they’ve never been given an ACTUAL shot.
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If either player moves on to another team and succeeds, I’ll admit “fail.” Personally, I just haven’t seen anything that makes me wish they got 400 AB’s last year, this year or anytime in the future. I know this is sacrilege, but I’m just not a believer that Fresno stats mean much, and I also think MLE are kind of a faulty way to judge players, since so many players perform differently one way or the other once they reach the Majors. It’s something to weigh, for sure, but it isn’t exactly the same game in San Francisco that it is in Connecticut or Fresno.
I love this site, and I’ve learned a ton from coming here (although I haven’t been able to as much lately, since I luckily got back into the workforce full-time a couple weeks ago…and I should probably get back to work, actually). I am just intrigued at why these guys have gained such a cult following on MCC, and admittedly kind of wanted to stir the pot a little. Maybe I just had a Kawakami moment. Oh God, that isn’t good.
I take back everything I said up to this point.
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Aug 19, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I can tell you that Frandsen’s cult following is mainly due to his ability to not be Burriss.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Originally it had to do with his ability to not be Ray Durham. He was pretty good at not being Eugenio Velez, too. And now he’s honing his not-being-Edgar-Renteria skills.
Not-being-Edgar-Renteria has really become a very important skill in the past few months. Amazing how the game can change so quickly.
I put “I’m not Edgar Renteria” at the top of my most recent resume, actually.
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Aug 19, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t be talking trash about my son.
My adopted son Matt Downs . Ranked as the 24th best prospect in the Giants farm system by Baseball America !!
Hey, I’ve always been a Downs guy. But I considered myself an optimist because I thought he could be a quality MLB utility player.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
I can tell you that Frandsen’s cult following is mainly due to his ability to not be Burriss
Don’t forget the Bellarmine factor.
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I believe!!!
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Aug 19, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, IMO at least
the other options (uribe, Rent) for every day starters @ SS are reason enough for me to want to see Frandsen. I’m not a huge believer in him, but I would like to see what he can do if given a longer stint. As for Bowker, he’s hitting wayyy too well in AAA to not get a legit shot. He may be a bust, but he is OWNING the ball and taking walks. Sounds like a good recipe to me.
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I’m with you on Bowker, but he sure seems to get nervous when he’s up with the big club. I guess it’s hard to blame him since every AB is do or die with the Grim Bochy watching like a hawk, ready to yank either player for a “savvy” vet. Both guys need a change of scenery/franchise if you ask me.
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Aug 19, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
every AB is do or die with the Grim Bochy watching like a hawk
This made me laugh.
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 19, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Does not help that Frandsen threw a Tamper Tantrum after the Sanchez deal went through.
Please do not feed the Panda
by prnkmonkie77 on Aug 19, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Or earlier this season when he was sent down. Just because it’s the Fresno Bee doesn’t mean people won’t find out.
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Aug 19, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Good thing he wasn't GM of the Brewers...
when Robin Yount came up. Or Matt Williams. Both would have been swept into the dustbins of time, never to be seen again.
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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Aug 19, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Routine rest for Pablo Sandoval, who looked a little sluggish at the plate Tuesday. Not a routine rest for Freddy Sanchez, who might have a strain in his left shoulder. He hopes by missing the rest of this series, he can knock it out. He says he is fighting to be out there, but he also has to be smart about it because there is a lot of baseball left.
fucking freddy
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Folks
It is somehow worse than yesterday
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but....
NATE!
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Batting third?
While Winn bats 5th? Umm, wouldn’t you want the guy with the better approach 3rd? Not that Winn’s approach is necessarily Bondsian, but still
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by Giantsfan4life on Aug 19, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
When we scored 8 runs
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O God
I had the horrifying thought the other day, looking at the crap lineup (which then proceeded to score 10 runs), “What if Pablo had the day off? Then think how bad the offense would be!” Well, I guess we’ll get to find out.
One time I found a 5 dollar bill on the ground
Crazy shit happens
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It's funny you put it that way
I knew a guy who used to play poo dollar on people.
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
I watched a poo dollar video. I’m a better man for it!
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Aug 19, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
velez 2b
/clankclank
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Yeah, I thought they’d given up on the Velez at 2nd idea after the error the last time he played there, but if Sanchez and Sandoval are out, they don’t have any other choice.
At least the OF defense should be really good!
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 19, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Winn is still hitting 5th! HA!!!
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 19, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I've given up writing lineups off
but this LOLineup coupled w/ Zito in a bandbox makes me glad I’m probably missing the game tonight
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This reminds me of the old Sunday forfeit lineups
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Well
the last 2 times I’ve thought the lineup was a “forfeit” lineup, they’ve scored 18 runs. So keep em coming!
I can see it crashing and burning in this game, though.
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that infield defense is frightening
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 19, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Now Jeter is under rated! Looks like that undeserving little piece of garbage Joe Mauer is going to steal the MVP away from him!
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Derek Jeter has answered many of his critics by immensely improving his defense.
I’ve seen this said in three different articles already. I shouldn’t be surprised that they were in msm outlets though.
well he has by UZR. this is pretty much the only time that MSM outlets give UZR any credit ata ll.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
You’d think their reaction to this would be “WHAT JETER HAS ALWAYS BEEN GOOD AT DEFENSE UZR SUCKSSSS” instead of “LOOK AT HOW GOOD JETER IS THIS YEAR!”
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
The small-sample UZR doesn’t mean much, but it looks to me like he’s finally starting to scout opposing hitters and give some thought to positioning. One of the infuriating things about the Jeter cult is that he has long been so lazy about basic stuff like that.
I am not going to defend Derek Jeter, I realize he is 35 now, and I understand that UZR doesn’t really tell you much over the course of one season, but is it possible to improve defense through better positioning and improved training? If one can improve the rate at which they hit homeruns by improving strength, then I would think one could improve lateral movement by improving strength as well. Also, since I UZR is dependent on initial positioning, then improved positioning could be helping make Jeter a better defender. This article suggests that the Yankees recognized a problem and attempted to fix it.
I am interested in this not because of Jeter, but because it is sort of gospel that one’s defense cannot improve (especially at an advanced age), and I am curious to know if that is really true because Renteria will be our SS next year, and he is stinky.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Aug 19, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Renteria’s defense has been average, according to UZR. He has been “stinky,” but not really on defense. Hopefully his arm strength will improve when he gets the bone spurs taken care of. Obviously it would be nice if he would come into spring training in good shape, but that’s not exactly a pattern for him. I sorta have my doubts that he has the work ethic of Derek Jeter.
No that means the prophecy was right.
If he’s legit, then the prophecy was wrong.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
I wuz rong!
I like to imagine that you’re Nostradamus. But, instead of world events, you deal with clanky skinny infielders.
or Black Vulcan or whatever his name was.
Pure electricity . . . in my pants!
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Well, the breathing underwater would be handy. But, yeah, it’s not like a dolphin is going to bring you a sandwich just because you can tell it to.
Hw would bring it but it would be soggy.
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 19, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, and who the hell wants soggy sandwiches? Pass.
True story: my brother wrote for the Aquaman comic (before they cancelled it out from under him) and my nephew (his son) said something about how much DC had liked his writing. I had to point out that if they REALLY liked his writing, they would have given him a better book than Aquaman.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
Now you can look really stylish while being wrong about Uribe!
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 19, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
/bat flip
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This pic make you look kinda like Walter Matthau.
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 19, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
What’s funny is that I actually already had this lying around, which was why I was so quick with it.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
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/throws down in the alley behind MCC
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
ILL SEE YOU AT ATT PARK, LEFTY GATE! U R 5!
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Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
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actual aloud laughter.
is this the first Sphinx image on this site? Not counting Felipe Alou?
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 19, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
WOW. THIS IS AMAZING. I feel like I missed something.
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 19, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
can't stop the laughter
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I can’t see it! Somebody show me!
Also, I just got crop-dusted at work. By a pregnant lady.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Aug 19, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Denied! I will try at home. :(
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Aug 19, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I do agree that it’s harder to make out a lineup than sometimes it’s made out to be. Do you wait for a veteran to rebound to career numbers or go with a young player to perform to his minor league numbers or go with a less player who’s got the hot streak.
I also can’t help but feel that sometimes there’s a double standard and that if our veterans (and i use that term loosely as people under 30 seem to still be classified as veterans) go on a short bad streak then Bochy’s an idot for playing them but if young players or players on other teams struggle for a period then it’s only SSS or they’re going to rebound to their career numbers.
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Todays LOLineup. Not sure what to think of this
Velez 2b
Rent SS
Juggernate RF
Molina C
Winn LF
Garko 1b
Rowand CF
Uribe 3b
Zito
Rest for Panda, Nate gets the start, Velez at 2b
With malice towards the Dodgers
LOL
/watches as eight other people post the lineup as a joke
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I was going to drop a BREAKING NEWS! on Heimy but I had a moment of kindness wash over me.
I have lost my fastball.
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 19, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Nine
NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Aug 19, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Was anyone able to make an animated gif of that Reds douche falling over 1b last night?
With malice towards the Dodgers
What's real?
The Nate who was hitting .241/.262/.328/.590 at the end of May, 2 full months in?
Or the Nate who hit .375/.406/.578/.984 with 3 HR in 64 AB in June?
Or the Nate who hit .214/.250/.286/.536 with 0 HR and 16 SO in 56 AB from June 30 to July 20th? (and .186/.217/.256/.473 in 43 AB from July 4-20).
Or the Nate who hit .333/.353/.545/.898 with 1 HR (nearly 2!) in 33 AB since then?
Plus, this argument could have been made during and after the 2006 season about Winn. He went from pariah/whipping boy to beloved veteran presence and now back to pariah/whipping boy.
The way I see it, Schierholtz had a chance to hold and keep the starting position. Over a 2 week period from July 4th to 20th, he hit .186/.217/.256/.473 in 43 AB. You can’t utterly disappear like that when you are trying to win a job. Hence, while if it were up to me, Schierholtz would have been our starting RF in 2008 and 2009, I can understand why Bochy would play other players right now, particularly if they are hitting very hot, which Schierholtz has not been doing.
For Bowker, that’s life in the big leagues. As Niekro found out, you never know how big a window you are going to get to show what you can do. He blew his chance last season. Now he has to sit behind Rowand, Winn, Schierholtz, Lewis, Velez, and Torres. Rowand was hitting over .850 as recently as a month ago. Winn has been a consistently a shade under .800 OPS for his career plus one of the best RF in the majors. I like Schierholtz and he should get playing time. Lewis has produced before and looks like he can again. And Velez has been hot. As long as 3 of them are producing OK, Bowker is not even going to sniff the majors.
If Bowker were hitting better in the minors, I could maybe see him pushing to come up, but they made him a starter from July 9th to 22nd, 8 starts out of 10 games, and he hit .179/.226/.286/.512, that just shows that whatever book teams had on him, it was still working. I will admit that he was probably pressing, but with a team challenging for the playoffs, do you play him and hope he improves, or go with players like Ishikawa, who he was stealing ABs from, who had almost double this OPS since May 10th? He had a chance, he blew his chance.
There are players who come up, make the final adjustment, and justify the patience shown them, like Matt Williams. Then there are those who live on in Giants infamy for never being able to make the jump. And we all know their names…
My expectation is that in 2010, Rowand will man CF, Schierholtz RF, with Bowker, Lewis, Velez, and Garko battling for LF. I expect one of Lewis and Velez (more likely former) to be traded away as I expect the main competition to be Bowker and Garko. Bowker has one more option for next year but I expect him to compete and win the LF position, with Garko getting playing time in LF still while platooning with Ishikawa at 1B.
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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Aug 19, 2009 2:04 PM PDT reply actions
gave up reading it
after 1st paragraph ;D jk
by californianotter on Aug 19, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
The Nate who was hitting .241/.262/.328/.590 at the end of May, 2 full months in?
Or the Nate who hit .375/.406/.578/.984 with 3 HR in 64 AB in June?
Or the Nate who hit .214/.250/.286/.536 with 0 HR and 16 SO in 56 AB from June 30 to July 20th? (and .186/.217/.256/.473 in 43 AB from July 4-20).
Or the Nate who hit .333/.353/.545/.898 with 1 HR (nearly 2!) in 33 AB since then?
I don’t understand why you think micro-sample sizes tell a better story than his whole season line.
There are players who come up, make the final adjustment, and justify the patience shown them, like Matt Williams.
The same Matt Williams who hit .188/.240/.339 in 245 ABs when the Giants were fighting for a playoff spot in 1987?
My expectation is that in 2010, Rowand will man CF, Schierholtz RF, with Bowker, Lewis, Velez, and Garko battling for LF.
Ryan Garko is an outfielder like I’m a Yankees fan.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
I mean, I still can’t get around the idea of anyone wanting Garko in the OF. Have you seen him move?
Proposed new OF
Ryan Garko: LF
Bengie Molina: CF
Tommy Joseph: RF
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
But he has played LF before, therefore he can be an adequate LF
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
RANDY WINN, THIRD BASEMEN OF THE FUTURE
GITTURNDN SABEAN
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Still one of GRM’s most inspired ideas.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
Your Obviously Blinded By Your RAge To See The Logcical Explanation Behind THIs
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
the classy corner?
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
NOAH LOWRY, RIGHT FIELDER OF THE FUTURE
:D:
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
It’s even crazier to think about putting Garko in the OF since one of our MAJOR strengths is outfield defense. Why mess with it for such a small upgrade in offense? You would loss way more on defense than you would gain at the plate.
It’s seriously the worst idea, ever.
GARKO IN LF
WHEN COMPUTERS RAGE
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
You're the worst idea ever!
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
UR 4!
I’LL SEE YOU BEHIND TEH DUGOUT DNEXT GAME YOU SPAMBOT. BUT IF YOU HAVE TIME ONLY, IF NOT THEN I’LL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT IT, BUT I’M GONNA BRING MY BOYS TO YOUR PLACE
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
I'D REFORMAT YOUR FACE
BUT IT CAN’T GET ANY UGLIER
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
I'm just joking buddy
We don’t have much discourse anymore, so I have to make fun of you when I can.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
I visit your site
But I’m too lazy to login usually.
And WTF is up with your FB picture?
/coming from the guy who has the sky as his FB picture
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
But he has played LF before, therefore he can be an adequate LF
Thus, our new lineup!!!!:
1) Eugenio Velez 2B
2) Randy Winn 3B
3) Noah Lowry LF
4) Barry Bonds CF
5) Pablo Sandoval C
6) Buster Posey SS
7)
8)
9) Mike McBryde P
I couldn’t think of a 1B or RF for this, sorry. :(
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
He can also be our pitcher if you prefer.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
1b = lemonade guy from scottsdale
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
doesn’t he look like he could hit dingerz?
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
For RF
J.T. Snow. At one point when he was a prospect the Yankees were considering turning him into an outfielder.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
1b anyone
Because if JT teaches them, anyone can play first!
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Bengie will teach them to scoop ice cream!
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 19, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Good call
On another announcer-related note, we could go with F.P. Santangelo.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
on another side note, F.P. went to my high school and after his stint with the Giants, he came to a practice and I played catch with him
by The Franchise on Aug 19, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
on another side note, F.P. went to my high school and after his stint with the Giants, he came to a practice andI played catch with himhe gave me a used ’roid needle.
Nate for First!!!
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
I'm a Velez optimist for now
I wouldn’t mind more of the same at the top of the order.
But then i’d readily admit that i still harbor hope of starter-caliber careers for the following:
Schierholz
Bowker
Lewis
Burriss
Frandsen (probably because i keep confusing him with Robby Thompson)
Lowry
Bill Hall Haters Rejoice!
According to the Seattle Times’ Geoff Baker, the Mariners have acquired Bill Hall from the Brewers. There’s an announcement expected before game time. According to Baker’s sources, the Brewers will receive minor-league pitcher Ruben Flores in return.
THANK YOU LORD
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
phew
I actually like Bill Hall, he just doesn’t have a place on this team.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
A Hannahan/Hall platoon could be decent-good
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
banned
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
BANNED FOR EVEN SUGGESTING THAT IN SOME HORRIBLE ALTERNATE REALITY IT COULD HAVE HAPPENED
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
ABUSE OF POWER
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
I hope xeifrank is discussing the latest MCC Mod powertrip on True Blue LA.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
I’m amused at his perceptions of how often people get banned here. I can only think of like three people who’ve been banned the last 2+ years. I’m sure there are more, but…c
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
sign posey
mannybeatsfranny
asfan4ever
Those are all pretty recent though, and I know there were others before.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
they really did ban assmanforever?
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
sign posey was last year. He actually got banned twice on the same day.
I think I missed mannybeatsfranny’s banning, sadly.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
gornyson
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
Which one was he?
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
Called Grant an idiot, insulted jponry (I think). I think he finally got banned for being a dick to tk after she asked him to stop wrtng like hes txtng.
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
I missed that one.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
well, I mean, I missed him getting banned.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
lol I searched for his comments
and I guess he once called me “doucehpon” and he really really really wanted to trade Lincecum.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
oh maybe that wasn’t me. still. lol.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2007/12/7/132945/735#1126258
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
ah, there we go
I remember him now, he was a pretty funny troll for a little while, though his act wore thin pretty quickly
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
If Zito makes it into the 5th inning
I’ll stop honoring all my treaties.
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 19, 2009 4:01 PM PDT reply actions
Snack!
I am having a bowl of eggs, chopped potato and bacon all mixed together with a splash of salsa.
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 19, 2009 4:05 PM PDT reply actions
sounds cholesteroly
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
WELL, YOU SHOULDN’T HAVE POSTED YOUR BLINGED OUT PICTURE!
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 19, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
hot and cold post
I was reading the post and the post was hot and right-on, then it became cold, boring and uninteresting, then it became hot and interesting again, but it cooled off before it sparked some more interest. The post reflected how Velez, Winn, and other giants players have been. Do I read the entire post because some of it was hot, and the cold spots would wear away and it would get interesting again? How does one decide what to read? Was the post hot when typed with the left hand, but cold when typed with the right? What is wrong and what is right? Sample size was just too small.
Any way if we would have beaten the bums just one more game
we would only be 2.5 games back instead of 4.5 games. darnit.
We lost one game in a game we lost. If we had won, we would have gained a game. So that’s a two game difference.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
i figured that out after I posted
I R 5
by say hey nation on Aug 21, 2009 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Anyone catch that quiz on the telecast?
—which radio announcers broadcast for both the Giants (SF only?) and the Reds? Al Michaels is one; anyone know the other?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
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