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I am an intense Giants fan from New York, and can't stand the way Bochy handles this team. First of all, Nate should never miss a start. For a team that can't hit, this guy is the best pure hitting outfielder they have. That only should make it a no-brainer. Enough with Lewis already, he can't field and has 15 rbi's. The outfield should be Velez, Winn/Rowland, and Nate period. The world knows Edgar sucks, but our manager does not!. Start Uribe for most of the games and see what happens. Garko is an everyday player, since when? Since we got him! Platoon the guy and he might pay some dividends. We all know Molina needs to be moved, just for the fact that he clogs the bases, and he is not a number 4 hitter. Pablo batting cleanup is the right place for now. Nate seems like a pretty good choice for third.

With the pitching we have ,we all would have success managing this staff. This idiot finds a way to screw with it. Why does Affeldt get to face only one batter at a time, his numbers are great against both sides. Let him pitch to get his rhythm back. This move I loved, Righetti goes out to talk to Sanchez after the home run by Castillo; how about after the dropped ball by Lewis or after he falls behind Castillo. That is when Sanchez was upset! I know I was.

Look, they might be good enough to win the wild card, but this passive idiot is no help.

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rally platypus

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Aug 17, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

/rally platypus lays an egg

I R 5

by say hey nation on Aug 17, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Platypi r mammalz with lay eggz

by gvp914 on Aug 17, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

What is up with you fans?

Do you ever talk baseball or just post comments about the people who post baseball related comments. Great fans!

by dynamics on Aug 17, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Check out every other fanpost/fanshot on this site. Oh, hey look! Baseball talk!

by Natto on Aug 17, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

what's "based ball"

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Aug 17, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Isn’t that what happened to Adrian Beltre?

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

what kind of weird headline is that

what you drinkin wherever you is

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Aug 17, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are you sure?

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Aug 17, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

IN FACT HE IS!

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Aug 17, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is that you, Judy St*ff*s!?

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, actually he was appointed as a mod for his extensive knowledge of the game of table tennis.

VOTE SANDOVAL
Adopted Giant: Henry Sosa

by raisingcain on Aug 17, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

RACIST!!!

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

my bad

curling?

VOTE SANDOVAL
Adopted Giant: Henry Sosa

by raisingcain on Aug 17, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

CHIGLOOS

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

CHEESE IGLOOS R DELICIOUS

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Aug 17, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Reverse Racist

Non-Asians can be good at table tennis too

by gvp914 on Aug 17, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

/makes Geno Espinelli cry

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Aug 17, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Biba Golic

…is definitely not Asian, and good at table tennis.

by Ed Jew on Aug 17, 2009 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uh - uh.

We doan’ need no Spin Killerz roun’ here.

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Aug 18, 2009 1:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Funny you should say that…

by Natto on Aug 17, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

What is it about the east coast that makes you so angry and bitter? Is it the weather? The flat terrain?

Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!

by Useful_Idiot on Aug 17, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

A textbook case of reaching the right conclusions for the stupidest of reasons.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 10:59 AM PDT reply actions  

Because you knew we’re really intolerant of stupidity, repetition, and poorly-reasoned arguments?

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

You do know you HAVE posted before, right?

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.

@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Aug 17, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I count 5.

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.

@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Aug 17, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

UR5

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Aug 17, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Comments about baseball

1) Kim Batiste wasn’t very good.
2) LEFTIES CAN’T HIT LEFTIES!!!!
3) UZR is a better way to measure defense than errors.
4) Mark Carreon was an underrated Giant.
5) I really wish we hadn’t made that Jose Mesa-et-al-for-Steve-Reed-et-al trade.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Side conversation

Better Latin ballplayer feud: Omar Vizquel vs. Jose Mesa or Edgar Renteria vs. Orlando Cabrera?

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Vizquel vs. Mesa by far

I have yet to see any on the field altercations between Renteria & Cabrera.

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Aug 17, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Cabrera and Renteria just talk shit about each other

An article for the unfamiliar: http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3356524

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

The hook on the Cabrera/Renteria feud, I guess, is that they’re the top two players ever from Colombia. I agree it doesn’t have the pizzaz of Vizquel/Mesa.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mesa v. Vizquel involves more serious threats of violence, right?

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Aug 17, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

And autobiography mentions.

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Aug 17, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

And Mesa teaching his kids to call for him to bean Vizquel.

Still the loving, adoptive father of Hector Sanchez. And who doesn't love switch-hitting catchers with power and patience?

by tedfordfan on Aug 17, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mesa would’ve hit Vizquel with the bases loaded in the bottom of the ninth of game seven of the world series. He’s that vengeful/stupid

Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!

by Useful_Idiot on Aug 17, 2009 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fred Lewis is not clutttcccccchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Aug 17, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

can we hijack fanshots?

what did everyone think of District 9? I thought it was good, not great.

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Aug 17, 2009 11:10 AM PDT reply actions  

We might be seeing it tonight.

Hijacks haven’t been as big a thing this year as 2008, despite the glut of dumb. I kind of miss them.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

as in 2008, I meant to say.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

And speaking of movies

We saw Slumdog Millionaire via Netflix last night. It was another good-not-great for me.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

It was good, but very overrated.

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.

@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Aug 17, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Feel good movie of the year. Saw 5, runner up

by gvp914 on Aug 17, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Torture, child abuse, sectarian violence and abject poverty = feel good!

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Saw 5 just didn’t have enough child abuse to win

by gvp914 on Aug 17, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ugh, I didn’t like Slumdog at all. Nothing about it really jumped out at me

Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!

by Useful_Idiot on Aug 17, 2009 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

What if they release it in 3-D?

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Aug 18, 2009 1:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, because I’d still have to put up with the gimmicky story

Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!

by Useful_Idiot on Aug 18, 2009 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

It seems like hijacks are occurring a lot this year in Grant’s posts. The content is solid for the first two hundred comments or so, then someone mentions a tv show, food, or book and it all goes down hill. I’d feel bad about it, if I felt like I had anything to do with it. But I always provide quality content.

Ice Cream Bars > Popsicles. Discuss.

El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."

by ResDog on Aug 17, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think popsicles are great on a hot afternoon and ice cream bars are great at night time.

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Aug 17, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

is there even a question?

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Aug 17, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

not enough data

what kind of ice cream vs what kind of popsicle?

"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"

by The Gene Hackman on Aug 17, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only if it’s a fudge bar. I’m not a fan of vanilla

Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!

by Useful_Idiot on Aug 17, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Orange creamsicle

Jr. and I both dug that Sobe flavor that was dead – on

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Aug 18, 2009 1:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I definitely approve the orange creamsicle

Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!

by Useful_Idiot on Aug 18, 2009 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

/pincher arms

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Aug 17, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ripley ends up ejecting the aliens through the airlock.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Aug 17, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Kristin shot J.R.

El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."

by ResDog on Aug 17, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

IT'S A SLED

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Aug 17, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know, I saw The Crying Game years and years after it came out, so of course I already knew, but I’ve gotta say: she never looked like a she to me.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe it’s like Shakespeare and you’re just supposed to go along.

Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.

by Johnny Disaster on Aug 17, 2009 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe, but it was always my impression that people were SHOCKED! SHOCKED! At the revelation.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

 Gary Darling is blind

Nobody likes money

by fwoty oz on Aug 17, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wish I had known this going IN…….

Proud supporter of the Fightin' Hydrants.

by Little Napoleon on Aug 17, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really liked it.

I will attempt do do this without spoilers.

The cinematography and CGI was impeccable, definitely par for the course for a Peter Jackson film. I was a bit worried at the beginning, and was concerned that the documentary style would last for the entire movie, but it was a good way to introduce the plot. The acting was just fine, and I found it humorous that the main character really reminded me of the agent on Flight of the Conchords.

Plus, the vaporizing guns were flipping sweet.

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Aug 17, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Aug 17, 2009 11:23 AM PDT reply actions  

If you are new to the site, I understand your frustration. If you have been reading for a while, it’s pretty clear that most of these points have been brought up and discussed extensively. Thanks for your thoughts, but they are something that everyone is already tired of talking about.

Next time just say something like, “Pumpkin pie is gross”, and you will get many relevant responses.

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Aug 17, 2009 11:30 AM PDT reply actions  

See above

He posted a slightly different version of this same kind of rant lat year at the trade deadline.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Reading comprehension
If you are new to the site, I understand your frustration. If you have been reading for a while, it’s pretty clear that most of these points have been brought up and discussed extensively.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also

I tried talking about baseball above, but you didn’t participate. :(

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Which would be worse?

Failing to sign Zack Wheeler, or having your pumpkin pie replaced with cake?

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

wheeler, barely. cake is overrated.

It's spelled "T-A-K-I-M-O-T-S-C-H-M-O-E."

I support inroywetrust in his support of The VD Special in his support of me supporting Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.

by Takimoto on Aug 17, 2009 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Personally, I prefer key lime

by gvp914 on Aug 17, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

+1

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 17, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

u r rong

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Aug 17, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

You have to have them all thrown out
to have the Francois Truffault.

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Aug 17, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok, I'll bite

What’s the Francois Truffault

by gvp914 on Aug 17, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m gonna start a tally of Vic F posts that go right over my head

Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!

by Useful_Idiot on Aug 17, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just finished with Cooky , now you two?

If I say “Beatles” does a light come on in your head?

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Aug 18, 2009 1:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah...

…TALLY HO!

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Aug 18, 2009 1:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I got it right away. Maybe I’m learning.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 18, 2009 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nope

Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!

by Useful_Idiot on Aug 18, 2009 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is the sound of me caving.

But thanks , I get schooled on the lyrics (point of personal pride)

Creme tangerine and montelimat
A ginger sling with a pineapple heart
A coffee dessert – yes you know it’s good news
But you’ll have to have them all pulled out
After the Savoy truffle.

But you’ll have to have them all pulled out
After the Savoy truffle Francois Truffault.

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Aug 18, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I may not understand 90% of your posts, but I learn a lot when I go to google to try to figure them out

Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!

by Useful_Idiot on Aug 18, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well , then.

My life is redeemed.

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Aug 19, 2009 2:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

so wait...

You mock us for not talking about baseball, but the only part of my comment that you discuss is the obviously silly, non-baseball part of it? Don’t forget your soapbox on the way out the door.

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Aug 17, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

bye bye

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Aug 17, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

SUSPENSE

what amn’t i?

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Aug 17, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I HATE CLIFFHANGERS

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Aug 17, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is killing me… IVE GOTTA KNOW WHAT DELOREAn ISNT

Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.

by Johnny Disaster on Aug 17, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate most pumpkin-flavored foods with the exception of soft-serve pumpkin ice cream.

by gvp914 on Aug 17, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Holy cow, where has this soft-serve been hiding??

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Aug 17, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

The land of deliciousness

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Aug 17, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lots of smaller ice-cream/frozen yogurt shops serve it right around Halloween until after Thanksgiving. You might have to do some searching, but it’s worth it.

by gvp914 on Aug 17, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think i just barfed in my mouth a little

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Aug 17, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Pumpkin pie is gross"

YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT PIE

Osiris, lord of the dead, and relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants.
FREDEMPTION 2009

by neurofarm on Aug 17, 2009 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok?

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Aug 17, 2009 11:49 AM PDT reply actions  

Are you mad dog? If so, I’m a big fan of your rant

Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!

by Useful_Idiot on Aug 17, 2009 8:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Aug 18, 2009 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

This was a very weird discussion to read…

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right

by Giant among Angels on Aug 17, 2009 9:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Baseball

Team leaders in on-base percentage:

1. Sandoval .378
2. Lewis .354
3. Velez .339
4. Sanchez .333
5. Rowand .327

The Giants are last in MLB in team OBP at .310. For comparison, I think league-average OBP is around .335 (I’m not sure how to look up this stat). So, Fred Lewis should continue to play for this team. Also, his defense isn’t as bad as it seems… I think you’re overreacting to a few bad (really bad) plays.

Most of the rest of what you posted I agree with.

Osiris, lord of the dead, and relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants.
FREDEMPTION 2009

by neurofarm on Aug 17, 2009 11:25 PM PDT reply actions  

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