minor lines, 8/14/09
Highlights from the Giants' farm, generally a good night for quite a few hitters but not the pitchers: (a,b,c) Brad Boyer, Francisco Peguero, and Andy D'Alessio each had four hits; (d,e) Jesus Guzman and John Bowker also reached base four times each; (f) Nick Noonan had a couple XBH; (g,h,i) Chris Dominguez and catchers Johnny Monell and Hector Sanchez all homered in multi-hit performances; and (j) Mike Loree had one of his best starts of the season.
AAA: Fresno lost to Nashville 7-6
Fresno: 1B Jesus Guzman: 2 for 3, 2 BB
Fresno: LF John Bowker: 1 for 2, 2 BB, HBP
Fresno: RHP Kevin Pucetas: 5.0 IP, 8 H, 5 R, 5 ER, 0 BB, 5 K--1 WP
Fresno: RHP Osiris Matos: 1.0 IP, 1 H, 1 K
Fresno: LHP Alex Hinshaw: 0.2 IP, 2 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 1 K--1 HB
Batting fourth and fifth in the Grizzlies' lineup, Guzman and Bowker both reached base four times. Bowker further increased is league-leading OBP to .448, which is now more than double his .222 OBP in the majors this year.
Is Pucetas, one of the league leaders in innings pitched, tiring down the stretch? After a 3.73 ERA in eighteen starts prior to the all-star break, he has an ERA of 4.95 in six starts since. On the positive side, he issued no walks tonight after having issued at least two walks in his seven previous starts. This helped to get his K/BB back over 2.00. A scoreless inning for Matos maintained his sub-3.00 ERA. Hinshaw had been pitching more efficiently over the last couple weeks, but he threw just 14 of 30 pitches for strikes in this outing.
AA: Connecticut defeated Erie 6-5 (10 innings)
Connecticut: 2B Brock Bond: 2 for 5, 2B
Connecticut: 3B Brad Boyer: 4 for 5, 3B
Erie: 1B Ryan Strieby: 3 for 5, 3 2B
Connecticut: RHP Garrett Broshuis: 5.0 IP, 11 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 4 K
The red-hot Boyer had another big game, with four hits, including his 7th triple of the year, raising his AVG to .293. Bond has cooled off in August, tonight having just his second multi-hit line in his last ten games. After hitting .424 in 99 AB in July, his AVG is just .245 through 49 AB in August. I believe that BP's Kevin Goldstein considers Strieby one of the more underappreciated prospects in the game. BA rated him #12 in the Tigers' organization at the start of the year. After turning 24 years old this past Sunday while apparently on the DL, Strieby had three doubles tonight, improving his season line to .301/.417/.552 in 279 AB.
Broshuis has been hit hard over his last six starts, allowing 45 H, 10 BB, and 19 ER in 23.1 IP.
A+: San Jose defeated Stockton 5-3
San Jose: 2B Nick Noonan: 2 for 4, 2 2B, SO
San Jose: 3B Conor Gillaspie: 1 for 3, BB
San Jose: RHP Oliver Odle: 5.2 IP, 5 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 3 K--1 HR
San Jose: RHP Rafael Cova: 1.0 IP, 2 K--1 WP
Noonan's 19th and 20th doubles were two of the Giants' seven hits. Not only is Noonan's AVG .020 higher since the all-star break in comparison to before the break, but his IsoP is also .038 higher. Gillaspie was one of two other Giants to reach base twice.
Odle once again fell short of a quality start, although this start was still good enough to knock a few points off his ERA, which remains above 5.25. Cova struck out two of the four batters he faced in the 9th inning for his 2nd save.
A-: Augusta defeated Hagerstown 6-3
Augusta: CF Francisco Peguero: 4 for 5
Augusta: DH Andy D'Alessio: 4 for 4
Augusta: C Johnny Monell: 2 for 3, HR
Augusta: SS Ehire Adrianza: 1 for 3, 2B, BB
Augusta: RHP Mike Loree: 6.0 IP, 7 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 8 K--1 WP
Augusta: LHP Ryan Verdugo: 0.2 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 1 K--2 WP
Augusta: RHP Edwin Quirarte: 1.0 IP, 1 H
With four hits each, Peguero and D'Alessio accounted for over half of the GreenJackets' fourteen hits. They raised their respective AVGs to .369 and .304. Monell had his 4th HR. Adrianza had his 14th double and drew the GreenJackets' only walk on the evening.
Loree had a season-high 8 K in his eighteenth start. Before tonight, he had allowed more than twice as many hits as strikeouts, but now his K/H ratio is back above 0.50. Verdugo, who was dominant through his first twelve appearances of the season and then allowed 3 BB in his thirteenth appearance a couple days ago, finally allowed his first run of the year tonight in his fourteenth appearance. Quirarte worked a scoreless inning.
ssA: Salem-Keizer defeated Spokane 4-1
Salem-Keizer: 1B Luke Anders: 3 for 4, 3B, CS
Salem-Keizer: 3B Chris Dominguez: 2 for 4, HR
Salem-Keizer: LHP Chris Gloor: 3.2 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 5 BB, 2 K--1 WP
Salem-Keizer: RHP Kyle Vazquez: 4.1 IP, 1 H, 2 BB< 5 K
Anders (32nd rounder) had three hits, including his first pro triple, to raise his AVG to .285. Dominguez (3rd rounder) finally had his first big fly of the month. After 7 HRs in 18 games in July, this was his first HR in 13 games in August.
Gloor (17th rounder), who entered the evening with a BB/IP below 0.33, issued five walks in his fourth start (and thirteenth appearance). His ERA crept up to 1.78. Vazquez (15th rounder) provided excellent long relief. He stranded both inherited runners and pitched 4.1 scoreless innings, which brought his ERA below 3.50.
R: Giants defeated Brewers 5-3
Scottsdale: 2B Nick Liles: 3 for 5
Scottsdale: C Hector Sanchez: 3 for 5, HR, SO
Scottsdale: RHP Jason Jarvis: 5.0 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 6 K
Scottsdale: RHP Shawn Sanford: 1.0 IP, 2 K
Liles (7th rounder) and Sanchez each had three hits, including Sanchez's first HR in the U.S., as they raised their respective AVGs to .319 and .307.
Jarvis, a late round pick a year ago who began the year with eight relief appearances, pitched much more effectively in his second start (1 ER in 5.0 IP) than in his first first (6 ER in 4.0 IP). He has had 6 K and 1 BB in both starts, though. Sanford (13th rounder) had 2 K in a perfect 9th inning for his 4th save.
DSL: Giants at Braves was postponed by rain
(Eight of sixteen DSL games were postponed by rain today.)
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I think the Great Velezbian Orgy of 2009 is nearing its end.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Yeah, don’t look now, but in his last four games he’s 2/16 with 2 strike outs, no walks, and 1 XBH. Of course, that’s only four games, but if we learned anything from said Great Velezbian Orgy, the last few games mean ten thousand times more than a player’s entire track record.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
I’ve done some research on Velez, and I think I know why he’s tailed off so badly. It started about the time I added him to my fantasy team. I’ll drop him this week, so he can get back to getting on base.
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Yeah, but isn't that the best line on the team over the past 4 games?
Still the loving, adoptive father of Hector Sanchez. And who doesn't love switch-hitting catchers with power and patience?
Oh no, the Giants lineup doesn’t need Bowkermania. Clearly.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 14, 2009 11:06 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I know this isn’t surprising, since he’s a non-elite prospect who skipped a level and is pitching in a hitters’ league but Pucetas hasn’t been all that great this year. His homer rate has more than doubled and his K/BB rate has been cut in half compared to last year.
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Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
He also jumped two levels. I think, given his rather mediocre stuff, he’s done rather well in an extreme pitcher’s league. He’ll probably repeat Fresno next year, and I’ll bet we’ll see some improvement.
Still the loving, adoptive father of Hector Sanchez. And who doesn't love switch-hitting catchers with power and patience?
Wow. Is he from Arizona? Maybe he can get some ABs in the AZL.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
SWEET!
Then he should be able to get some ABs in the AZL.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.
I'm sure there's a reason
that Guzman, Bowker, and Frandsen aren’t starting for the big club, but I’d sure like to know what it is. Maybe they shouldn’t start EVERY DAY, but WTF. Scott and Rent have been beyond horrible.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
Well Guzman isn’t starting as he isn’t as good a player as the two 1B we have on the roster (Garko & Ishikawa). Frandsen isn’t starting as he isn’t as good a player as the starting 2B (Sanchez) or our utility player (Uribe). You could argue that he should be on the roster with Renteria on the DL though. Bowker isn’t on the roster as he’s got options unlike the other outfielders and so it wouldn’t make sense to lose them for the (probably marginal if any over 1/2 month) upgrade.
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As an additional note, it’s easy to over-rate players who put up a pretty line in Fresno but it’s worth noting that Guzman’s MLE OPS is lower than than the OPS Ishikawa has put up and Frandsen’s MLE OPS is in the mid 600’s.
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Bowker’s MLE is excellent, and he wouldn’t have to meet it to be better than anyone but Panda. Of course the BRASZSz decides that 33 AB tell us more. Uh huh.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 15, 2009 2:41 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
You’re right, which is why i didn’t mention him with regards to misleading Fresno stats. It’s the options situation that’s kept him down this year rather than a lack of performance though.
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It is not so much the SSS as the fact that he still obviously has a huge hole in his swing on off speed pitches down and inside and he could not stop himself from swinging at them, which major league pitchers throw effectively enough to get him out at a regular rate and I guess AAA pitchers are not as adept at throwing. That is why he is back in AAA.
If that’s the case though, the only way he’s going to fix those holes in his swing is if they are exposed, and he’s forced to change them. If they’re not being exposed in Fresno, keeping him there does no good.
Exactly, and this idea that major-leaguers can throw that pitch at will while AAA pitchers are incapable of throwing it at all is a bit ridiculous.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 15, 2009 11:29 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
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Self reply – I feel obligated to add that he got 36 PA to prove himself.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 15, 2009 11:37 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
It could be just about scouting
I doubt AAA teams really have much of a scouting system, so it’s much easier to get away with holes in your swing.
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if we know bowker's got a hole in his swing
then i’m pretty sure AAA clubs are aware of it as well
We watch Bowker every day, and he’s on the only team we follow. AAA pitchers face hundreds of different hitters, on 8 (16?) different teams. That’s a huge difference.
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Except they have significant financial motivations to know these things and we’re just a bunch of psychos. They know.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.
What motivation do they have? Earning their AAA club a couple more wins? Nobody cares about that. Major league teams spend a tremendous amount of time and effort finding holes in opposing players’ swings, in order to help their pitchers. I don’t really see why AAA teams would bother to do that.
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Um, because those AAA pitchers are trying to make the majors?
Still the loving, adoptive father of Hector Sanchez. And who doesn't love switch-hitting catchers with power and patience?
Buster busted?
Haven’t seen Posey’s name in the box scores lately for Fresno. Injured?
I don’t know, but I hear Tommy Joseph signed.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Buster update
He was injured in a collision at homeplate and is still suffering from soreness in his side which he felt in a game where he went from first to third on a hit. He was taken out and put on the extended spring training roster because it enables Fresno to make a move without putting Posey on the DL and forcing him to miss 15 days. He should be back soon.
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BREAKING NEWS
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Aug 15, 2009 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Brett Pill's two RBIs last night...
gives him 92 on the season, the most of any Gaints farmhand at Dodd since the Mayor’s, Mike Cervenak’s 91 in 2003 and there is still three weeks left to play. Norwich franchise record is 100 by Donny Leon in 1999. Most RBIs in the Eastern League in the last five season was 101 by Erie’s Jeff Larish is 2007. And PIll wasn’t an EL All-Star??
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adopted parent of Bond, Brock Bond...
I wonder how flyonthewall feels about that.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
I’m sure you know – couldn’t be happier for Pill. He’s worked hard and excelled in a hitter-unfriendly park.
by flyonthewall on Aug 15, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Hey Greg
What’s the latest on the team staying/moving? What is the mood of the fans in the stands? I’m unable to post on your blog, so I’m left with asking you questions here – sorry.
Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005. And winner of the 2012 NL Fireman of the Year Award!
EL has imposed a gag rule and a $50,000 fine for...
anyone who is on the know and talks. August 1st was the latest deadline that has come and gone. My feeling and those of others is that it’s 99.999% done and the lawyers are crossing t’s and dotting i’s and the team will be in Richmond next season.But I have to admit for having a little grain of doubt remains in the back of my head that this could still fall apart givem the lease of the stadium down there, Diamond, long term plans for the Diamond and the economy in general.
Mood of the fans is pretty good—decent crowds, team in first place, playoffs in Sept for the first time since ‘02, fans living in the moment for the most part. Me, I’m stressing over the hope of a short season team next season in Dodd because : (a) it gets me out of the house, (b) I’d like to keep the blog going in some form and © I like minor league baseball (I’m spoiled on Double A however).
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adopted parent of Bond, Brock Bond...
Thanks!
Good info. I hadn’t heard/read about the gag rule, but that does explain some things. So the thought is a short-season league? Would that be better, weather-wise? Any NYP teams likely to want to move this off-season?
Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005. And winner of the 2012 NL Fireman of the Year Award!
Brett (92) and Roger K (93) neck and neck for organizational RBI lead. Any bets on which one first gets to 100? As much as I like Roger I think Pill will get there first.
In San Jose playing any games in Lancaster, High Desert, or Rancho Cucamonga soon? If so, I’d bet on Kieschnick.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 15, 2009 11:32 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I was wondering the same thing about several of our starting pitchers, Steve. It may be that several of our minor league starters are wearing down about this time.
Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005. And winner of the 2012 NL Fireman of the Year Award!
Maybe they should go to a 7-man rotation. I pitch on Mondays, you pitch on Tuesdays, He pitches on Wednesdays …….
Maybe they should just have one guy pitch every inning of every game. Then you could really see what he’s made of.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
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IRON MAN
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 15, 2009 12:59 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
My boy is quietly putting together a very nice season.
.851 OPS.
.385 wOBA.
K% = BB% = 12.4%.
Good boy!
Still the loving, adoptive father of Hector Sanchez. And who doesn't love switch-hitting catchers with power and patience?
Peguero is a hitting machine – San Jose next year. What to do with Charlie Culberson and Wendell Fairly – will they both start in Augusta again next year? Disappointing. Do Neal and Roger K move to AA or skip all the way to AAA? Where will EME play? Any future beyond AAA for Timpner, Horowitz, Copeland?
I feel for Horwitz. He puts up perfectly respectable numbers in AAA, but nonetheless numbers that aren’t good enough to warrant a promotion, even over Schierholtz.
I’ll always root for him though. Go Bears!
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 15, 2009 11:35 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I believe that Bowker, Frandsen and Velez will not be at Fresno next year. That being said, I think Bowker moving up or on will open up a spot for EME in Fresno. I don’t see any of Timpner, Horwitz or Copeland being anything more than a 5th OF or OF depth at AAA. I think Neal might jump to AAA next year, depending on the OF situation. I think Kieschnick will go to AA first.
Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!
by Speedforthewin on Aug 15, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Hey, has anyone else noticed Josh Phelps is back?
He played his third game in Arizona today (8/15)!
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