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David Wright, Matt Cain, and Idiots

I watch baseball because I want to be entertained. For three hours, I want to forget about the big picture to focus on something inconsequential, but I want to magnify the meaningless past the point of reason. I get really fired up about one-pitch groundouts because it beats getting really fired up about politics.

Every once and again, though, something happens in baseball that brings me back to the big picture. Well, the big picture is that the sun is slowly running out of fuel, the universe will eventually collapse upon itself, and everyone you know will someday die. But, cripes, I’m not that morbid. No, I’m talking about Matt Cain and David Wright. The story, as simply as it can be told:

Matt Cain, in a tie game, with an 0-2 count, tried to throw a pitch above the strike zone. He missed and hit David Wright in the head.

Cain was pretty upset. He walked immediately toward the plate – something you almost never see after a batter gets hit. Cain crouched down, watched the motionless Wright slowly start to stir, and eventually went over to talk with the MetsBrian Schneider.

The big picture part of this isn’t that people get hurt playing sports. We all kind of get that, and when it happens, all we can do is wish for a speedy recovery for someone like David Wright. No, what jolted me out of my sportscentric fog was my unfortunate fascination with the reaction to the injury.

Note: Though the rest of this post deals with the reactions of Mets fans, I’m fully aware that if the situation were reversed, the only thing that would change would be the affiliation of the people making the comments. This isn’t a post suggesting that Met fans are morons. This is a post suggesting that people are morons.

Star-divide

My new theory: Everything in the world can be described in terms of a "pyramid of stupid." At the top of the pyramid – the point – you’ll find the logical folks. The people who can reconcile the random events of life with a mind designed to attribute blame.

Man, that was awful. I hope David Wright gets better

Some variation of that. Maybe, just maybe, there’s an implied hope that pitchers should be more careful when they’re going up and in, but for the most part, the top of the pyramid is for people who understand that the unfortunate event is a byproduct of the rules of the game, physics, and the fallibility of pitching motions.

I don’t care if it was intentional or not, MLB needs to send a message and suspend Cain for two starts at least

This was a popular reaction, and it’s one of my favorite illogical reactions: make up rules after you’re negatively affected. When a Mets pitcher has accidentally drilled a player in the head in the past – I don’t have a specific incident in mind, but I’m sure it’s happened – not one fan said, "We’ll miss him, but that guy needs to be suspended for the good of the game." Nope. To do so after the fact is an instinctual thirst for retribution, but it’s manifested in a civil way. There’s no thirst for blood, but there’s a thirst for bureaucratic blood. Stupid and illogical, but quite civilized. The logical extension is to suspend players wild enough to throw pitches to the backstop, or come down on hitters who make a conscious effort to drive the ball up the middle.

look, obviously it was intentional and if the mets werent such pansies they would have thrown one up at cain’s head too

It was just about the least ambiguous hit-by-pitch I’ve ever seen. The count, the score, the importance of the game to the Giants, and the lack of bad blood between Cain and Wright all made it a non-issue. Cain felt horrible, and it was obvious. Yet the overwhelming reaction was for Cain’s head. The boos are understandable – I probably would have done the same. But the people who are legitimately angry at Cain, who really think he did some intentional craven, sub-human act, are legion. They form the base of the pyramid of stupid.

So here’s the comment starter: In which direction is evolution leading us? Are the logic-fearing folks at the top growing in numbers? Is the next stage in human evolution going to value looking at an issue from every conceivable angle? Or is there some value to the base, illogical reaction from a natural selection standpoint? If humans lash out at unwanted actions without regard to context, will that allow them to stay alive longer? Is that the best way for DNA to be spread?

That batch of hypothetical questions isn’t just good for reactions to baseball-related events. It’s good for reactions to natural disasters, acts of war, or health scares. This is a freewheeling, wildly inappropriate and ill-conceived, sociological, biological, and anthropological speculation jamboree. At some point, the discussion will turn to empanadas, Rush, or Balzac. We’ll work in a few quips about Rikkert Faneyte and Damon Minor. And we’ll unlock secrets of the human mind. It should be a blast.

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Then let me do it for you: Mets fans are morons. They’re chronically miserable and looking for something/ somebody to yell at. To answer your comment starter, people just let anger override reason and logic. I really think it’s as simple as that.

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by Useful_Idiot on Aug 17, 2009 11:36 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This is so true

Praying that Tim Alderson doesn't come back to bite us

by MadBum on Aug 17, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And this coming from an admitted useful idiot! :-)

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by Goofus on Aug 17, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mets fans are useless

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by Useful_Idiot on Aug 17, 2009 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

not just anger, but other emotions as well.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 17, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're funny.

What must we know anyway?

by Natto on Aug 17, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL TROLL

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by bondslegend on Aug 17, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve known a few Mets fans in my life. One is a pretty good friend of mine, and despite the chronic ineptitude of the team, he’s not a dickhead. We get along famously because we both love minor league baseball and collecting cards.

So the ones who are jackasses just made me sad.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 17, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

“Collecting cards”. Is that what the kids are calling it nowadays?

by younghutch on Aug 17, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just came for the empanadas. Where the empanadas at?

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by can of corn on Aug 17, 2009 11:36 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Now I’m even more hungry. The first time I only saw one occurrence of “epanada.” Now I’ve seen three. I want one now.

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by WalrusMan on Aug 17, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

this is why I hate the Mets even more than I hate the Dodgers. If you lived in New York you would too.

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by rxmeister on Aug 17, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because I want an empanada?

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by WalrusMan on Aug 17, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That sounds good.

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by SoFa King Mike on Aug 17, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He hates the Dodgers, because my lunch was a Tosada Salad with Fresh Tomatoes and Avocados

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by merkin on Aug 17, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hated the Dodgers more than the Mets when I lived in New York.

Actually, Mets fans never bugged me as much as Cubs fans did when I was in Chicago, or Red Sox fans did when I lived in Massachusetts….or as much as Yankees fans bugged me when I lived in New York.

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by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yankees fans bothered me because they are dicks.

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by SoFa King Mike on Aug 17, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I too

have a certain sympathy for Mets fans. They are hapless, and they have been so for 20 years or so. Now, against that haplessness that Giants fan can feel akin to, they transform into insufferable monsters if things break their way and they do well. This is what PERMANENTLY happened to the Red Sox in 2003 when they beat the As in the LDS (although the seeds were sown as early as 1998).

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by zenbitz on Aug 17, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This feels appropriate again:

rxmeister’s comments always appear in the most random places. I wonder if he does it at home too.

Mrs. rxmeister: Hey honey, can you take out the trash?

Rxmeister: But why should Nate sit at all a couple of times a week if he’s the starting rightfielder? He’s the youngest of the outfield trio, and even though he’s a lefty, he hits lefties way better than Winn does. He’s better than Lewis both offensively and defensively, so there’s no reason at all why Lewis should get ANY starts for Nate at all, unless Nate is injured or tired, and I doubt Nate was either of those last night. Start him for Winn and Rowand when they need rest, and that’s it. Last time Lewis started, he pulled him in the SIXTH inning for defense. If you have to pull that guy for defense that early in the game, he really shouldn’t be out there in the first place.

Mrs. rxmeister: […]

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 17, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

this

THIS

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by seesdifferent on Aug 17, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

will never get old, lol.

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by jponry on Aug 17, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol totally.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 17, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

the universe will eventually collapse upon itself

The Big Crunch is a lie. The expansion of the universe will continue to happen until all objects cease to effect all other objects in the universe.

The Big Spread, as it were.

TWSS!

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 17, 2009 11:37 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

As to your comment starter..
In which direction is evolution leading us?

Census statistics have shown that higher educated people tend to have fewer children. If this trend continues (and there is nothing likely to prevent it from doing so), the direction in which evolution will take us is pretty clear.

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 17, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What are you, a Lamarckian!?

Education is an acquired trait.

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by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Education is an acquired trait.

Unfortunately, so is the knowledge that education is necessary.

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 17, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Enh

My paternal grandfather was a train mechanic from Montana who believed that education was a waste of time.

My father has a PhD from Princeton.

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by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That one example has changed my mind completely!

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 17, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fair enough

And there is a correlation between parents’ educational level and what their children go on to do. But it’s hardly 1:1, has a lot of causes besides parental attitudes, and anyway enrollment in higher education has pretty much exploded across the board in recent decades.

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by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is true

State colleges have begun to close their enrollement in recent semesters.

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by thehavenot on Aug 17, 2009 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Generalization – Exception – Pie.

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by ResDog on Aug 17, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My Father got an STD from Columbia

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by merkin on Aug 17, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

works better if I block quote it
My father has a PhD from Princeton.

My Father got an STD from Columbia

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by merkin on Aug 17, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You are correct.

Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.

by Johnny Disaster on Aug 17, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don’t even get Renteria started on STDs from Colombia

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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 17, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's nothing

I have the BMW from Germany

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by bondslegend on Aug 17, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have a feeling that your fathers eductaion isn’t Ivy League but rather “bush” league

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by say hey nation on Aug 17, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, but intelligence isn’t.

by sunnyd100 on Aug 17, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

what is intelligence?

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by say hey nation on Aug 17, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Debatable

It’s pretty clear that intelligence has both genetic and environmental influences.

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by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

and that changes as you change how you define intelligence

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by say hey nation on Aug 17, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Intelligence, as measured by IQ tests, is generally stable over one’s lifespan. There are other environmental factors that can affect intelligence, but they are more from early development, and not necessarily the choice of the individual. Things like early nutrition, breastfeeding, etc.

So, my point here is that one cannot just go out and “become intelligent” like they can “become educated.” Once you are an adolescent, you pretty much are what you are, and there isn’t a lot you can do about it. You certainly can’t just go out an “acquire” intelligence at that point.

Lastly, while it is true that there are genetic and environmental factors to intelligence, that is true for just about everything. Still, most studies indicate that the genetic factors are more important than the environmental ones.

by sunnyd100 on Aug 17, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Still, most studies indicate that the genetic factors are more important than the environmental ones.

And yet, as oldjacket pointed out, IQ scores have risen greatly in recent decades. I don’t know how you account for that except for environmental factors.

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by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

First, one has to presume the validity of IQ tests in general. Next, one has to assume that they are not being adjusted just so that more people get higher scores.

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 17, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t presume the validity of IQ tests. Quite the opposite.

I’m not sure how else you’re going to quantify intelligence, though, if we’re talking about the relative importance of nature vs. nurture. Which is one of the big problems with this whole discussion.

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by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think they’re valid enough for what they measure – abstract reasoning and pattern recognition.

The idea that they’re being adjusted upward is a little silly. The Flynn Effect (that’s what it’s called) is a major headache for the conventional wisdom in psychometrics.

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Aug 17, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

shhhhh

Once you start claiming that intelligence has genetic influences the next step is finding out that different ethnic groups might actually not all be the same. People just can’t even fathom that every group isn’t exactly the same because claiming so would just be racist.

by TimLincecumIsGod on Aug 17, 2009 2:33 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

You should also beware of a false confidence in the claim that ethnic groups have different intelligence capabilities.

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Aug 17, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ORIENTALZ R GUD AT MATH

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by jhiat00 on Aug 17, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

DUBLE THE REVENOO

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by CB30 on Aug 17, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I haven't read up on this properly

But I heard about a recent study that looked at standardized tests where there was a big gap in performance between black kids and white kids. Apparently, the study found that if, before the test, you told the kids that black students and white students perform the same on the test, the gap in results almost vanished.

That sounds so convoluted. I don’t know how to explain it better.

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by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's exactly right

it’s really weird.

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by bondslegend on Aug 17, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve been “inservice traininged” on that topic. Why I don’t know… I don’t usually give standardized tests to 5 year olds but whatever.

by Merope on Aug 17, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, it’s just that the vast majority of “studies” that concluded that one race is better than another at anything have been proven to be wrong, and in most cases driven by racism or stereotypes.

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:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 17, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh for the love of

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by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

For the record

I was very deliberate in leaving race out of this discussion. I just don’t want to be painted with this particular broad brush.

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 17, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

NORWEGIANS = CHIGLOOS!!!

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by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am going to leave race out of this, because it is too touchy, and really not worth it.

I will, however, say that I have been surprised to see how many people will not acknowledge or are freaked out by the strong role that genetics play in intelligence. People are definitely willing to recognize the fact that genetics will affect height, weight, eye color, predisposition for diseases, sexuality, and a whole list of other individual characteristics. However, when learning potential becomes part of the equation, the general public jumps to downplay the role of genetics.

I guess it is scary for people to admit that intelligence is generally out of their control, and people are generally invested in believing that every child has the potential to be a Nobel Prize Winner, if they really put their mind to it.

by sunnyd100 on Aug 17, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can’t really leave race out of it. As long as IQ tests are being used for pre-employment testing in some form, this will be a racially charged issue. (Not to mention that, as long as the Steve Sailers of the world are out there, it certainly will be).

While you are certainly right that some people dismiss this issue out of political-based fears, you should be aware that:
A) Those fears are certainly well founded.
B) Many of the critics of IQ heritability are not just being dismissive but are actually quite up on either the modern state of genetics or psychometrics.

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Aug 18, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahh, you’ve seen Idiocracy too!

by younghutch on Aug 17, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

For those that haven't

The opening sequence will tell you everything you need to know for this discussion

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by j14 on Aug 17, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

love it

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by delorean on Aug 17, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reminds me of two books:
What is Intelligence? by James Flynn – about the puzzle of increasing IQs
Everything Bad is Good for You by Steven Johnson – defends the theory that whatever its faults pop culture is not making people dumber.

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Aug 17, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I own that hat.

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In Soviet Union, that hat owns you!

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by EliminateMe on Aug 17, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if Mike Judge ever read the classic science fiction story “The Marching Morons.” Idiocracy seems awfully derivative of it from what I’ve heard of the film.

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by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You should watch it

it’s pretty good

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by bondslegend on Aug 17, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I generally like Mike Judge's stuff

But it seems like its premise is pretty much rooted in the ideas of eugenics, and thus would only serve to piss me off.

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by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm well I didn't get that from it

but I’m not as “top of the pyramid”-thinking as most. I didn’t even know what eugenics was until I googled it lol.

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by bondslegend on Aug 17, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh. I don’t think there’s a genetic or racial theory behind idiocracy. I know a guy who works for Mike Judge, that wouldn’t really fit with him, politically.

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Aug 17, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eugenics is probably the wrong term

Maybe Social Darwinism. The notion that society is decaying/will decay because the wrong people are breeding out of control.

But like I said, I haven’t seen the movie, so I’m hardly qualified to judge.

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by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

PLANNED PARENTHOOD FOR EUGENICS!!!

I R 5

by say hey nation on Aug 17, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great new sig and picture!

by goGSW24 on Aug 17, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eugenics is the theory that Eugenio Velez will become an all-star MLB player. It’s not practiced by many.

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by ResDog on Aug 17, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

i m uzin dat one

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by merkin on Aug 17, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

actual irl lol

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by delorean on Aug 17, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The satire wasn’t about some future breakdown of our culture. It was about our current culture, and the stupid-people-in-the-future premise was the way to deliver that satire.

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by groug on Aug 17, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aha

Like I said, I’m just going off of the opening sequence posted above, and a few other random things I’ve heard. So.

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by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Take on me…..

by paboperfecto on Aug 17, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too bad you didn't take a ride on the Time Masheen

You would have loved that whirl.

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by pookeyguru on Aug 17, 2009 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think of the film’s premise as a kind of Troutian devise to poke fun at contemporary society exaggerated almost beyond recognition.

Or like Groug said above.

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by kennv on Aug 17, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Groug is exaggerated almost beyond recognition!

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 17, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is true

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by groug on Aug 17, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Idiocracy is a pretty good joke, but a so-so movie.

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Aug 17, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Such a great movie

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by bondslegend on Aug 17, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s always been the case. That isn’t a trend.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Aug 17, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Study Case:

My family:
Higher than High School education (Cousins and Uncles): 1 (me)
High school education: 24 (~ are completly stoopid)

Children: 36
Me:0

I R 5

by say hey nation on Aug 17, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Easy. Require all idiots to acquire at least an undergrad education.

by khenderson on Aug 17, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

and yet

every few years IQ tests have to be re-normed because average IQs keep getting higher. By the standards used on today’s tests, the average resident of the U.S. 80 years ago would be judged to be mentally retarded.

I think there are powerful cultural (and labor market) forces that propel people to value and improve upon the kinds of abstract reasoning that IQ tests measure.

What we’re seeing here is something we are all guilty of at one point or another: emotional attachment often overwhelms the ability to reason clearly.

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Aug 17, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually

last week’s Economist reported interesting research that suggests strongly that there’s a J-shaped curve… once societies get affluent enough they begin reproducing again. It was pretty interesting.

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

There's 3 ways to do something: the right way, the wrong way, and the Max Power/ Ginats Way...

by natteringnabob on Aug 17, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The “Big Spread” sounds like a lot better way to go then the “Big Crunch” but hey, that’s just the way I like things…

by nofreetime on Aug 17, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What if

it was between a “Big Deviled Ham Spread” and a “Big Nestle Crunch”?

by iammclovin on Aug 17, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha

It was just fun to imagine a Giant Nestle Crunch with rice puffs the size of baseballs.

by iammclovin on Aug 17, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Robert Frost weighed in on this.

Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I’ve tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice.
/blockquote>

Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 17, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That messed up end blockquote tag was a particularly poetic touch.

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by groug on Aug 17, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was the long-lost original manuscript.

Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 17, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You did that on purpose.

by younghutch on Aug 17, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I assure you that I did nothing to impact celestial mechanics!

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 17, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have not heard this before.

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by WalrusMan on Aug 17, 2009 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Big Spread is probably a lie as well. The truth of the matter is that the ultimate fate of the universe is probably more connected to it’s shape rather than it’s current motion.

It is accelerating though. Even Dark Matter isn’t enough to rein it in.

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 17, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would have paid a lot more attention were it a few years ago. Now I’m just not really interested in the Universe since there’s not much that we’ll ever figure out about it as everything is so far away.

Right now I’m even more interested in a scientist’s view that the Tanguska Event was an exploding spacecraft from Mars that crashed. (NOTE: Not actually. But I just heard it on a show I’m watching.)

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by WalrusMan on Aug 17, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They must have their spacecraft factories underground! The surface is pretty well covered territory.

My favorite Tanguska theory is that a piece of anti-matter from a parallel universe jumped into this universe and thus the huge kaboom. More likely, it was just a comet that exploded before it hit the surface.

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 17, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ll tell you in about 15 minutes when I’m done watching the show. I’m guessing it has something to do with Hitler, since it was on the History channel.

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by WalrusMan on Aug 17, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

HA

“…Some kind of huge mosquito attack…”

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by WalrusMan on Aug 17, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice

The Mothra Theory!

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 17, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m guessing it has something to do with Hitler, since it was on the History channel.

Not anymore! Now it was the crash caused by the carelessness of an ice road trucker!

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by groug on Aug 17, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mets fans are just pissed because all their best players are dropping like flies and want to blame it on something.

Matt Cain Be Damned.

/tips cap

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by SoFa King Mike on Aug 17, 2009 11:40 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree with Grant, if the shoe was on the other foot and it was Pablo that got hit at home in the head, the reaction from Giants fans would have been the same.

by nofreetime on Aug 17, 2009 11:42 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe Bruce Jenkins could’ve written an article about how the guy who hit Pablo should be suspended to send a message. At least that wouldn’t be any more stupid or tiresome than his latest OMG FRED LEWIS HARMS CHILDREN article.

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by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hitting somebody in the fat, without velocity

is really a different thing from beaning someone. Let’s not start the “we’re the victims” stuff. Really.

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by seesdifferent on Aug 17, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This has what to do with my comment?

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by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or the comment I was responding to?

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by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

psssst: don’t feed the trolls.

by Merope on Aug 17, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL TROLL

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by bondslegend on Aug 17, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Srsly

why has a mod not swung the banhammer yet? Haven’t noticed this guy contribute positively to any discussion

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by bondslegend on Aug 17, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
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by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

“shit disturber” is the word we used on another site. Just posting to rile people up.

by Merope on Aug 17, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh

I don’t know about banning someone for disagreeing with the grougthink, even if he is annoying

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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 17, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, you just want your first time to be special, like a mannybeatsfranny.

We can get kenshin to do it here.

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by groug on Aug 17, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I want to be the next person to ban xeifrank!

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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 17, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great, now he’s going to be complaining on True Blue LA that he got banned again.

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by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

if

If it had been by any of the numerous teams who have intentionally tried to bean Pablo, then I’d agree. But if I had seen someone like Johan Santana react the way Cain did, I think I’d appreciate his clear display of sympathy somewhat infused with remorse

by coicoy on Aug 17, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because you are as Grant put it at the “top of the pyramid”, however, I don’t think most Giants’ fans would be as thoughtful.

by nofreetime on Aug 17, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree, to an extent

If by “Giants fans” you mean the people here at McC, then I posit that you are wrong. This place has a lot of pretty smart folks.

If by “Giants fans” you mean the fanbase-at-large, well, I suppose there’s a good chance you are correct.

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by hairball on Aug 17, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, sorry, I would put most MCC posters in the “top of the pyramid” camp. I’m talking more about the sfgiants.com crowd.

by nofreetime on Aug 17, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oops, I meant sfgate.com, maybe a freudian slip…

by nofreetime on Aug 17, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

sometimes I wonder if people ask for punishments the way a kid might ask for a present. The kid might not expect a real car, but if he asks for one, that top-of-the-line remote control car he really wanted is going to look cheap in comparison.

by coicoy on Aug 17, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In that case, I would also agree. Personally, if it happened to Pablo, I would be pissed at the bad luck, mad at the pitcher (not personally, just because he happened to throw it), but there’s no way I would call for some kind of suspension, or say that it was purposeful, and I think most people here would be fairly reasonable too.

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by raisingcain on Aug 17, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not me. I’m hiding down here at the bottom with all of the easy women.

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by ResDog on Aug 17, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

*high five*

/belch
//fart
///dick joke

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by bondslegend on Aug 17, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too.

I’m neither David Wright nor Matt Cain, so I figure that means I’m among the idiots.

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by Goofus on Aug 17, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno – When Hoffman drilled Robby Thompson in the head (putting him out for the crucial stretch run) I was sad and angry & I resented Hoffman for years.

But it never occurred to me to root for a similar retaliation to the head.

by younghutch on Aug 17, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought he hit him in the pre-season.

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by Goofus on Aug 17, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is "pre-season" some new slang for the male junk?

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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 17, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe you’re thinking of Randy Johnson hitting J.T.?

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by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it was a late season game. As someone mentioned when I bought this up, Brenly was really pissed when it happened and it was the end of the Bob Brenly show.

by SFGuy on Aug 17, 2009 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah.

Take a look at our reaction to Mike Cameron when he hit a line drive at Joe M.F. Martinez. Sure it’s a little different but to see his reaction (which I’m guessing was like Cain’s) you can’t help but feel bad for the guy.

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by WalrusMan on Aug 17, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well yeah, but I don’t think it’s even possible to do that intentionally.

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by groug on Aug 17, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mark Grace, Idiot

Immediately after the beaning: “Purely accidental, he’s not that kind of a pitcher or that kind of a guy.”

After Cain facetiously tips his cap to the booing crowd as he walks off the mound: “He’s showing no concern for the well-being of David Wright.” … or something to that effect.

I guess that puts Gracie somewhere in the middle of the pyramid.

by BobSacamano on Aug 17, 2009 11:44 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

the little impression of Mark Grace I have from other incidents confirms this assessment

by coicoy on Aug 17, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he said “Well he’s showing us that he really doesn’t care about what he did to david wright” or something like that.

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by raisingcain on Aug 17, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Met announcer said he was “shoveling dirt on David Wright” when he tipped his cap, like Wright was dead or something. Believe me, the Mets are angry over the tipping the cap incident, not the beaning. I heard a sports radio guy say he was in the locker room and they are going to “get” Matt Cain next year when they play the Giants.

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by rxmeister on Aug 17, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's not even why he was tipping his cap

fucking idiots.

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by bondslegend on Aug 17, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm guessing this is the game he tipped his hat to the owners?

I haven’t watched the games for a few days, but I would have tried to keep that a little more low key.

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by WalrusMan on Aug 17, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

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by bondslegend on Aug 17, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I missed the cap tipping, can someone explain it?

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on Aug 17, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cain tipped his hat behind the Giants dugout, where the Giants owners were sitting. Mets fans took this a different way.

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by WalrusMan on Aug 17, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cain didn’t help himself any by coming out and saying that he was just “adjusting his cap.”

by Merope on Aug 17, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cain was NOT tipping his cap to the Giants’ owners, that was the Giants’ spin on it. They showed it a dozen times on the Mets’ broadcast yesterday. He was clearly not looking anywhere near the Giants’ dugout. As Merope pointed out, if that’s what he was doing he would have said so after the game. He said he was “adjusting his cap” when clearly he wasn’t doing that either. However, even then, his actions had nothing to do with Wright, it had to do with the fans booing him.

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by rxmeister on Aug 17, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In his mind:

“Yeah, yeah, f*ck you, too.”

/Coming to America

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Aug 17, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

wait wait wait

Cainer came out?!? This is so exciting!

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 17, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

DA CHICK FLIX WER A CLUE!!!1

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by SoFa King Mike on Aug 17, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I frankly don't believe that story.

I saw it and I thought it was clearly directed at the fans, regardless of what Grace said.

Wir müssen wissen — wir werden wissen!

by seesdifferent on Aug 17, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You’re like the anti-groupthink

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by CB30 on Aug 17, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s like he sees things differently or something.

by Natto on Aug 17, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

…and we must know.

by younghutch on Aug 17, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL TROLL

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by bondslegend on Aug 17, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They better not try anything, or Edgar fucking Renteria is going to go after them. Be warned.

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by raisingcain on Aug 17, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank god we got him locked up for 2 years. It’s suddenly looking like the BEST DEAL EVER!!!!1

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by can of corn on Aug 17, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They signed him as an enforcer, right?

Too bad Jody Shelley wasn’t available…

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by EliminateMe on Aug 17, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Should have photoshopped an SF Giants shirt.

by SFGuy on Aug 17, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, you can have him. Sharks have Brad Staubitz now…

Apologies for posting this video again. It just makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

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by mymclife on Aug 17, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I remember watching that – it was CAH-rayzee

by Merope on Aug 17, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Apparently, he got calls from guys around the league thanking him. If that isn’t awesome, I don’t know what is.

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by mymclife on Aug 17, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I bet that dude was a doosh. Sometimes when I have kids in my class who are bullies, I’m tempted to go find a big ole 6th grader to kind of give a little of it back.

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by Merope on Aug 17, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jordin Tootoo = whiny little pest/agitator/scum of the earth. Dishes out dirty hits on a regular basis.So, yeah, douche.

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by mymclife on Aug 17, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is tits effing awesome.

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by cornball on Aug 17, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only baseball people get pissed off about stupid shit like this

by superk1ng on Aug 17, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, I think that Grant’s right in that most people are going to overreact to this sort of thing. When you watch something that terrible and scary happen (and know it could have been worse. With a combination of slightly different pitch placement and luck, worst case scenario that can be a career-ender or worse.), it’s tough to just leave it there and let it go. People don’t want that to be the end of it, because it seems like “someone should do something,” and while the logical progression involves doing nothing, that’s definitely a hard thing for many fans to watch and get behind.

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by beat_la_25 on Aug 17, 2009 11:48 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

BTW, I was at the game where Edgar Gonzalez got hit

It was an awful moment, and I don’t recall anyone at any point treating the opposing pitcher, some young dude on the Rockies, with any disrespect.

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by hairball on Aug 17, 2009 11:50 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Or is there some value to the base, illogical reaction from a natural selection standpoint?

Yes. After seeing how repulsed even Mets’ fans dates were at some of their ‘friends’ reactions to the HBP, I’m sure there was a serious lack of breeding at the base of the pyramid following this game.

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by BruteSentiment on Aug 17, 2009 11:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

On a more serious note...

When Molina got hit, I immeadiately got up and called for Johan to be ejected. Not suspended, ejected. And I was very upset when he wasn’t.

Does this qualify for the second level, or not? I think he should’ve been due to the warnings that were issued and that Santana obviously intentionally went after Sandoval. I had no problem with that; Santana handled that throw how you should, short of not hitting the guy. And he threw at the Giants’ best hitter, again, within the ‘unwritten rules’. But going after a second guy, even if unintentionally, is excessive, especially after the warning.

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by BruteSentiment on Aug 17, 2009 11:56 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think Johan felt he had to hit a guy after what happened to Wright. He missed on Pablo & hit on Bengie. The ‘unwritten rules’ would be a lot more clear if they were written.

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by ResDog on Aug 17, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Both benches had been warned. Santana should’ve been tossed, end of story.

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by delorean on Aug 17, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This

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by marcello on Aug 17, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You’re right, but I actually agreed with the umps decision not to toss him. Only because (a) Bengie wasn’t seriously hurt and (b) if Johan gets tossed, I think the scene gets ugly.

by iammclovin on Aug 17, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Both are poor reasons. To require that a batter be seriously hurt before ejecting a pitcher that has been warned about throwing at a guy is just dumb. Each intentionally hit batsman has the potential for injury – just because the pitcher doesn’t succeed in hurting a guy shouldn’t determine whether he receives the promised consequences. And to avoid an ejection because of fear of an ugly scene makes rule meaningless. It’s like if I let my preschooler get away with breaking the rules because I’m afraid of a tantrum.

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by can of corn on Aug 17, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup.
If you say you are going to do something you need to be consistent, follow through, and do it.
So the next time that ump warns both benches, how seriously is he taken?
“Well…….. if I make it look accidental enough I’ll get away with it.

by Merope on Aug 17, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well we’ve had times where a Giants pitcher has been thrown out for hitting a batter and we thought it was accidental. But since the warning was out he had to be ejected. I’d rather it be a judgment call, or no call at all. There’s just no way to tell for certain though.

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by WalrusMan on Aug 17, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My theory stays the same. Santana had a chance to hit Cain earlier and he didn’t do it. He went after Sandoval because he was on his way to a loss and the Giants were smacking him around. And when Sandoval hit the HR afterwards, he was even angrier and he threw at Molina as well and this time he made sure he didn’t miss.

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by rxmeister on Aug 17, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And he should have been tossed for it.

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by can of corn on Aug 17, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let me get this straight , because I didn't see the game.

Santana goes along with the “rules” and throws at team’s best hitter (I read a quote somewhere by some ballplayer so yeah , I guess that’s the m.o.)

Best hitter homered…fucking lol at that!

So Johan threw at the next batter? And wasn’t suspended.

The “Umpire Idiocy” period continues…

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by victor frankenstein on Aug 17, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Everyone agrees Santana was throwing at Sandoval. A lot of people don’t think he was throwing at Molina.

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by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, and he threw behind Sandoval – he didn’t actually get him. After the warning, when he hit Molina, he should have been tossed. I can’t see how that could be construed as “accidental.”

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by can of corn on Aug 17, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It hit Bengies elbow and if IIRC his elbow was away from his torso and Bengie kinda turned into it w/ his swing/avoidance technique (he is very quick)

I R 5

by say hey nation on Aug 17, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I didn’t think he was throwing at Molina. The ball just wasn’t that far inside. Maybe he’s good enough to hit somebody by throwing a ball right over the chalk, but I was fine with him not getting tossed.

by taliesin on Aug 17, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it would be pretty ironic

if Cain takes out David Wright, the Mets best player and Santana takes out… Bengie Molina?

That’s what I call doing us a solid.

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by zenbitz on Aug 17, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 17, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Giants players & fans after the Sandoval at-bat: "C’mon Santana, you big pussy – is that all you’ve got? "

Molina (approaching the plate): “Uhhh, shut up.”

by younghutch on Aug 17, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

[Santana throws pitch and it doesn’t bounce off]

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 17, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well put, and I agree, at the time my first thought was he’s deservedly going to be tossed.

Once he wasn’t, I kind of rationalized it by imagining an uglier scene then one person having a tantrum. (Though I know first hand the havoc a pre-schooler’s tantrum can wreak.)

Maybe I’m giving the ump too much credit.

by iammclovin on Aug 17, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely right.

by TheLetter2 on Aug 17, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

this x 10000000000

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 17, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I too stood up demanding ejection.

But obviously I only saw it live, as New Shea wisely refrained from fanning the flames. When I saw the replay later I got the impression the Santana had just lost his location. Obviously Jerry Manuel thought so.

I mean, how petty does it look to drill Molina after giving it up to Panda? According to the unwritten rules, Johan had to drill one guy for Wright, and another for Panda’s HR. So he’s still in the red. He’d have to become a drilling machine (GIS NSFW) just to get back to even.

And I have a higher opinion of Johan than I do of Vicente Padilla.

(PS off-topic: Padilla Flotilla? WTF? Never got that one.)

Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 17, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The knowledge pyramid metaphor makes me sad for humanity, because it is so true.

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Aug 17, 2009 11:57 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

not really

It’s more like a knowledge bell curve, it’s just that the low end of the curve is really loud.

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by Viliphied on Aug 17, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Say it ain’t so, hey nation!

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by groug on Aug 17, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

She should have a doctor check that out, tics like that can be a symptom of something much more serious. Just sayin is all…

by Merope on Aug 17, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

YOU BETCHA!!!

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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 17, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In General

people overreact to sports.
that athletes are [among] the most highly rewarded workers in our economy proves we have lost our rational minds over sports.

"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"

by The Gene Hackman on Aug 17, 2009 11:58 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe, but it my opinion it is way better than the other major entertainment outlets such as obsessing over who is going to get kicked off the island or out of the house.

by nofreetime on Aug 17, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am the Edmund Hillary to your pyramid

I R 5

by say hey nation on Aug 17, 2009 12:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

So, you’d be at the bottom of not for Tenzing Norgay?

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Dammit, I was going to make a Norgay crack.

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by WalrusMan on Aug 17, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Most underrated Cohen brothers film.

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Aug 17, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm going to allow it.

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by zenbitz on Aug 17, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In this example, I’d like to think that the top of the pyramid is getting taller but skinnier, while the bottom gets lower and wider.

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by WalrusMan on Aug 17, 2009 12:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Mmmmmm.... wide bottoms

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Aug 17, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The bigger the cushion the sweeter the pushin’

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by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Talk about mudflaps…

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Aug 17, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

the looser the waistban

the deeper the quicksand

"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"

by The Gene Hackman on Aug 17, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How could I leave this behind?

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by EliminateMe on Aug 17, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

my baby fits me like a flesh tuxedo-i´d like to sink her with my pink torpedo

by Mrbasepaul on Aug 17, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s what I said that night in Vegas

by jctGamer on Aug 17, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah.

And what’s that about Rush?

Also of note though, since I’ve got internet back I’ve been downloading live shows again and right now I’ve got Santana, Moody Blues, ZZ Top, and the Eagles going right now. No Rush, no Led Zeppelin, no Pink Floyd, no Beatles.

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by WalrusMan on Aug 17, 2009 12:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Eagles

Oh, man. Time for an intervention.

by Grant on Aug 17, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do not judge the Walrus

He has a peaceful easy feeling.

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 17, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fact: the Eagles are far, far worse than Rush.

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by oldjacket on Aug 17, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

YOU TAKE THAT BACK

I R 5

by say hey nation on Aug 17, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

/sings “Dirty Laundry”

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by oldjacket on Aug 17, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

/sings “Take it Easy”

I R 5

by say hey nation on Aug 17, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

“Desperado, why don’t you come to your senses…”

El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."

by ResDog on Aug 17, 2009 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good song, no matter what you say.

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by WalrusMan on Aug 17, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

JERRY: Desperado?

ELAINE: Uh huh.

JERRY: And you’re still dating him? I tell you who sounds a little desperado.

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by seesdifferent on Aug 17, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dirty Laundry is not an Eagles song.

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by WalrusMan on Aug 17, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

don henley

is not the eagles

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by The Gene Hackman on Aug 17, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not as good as, true. But not bad. I really like their old stuff.

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by can of corn on Aug 17, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hotel California

the nadir
Joe Walsh was a great addition.

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by victor frankenstein on Aug 17, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, there are worse bands than Rush?

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by WalrusMan on Aug 17, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hootie & the Blowfish
Creed
Limp Bizkit

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by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

YES
JESUS H CHRIST YES
YES

I R 5

by say hey nation on Aug 17, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Holy god Creed is awful.

Joe Martinez: You are cool.
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by cornball on Aug 17, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

so really what’s the beef with the Eagles?

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by WalrusMan on Aug 17, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kinda bland.

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by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can see that. I’m kinda meh on them. Can’t say I hate them. I hate Rush. The vocals give me the same effect as dragging fingernails across a chalkboard. Pretty much the reason I can’t stand listening to Smashing Pumpkins and No Doubt.

by CrispinGloversBalls on Aug 17, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

they suck

Hotel California is the most overplayed song ever

they suck

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by oldjacket on Aug 17, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

You always hear about Freebird being overplayed, but I feel like I’ve heard Sweet Home Alabama like ten times more than I’ve heard Freebird.

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by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Freebird

IS TEH AWSOME!!!!!

It’s not mocked because it’s overplayed, it’s mocked because it ends with a 6.5 MINUTE jam session. It’s just redonkulous.

Redonkulously AWESOME!

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by zenbitz on Aug 17, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea I don’t mind it.

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by WalrusMan on Aug 17, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Overplayed songs...

Sweet Home Alabama
Immigrant Song

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by WalrusMan on Aug 17, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Smooth- Santana
Any Sublime song

by MO-ped MO-problems on Aug 17, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is true with Smooth, but I don’t even consider it a Santana song anymore.

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by WalrusMan on Aug 17, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting point, but im not letting him off the hook that easily.

by MO-ped MO-problems on Aug 17, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Living in Seattle

I have a 25 minute commute. Between the 3 stations I listen to, I average 4 Nirvana songs a day. That’s in my 50 total minutes of driving. It’s… oh god, it’s awful

by woomikee on Aug 18, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Immigrant Song isn’t even the most overplayed Zeppelin song.

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by oldjacket on Aug 17, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Immigrant Song is the most overplayed Zeppelin song that doesn’t deserve it. The only other Zeppelin song I can put in that category is All My Love.

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by WalrusMan on Aug 17, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lately, I have been hearing Ramble On way too much.

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 17, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good song.

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by WalrusMan on Aug 17, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just finished another beach run with Vic Jr...

…who is jumping headfirst into the Beatles and Zeppelin.
He’s a percussion student , and politely played Levee only once.

What blew my mind was when he played Achilles’ Last Stand , a song that in 40 years of Zeppelin consciousness I had never previously heard.

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by victor frankenstein on Aug 17, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

For real? ALS is probably one of the most popular semi-obscure Zeppelin songs amongst young people getting into the band.

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by jponry on Aug 17, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Read this as

“young people getting into bed” for some reason.

Probably because I am a Hawaiian organ donor.

by iammclovin on Aug 17, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Levee is such an awesome song.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 17, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ALS is definitely a great one. Lemmee send you a ripped file for the kid to listen to, the live versions of ALS had even more powerful drums.

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by WalrusMan on Aug 18, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

how is Immigrant Song

more over played than FREAKIN’ STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN

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by zenbitz on Aug 17, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stairway deserves being played a lot, and is played more than that.

Immigrant Song doesn’t really deserve half the play it gets if you ask me.

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by WalrusMan on Aug 18, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Immigrant Song

Is only good live.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 18, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Overplayed?

You know what’s overplayed?
The Star Spangled Banner! I never make it through a day without hearing it!

by Merope on Aug 17, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You need to change up the tune. Have your students rap the national anthem one morning!

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 17, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hire Carl Lewis

by jctGamer on Aug 17, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There are few anthems I really remember. Carl Lewis was a major “uh-oh” and then there was the one up in …. Portland? Where the little girl freaked out, flubbed it up and the coach of one of the teams came out and helped her finish it. I would guess he made a friend for life with that class move. (Oh, and he wasn’t exactly Pavarotti, so he really stepped up!)

by Merope on Aug 17, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The look on her face when she said “Thank you” to him when they were finished was priceless.

by younghutch on Aug 17, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In case people were wondering, this anthem.

by Merope on Aug 17, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s not just classy, that’s Randy Winn classy.

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Mo Cheeks = pure class

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by bondslegend on Aug 17, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is actually true.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 17, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Get the fuck out of my cab man!

by MO-ped MO-problems on Aug 17, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

                                     DUDE
                         —had a rough night, and I hate the
                         fucking Eagles, man—

                                     DRIVER
                         That’s it! Outta this fucking cab!

Wir müssen wissen — wir werden wissen!

by seesdifferent on Aug 17, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

YES MOODY BLUES!!!

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 17, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

11-23-1978

CD1
01 Steppin’ In A Slide Zone
02 Tuesday Afternoon
03 Twilight Time
04 The Day We Meet Again
05 The Story In Your Eyes
06 I’m Your Man
07 Top Rank Suite
08 Isn’t Life Strange

CD2
01 Driftwood
02 I’ll Be Level With You
03 Gypsy
04 Survival
05 The Balance
06 I’m Just A Singer (In A Rock And Roll Band)
07 Nights In White Satin
08 Legend Of A Mind
09 E1: Question
10 E2: Ride My See-Saw

Looking forward to listening, but I’ve got a lot to listen to before it

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by WalrusMan on Aug 17, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ooh, a bootleg, nice.

For some reason, I’ve never gotten around to downloading anything like that from them.

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by jponry on Aug 17, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve been listening to mostly bootlegs for a year and a half. Up to about 250 GB on my external and probably 150 GB on my laptop.

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by WalrusMan on Aug 17, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

I’ve got something like 4-5 GB of Nick Cave bootlegs on my computer and I thought that was a lot!

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by jponry on Aug 17, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Everything I’ve got is in FLAC format too, anywhere from 500kbps to 1000kbps so it takes up a bit more space. I see Nick Cave come up every so often on Dime A Dozen if you want to check it out.

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by WalrusMan on Aug 18, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, where are the bloopers?

I CAME HERE FOR THE BLOOPERS!!!

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by bondslegend on Aug 17, 2009 12:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

lol twitter-followin’ fool

by Grant on Aug 17, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'M POOPIN

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by bondslegend on Aug 17, 2009 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nerd out

with a turd out?

by iammclovin on Aug 17, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, man....

http://metslifers.blogspot.com/2009/08/matt-cain-is-really-good-pitching-punk.html

Here’s the answer to HatTipGate: Matt Cain is kind of a smartass. When a smartass gets booed by 30,000 people, a smartass reaction might be to doff your cap. And that’s if you ignore the plausible explanation that he was tipping his cap to the owners. It had nothing to do with David Wright.

It had nothing to do with David Wright.

It had nothing to do with David Wright.

Damn.

by Grant on Aug 17, 2009 12:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ha, that's almost as good as this I found.

http://basebaltalk.blogspot.com/2009/08/david-wright-hit-by-matt-cain.html

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by WalrusMan on Aug 17, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

/fooled

damn you

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by bondslegend on Aug 17, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks!

I LOVE Rush. That’s a great song too.

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by bigboneded on Aug 17, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

rushrolled?

I wanted to adopt, but all the good looking babies were taken

by joeytothelimit on Aug 17, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You must be new.

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by WalrusMan on Aug 18, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just saw that on BBTF. It’s like the online version of a bad sports radio caller.

by xanthan on Aug 17, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plausible...

…if David Wright had never happened.

So , Cain’s a smartass , eh?

/Moves Matt Cain up five spots on the Christmas card list

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by victor frankenstein on Aug 17, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OT:

Tigers apparently acquire Aubrey Huff for Brett Jacobson.

by ryanmiles on Aug 17, 2009 1:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

OMG SABEZ HE HAD 100 RIBBIES LAST YEAR GET OFF UR HANZ

by Natto on Aug 17, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

HOW DARE ANYONE SUGGEST HE’S NOT AS GOOD AS HE WAS LAST YEAR AND NOT COMPLETELY REDUNDANT ON THIS YEAR’S GIANTS TEAM

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by jponry on Aug 17, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

HE DISRESPECTED YANKEES DID FIST PUMP AT JOBA!!!!!

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
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by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

HE WAS A GIFT FROM OUR CREATOR!!!!!!!!!!!! WE REFUSED HIM!!!!!!!!!! WE WILL BE SCORNED!!!!!!!!!!

I R 5

by say hey nation on Aug 17, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No girls' names on my team

Eli is as close as I want

Wir müssen wissen — wir werden wissen!

by seesdifferent on Aug 17, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lineup

Ew?

LF Velez
2B Sanchez
3B Sandoval
C Molina
1B Garko
RF Winn
CF Rowand
SS Renteria
P Martinez

From Baggs

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by giants9107 on Aug 17, 2009 1:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll take it!

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by WalrusMan on Aug 17, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well thank god we don’t have to worry about defense in left field anymore!!!!!

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by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn’t someone say that Bochy said Schierholtz would be starting every day from here on out? Sigh

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by jponry on Aug 17, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But Winn hit that double yesterday! And Velez is magical.

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by giants9107 on Aug 17, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He also said Bowker would be playing every day when he came up. That lasted like three days.

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by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

On Baggs' blog
Does this mean Winn should play at the expense of Nate Schierholtz? No, absolutely not. Schierholtz needs to be in there every day, and Bruce Bochy said today that he intends to play him regularly against both left-handers and right-handers.

We’ll see how long Bochy faithfully gives at-bats to Velez, though. It looked like the Eugenioic magic was starting to wear off before he got on base three times Sunday.

by Natto on Aug 17, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

le sigh

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by jponry on Aug 17, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

regularly is ambigious

it could mean every tuesday.

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by zenbitz on Aug 17, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I read this as “regularity is amibiquous”…so the “every Tuesday” part really caught my attention.

by younghutch on Aug 17, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of Baggs, he’s due to be on KNBR any minute now.

by Merope on Aug 17, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can we have Ishikawa get his starts vs. RHP on days when the guy who gets groundballs is pitching?

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Aug 17, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can we? Yes. Will we? No.

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by ResDog on Aug 17, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Winn, again?

Someone help me out here – wasn’t there a guy last year that played like shit, and Bochy kept saying he was going to sit him for a while, and instead he played even more?

Sounds like the Winn situation: Bochy says, yeah I’ve talked to Winn, he’s going to sit more, Schierholtz is going to start every day, blah blah blah bork. And what do we have? Winn starting.

WHAT THE FUCK, BOCHY? WHAT THE FUCK?

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by can of corn on Aug 17, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That describes most of our lineup last year.

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by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But there was one guy in particular, I think. I just can’t remember . . .

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by can of corn on Aug 17, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

CastilLOL?

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by jponry on Aug 17, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably. . .

At least Bochy is consistent in how he talks out his ass.

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by can of corn on Aug 17, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man, the lineup feels old again.

by iammclovin on Aug 17, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does Winn really deserve to start against RHP over Lewis? He’s obviously better defensively, but the difference on offense is just huge.

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by Cookyman on Aug 17, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Even with the general lousy level of hitters the Giants have to throw out there, I think this might be the worst possible lineup (that might actually happen).

by taliesin on Aug 17, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think

 you are splitting hairs there. Tiny, Tiny hairs. It’s a bad offense and Schierholtz is hitting .293/.321/.429 which is no where near an average corner OF. It’s worst than Rowand and (shockingly) worst than Velez. It’s better than Winn, but Winn can at least play defense (+1.5 WAR)

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by zenbitz on Aug 17, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Schierholtz’s defensive numbers have been nutty. Largely from a small sample size, but to suggest he’s not a good defender is pretty laughable, IMO

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by Viliphied on Aug 17, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed. I don’t see the benefit of playing Winn/Rowand over him.

by kdl on Aug 17, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really don’t think Velez’s numbers are indicative of his future performance. He’s getting back to being Eugenio Velez: bad at everything.

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by groug on Aug 17, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Worse.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 17, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How is it worse than Rowand?

Rowand’s line is .266/.321/.425, virtually identical OPS but with a lower AVG.

As for Velez, would you put money on his numbers still being better than Schierholtz’s in another week? Your own money?

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by EliminateMe on Aug 17, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh sure the differences are small, but they’re real. And I take issue with some of your points.

Schierholtz’s season numbers are basically the same as Rowand’s, but Rowand has been absolutely horrible for about the last two months. It’s hard for me to see his June performance coming back.

Schierholtz is just about as good as Winn defensively, so I don’t see any benefit to playing Winn over him.

Velez’s numbers may be better now, but do you think that is likely to remain true for long?

There’s also Garko starting against a righty; against right-handers Garko is not really a better hitter than Trashy, but he remains a much worse defender.

Also, Renteria starting over Uribe seems sub-optimal, but maybe Renteria is enough better defensively to make up for the slightly weaker bat.

Your larger point that there’s no actual good way to rearrange the deck chairs is a perfectly valid one, however.

by taliesin on Aug 17, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah,

I’m not watching this game. YEAH JOEY! But yeah, we’re fucked.

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by bondslegend on Aug 17, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does Bochy have money on the mets or something?

by kdl on Aug 17, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I often feel like this franchise is trying to force me away, first, with the horrible hitters they have brought in. This lineup exemplifies that following this team has to be a matter of maximum possible frustration. Winn’s numbers against Livan for his career are not good, he has a career OPS of .613 against him. You simply cannot justify starting him.

by out machine on Aug 17, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I often feel like this franchise is trying to force me away,

If I weren’t working during the game, anyway, I still wouldn’t watch. What’s the point? Worst possible line up with the number 5 starter.

by kdl on Aug 17, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I watch for the lulz.

That is a lie. The Giants piss me off to no end. I watch because I love the team.

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 17, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I realized what a crap fan I sounded like right after I posted. I’m just so frustrated! I was really enjoying this season because of the play of the young guys. Watching Rowand and Winn strike out over and over and over again there are other options for their positions is making it way less fun.

by kdl on Aug 17, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I watch for Amy G's rack

With some baby wipes ready to go

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by ResDog on Aug 17, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You realize they’re going to score like 23 runs today, based off the top 3 going 12/12, with slams from garko and martinez, and Bochy will start Winn for the next year even though he went 0/12 because he was a part of it, right?

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by Viliphied on Aug 17, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

*rest of the year

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by Viliphied on Aug 17, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just to spite me, right? ;)

Honestly, though, I expect Winn and Rowand to either K or GDP in every at bat.

by kdl on Aug 17, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The base of the pyramid is stupid, and will always be stupid. It’s part of what makes them easier to manipulate. The morons will always exist, and will always try to drag the upper levels down to their level. Too often, it works, and that’s why the stupid is the biggest part of the pyramid.

Ultimately, those who can maintain any form of logical thought are the ones who will evolve, while the bottom will continue to devolve. For your light reading, this may be old now, but a lot of it is still applicable.

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Aug 17, 2009 1:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It certainly is.

/looks down at boxers

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Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Aug 17, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Hat Tip

I like to think he wasn’t tipping his hat at all, but, in fact, setting free an invisible magic dove to bring inner peace to those sensitive enough to see it.

by iammclovin on Aug 17, 2009 1:58 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I saw that dove!

Still waiting for inner peace.

Fucking dove…

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Aug 17, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Welcome to Costco

I love you

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by groug on Aug 17, 2009 2:13 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Carl’s Jr.: Fuck you, I’m eating.

by Grant on Aug 17, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

knock, knock…“Go away, ‘batin’.”

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Try our EXTRA BIG ASS TACO! Now with MORE MOLECULES!

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The best part: It isn’t a regular’s alt.

by Grant on Aug 17, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Lisa only posts from a mobile and if the regular poster never does to preserve the magic, would there really be a good way to tell?

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by groug on Aug 17, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OMG

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 17, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm at a point where I am not sure I care about the Giants this week

First the TV broke, replacement was a huge hassle even though I got a good deal on an amazing TV in the end.

Then the car slid and drifted on the highway, and replaced a bunch of shit.

Now last night 2nd computer broke and wouldn’t recognize the Hard drive. Turns out the SATA on the motherboard is busted.

Besides the refrigerator, the 3 most important things to a man broke in the same week. WTF.

by jctGamer on Aug 17, 2009 2:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

On behalf of your wife I will cough politely.

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Aug 17, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he doesn’t consider his wife a ‘thing’.

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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 17, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some of the porn can break if it’s on the computer. But how does the box of tissues break? Other than structural damage to the box itself, the tissues should be fine.

Personally I wondered why guys never thought you use baby wipes instead. They often smell good and they make the skin soft.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 17, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

too expensive for the usage rate

by jctGamer on Aug 17, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno, I use baby wipes for everything, so I’m never without them. I buy them a heck of a lot more than tissues.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 17, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

baby wipes wtf?

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 17, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

you think babywipes smell good?

ewwwwww.

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by The Gene Hackman on Aug 17, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have a nice pack of baby wipes with shea butter and vitamin E. They cover a multitude of sins, as someone who routinely spills drinks and food all over myself. They smell very nice.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 17, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shea butter

Makes me think of the stadium. That kind of grosses me out.

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 17, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

unfortunate visualization when you touch yourself

Shea Stadium’s crappy old Apple didn’t make it to Citi Field because it was so decrepit. They had to commission a new one.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 17, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Got it.

I wouldn’t have guessed since I never do that on Mondays.

by iammclovin on Aug 17, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Smelling an open sewer grate reminds me of Shea

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by SoFa King Mike on Aug 17, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Considering my current status re: baby wipes, using them in this fashion would creep me out very deeply.

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by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh, I would pick up my birth control pills and get condoms and baby wipes at the pharmacy all the time. It often got me strange looks.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 17, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They’re just jealous…

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Aug 17, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

/looks strangely at BVCE

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by ResDog on Aug 17, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Next time, grab a big jug of wine also and then grin fiendishly at the clerk when checking out.

by younghutch on Aug 17, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In high school I would have to get something with a box of condoms. You can’t go into 7-11 and just get profos! You have to get them like you were causally shopping at a 7-11 on a Friday night at 11pm, bought a Three Muskateer, and, “oh, I almost forgot, I need some profos!” Stupid kid. Don’t worry, I won’t reproduce.

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Aug 17, 2009 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

On behalf of your penis, “What – are you crazy?”

by younghutch on Aug 17, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

On behalf of your fleshlight, I will cough politely.

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 17, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I got a good deal on an amazing TV in the end.

I hope you used lube!

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 17, 2009 2:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

bah

Curse my reply capabilities

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 17, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

there appears to be a part of the TV buying process I am unaware of

I'm up... everyone move in!

by NastySlurve on Aug 17, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

huge discount if you provide your own packaging

by iammclovin on Aug 17, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We’re all assuming that “tv” stands for “television.”

by younghutch on Aug 17, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol Dodgers

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Aug 17, 2009 2:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I was just laughing at them. Its normal

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by CB30 on Aug 17, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Apparently, Matty met up with David Wright today

Don’t know if this was already posted, but per Schulman: “Also, Matt Cain met David Wright at Citi Field today. They talked and they’re cool.”

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/indexn?blogid=22#ixzz0OTmuttvX

by kdl on Aug 17, 2009 2:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

As for tonight, the Giants try for a split against the Mets facing former teammate Livan Hernandez. The current Giants roster has a career .302 average against Livo. My guess on his line: 4 1/3 innings, 9 hits, 4 earned runs, 2 walks, 2 strikeouts.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/indexn?blogid=22#ixzz0OTqwKtQF

Hey, that copy-paste thing is kinda cool.

Anyway, Schulman clearly cursed the Giants and now Livan will go 6 2/3 innings and give up 1 run on 5 hits, walk nobody and strike out 3.

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by groug on Aug 17, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’ll probably hit a grand slam off of us as well.

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Aug 17, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’ll probably hit a grand slam off of us as well.

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Aug 17, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fernando Tatis will show him how it’s done.

by taliesin on Aug 17, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Later, Cain met with 30,000 angry fans

Wir müssen wissen — wir werden wissen!

by seesdifferent on Aug 17, 2009 2:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL WUT

TROLL

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Aug 17, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

and defeated them all in an epic one-man battle with a sawed off broomstick

Stuck it through seesdifferent’s mouth and shut his fucking gob for good.

The kingdom rejoiced.

The end.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 17, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think I love you

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by bondslegend on Aug 17, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

so what are you so afraid of?

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 17, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, rejection hurts

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by groug on Aug 17, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s afraid that he’s not sure of a love there is no cure for.

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Aug 17, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And uttered these words

Don’t worry about me Gettys. Don’t worry about me. I’m Matt Fucking Cane. I’m no cheap, crooked politician, trying to save himself from the consequences of his crimes.

by jctGamer on Aug 17, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

reply fail

Matt Fucking Cain

by jctGamer on Aug 17, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t care if it was intentional or not, MLB needs to send a message and suspend Cain for two starts at least.

Also known as “the hockey mindset.” Suspensions are much larger based on the severity of the injury, a major penalty is much less likely to be called if the “victim” gets up right away, and then there’s My Least Favorite Rule In Sports: after a high-sticking penalty, the official always checks the high-stickee for blood. A few drops of blood? Four-minute penalty. Just bruised? Two-minute penalty. The referee doesn’t consider intent or recklessness or context of any sort: his call is made solely by blood or its absence.

I wouldn’t say that this approach is completely illogical; it has its own sort of you-reap-what-you-sow logic. But to me it does make a lot more sense to concentrate more on the act and the intent than on the result.

by pantalones on Aug 17, 2009 3:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This

The “check if there is blood” method of assessing whether there is an injury is so stupid. I wouldn’t put it past some guys deliberately picking a scab so they get the extra two minutes.

However, in the case of suspensions, there is also a bit of past history throw in there – when Grier had that suspect hit on Johnson that broke Johnson’s arm, he was merely fined because he doesn’t have the history. When Gauthier elbowed Marleau in the head on an icing (which didn’t end up injuring Patty), he was suspended two games because he was already suspended earlier that month.

I would suspect the same for MLB – Cain doesn’t have any history of going after players or anything of the sort, and it was pretty obviously an accident, so he shouldn’t be suspended.

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by mymclife on Aug 17, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree. I think there’s enough subjectivity in umpiring without having to introduce a whole layer of injury assessment to the mix.

by TheLetter2 on Aug 17, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

One of the reasons I gravitated to baseball in a region dominated by football is the intelligence of it. A game that requires some thought on the part of both observer and participant seemed way more interesting than what everyone else was watching. Players and fans could agree that sometimes things just sucked, and there’s not much one can do about it.

Matt and David’s chat today bears this idea out. People understand things happen, sometimes for no reason. And they move on. Matt Cain did not want to throw a 94-MPH fastball at another human being’s head, but that’s exactly how it unfolded. Though I’d be pissed if I were struck in the head, possibly ending my season, I’d also understand that the guy who did simply didn’t mean to. Call me crazy, but the intent means a lot.

But in a society that clamors for snap answers and quick retribution more than context, the immediate reaction is almost always lauded as the “correct” one. Cooler heads mean having to consider the possibility that you’re -gasp!- wrong. I don’t know if it’s because we’re stupid, but it is because we’ve been trained to think the first reaction is the best one. There’s some biological evidence for this, but not enough to base EVERY reaction on it.

Also, they’re just mad because their team sucks. Neener, neener.

by TheLetter2 on Aug 17, 2009 4:05 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

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