Zack Wheeler?
by smay24 on Aug 15, 2009 6:25 PM PDT
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PrintI was just wondering if anyone has heard anything if the Giants are going to be signing him before the deadline or not. I know that the trade that sent away Alderson should make the Giants more eager to sign this guy. I remember on draft day that Wheeler said that "he was ready to play and wanted to sign right away" well sure looks as if he was sticking to his own word on this own.
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most experts speculate until he won’t sign until the last day of the signing period (the 18th, I think), but that he will sign.
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
The deadline is this Monday - Midnight EST
It’s normally Aug. 15th, but since that landed on the weekend this year they moved it to the next business day.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Schulman indicated that there are rumors a deal has been reached, but they won’t actually sign until just before the deadline because it’s above slot and they don’t want to upset the Commissioner’s office.
"The knowledge of the game is inversely proportional to the price of the seat." ---Bill Veeck. •Now you can follow SFDugout.com on Twitter and Facebook!•
Selig can complain about this while he’s blowing my pet goat.
embarrassed father of over the hill Edgardo Renteria
P.S.
Isn’t Selig paid over 18 million dollars per year by the owners? Isn’t that way over slot for incompetent major league commissioners?
embarrassed father of over the hill Edgardo Renteria
We should try to dump his salary on a different league. The NHL perhaps? Maybe if we kick in a little of his salary, they’d give us a low level prospect like the Tampa Bay Lightening.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
Not really...
Do you see what Stern gets? He gets paid for what he did, but he isn’t doing anything worthwhile anymore.
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by BruteSentiment on Aug 16, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Stern is still doing a lot, it seems he’s been primarily focused on international growth for a while now…
by Missing Barry on Aug 16, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
That, and fixing games.
Prospective parent of new pick, Zack Wheeler. Projectable Righty stolen from the braves. Of course, I stalk my son's myspace: http://www.myspace.com/zackwheelerbaseball
"Obviously I’m not doing things like going toe-to-toe with a ninja. Find me a ninja, for one."--Brian Wilson
well, having the Sacramento Kings in the 2002 NBA Finals wasn’t going to help the NBA grow internationally
by FluLikeSymptoms on Aug 16, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
A team featuring Vlade Divac, Hedo Turkoglu, and Peja Stojokavic?
by Missing Barry on Aug 16, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s pretty fucked. Why would you abuse your goat like that?
Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 16, 2009 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions
/insert Michael Vick – PETA joke here.
Gary Darling, go DIAFF.
by The Enchanter on Aug 16, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t understand why they care. I haven’t seen a single signing that wasn’t accompanied by the words “Player X signed for $Y which is $Z over slot”. The Pirates were giving $1M+ bonuses to ninth-round picks, and the Giants can’t announce an over-slot bonus?
It’s discouraged because it gives leverage to other prospects. If a later round guy signs for over slot, nobody cares, because if a later round guy asks for too much they simply won’t sign him and move on and it won’t be a big deal. If a first round guy signs for over slot, though, it could encourage other first rounders to ask for more and use the over slot contract as their benchmark, and that’s where all the real big bonuses and talent that do actually matter a lot of the clubs are.
by Missing Barry on Aug 16, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Zack Wheeler
Wheeler is likely to sign and even though he is from Georgia will probably get a few innings in at the Az Intrucx
How do you have any way of knowing that, given that he isn’t even from Arizona!!!!
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
I believe that the deal is already done, the required physical has been passed, and they’re just waiting until Monday afternoon to make a big splash announcement. He’ll probably be getting around $3M (his #6 slot is approximately $2.3M).
Now that they know how much of the money budgeted for player signings (both draftees and international FA’s) has been allocated, let’s hope Sabes and his boys are burning the phone lines this weekend and Monday to get at least one of the remaining 5 quality mid-round draftees signed by midnight Monday.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
The Giants are in an interesting position in that they drafted at the same spot in two consecutive years, thus in some sense setting their own bar. If I were Wheeler’s agent I’d be holding out for something at least in the ballpark to Posey’s bonus last year. And I wouldn’t be swayed by arguments about the relative difference of the two players or their upside or their experience — the bonus would be, in my view, tied exclusively to the value of the pick itself. Last year they felt the #6 pick was worth $6.2 million in bonuses. Understanding a dip in the economy, I’d be asking for somewhere in the 5.8 range.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
But the conventional wisdom is that part of the reason Wheeler was picked was that he wouldn’t break the bank.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
Conventional wisdom sometimes doesn’t know what it’s talking about. And sometimes the desire to not break the bank stops where the opportunity to break the bank starts. If he was going to be an easy and relative cheap sign he’d be signed and playing by now, like Tony Sanchez has been for weeks.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Not a good comparison since Sanchez signed for slot
Teams pay Selig a lot of money to be the boss, and one of his pet projects is the slotting system. It makes Selig look bad when teams ignore it, so in order to soften the blow they play the game of waiting until the last minute to announce multi-million $$$ contracts that are significantly over slot. That way they can tell Selig that the negotiations were contentious and went down to the wire if he complains.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Selig also encourages this to take leverage away from the prospects. Basically they’re trying to stop Prospect A from having Prospect B’s big money contract to point to, especially if Prospect B was picked behind Prospect A and got an enormous bonus.
by Missing Barry on Aug 16, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Sanchez’ signing was actually a little above slot, but not significantly so, but beyond that I have no idea what you’re point is. Wheeler could obviously have signed for slot as well, if his imperative was to sign fast and get on the field, which is what “conventional wisdom” suggested he was going to do.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Sanchez signed for < $20K over slot – an insignificant number to Selig.
My point is this:
I posted that I thought a Wheeler deal was already done for around $3M in bonus money, which is more than $700K over slot and would be the biggest bonus paid in the entire draft so far - therefore it would be a very significant snub to Selig to announce it early.
You replied to my post saying that if a deal were already done then they would have announced it by now and Wheeler would be playing in our system, like Sanchez was for the Pirates. I replied that that wasn’t a good comparison because Sanchez signed for (basically) slot, and therefore the Pirates had no issue with announcing the contract and getting Sanchez on the field. Whereas, the Giants have known almost since the day of the draft that they would most likely be giving Wheeler well over slot money, and so they wouldn’t be able to announce his deal until the very end. The only thing that would have allowed us to announce the Wheeler deal early was if one, or all 3, of the top 3 picks (Starsburg, Ackley, or Tate) would have announced before us (since they’re all going to be getting > $5M), or if somebody picked behind Wheeler had signed for more than Wheeler (like Turner, Matzek or Purke).
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
No, actually I was responding to rotoreuters comment about conventional wisdom that Wheeler wanted to sign cheaply and get to playing. That’s where the miscommunication came in. That said, there have been enough above slot deals announced the last week (including some real big above slots) that it seems doubtful that they have finalized anything. Looks like MLB’s approving everything they have in the office at this point. Something will happen in the last half hour or 10 minutes I imagine.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Sorry, I misunderstood your previous point with Sanchez. In rotoreuters defense, he did use the term “break the bank” which is not the same as “cheaply”. Wheeler will be cheap in comparison to the top bonuses of the past 2 years, but will still get at least $800K over slot, and a significantly higher than the 2 guys picked right before him.
In response to this:
…there have been enough above slot deals announced the last week (including some real big above slots) that it seems doubtful that they have finalized anything.
What you’re not realizing is that all of the announced above slot signings so far have been no where near the $3M and above mark. Tony Sanchez’s $2.5M is still the highest announced bonus. No team wants to be the first to announce a bonus in excess of $3M (I’m leaving Strasburg out of this disussion – he’s a totally different case). The first team that does is going to unleash a floodgate of other announcements. That’s why Wheeler, Tate, Turner, and Matzek are the keys to the 1st round. As soon as one of these guys is announced with a bonus in excess of $3M, all the other teams with big deals to announce will have legitimate cover in which to announce their own signings.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
What I’ve always read is that teams send the paperwork to MLB immediately and it’s there that the delay takes place, with MLB’s pique not approving the deal’s until the last possible moment (I suppose the thinking is that they’re preventing agents from working off other overslot precedents). You’re suggesting that teams don’t forward the paperwork to MLB out of fear of offending the league office but I don’t think that’s the case.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
I believe you’re referring to what happens with big $$$ bonus deals in the last day or 2 before the signing deadline. Teams definitely don’t wait until the last minute to send in their paperwork in those last couple of days if they have a contract and approved physical – and the MLB does most often sit on them under the guise of reviewing the paperwork for improprieties. However, except in rare cases, they can’t sit on them for much more than a few days. If they did the Player’s Union would be screaming collusion and suing for 100’s of millions of $$$ – and they’d win easily since that would be a clear case of artificial manipulation to keep everybody’s bonuses down.
The team owner’s know this, so, in order to take some heat off the MLB front office, what they often do with big bonus deals is to delay submitting them even if they have most of the terms of the contract agreed upon. They do this in several ways. The most popular ones are waiting until very near the deadline to get the required physical done, or by haggling over the last $100K or so until very near the deadline.
Finally, they don’t do this out of fear of offending the league office. They do it because they don’t want to be branded by their fellow owners as renegades, and chewed out at the next owner’s meeting. The owners put the slotting system in place as a means of trying to keep costs down for all teams, and thus increase profits, and to keep the playing field level for the small-, and mid-, market teams.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
The owners don’t care about the slotting system, which is why the owners flaunt it repeatedly. The slotting system is entirely the creation of Bud Selig’s office and he’s the only one who is invested in it (and in truth, if it ever were followed it would almost certainly necessitate the filing of a grievance since an unbargained unilaterally imposed salary system is so clearly illegal). Nor, pretty clearly, do owners have any concern for level playing fields for smaller teams. I say again, the only reason I’ve ever read for large overslot contracts being announced late is that MLB delays approving them. As no contract or trade is official until approved by MLB teams are prohibited from announcing anything is done before that.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
“The owners don’t care about the slotting system”
I disagree a little bit. I think the owners do care about the slotting system to a degree – they at least recognize it’s an attempt to give teams leverage and keep their expenses down. They just don’t care about it enough to give up the competitive advantage of paying above slot money. I think Fla-Giant has a strong argument…
by Missing Barry on Aug 17, 2009 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions
You’re right that the big-market teams don’t care about a level playing field, but they still have to pay lip service to it to some extent, because there are way more small-, and mid-, market teams than big-market. The way they pay lip-service is by waiting until the last minute to submit their deals so they can claim that the player was holding a gun to their head.
You’re wrong about the owners not caring about the slotting system. They all want a system that would be ironclad, in order to keep costs down, and take a lot of the power away from the kids and their agents. The problem they run into now is that the system has no way to penalize owners that go over slot. Therefore, just about all the owners go over slot, because they know eventually others will do the same and they have to compete. I believe that they’ll get an agreement on this during the next bargaining period, because the veteran players are getting fed up with all the money flowing to these unproven rookies. I think they’ll end up with a deal like the NBA has.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Posey had much more leverage than Wheeler
1. Posey was a postion player coming off (arguably) the best season of any amateur player in the country. Wheeler wasn’t even the highest ranked HS pitcher.
2. Posey was projected to be as high as a #1 pick, but fell due to bonus demands. Wheeler was never projected higher than #5, and he actually rose up the board due to his smaller bonus demands (just like Sanchez and Hobgood).
3. Posey had the option of returning for his senior year or playing in an independent league (like JD Drew), and as a position player the odds of injury and slumping are much lower than for a pitcher. Wheeler won’t be able to go back into the draft until 2012 (unless he goes to a JUCO program), and as a pitcher the odds of him ever being drafted as high as #5 again are astronomical – and that’s before taking injuries into account.
4. Last year the players signed before the economic collapse. This year teams are much more frugal because of alarming drops in income.
5. Last year most of the first 9 picks signed for huge bonuses, so Posey bonus wasn’t bucking a trend. This year Wheeler has a huge problem because the 2 guys picked in front of him at #4 and #5 have already signed for $2.5M or less (and Hobgood is a HS pitcher too), and the 2 guys directly behind him (which includes Mike Leake) have both signed for less than $2.5M, so the trend has been set.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
by Fla-Giant on Aug 16, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Posey was #5, not #6.
Not that that’s a huge numerical difference, mind you.
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Yes, of course, he was. My bad. I’d still use that number as a guide were I Wheeler’s agent. And, I should say, I definitely expect him to be signed, but for more in the $5mil something range than at the $3 mil range.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
The Giants may also have verbally talked to Wheeler ahead of time, and the situation was basically Wheeler wasn’t going to get picked top 10 by anyone other than the Giants so the Giants only took him if he agreed not to ask for Top 10 money. Essentially the concept is they agree to offer him fair market value (which is over slot) for where he was projected to get picked, assuming that is lower than they actually picked him. Obviously I do not know if anything like this happened, but it does happen so it’s a possibility.
by Missing Barry on Aug 16, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Not true, the Braves were almost certainly going to take him with the next pick had the Giants not drafted him.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Not sure where all the definitive statements are coming from. I was simply speculating on a situation that does happen at times in baseball, and even acknowledged that I have no idea if it happened here. We don’t know if the Braves would have taken him or not for sure, but all I know is I didn’t see a whole lot of places Wheeler was ranked a Top 10 prospect. For all we know the Braves and Giants were both trying to play the scenario that way…
by Missing Barry on Aug 16, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
He was pretty heavily considered by the Orioles with the fifth pick, and the Braves definitely wanted him if he fell to the seventh pick.
Oh you mean by the Orioles who were looking for a guy who could be signed pretty close to slot, if who they picked is any indication…?
by Missing Barry on Aug 16, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
If you were Wheeler’s agent, he’d be spending the next three years at Kennesaw State and the Giants would have two 1st rounders next year.
I’ll be shocked if the price tag exceeds 4 million. It’s not my money, so I won’t be upset but I will be surprised.
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Aug 16, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
I doubt that’s true — the Giants have the money to spend, have shown a great willingness to spend lots of money on amateur players in the last three years, and definitely as they’re trying to build their organization don’t want to lose the top player in this draft. There’s no reason not to get the deal done at that level. However, I’d certainly tell Wheeler to be ok with it if it played out that way. College isn’t a bad alternative.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
This year the Giants have been very frugal. Even their over slots have been much less than what some other teams are throwing around. Thier largest 2 payouts so far are $712.5K (only $59K over slot) and $500K ($350K – or 233% – over slot).
You’re also wrong about this statement:
College isn’t a bad alternative.
College is a very bad alternative for Wheeler. He would have to wait 3 years before going back into the draft if he goes to Kennesaw State. The odds of him still being a top 6 pick 3 years from now are astronomically high. Hell, the odds of him remaining healthy in those 3 years are incredibly high. Just check out the history of highly-drafted HS pitchers after 3 years in the minor leagues (where they’re treated with kid gloves compared to college) – it’s not pretty. If the offer is anything more than $3M then he should take it and run to the bank.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Good catch
LOL. Yeah, I meant to write “the odds against him” instead of “the odds of him”.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Thank you, Fla-Giant.
Couldn’t agree more. If Wheeler was commited to Georgia, Georgia Tech or one of the big time programs I’d be more concerned.
IMO there are very few people on this planet that would turn down 3.5 – 4 million to pitch at Kennesaw State for 2 years (I believe Wheeler’s old enough to be eligible for the draft in 2011.)
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Aug 17, 2009 5:37 AM PDT up reply actions
You might not have heard of Kennesaw State, but strictly on college baseball terms, it is a much better program than I think you assume it is.
by Missing Barry on Aug 17, 2009 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions
You're right
Wheeler was born in May 1990, so he’ll be 21 within 45 days of the 2011 draft – making him eligible 1 year ahead of most of the others in his college class.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
I was just thinking a couple of days ago how impressed I was about the lack of freaking out over draft signings around here this year (as opposed to last year when people were freaking the fuck out over the possibility of Posey shunning the Giants multimillion dollar offer to go back to Florida St. and somebody even suggested that the Giants calling up Sandoval might be a sign that negotiations with Posey were not going well)
by FluLikeSymptoms on Aug 16, 2009 10:47 AM PDT reply actions
I think people are just reacting to the difference in pre-draft rumors. Last year there were many rumors before and after the draft that Buster was asking for $8-10M. Meanwhile, this year almost 100% of all rumors before the draft were that we picked Wheeler over guys like Matzek and Turner, because of his “signability”. In other words, the front office knew basically what he was aking for in terms of a signing bonus and they had no problems with it. So, most informed Giants fans have felt this was a done deal for months now.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Jonathan Mayo Update
HS pitcher #mlbdraft update: Wheeler/Giants less than a million apart; Matzek/Rockies and Purke/Rangers much further apart than that.
Interesting if true about Purke. It seemed like he was drafted higher than expected, so you’d think he’d be easier to sign. Maybe I’m misremembering, though.
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Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
Even if he doesn't sign
A high pick in the ’10 draft is not a bad thing.
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 17, 2009 9:02 AM PDT reply actions
next year’s crop is widely considered to be weaker than this year’s, although for a top 10 pick I don’t think there should be much differences.
I have to think there is a deal already in place though and all this negotiation business is for show only. They couldn’t have traded both alderson and barnes away if they are not sure about wheeler. If there was one thing the Red Sox season has shown (and the Marlins, and the reds, and the Rangers, and the dodgers, and the Phillies, and to an extent, the Giants) is that you cannot have enough pitching. There is no such thing as too much pitching depth.
It seems like every year scout say the current year’s class is worse than the previous.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
scoutS, I meant. Plural.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
Well the Nationals could conceivably end up with both strasburg and harper next year, if they give him permission to draft him again.
lol
Actually, they can't draft Strasburg
Just like they couldn’t draft Crow this year, the Nats can’t draft Strasburg in 2010 if they fail to sign him this year.
The funniest part is that Strasburg would be the #3 pick next season. I’d love to see the Royals offer him slot for that spot next year.
Yes, they could draft Strasburg again — but only if he signs the paperwork consenting to it before hand.
by Dan from NM on Aug 17, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
They can draft Strasburg if he gives his permission. Crow didn’t give his permission, but if he had, they would have been able to draft him again.
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
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Actually I don’t think the Nats asked for Crow’s permission. Had they, he’d have been a fool not to agree, given he fell past both their picks. The Hendricks Bros. are gonna end up costing that kid millions.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
if we could get a top ten pick in the 2001 draft then that would be a good trade
by FluLikeSymptoms on Aug 17, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
2011 draft I mean. Jesus, I can’t type
by FluLikeSymptoms on Aug 17, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Ugh. The Jacob Turner signing worries me. It’s the only scenario where I could see Wheeler not signing.
All of a sudden a comparable kid got $2M more than you’re probably going to get. More importantly it’s done with an hour left, which means the opportunity to come up to $4 million or whatever is much less easy than it would be if he blew through the slot yesterday.
Wheeler gets $3.3M
I was very close with my $3M prediciton earlier.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/?p=1714
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Kudos to Bobby Evans and his boys
I think they did the best job of any team in signing top-flight talent at very reasonable prices. Especially in comparison to other teams that went hog-wild like the Pads, Tigers, and Yanks. They got Wheeler for almost half of what the Pads paid Tate and the Tigers gave Turner – the 2 HS draftees comparable to Wheeler. They also paid only $400K more than what the Cards gave Shelby Miller another comparable HS pitcher who went at #19.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
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