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Around SBN: Are The Orioles Bad Or Unlucky With Their Young Pitching?

Post-Game Thread: More Road Woes

You can't get angry at a pitcher for allowing a Luis Castillo home run. That's like getting angry at the city for not putting a "Yeti Crossing" sign up at a crosswalk when a Yeti causes you to be late for work. Marvel in the wonders of nature; don't get mad.

Scoring two runs? That's a good spot for your anger. I'm starting to think this lineup isn't really designed to score a lot of runs.

And I miss the old, magic Jeremy Affeldt. This mortal one is starting to drive me nuts.

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At least we can still split the series tomorrow… except that Livan certainly has a CGSO in him. Possibly also a few cheeseburgers and an entire pizza.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 16, 2009 1:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Can we: Maybe

Will we: Probably not

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Aug 16, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just so we're clear

It’s not that you really were a mod all along, right? Because I also completely forgot that HTS is a mod, so what do I know.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 16, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh shit - I should have known it all along

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 16, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Aug 16, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wasted 20 minutes of MS Paint on a lifeless thread.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 16, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

WTF

I didn’t notice I was in there until just now and it creeped me out DDDD:

At least I’m John though, he was the coolest dude in the Who.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 16, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently my MS Paint skills are much better than I thought.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 16, 2009 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nah, Grant made me a mod a couple weeks ago because we needed someone else other than Natto who was around most nights to open new threads.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 16, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also to keep the male mods from patting each other on the butt so much. It was really embarrassing. Goofus even puts on pants now. Mostly.

by Grant Brisbee on Aug 16, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

/makes some off-color remark on being down with homoerotic conduct.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 16, 2009 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m down with OPP

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2009: The return of Los Galacticos!

by Useful_Idiot on Aug 16, 2009 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Congratulations!

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 16, 2009 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’re the mod now, dog!

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 16, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

well played

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Aug 16, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Joey Time!

#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum

Adopted Father: Tyler Graham

by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 16, 2009 1:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Livan’s been awful in the first inning of games this year. If he pitches a scoreless first, we’re in big trouble.

embarrassed father of over the hill Edgardo Renteria

by rxmeister on Aug 16, 2009 1:23 PM PDT reply actions  

I’ll call it now: game over

by khenderson on Aug 16, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

If When he pitches a scoreless first,

Prove me wrong, Giants. Prove me wrong.

Osiris, lord of the dead, and relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants.
FREDEMPTION 2009

by neurofarm on Aug 16, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck this team

/opinion over

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by bondslegend on Aug 16, 2009 1:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Think of how much more fun this is, though, than whatever you’ll be thinking about in January.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Aug 16, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

woohoo

in that case, another year of aaron rowand

by sfoakbay on Aug 16, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

  1. shortstop in baseball history!!!!!1

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 16, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

smartass FAIL

NUMBER 1 shortstop blah blah i give up

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 16, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll be watching the 49ers' playoff run in January

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I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on Aug 16, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

/Alex Smith throws screen pass in dirt

by Grant Brisbee on Aug 16, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fixed

shaun hill leads team to last second victory

alex smith gets the start the following week. prevents winless season

My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

by Goofus on Aug 16, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

/Alex Smith throws screen pass in dirt pass 15 yards over Isaac Bruce’s head.

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 16, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

/Alex Smith throws screen pass in dirt pass 15 yards over Isaac Bruce’s head and gets intercepted.

"Put your drawers on, and take your gun off."

by cloudydays on Aug 16, 2009 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isaac Bruce’s head get intercepted?

My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

by Goofus on Aug 16, 2009 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thats how bad of a pass it was

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Aug 16, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

That'll be hard w/ Shaun Hill throwing the passes

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by bondslegend on Aug 16, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

i can see why we’re second to last in offense

by monta ellis on Aug 16, 2009 1:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Most defeated post-game thread in the history of post-game threads.

by Grant Brisbee on Aug 16, 2009 1:41 PM PDT reply actions  

IKR

wow it’s dead

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I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on Aug 16, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was pretty expected that we would lose

I dont really have anything new to rabble about, same old stuff

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by CB30 on Aug 16, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Back in the day, you were happy to get 18 comments in any thread

You’ve changed, man. You’ve changed.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
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by groug on Aug 16, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

/commissions Josh from Hollywood to make a Diary so I’m not so lonely

by Grant Brisbee on Aug 16, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

/doesn’t even know about site… tells somebody how cool RBIs are.

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Aug 16, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

ALSO BA

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by bondslegend on Aug 16, 2009 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

/posts Diary, loses respect for Grant.

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Aug 16, 2009 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

/tells Josh from Hollywood to get used to it. It’s a tough blogosphere, and at some point, you’ll be spit out of the back end of the porn blog industry no matter how talented of a actress commentor you think you are. So just go ahead and ditch all of your respect at once, sweet fingers, both for other people and yourself.

by Grant Brisbee on Aug 16, 2009 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hey, I was busy losing a softball playoff game. Don’t blame me

by Natto on Aug 16, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

can anything go right today?!

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by ringleader3 on Aug 16, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I found a frog in my 7ft x 15ft “back yard” this morning, that was kinda cool. And luckily for the frog, I found it before the cat did.

by Merope on Aug 16, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

no

New hard drive: emitting nice, constant, clicking sounds. BOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

There's 3 ways to do something: the right way, the wrong way, and the Max Power/ Ginats Way...

by natteringnabob on Aug 16, 2009 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bochy picked today's batting order out of his ass-hat.

I took one look and knew it was a 2-run maximum (as opposed to yesterday’s 3.5-run maximum). Fred Lewis hit #5 and Velez hit #1? Don’t even get me started about sitting Nate and starting Wynn.

by hokysmksbw on Aug 16, 2009 1:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Well, then, at least we can be proud of the fact that this order performed to its maximum potential…right?

by Wazl on Aug 16, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

lineup needed more renteria, amirite?

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 16, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

6 for 13, Homey!

Actually, I don’t disagree with giving Edgar the day off, I took umbrage with the ass-headedness of putting a base-stealer with no home run skills in the #5 hole while a 25-year-old with power (hitting .294 to boot) sat against a starting RHP. If he can’t start that game, you better sit him down for the ENTIRE game and yell, “HAMSTRING!” or “TENNIS ELBOW!” at the postgame conference.

by hokysmksbw on Aug 16, 2009 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t understand why Fred bats 5th all the time – he should have been hitting 2nd instead of Winn

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 16, 2009 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

This.

also I’m into the medieval / Wyld Stallyns spelling of Wynn’s name.

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 16, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

supposedly Bochy said that Nate will be playing everyday from now on. I’ll believe it when I see it.

embarrassed father of over the hill Edgardo Renteria

by rxmeister on Aug 17, 2009 6:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Except today

Today isn’t part of every day.

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by groug on Aug 17, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Still, I wish he’d put Sanchez and Sandoval in the 3 and 4 spots more often

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by Useful_Idiot on Aug 16, 2009 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t want anyone taking base-stealing lessons from Fred.

You want to see a walk? Then go watch the mailman.

by SeeingStars on Aug 17, 2009 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fred is successful 75% of the time (the last 2 years).

In the 80’s and early 90’s that was pretty damn good because dudes didn’t just sit around waiting for the gophers.

by hokysmksbw on Aug 17, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Time to bust out the standard post-game rant:

Goddammit, another quality start from Lincecum Cain Sanchez undone by a lack of offensive production. Bochy’s line-up and management boggled the mind once again. Seriously, dude? Bengie Molina still batting clean-up? Randy Winn batting second? Jesus Christ, it’s like you’re trying to lose! And what’s up with our bull-pen? Sergio Romo Jeremy Affeldt is killing me lately!

by Wazl on Aug 16, 2009 2:01 PM PDT reply actions  

MAD LIBS!

Gary Darling, go DIAFF.

by The Enchanter on Aug 16, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

know that the chances it would have mad a difference are extremely strong, but I’m getting really sick and tired of this “pull a pitcher for putting a runner in scoring position with complete disregard for how the runner got there or how dominant the current pitcher looks” thing.

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Aug 16, 2009 2:13 PM PDT reply actions  

wow

phone post fail. I meant the chances are extremely “small” and pleas excuse any other weird mistakes.

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Aug 16, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Romo should have been aggressive on the bunt, because it sure looked like he had an easy force at second. He bobbled the ball there, but that bobble happened because he was indecisive. Even though I liked the Affeldt-Murphy matchup and supported Bochy for making the move, perhaps he should have considered walking Murphy, setting up the DP, and having the weaker hitting Omir Santos and Anderson Hernandez try to drive in those runs.

embarrassed father of over the hill Edgardo Renteria

by rxmeister on Aug 16, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was also calling for the IBB — it’s by the Goddamn book to set up a DP in that situation.

by hokysmksbw on Aug 16, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

but if you're going to set up the dp

Why not set it up for the pitcher who just induced two ground balls?

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Aug 16, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because season and career stats mean just a tiny bit more than the past two AB’s.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 16, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Look at it this way

Of 146 qualifying relievers, Affeldt is 1st in GB%. If Romo qualified, he would be 138th.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 16, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s a good way to look at it. I still don’t quite like pulling the hot hand apparently because a runner fluked his way to second, but it was never something that was more than a pretty meaningless annoyance. 99 times out of 100, that probably doesn’t make a difference. I just wish it seemed like there was any kind of a thought process beyon “scoring position! Matchups!”

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Aug 16, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jesus, my phone doesn’t usually suck so hard at posting.

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Aug 16, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

“… who might not be sharp…”

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Aug 16, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think that’s a good philosophy as well. The more times you go into the pen, the better chance you have of putting somebody in that doesn’t have it that day.

embarrassed father of over the hill Edgardo Renteria

by rxmeister on Aug 17, 2009 6:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

That said: offense = enemy #1

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Aug 16, 2009 2:32 PM PDT reply actions  

I’d love to read your thoughts on the game. Please, continue.

by Grant Brisbee on Aug 16, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ummm. The offense sucked. And they were bad and stuff, too. I guess.

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Aug 16, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

also, i heard castillo hit a dinger

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by ringleader3 on Aug 16, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

jose castillo!?!?!?!

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 16, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought he only hit doubles.

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by groug on Aug 16, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

he told russell martin to suck it at least

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 16, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm digging your new sig line.

To what does it refer?

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Aug 16, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

people commenting on sports blogs?

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by ringleader3 on Aug 16, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Specifically, football blogs. The refuge for people who like to say things like “unbelievably stupid thing for anyone to say.”

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Aug 16, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have flagged exactly one post on any SB Nation blog.

It was well deserved.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
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by groug on Aug 16, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now I want to know what it was

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by CB30 on Aug 16, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

http://www.ninersnation.com/2009/8/14/988709/niners-nation-sits-down-with#19749393

You are an assistant coach on Niners Nation.

You should STRIVE to be more intelligent and more accurate in your responses.

Really.

I understand that my NFL knowledge dwarfs yours, but you can at least try to be intelligent and accurate.

You crawling out of the woodwork to attack me is kind of annoying. Your nonsense is kind of sad.

And this is after a thread where howie was nothing but respectful and this guy was nothing but a douche.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
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by groug on Aug 16, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't think of any type of person who is more aggravating

than someone who is clearly not very bright insulting others’ intelligences.

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
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by thehavenot on Aug 16, 2009 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

although as a Jets’ fan, I’m sure as hell hoping that they play better for Ryan than they did for Mangini!!

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by rxmeister on Aug 16, 2009 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

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by bondslegend on Aug 16, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downing_effect

The Downing effect describes the tendencies of people with below average intelligence quotients (IQs) to overestimate their intelligence, and of people with above average intelligence to underestimate their intelligence. The propensity to predictably misjudge one’s own intelligence was first noted by C. L. Downing who conducted the first cross cultural studies on perceived intelligence.

His studies also evidenced that the ability to accurately estimate others’ intelligence was proportional to one’s own intelligence. This means the lower the IQ score of an individual, the less capably he or she can appreciate and accurately appraise others’ intelligence. The lower an individual’s IQ, the more likely they are to rate themselves as more intelligent than others around them.

by khenderson on Aug 16, 2009 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Wow that explains a GREAT many things

thanks for that. I’d never heard of that before.

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by bondslegend on Aug 16, 2009 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

First, IQ testing is not an accurate way of testing intelligence, and one will never be found, b/c definition of intelligence varies

Second, wikipedia!

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Aug 17, 2009 6:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

But that theory makes too much sense to not have SOME credibility

stupid people are often the ones who are most likely to think they’re smart

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by bondslegend on Aug 17, 2009 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

or ignorant

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Aug 17, 2009 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, I invite you to do your own research, or not - it's up to you.

To dismiss the Downing Effect because a wiki page references the phenomenon is somewhat ironic. The Downing Effect is part of a larger set of phenomena known, collectively, as the Dunning-Krueger Effect.

I see Dunning-Kruger a lot in my field of expertise, economics. One of my favorite quotes from Paul Krugman is from an essay he wrote on economic cranks, “I have repeatedly encountered would-be economic experts who begin a conversation by saying ‘The trouble with economists is that they never consider the possibility that . . .’ and refuse to believe me when I tell them that that very possibility is treated at length in most sophomore-level textbooks—and that their radical insight is either a well-known fallacy or, worse yet, a familiar and standard part of the canon……the simple things misunderstood, the garbled statistics, the statement of both standard concepts and classic fallacies as if they were revolutionary innovations—is overwhelming.”

by khenderson on Aug 17, 2009 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I just find it hard to respect wikipedia or psychology. The Downing effect can be rationalized as a confidence/education/ignorance effect also.

People with lower self confidence will bring other people down, while people with high confidence will try to down play their abilities.

Have you ever heard of the little Albert studies? Psychologist are notorious for skewing data

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Aug 17, 2009 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

You don't have to respect either. Skepticism is a good thing.

And the more you know the more you’ll be skeptical of your own knowledge. The irony, though, is the less you know the less skeptical you’ll be. I’m guessing 90% of Internet flame wars originate from Dunning-Kruger.

Here’s an article a found interesting:

http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/04/06/climate-change-and-argumentative-fallacies/

by khenderson on Aug 17, 2009 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

physicists are also famous for this type of error

when applying their vast knowledge of the universe to other disciplines:

There is a story about Feynman, who, after attending a seminar on evolutionary biology, when back home with his (Giant) brain all aflutter… 2 days later he comes back to a colleague and shows him all the work he has done deriving basic principles of evolution that he’s sure will be a big break through.

Biology professor shows him an undergraduate textbook with all that stuff there.

I am an anti Dunning-Krueger… if I think of something “new” I immediatly assume someone else has already thought of it.

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by zenbitz on Aug 17, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

“Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge.”

- Charles Darwin (The Descent of Man)

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 17, 2009 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

“The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool”. – Shakespeare, As You Like It, Touchstone the Fool Act V, Scene I.

Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 17, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

“The sun’s not yellow, it’s chicken.”

- Robert Allen Zimmerman, (Tombstone Blues )

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 18, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wish to not speak about the game.

Watching the A’s/White Sox game and they are wearing the super throwback uniforms. When they said white Sox, they meant it: they’re wearing the knee socks in pure white.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 16, 2009 2:42 PM PDT reply actions  

in other news: how was the burrito?

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by ringleader3 on Aug 16, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

very good

The guac was especially tasty.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 16, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

ah, good burrito is good. I’m more of a taco guy myself… have become addicted to the various taco trucks around SOMA in SF

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by ringleader3 on Aug 16, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

The one behind CNET rules.

Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.

by Johnny Disaster on Aug 16, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, los compadres… same guys run one at spear and folsom… i hit that place up on tues and sit by the bay, its a nice lunch

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by ringleader3 on Aug 16, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

All i can think about is “I’m Jennifer Lopez and i like tacos and burritos.”

Gary Darling, go DIAFF.

by The Enchanter on Aug 16, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

ell grullense

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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 16, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

damnit, now i want tacos

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by ringleader3 on Aug 16, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d drive down from Davis for that place. So damn good.

"Well, um, actually a pretty nice little Saturday, we're going to go to Home Depot. Yeah, buy some wallpaper, maybe get some flooring, stuff like that. Maybe Bed, Bath, & Beyond, I don't know, I don't know if we'll have enough time."

by Azantor on Aug 17, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Which one (seems like there’s a million taquerias with that name).

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by can of corn on Aug 17, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

rwc. www.elgrullensegrill.com/

there are grullenses across from each other (there used to be, not sure if there still are).

there used to be a grullense truck in sf too, prettty sure not related.

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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 17, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cool. I’ll keep it in mind for when I’m up in that area.

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by can of corn on Aug 17, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

in Palo Alto

on south bound El Camino a few blocks south of Page Mill
http://www.yelp.com/biz/taqueria-el-grullense-palo-alto

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by seesdifferent on Aug 17, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is it a chain, or just a common name?

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by can of corn on Aug 17, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

don't know

but I do know that you can get two great pulled pork soft tacos and all the chips u want for under three bucks.

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by seesdifferent on Aug 17, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

huh.

I willl check it out after our offices move to 1501 California.

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by zenbitz on Aug 17, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

If you’re on California, you ought to try Cho’s.

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by Josh from Hollywood on Aug 17, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

oops meant that there are two across from each other on el camino in rwc.

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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 17, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

That it is…

Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.

by Johnny Disaster on Aug 16, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

awesome tacos (and good burritos to)

ironically a little Mexican market on Grand Av. In South SF. Not sure of the name or address….it’s between Maple and Walnut, across from the grassy civic area.

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by zenbitz on Aug 17, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

So this game sucked hard, let's talk about something else that sucks hard

Am I the only one HOPING Bart would strike come Monday so they can fire all these assholes for abandonment?

Seriously. The current structure for overtime pay and pension plan for these people are so out of line, it is due for an overhaul, and they have the audacity to walk out of their 100K paying jobs?

Get a grip of reality, and go fuck yourself like Damon Bruce.

by jctGamer on Aug 16, 2009 2:46 PM PDT reply actions  

It’s deplorable. It’s got to be one of the most blatant gravy trains in the Bay Area and nobody does a damn thing to stop it.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 16, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Baron is virtually always right

and this is the rightest of the right. I’m in a freaking public employee union, and I cannot imagine going on strike in this economy. Because they’re eliminating a second pension? Or requiring some token health ins. contribution?

And I didn’t hear BART management offer to give back any sales tax revenues generated while the trains weren’t running and employees weren’t working.

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by natteringnabob on Aug 16, 2009 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m super pro union, as my dad and grandfather were Teamsters. It’s illegal to be anything but pro-union in my family. But this is clearly bullshit and not the goal of unions at all. I’m glad those in unions see how awful this whole fiasco is.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 16, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am a union supporter for the most part. Grew up in a union family and I’m in one now. But in California, the Prison Guards, Police, Fire Fighters, Dock Workers, etc. seem to have hugely unrealistic expectations for their future contracts. In the past the pay and pensions from the private sector were slightly ahead of those working for the public sector. Currently the pay and pensions of the private sector have been diminishing. Most striking is that private sector retirements have moved to a 401k style vs a defined benefit plan. I believe that the benefits for our public services should mirror what is going on in the private sector not greatly exceed it. Our private sector tax base can no longer support these huge pension plans.

No one here gets out alive.

by Bond16 on Aug 16, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

The tradeoff between public sector & private sector jobs used to be:

In private sector, pay was higher but conditions were harder (more hours expected of workers, less job security, etc); gov’t pay was lower, but hours were fewer and had more job protection. In California, the unions have achieved such immense political power via immense campaign contributions, so that elected officials negotiate these sweetheart contracts with the unions so that gov’t workers get great pay AND great security AND fewer hours than private sector. This has been covered immensely by SF Guardian re Newsom’s dealings with cops & firefighters— 11% raise in a depression.

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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 16, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

The historically strong private sector unions have all given major concessions because the current economy. Not so in the public sector.

No one here gets out alive.

by Bond16 on Aug 16, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right. And the public unions haven't given significant concessions (and in many cases, NO concessions) because they haven't been forced to.

And they haven’t been forced to because they employ the elected officials, not the other way around.

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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 16, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was always more of a confederate fan, myself

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by Useful_Idiot on Aug 16, 2009 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Forgive me if it was already mentioned, but the Angels defeated the Orioles in 13 innings…by scoring 9 runs in the top of the 13th inning. 17-8 was the final score.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 16, 2009 3:07 PM PDT reply actions  

The O’s almost won this game in the bottom of the 9th when Adam Jones’ fly ball was caught at the wall, turning what looked like a walk-off HR into just a game-tying sac fly. It’s crazy that they came within a couple of feet of winning, then lost by 9.

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by Josh from Hollywood on Aug 16, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

good lord

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 16, 2009 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Will the Giants even score 9 runs in NY??

by SFGuy on Aug 16, 2009 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well let’s see:
0 Friday
5 Saturday
2 Sunday
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If they score 2 tomorrow, then yes, otherwise, no.

by Merope on Aug 16, 2009 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

it's Livan

So doubtful.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 16, 2009 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Frci?

Am I missing something? What is “Frci?”

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by antinous on Aug 16, 2009 3:08 PM PDT reply actions  

If you look at his uniform, it looks like…

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by groug on Aug 16, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gosh, I missed that. Thanks.

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by antinous on Aug 16, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Geez

grant is way too fucking clever. And I mean that in the best way possible.

/dont ban me!!

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by bondslegend on Aug 16, 2009 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

wow, this place is ded

i took after the game for a nice bike ride… I feel better now, but it’s kind of weird: I didn’t feel that dejected after this loss. I must be getting jaded to them.

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by ringleader3 on Aug 16, 2009 3:11 PM PDT reply actions  

To early in the day to be depressed about this team

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by CB30 on Aug 16, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

FUCK BEING DEPRESSED, LET’S DRINK

by SFGuy on Aug 16, 2009 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

My language

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by Josh from Hollywood on Aug 16, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Mad Men” is back tonight. I’m drinking and watching that.

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by Skaldheim on Aug 16, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

at the end of the day, don’t get depressed at the start of the day

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by Useful_Idiot on Aug 16, 2009 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just Back from the Game

The stats say quality start from Sanchez but they sure hit a lot more balls hard than we did. He seemed to periodically lose the strike zone completely, just like the last time I saw him pitch live — Norwich v. Trenton. God it’s annoying when the temperature is in the mid-90’s. For anyone who was listening and didn’t see it on television, the hit before Castillo’s home run looked like an error on FLew from our seats in the upper deck just beyond third base. Alas, there is no margin for anything less than flawless defense with an offense this bad. I was with a Yankees fan, but she is such a sweet old friend that she spared me any comments along the lines of “You know, not one of these guys would be starting on the Yankees.”

by NearestNorwich on Aug 16, 2009 3:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, FLew looked like an error to some of us, too

It sure looked like an error to me, as it landed RIGHT IN HIS GLOVE. Not the heel, not the tippytips— right in the pocket. Grr.

I can’t subscribe to any criticism of Sanchez, though, despite that some hits/contacts were hard. The strike zone of Crawford was tight and sometimes changeable, and he did, after all, hold the other side to 2 runs in 7 innings.

Looks like a really nice ballpark, though. Hope you had fun despite punchless, anemic, weak-ass, offense by the Giants.

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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 16, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

that Flew catch bobble was retarded

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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 16, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

New promotion at the yard: Fred Lewis bobble glove figurine.

by Merope on Aug 16, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think I actually heard a “clang” when the ball smacked him in the glove.

by younghutch on Aug 16, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

From Baggarly postgame:

“Hey Bochy, should Fred Lewis have caught Angel Pagan’s fly ball in the fifth inning?

"Yeah, I think Freddy would say so," Bochy said.

Actually, no. Lewis said the ball popped out of his glove when his elbow hit the turf. But that doesn’t resemble the play as I saw it, either live or on replay. Lewis lost the ball instantly.

For some reason, it’s very difficult for Lewis to own up to a mistake. That’s got to be infuriating to fans, and I’d imagine it doesn’t endear him to teammates, either."

Me: Are you kidding me?

by younghutch on Aug 16, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

FLew: CLANG!

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by ringleader3 on Aug 16, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

It really is true — I really root for Fred, but I’d like him a lot more if he owned up to his miscues more often.

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by Josh from Hollywood on Aug 16, 2009 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I have to agree – I don’t blame him for the loss for not catching the ball; it was a tough play, not many would have made it to the ball, etc but it’s a play he probably should have made. I’m not going to fault him too much for NOT making it but he really should say things like, “Yeah, I should have caught that” after he does things like that.

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by jponry on Aug 16, 2009 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

The weird part is that he knows we can all see the reply, so why would he just make up something that’s so clearly wrong? Maybe that’s what he actually thinks that happened. Though that might be even weirder.

But seriously, how many LF make that play? 5? If we still had, say, Barry (2006 version) out there, he’d see that he can’t make the out, play it nicely off the wall, and turn around and get the ball back into the infield quickly. It would be good, clean baseball, and nobody would blame Bonds for the loss. But it wouldn’t be any better for the team. Just less ugly.

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by Cookyman on Aug 16, 2009 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel the opposite of Fred most of the time. In fact that bobble during Cain’s start a few starts ago, in CO when he goofed but then produced at the plate… when he was being interviewed after the game, Miller (I think) kept asking about is success at the plate and Cain’s solid start and Freddy kept STEERING the interview back to his blunder in LF, which kinda made it all the more painful and seemed like he was gonna cry or something. He seems like a really sincere and humble kid to me (at least).

Nonetheless, the kid has concrete blocks for hands and it’s painful to see.

He makes that catch today, it’s the third out. No homer. Mets probably don’t win. It’s baseball. He’s Fred Lewis. he play our outfield. Maybe you can’t pin the loss on him but he doesn’t lose the ball, that homer doesn’t happen and maybe he makes it to tonight’s web gem. The baseball gods saw a different ending.

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 16, 2009 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m a little buzzed and my spelling sucks :(

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 16, 2009 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

But it led to this gem...
“He’s Fred Lewis. he play our outfield.”

For some reason, this really speaks to me.

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by Josh from Hollywood on Aug 16, 2009 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

and this
The baseball gods saw a different ending.

Wir müssen wissen — wir werden wissen!

by seesdifferent on Aug 17, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah well don’t judge me, who doesn’t like to have a drink OR TWENTY when the giants are playing their awesome brand of baseball.

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 17, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or maybe if the Giants score more than 2 runs off a guy with an ERA of almost 5 they win the game…

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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 16, 2009 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah I agree. I’m not pinning the loss on Fred, but one fail on THIS team’s defense or THIS team’s offense and the game is lost, that’s all I’m saying.

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 16, 2009 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it’s definitely true and it’s probably the reason why Fred’s mistakes are magnified so much more than they probably ought to be.

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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 16, 2009 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can’t imagine that I’m the only cynical one here, right? but when that ball popped out of friends glove today, we all just knew that the HR was coming next, right? or at least it was going to be a decisive play / blunder? I want Fred to do well, whether or elsewhere (preferably not in the NL west).

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 16, 2009 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

friends

good heavens… Fred’s..

Okay, no more post-bar posting for me.

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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 16, 2009 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d join.

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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 16, 2009 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

we all get cool shades

and bubbahayeds

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 16, 2009 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL reflective glasses and free knee caps!

also cheers to whomever made this one.

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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 16, 2009 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno, I’m pretty pessimistic but I never would have expected a HR from Luis Castillo

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by jponry on Aug 16, 2009 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not fun fact

With his home run today, Castillo now has 28 career home runs and only his 4th since the beginning of the 2008 season. Pablo has 21 career. All within the past year.

by SFGuy on Aug 16, 2009 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I betcha Pablo’s going to wake up a wee bit sore in the morning. No home runs for him for awhile.

by Merope on Aug 16, 2009 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

fun facts not guaranteed to be fun

Actual level of fun may vary.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 16, 2009 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the problem here was that Sanchez was pitching. If Lincecum or Cain was pitching and Freddie did that, we would not be expecting the next hitter to hit one out. Freddie made the mistake with the worst possible pitcher on the mound. The one who’s going to fall apart when things suddenly go wrong.
   As for the guy who mentioned that game where Fred “made up for it with the bat” and then was upset about his fielding miscue, it’s probably easier for him to admit he made a bad play after they won, than after they had a tough loss and his play was the main reason why.

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by rxmeister on Aug 16, 2009 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think it’s fair to say that play was the MAIN reason why. It was A reason but I do think we all know what the real reason was.

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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 16, 2009 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bochy hates the giants?

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 16, 2009 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh me neither. but I also wasn’t surprised by my own reaction of “oohhhh of course” when it happened. sorta seems an appropriate reaction for the 2009 giants.

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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 16, 2009 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

All this.

Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 16, 2009 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gary Darling and his crew did a horrible job during the Giants-Dodgers series (also see below for Darling today in Oakland) but Lincecum gets the win if the Giants score more than 2 in 9 innings.

by SFGuy on Aug 16, 2009 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

BTW

My comment has nothing to do with Lewis but I thought I’d mention this because of the runs the Giants scored today.

by SFGuy on Aug 16, 2009 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

There’s no leeway on other side, defense or offense. Instead we get failure on both sides of the coin much of the time.

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 16, 2009 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember that. Krukow was also trying to help Fred out, talking about how hard it is to judge balls in Coors, but Fred said that he just messed up.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

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by Cookyman on Aug 16, 2009 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does he realize that we were actually watching the game, and know that isn’t true?

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by Useful_Idiot on Aug 16, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I too was at the game

and I think that that play perfectly sums up Fred Lewis as defined by UZR and Fred Lewis as he actually is.

He got there, made a sweet dive, and… clank.

Yes, that was a tough play. A hit, not an error. But Christ on a crutch, man it hit right in the pocket of your glove! And was out again before you hit the ground, no matter what your memory tells you. As they say in football, if it hit you in the hands, you shoulda caught it.

Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 16, 2009 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

what the heck? Tiger is down a stroke now?

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by ringleader3 on Aug 16, 2009 3:13 PM PDT reply actions  

yeah Yang eagled the reachable 300 yard par 4 14th with a chip. Tiger birdied that hole then missed an eight foot birdie put on the final par 5 to tie it. 3 holes to go and no easy birdie opps.

No one here gets out alive.

by Bond16 on Aug 16, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

/pretends he knows anything about golf

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 16, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

HOLE IN ONE!

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by CB30 on Aug 16, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yang supposedly is the first Asian to win a major. But Tiger is half Asian.

by SFGuy on Aug 16, 2009 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe they’re in the camp where Asian=east Asia, and doesn’t consider India, Thailand, Philippines, etc. Asia.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 16, 2009 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've seen some who don't consider India to be Asia

But Thailand? The Philippines?

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by thehavenot on Aug 16, 2009 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I knew of a guy who didn’t consider the Philippines to be part of Asia. His reasoning was the prevalence of Hispanic surnames among Filipinos. True story.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 16, 2009 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

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I hate humanity.

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by thehavenot on Aug 16, 2009 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

me too

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 16, 2009 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yer both skrewd.

Unless you find a desert island.

by FreshStart on Aug 16, 2009 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, that’s a very stupid reason to think that, but there has been some debate in the past over whether or not the Philippines are part of Asia (it’s this whole Pacific Islander question). But it doesn’t seem to be a very popular question today, and it seems pretty widely accepted to me that it counts as Asian.

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Aug 17, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

If the people who live there are Indians, that would make it part of America.

Duh.

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by groug on Aug 16, 2009 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, it is a subcontinent practically by itself.

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by Cookyman on Aug 17, 2009 6:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s what I was going to say!

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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 17, 2009 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

The “practically” is the point. And, it seems like some cultural assumptions are getting in the way of a geographical concept.

by FreshStart on Aug 17, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know

I’m guessing that that’s why some people don’t see it as part of Asia.

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by Cookyman on Aug 17, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

And of course cultural assumptions are getting in the way of geographical concepts – otherwise Europe wouldn’t be a continent.

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by Cookyman on Aug 17, 2009 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

My fiance, is one who says Indians aren’t Asians. I think the confusion is from the following:

Orientals or Orient (not PC)——> Chinese (Largest Orient(Far East country)———> Not everyone is from China————> ASIAN!

India =/= orient

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by say hey nation on Aug 17, 2009 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s just like you wouldn’t call a US citizen who was born in Egypt an African-American.

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by Cookyman on Aug 17, 2009 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think he means that just like how “Asian” replaced the word “Oriental”, “African-American” replaced the word “black”. Thus, an Indian would not be considered Asian, and an Egyptian-American would not be considered African-American, even though they probably should be based on the geographical terms.

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by neurofarm on Aug 17, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

People didn’t want to say “East-Asian”, let alone “Sub-Saharan-African”, because it’s too long, and people are lazy. So instead, they just said “Asian” or “African”, trusting that the people around them will know what they mean. And it worked – whenever people heard someone say “Asian”, they knew he or she meant East-Asian. It worked so well, that “Asian” and “East-Asian” have become completely interchangable (as have “African” and “Sub-Saharan-African”), and now people are actually starting to forget that not all (or even most) Asians are actually from East-Asia, and that not all Africans are black.

It’s just a good example of what a huge effect language has on the way we think. Of that, and of how we’re just a bunch of lazy morons.

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by Cookyman on Aug 17, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Of course, in the UK, when people say “Asians”, they generally mean people of Indian or Pakistani descent.

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by jponry on Aug 17, 2009 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

that too

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 17, 2009 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Could that be b/c of the different influences that Asia has on the US/UK?

I am not sure about the UK, but I imagine Pakistan and India (both former colonies) affected the UK greater than eastern Asia. I believe the opposite is true for the US (Railroad, chinatowns, etc).

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by say hey nation on Aug 17, 2009 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well yeah, of course

I just think it’s somewhat funny, how different the conception of “Asian” is in the two countries.

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by jponry on Aug 17, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

perception.

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by jponry on Aug 17, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the conception of Asians works pretty much the same wherever you go.

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by EliminateMe on Aug 17, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s the first that was born in an Asian country.

by nataku on Aug 16, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well that was just nifty.
This team is soooo oh nm I don’t have the energy…

by Merope on Aug 16, 2009 3:24 PM PDT reply actions  

I could’ve sworn I saw Bobby Jones warming up in the bullpen for NY.

by younghutch on Aug 16, 2009 3:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Hope fading...

fading….

it’s almost gone…

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by thehavenot on Aug 16, 2009 4:59 PM PDT reply actions  

On the hope level from 1-10

Im at about a 6. At the all star break I was at 8.

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by CB30 on Aug 16, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m about a 4, though I’m sure the team has a great winning streak still left in them which will bounce my hope level back up to an 8.5.

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by Skaldheim on Aug 16, 2009 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even if they get to the playoffs, they will get there as a wild card team, so they will have to play more games on the road, so they will continue to suck, so I refuse to get my hopes up.

by Merope on Aug 16, 2009 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

What’s the Sunday night game?

by Merope on Aug 16, 2009 5:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Phillies Braves

But its raining

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by CB30 on Aug 16, 2009 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

thanks
There were two games that were having rain issues on my little “scoreboard gizmo” I wasn’t sure which one was tonight’s game.

by Merope on Aug 16, 2009 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

A luis Castillo upper deck home run. About as common as seeing a solar and lunar ecplipse at the same time

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by CB30 on Aug 16, 2009 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

irritation, annoyance, yelling at the screen, condemning Lewis, worrying about Panda, and more irrational yelling – this time directed at Bochy…
so…
as you can see…
you didn’t really miss a thing.

by Merope on Aug 16, 2009 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

But Joe and Grady are so dreamy!

Who could be disgusted by that?

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by groug on Aug 16, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think he has a crush on Joe (or Grady, they are equally dreamy) and is jealous that they don’t let him in on the fun.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 16, 2009 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Grady’s Ladies”

BARF.

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 16, 2009 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Better than Willy Mo’s Hos in Cincinnatti

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by Useful_Idiot on Aug 16, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or the alternative to Grady’s Ladies, “Sizemore’s Whores”

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by Useful_Idiot on Aug 16, 2009 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Alternately

SizeQueens. Could work for the fellas. If you’re into that.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 16, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here in SF we have Frandsvestites, Romosexuals, and Velezbians.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 16, 2009 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I ship it

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by jponry on Aug 16, 2009 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I need this ship

The boat left and I wasn’t on the boat.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 16, 2009 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

D:

I don’t like fakebald!Tim. But the armless legless Tiger Woods photo on the same page made me laugh. A lot.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 16, 2009 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love the Onion.

by SFGuy on Aug 16, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

In other news, Joe Mauer is insane

He’s leading his league in AVG, OBP, and SLG. This is a historical season – Berra, Campanella, Bench, and Piazza have never even led the league in any of these categories.

I’m gonna be so pissed when Youkilis gets the MVP.

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by Cookyman on Aug 16, 2009 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

And he missed a month and has 22 homers. He’s off the chain.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 16, 2009 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Plus he’s hitting in a pitchers’ park. And he plays good defense.

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by Cookyman on Aug 16, 2009 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know if I were to call the Metrodome a pitcher’s park.

by SFGuy on Aug 16, 2009 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is according to all the park factors.

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by Cookyman on Aug 16, 2009 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Batters get confused by the flapping garbage bags on the outfield walls!!!

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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 16, 2009 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

And it’s if I would.

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by Cookyman on Aug 16, 2009 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

(Don’t know why I had to do that)

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by Cookyman on Aug 16, 2009 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but Youkilis will win and the media will jerk off to it until February.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 16, 2009 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think a Yankee is in the lead right now.

by SFGuy on Aug 16, 2009 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have faith that the media will jerk off to that, too.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 16, 2009 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

RACIST

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by Cookyman on Aug 16, 2009 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Teixeira seems like a more popular choice at the moment.

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by jponry on Aug 16, 2009 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would go Mauer

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by CB30 on Aug 16, 2009 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really? That would be one of the worst MVP selections ever.

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by Cookyman on Aug 16, 2009 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know but the Yankees writers are writing masturbatory articles about it all over the place.

They said Mauer’s numbers were only “slightly” better than Texeira’s. I lol’d.

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by jponry on Aug 16, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is amusing.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 16, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions