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Looking at team's by their run prevention -- defense (UZR) and pitching (FIP).

Spam it: http://www.baycityball.com/2009/08/14/friday-graph-defense-and-pitching/

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Also, how to read the graph.

Reading the Graph:

Upper-left Quadrant = Teams with above average defense and pitching. This is the most desirable quadrant to be in.
Upper-right Quadrant = Teams with above average defense, but below average pitching.
Lower-left Quadrant = Teams with below average defense, but above average pitching.
Lower-right Quadrant = Teams with below average defense and pitching. This is the least desirable quadrant to be in.

by xanthan on Aug 14, 2009 7:04 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Two surprises:

Giants have the best DEFENSE!! WUT!?

Braves have the best pithcing? On second thought they have a good staff

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Aug 14, 2009 7:15 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

A large portion of our defensive rating is from our OF, which has been very good this year.

by xanthan on Aug 14, 2009 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And re: Braves pitching

Check out their starters’ FIP

Vaszquez – 2.63
Jurrjens – 3.71
Lowe – 3.77
Hanson – 4.13
Kawakami – 4.58

There really isn’t a below average starter in the group.

by xanthan on Aug 14, 2009 7:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m guilty of ERAing them (I only see them play on TV against the Phils) and ERA is the only stat they ever use.

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Aug 14, 2009 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I honestly think that the Braves are going to be the team to really worry about in the WC. They are a much better team than the one they rolled out in the first half. Their bullpen kinda sucks, though.

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Aug 14, 2009 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s not really that suprising given that we’ve got some great defensive players (Ishikawa and the Outfielders) & don’t really have any bad defensive players.

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by GiantFan on Aug 14, 2009 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

2B has been pretty spotty this year, and now a constant dose of the Velezbian.

by jctGamer on Aug 14, 2009 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think that he’s mainly going to be an outfielder now that Uribe is healthy.

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Aug 14, 2009 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And I've noticed...

That Velez isn’t that horrible in LF so far.

Velez at 2B is a different story however.

by AmorVincitOmnia on Aug 15, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We've got a great combination

Of great OF defense (Winn/Schierhotlz/Rowand/Lewis/Torres/Velez cover as much ground as any OF out there), a large OF, and a flyball pitching staff. That’ll do wonders for your ERA (Mat Cain says hi).

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by Cookyman on Aug 14, 2009 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

/instinctively places right hand over ball (go ahead)
/left index finger on button

Wait, where’s the centipede?

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by ResDog on Aug 14, 2009 9:44 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

/sees what you did there.

by Natto on Aug 14, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Giants dot is far away from other dots. Giants dot is best.

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by leftymalo on Aug 14, 2009 10:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Question: Is the team UZR in this graph weighted in some way to reflect the number of balls hit to each position, or is it just weighted by innings played among all the defenders?

I’m just finding it hard to believe that a team that uses Edgar Renteria as its everyday shortstop could have the best defense in baseball (even if the outfield is best by a good margin).

by taliesin on Aug 14, 2009 11:59 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It’s total UZR based on total innings. Our OF has been great and our INF has been pretty good, too. Renteria was an average-ish defender by UZR the last I checked.

by xanthan on Aug 14, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s total runs saved. I don’t think Renteria is that bad. Ishikawa is fantastic, Sandoval has been fine at 3B, and we’ve generally had pretty OK defense at 2B, so overall that’s a pretty solid IF.

Solid IF defense + great OF defense + large OF + flyball pitching staff = great defense. If not the best in the majors, then definitely in top-5 in my opinion.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 14, 2009 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like to see a similar chart with OBP and SLG

On second thought, no I wouldn’t

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by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Aug 14, 2009 1:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

We wouldn’t have a dot on the graph

by Natto on Aug 14, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Numbers don’t go that low.

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by groug on Aug 14, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The D Back location surprises me a bit. Good Grief did Webb’s injury wreck their season or what.

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Aug 15, 2009 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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