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OT2: Pet Peeving

We already have a very cool off-day, off-topic thread going on, but I started thinking about posting this the other night so I'm not going to stop now.

This post is inspired by a conversation that happened here about grammar pet peeves. Now, not everybody is into grammar, so I'm not going specifically in that direction, but everybody loves to complain about stuff! Delicious, nonspecific stuff.

Star-divide

Unfortunately for you, the only starting off point that I have for this thread is that grammar stuff. So even though I want to open this up as blanket Pet Peeve thread, most of the examples I have come from over there.

So let's start. I'll go ahead and speak for some other people before I speak for myself.

For instance, one of Mayor of 311's biggest pet peeves is well documented: he HATES it when people mix up "then" and "than." And really, who can blame him? Than is comparative, and then is sequential. That's a big-ass difference!

thehavenot, on the other hand, hates there / their / they're and your / you're confusion. Also, eminently reasonable. I mean, this is taught daily in the third grade.

Skaldheim wants you to loose the extra o in that word. Because loose is it's own word, dammit.

But now I'm boring you. Probably because I'm not doing this in list form. So here's a list of some of mine. Even some non-language ones!

  1. When people refer to people as "that" instead of "who." Seriously.
  2. When somebody somehow believes that the best way to get onto the freeway is slow down to 35 in the merge lane. It's not better. In fact, it's an accident waiting to happen. It's always a bad idea to merge with traffic that is going 25 mph faster than you are. Stop it, goddammit! This is a honkable offense.
  3. When somebody on a sports discussion starts by telling me how long they've been a fan. First, that doesn't make you a better fan. Second, that doesn't make you smart. Third, that doesn't change your wrong opinion from being wrong. In fact, when you say this I immediately assume that youre opinion is wrong.
  4. People who try to complain to me about having to wait for service while waiting in line for something. You know what? I don't commisserate. The service person is doing the best they can to appease assholes like you, and it's not easy.
  5. NFL announcers.

That's it for now. It always happens that when I start to list something I've been thinking about, I suddenly forget everything I wanted to put in the list. In fact, that's another pet peeve of mine!

So you, then. What gets your goat?

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Idiots on cell phones / texting (putting on make-up, reading the paper, knitting etc) while driving.

by Merope on Aug 13, 2009 6:21 PM PDT reply actions  

God damn I hate that too!

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I get you’re probably just being funny, but it really is a major road hazard and I’m glad it’s being treated as one.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know what is a major road hazard?

Distracted drivers who can’t properly manage paying attention to their driving and any other activities. Whether it be talking on a cell phone, eating a hamburger, or fiddling around in the back seat trying to pick up the pacifier their kid just spit out – it’s being distracted that is a road hazard, not the method of distraction.

Why don’t we just ban THOSE people from driving, and let the rest of us who can drive talking on a phone w/o incident go about our adult lives?

And I’d also like to know how the position of my hand improves my attention while driving and talking on the phone. I’m not sure why having it next to my ear or down my pants with a headset on somehow makes my conversation less distracting.

I wonder if it counts as a hands-free device if I rubber band my phone to the side of my head? Or hold it between my shoulder and ear? Look officer, No hands – I can prove it by flipping you off w/ both fingers!

by FairweatherFan on Aug 13, 2009 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Having your phone up to your ear does a lot of things. It restricts your head movement. It slightly changes the angle of your head. It also requires motor focus, because you’re not holding your hand up there passively.

I do agree that being distracted is the key, and not the method of distraction. I absolutely disagree the idea that even though a particular distraction has proven difficult enough to manage for enough people for it to be a regular hazard, that it should be allowed because you happen to be good at it. That’s self-righteous, and I think it’s a load of crap.

I happen to be really good at driving 120 mph. They should totally let everybody do it now!

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not everyone

Just me.

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by marcello on Aug 13, 2009 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can think of a list of about 1000 things

That are just as distracting to drivers as holding a phone to their ear. Should we start drafting the legislation?

No adjusting your radio.
No getting a CD out of the glove box
No interacting w/ people in the back seat
No getting your wallet out of your pocket
No eating/drinking
No trying to find that quarter that fell between the seats before you get to the toll booth
No rolling down the pass side window from the driver side
No picking your nose
No scratching your ass
Need I go on?

I’ve got an idea – how about we start punishing people for their actions when they actually cause something to happen – and then let people make their own decisions about what they are/aren’t capable of safely doing?

I’m all in favor of severe penalties for drivers who are found to have been “inappropriately” using a cell phone or engaging in other distracted behavior and thus causing an accident.

But if you run around making everything that “Might” cause something to happen illegal, you are simply forcing everyone to conform to the capacity of the lowest common denominator.

by FairweatherFan on Aug 13, 2009 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve got an idea – how about we start punishing people for their actions when they actually cause something to happen – and then let people make their own decisions about what they are/aren’t capable of safely doing?

I’d rather be proactive about traffic accidents. Cars are weapons, and I am of the mind that the ability of a person to fuck up while using them should be limited.

I know what you’re saying and I’m not saying there aren’t problems or hypocrisy. There are. But one thing being difficult to deal with doesn’t mean that you should therefore not deal with similar issues.

Here’s the thing about driving with your phone to ear: it’s visible and it’s prolonged. It’s something that you actually can catch people doing.

Fiddling with your radio is just as distracting, yes, but it takes like two seconds and would be almost impossible to enforce. Getting something out of the glove box, taking out your wallet, reaching for a quarter, and things like that are all similar. It’s not that they’re NOT distracting to drivers. It’s that there’s no practical way to head them off.

The other issue is the scope of law to begin with. You can’t write in 200 individual laws to stop people from doing 200 different stupid things while they drive. You have to be practical. Like I said, talking on your phone is 1) visible, and 2) prolonged. The prologed thing is a huge problem. There’s a big difference between being distracted for a fe seconds while you turn off the Razor and Mr. T, and being distracted for 25 minutes while your arm falls asleep.

The other issue is that a lot of cars are actually, you know, manual transmissions. You kind of need two hands to drive those.

And in terms of making everybody conform to the lowest common denominator… I understand completely that if I’m driving next to you on the road, you’re not going to hit me by doing something stupid. But if the LCD is driving next to me, it doesn’t matter HOW carefully I’M talking on cell phone.

I mean, we can make it legal to run through a red light if teh coast is clear, because good drivers wouldn’t push their luck.

I just don’t see the point in being so offended by laws that are designed to keep other people from engangering your life and property, just because you wouldn’t be stupid enough to endanger somebody else’s.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

So as far you’re concerned, drunk driving should be legal?

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 13, 2009 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

why so sad?

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by merkin on Aug 13, 2009 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

People speed all the time, though. In fact, YOU speed. Is 120 that much worse than 80?

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by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m actually no good at driving 120. I was exaggerating to make my point. People do speed all the time, and when it’s uniform it doesn’t pose a significant hazard, which is why they don’t pull you over for “speed of traffic” (most of the time). That doesn’t mean that the speed limit should actually BE 80 mph, though.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

It works in Germany

The Autobahn has a better safety record than our highways.

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by Bhaakon on Aug 13, 2009 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

sample size

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by merkin on Aug 13, 2009 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

It works in Germany because there are some fricking stiff penalties for people who follow too closely, slower drivers that don’t get over, and cell phone users, among other things.

I know that’s true I saw it on Top Gear!!

by Merope on Aug 13, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

They have a weird system

There’s also absolutely nothing that prevents you from getting on the U-Ban without paying. No cameras, no employees who look at you, no machines where you’re supposed to insert your card – nothing. You could take the train everyday for a month without paying once and absolutely no one will notice. Except once every 4 months or something they send someone to check everyone for cards, and if they find out you didn’t pay, they send you to jail for 7 years, repossess all your stuff, and rape your cat.

And it works, apparently.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 13, 2009 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmm

I’ve never taken it.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 13, 2009 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Other than the underground lines

It’s basically one big honor system, unless an officer happens to be on the train and calls for tickets.

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by Bhaakon on Aug 13, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well in the U-Ban it’s like that with the underground lines too. So there.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

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by Cookyman on Aug 13, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

It also works in Germany because the driving test isn’t a joke there. You actually have to know how to drive well to pass the test there, as well as being able to read the street signs while moving. Its not a ten minute joke like most of us could have take the first day we got our permit

by m34josh on Aug 14, 2009 1:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know you were exaggerating

Don’t exaggerate if you don’t want it used against you, though.

Although, looking back over that exchange, I’m not sure what my point is…

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by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, that's incorrect, according to fMRI.

Functional MRI tests that read brain activity while doing different things suggests that talking on the phone while driving actually uses more & different parts of the brain than just talking with the person in the car with you. It actually isn’t the same thing; it literally incapacitates parts of the brain from focusing on driving in a necessary manner. Even if that functional distraction only adds a half-second to reaction time, a half a second is a very long time in reactions. If you were just talking with the person in the car with you, that wouldn’t be the case, evidently.

All distractions are not the same.

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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 13, 2009 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

All distractions are not the same

However, don’t give too much credence to fMRI studies. There’s a lot of discussion in the neuroscience community about misuse and misperception of fMRI data in the popular media. In fact, that’s a good pet peeve for someone like myself. While there certainly are good and beneficial studies using fMRI, I doubt these would pass muster. You cannot scan someone while driving, nor realistically compare cell-phone conversations to face-to-face conversations with fMRI. I don’t know how a study like this would be done, but it sounds like junk science.

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by neurofarm on Aug 13, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Could well be junkish science.

And you are right to put out the orange warning cone on stuff like this. I cherrypick it because it seems intuitively sensible to me (and also based on my own experience, the strongest heuristic we all have).

But my opponent won’t tell you HE is cherrypicking. I just did. Vote for Mayor.

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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 13, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I already voted 5 times. I would have voted more, if not for that lousy confirmation code stuff.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right, and as someone reminded me… when you are on the phone with someone, they can’t see the cement mixer barreling down on you, the passenger in the seat next to you could. A passenger has an element of self preservation to it that a cell phone doesn’t.

by Merope on Aug 14, 2009 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is true, and fairweatherfan has totally politicized this issue. There’s research on this and talking on the phone does need to be banned, Flat out.

by FreshStart on Aug 14, 2009 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel that I'm quite a competent driver while on my cell phone

So I will continue to use it. I am able to split my focus well. (Most people can’t, though_

Texting, on the other hand…

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
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by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

But a headset is barely even an inconvenience. If you can afford a car and a cell phone, certainly you can chuck out $30 bucks for something, even if for you it amounts to little more than not-getting-pulled-over-protection.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I did something redundant there and I apologize to everyone.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

How much are headsets?

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by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, I’ve seen some pretty decent ones going in the $60 range, so I assume you can get them cheaper than that. Mine is a pretty damn good one, and I got it for $70.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

That’s way too expensive for me, right now.

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

And actually, I see how what I said above is pretty dickish. I know perfectly well that money isn’t exactly a luxury.

But you can’t really afford a moving violation either. That was my larger point. I didn’t mean to be a dick about it.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Which is why I am always watching for cops when talking on the phone.

And, no, that doesn’t mean I’m dividing my attention even more because one should always be completely aware of everything around while driving.

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where?

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
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by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

www.woot.com
They often sell them as the deal of the day. You can also find one if you just poke around the right places like Slick Dealsor Ben’s Bargains.

by Natto on Aug 13, 2009 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you, fine sir

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by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I also got one for $10 or $15 from Best Buy. It’s wired, but whatever.

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by Viliphied on Aug 13, 2009 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I read somewhere though that headsets don’t really help, people are still distracted. I can’t remember who did the study… Triple A maybe?

by Merope on Aug 13, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve heard that, but I’m not sure how comprehensive it was. I got the impression they were just talking about how much mental focus somebody diverts to communication, but didn’t really account for things like not being able to change gears or cocking your head all the time.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

And just to reiterate, I don’t know the details of the study. That was just the impression that I got.

I’m still perfectly in favor of making efforts to limit dangerous driving habits.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Details/Reports from Studies
Citation Source 1 Citation Source 2 Citation Source 3

I don’t wear a tinfoil hat, but I have heard that wireless phone service providers do not want these type of studies conducted.

They often develop “alternate” studies and reports compiled to refute the fact that talking on a phhone in any way while driving is nearly as dangerous as driving under the influence.

Personally, I think it is the skill of the driver that is more important.

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by nvsfg on Aug 14, 2009 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Triple A Stats don’t matter

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by merkin on Aug 13, 2009 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

ba DUM pum, tshhhh!

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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 13, 2009 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Perfectly executed!

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by jhiat00 on Aug 14, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Now, not everybody is into grammar,

That’s the understatement of the year…

by FairweatherFan on Aug 13, 2009 6:30 PM PDT reply actions  

I have about a million driving related ones

But one of my biggest ones is when I get stuck in traffic for 30 minutes, parked on the freeway only to emerge to NOTHING. No accident, No construction, No meaningful change in road state.

OMG PEOPLE IT"S AN OVERPASS> BETTER SLAM ON YOUR FUCKING BRAKES REALLY FAST< THEN REALIZE IT"S JUST AN OVERPASS AND SPEED BACK UP – NOT CARING THAT EVERY SEQUENTIAL DRIVER BEHIND YOU THEN ;) HAS TO HIT THEIR BRAKES JUST A LITTLE LONGER TO REACT TO YOU RESULTING IN TRAFFIC EVENTUALLY STOPPING! Jesus Christ – just keep driving the same speed you were everyone, it’s gonna be okay.

by FairweatherFan on Aug 13, 2009 6:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh jesus, that reminds me

I get PISSED when traffic is going 65 where the speed limit is 65, and then a CHP gets on the freeway and EVERYBODY slows to 55. You can’t get pulled over for speeding when you’re driving the speed limit!

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

You obviously arent black/young/drive a hotrod/etc.
You can’t get pulled over for speeding when you’re driving the speed limit!

by FairweatherFan on Aug 13, 2009 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

technically

you can still be ticketed if the conditions are bad enough- heavy fog, rain, sleet, etc.

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by natteringnabob on Aug 13, 2009 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Basic speed law.

It’s a bitch.

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by icanplaythird on Aug 13, 2009 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, I’m young, at least.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

But CHP is hella scary man.

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by SeeingStars on Aug 13, 2009 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

They get all antsy in thier pantsy when they start chugging that syrup

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by jhiat00 on Aug 14, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

tangent

With the 20th anniversary of the Dravecky comeback, I went looking for my ticket stub
Was not able to find it, but was able to find the moving violation I received on the way to the game.
I was not using my cell phone at the time…..in 1989

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by merkin on Aug 13, 2009 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

at least you were driving without a license

no way they could track you down! James bonderiffic

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by natteringnabob on Aug 13, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

No this , no that , no nothing.

Take off the superintelligent hat NOW.

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by victor frankenstein on Aug 14, 2009 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

when you are a juvenile you can get away with murder….ok, maybe not MURDER but at least infractions

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by merkin on Aug 14, 2009 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I got a parking ticket last month

For “no parking various hours” and the sign posted on the street said “No Parking, Friday 11am-2pm”
I received the ticket on a Wednesday….. I contested it via mail and haven’t heard anything yet.

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by FriscoJoe on Aug 14, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

If you're in SF and get rejected in your appeal by mail (quite likely), get in touch with me.

I have developed quite the hobby in fighting parking tickets. (Stay thirsty, my friends.)

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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 14, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

My driving pet peeve is when someone is making a left turn on a plain green light (no arrow) and DOESN’T USE THEIR DAMN BLINKER. That’s what it’s there for, people. We could have both turned left by now, but you had to just sit there like a jackass.

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by neurofarm on Aug 13, 2009 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because I'm signalling left they're going to stop coming at me?

You’ve never been to Arizona , have you?

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by victor frankenstein on Aug 14, 2009 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

I took that to mean when you are across from someone at an intersection and you want to turn left but the doofus across from you isn’t going anywhere, and also isn’t signaling. There is a stop sign in our neighborhood (Northrop & Morse) where you see that kind of thing on a regular basis.

by Merope on Aug 14, 2009 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that’s what I meant. That happened all the time at an intersection by where I used to live.

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by neurofarm on Aug 14, 2009 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I may be wrong...

…but from what I saw there are NO left turn lanes in Albuquerque…you just slow down , stop , wait , ignore (the yelling from the out – of – towners)

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by victor frankenstein on Aug 14, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

IIRC

and maybe i’m messing this up, but that there are left turn lanes complete w/ left turn green arrows.

However, that is NOT a protected turn, IE you still have to negotiate oncoming traffic.

If you are used to CA style protected left turns signified by a green arrow (as we were) and do not know this you can make a potentially deadly mistake.

by FairweatherFan on Aug 14, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is that really a CA thing? Berkeley has a couple of interesections with a green arrow that isn’t protected, IIRC.

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by oldjacket on Aug 14, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think you’re remembering correctly.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do not believe this is the case

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by groug on Aug 14, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah, Davis Causeway Syndrome.

“Does everyone slow down becuase we’re higher now?”

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Aug 14, 2009 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously, WTF is up with that?

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by Merope on Aug 14, 2009 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

"I'm not saying, I'm just saying"

I don’t know how or why that particular crap entered the mainstream lexicon, but FUCKING STOP ALREADY. It is stupid and doesn’t mean anything.

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 13, 2009 6:40 PM PDT reply actions  

lol

You called Grant a moron

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by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

“It is what it is.”

Ugh, please, just stop.

by Merope on Aug 13, 2009 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

This one

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
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by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

“The fact of the matter is…”

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by Giant among Angels on Aug 13, 2009 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate that tautology.

But I do find myself on occasions saying, “and that is that”.

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by neurofarm on Aug 13, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s accurate because it’s true.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes it does

we had a discussion about it a while back. It boils down to “I’m not saying that this situation is an exact analog, I’m just saying that it’s kind of similar.” Ex: “Bill Hahn has black hair and a mustache. You know who else had black hair and a mustache? Stalin. I’m not saying, I’m just saying.”

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by Viliphied on Aug 14, 2009 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

"I’m not saying that this situation is an exact analog, I’m just saying that it’s kind of similar." Ex: "Bill Hahn has black hair and a mustache. You know who else had black hair and a mustache? Stalin. I’m not saying, I’m just saying."

In your example, the crossed out section is entirely unnecessary. You already made your point with your first sentence.
And I disagree with your general point. You either are saying something or you are not.

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 14, 2009 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

ok, how about

A: Bill Hahn has black hair and a mustache. You know who else had black hair and a mustache? Stalin.
B: You think Bill Hahn is as bad as Stalin!?
A: Hey man, I’m not saying, I’m just saying.

and you’re right, I’m NOT saying that Bill Hahn is as bad as Stalin. I’m JUST saying they both had black hair and mustaches. Draw what conclusions you will.

In other words, just like I said, I’m not saying A is B, I’m just saying they share some traits.

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by Viliphied on Aug 14, 2009 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

B is an entirely invalid response to A. If someone said B to me after I said A, I would ask them if they knew how to read. What I wouldn’t do is use sentence fragments separated by a comma to further muddle my point.

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 14, 2009 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

well, it's just a stupid example

designed mostly as a tie in to the woes off this past series, but people infer things like B from statements like A all the time. See: American political discourse since at least the late 70s / early 80s.

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by Viliphied on Aug 14, 2009 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I disagree, it’s a perfectly self explanatory statement that needs no further interpretation.

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by ResDog on Aug 14, 2009 6:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bob is eating fewer calories. Bob is eating less fat.

See the difference? Most people don’t.

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by rotorueter on Aug 13, 2009 6:56 PM PDT reply actions  

This one is HUGE for me

I’d say 90% of people do not understand the fundamental relationship between Carbs/Protien/Fat, Calories, and weight loss/gain.

“LOW FAT” is fucking pointless if the stuff is loaded down w/ high fructose corn syrup.

by FairweatherFan on Aug 13, 2009 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

i'm loving this fat free maple syrup

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by merkin on Aug 13, 2009 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that’s always a good one.
“Raisins, a low fat food!”
“Peanuts, low in sugar!”

by Merope on Aug 13, 2009 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm! Snackwells! Delicious and nutritious!

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by SF Pete on Aug 13, 2009 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL Actually, I was merely using those two sentences as an example of poor grammar.

I have less M&Ms, for example, is incorrect.

But I agree with your point, too.

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by rotorueter on Aug 13, 2009 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it’s funny that it’s ‘10 Items or Less’ in grocery stores.

by xanthan on Aug 13, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Frankly, I hate lite/light/etc food in general.

It tastes like crap and, 95% of the time, it isn’t really any better for you. If you want to eat a fatty food that tastes good, just eat the damn fatty food that tastes good. Every single time I eat some “light” food, I end up dissappointed, and it makes me want the real thing even more.

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by Bhaakon on Aug 13, 2009 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I generally agree

But Coke Zero is damn good.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 13, 2009 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

/me takes a sip from his bottle of Zero

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by merkin on Aug 13, 2009 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

/raises ice cold can of Zero

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 13, 2009 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just came from Raleys
24 packs for $7
Sold out of Zero, but have every other Coke product still

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by merkin on Aug 13, 2009 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Very nice. I know the Coke will travel, but I’m trying to shed as much extra stuff as possible in preparation of le move.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 13, 2009 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Coke Zero > most Cokes in America

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

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by baetown415 on Aug 13, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not better than Mexican Coke (Coca-Cola) however .

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by nvsfg on Aug 14, 2009 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think that’s why he qualified it with “in America”.

by Natto on Aug 14, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes he did. Would you please ban me now.

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by nvsfg on Aug 14, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mexico is in America

I’m not Canadian or anything, but this is a pet peeve of mine. The U.S. is only one American country.

by toofruss on Aug 14, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, I feel the same way as you do. That’s why I always use US or the States instead of America.

by Natto on Aug 14, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

North American country. :P

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by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is America

So speak American dammit!

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by merkin on Aug 14, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for narrowing it down!

by toofruss on Aug 14, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

this rule is my pet peeve. It doesn’t apply to time or money, which is more than half of the situations where you are using countable objects.

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by oldjacket on Aug 14, 2009 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bitching About Grammar!

When you are listening as opposed to reading does the speaker have to spell out for you “there”, “their”, or “they.re” for you to know which one they mean or are you smart enough to figure it out by the context. If you can figure this out when listening then why can’t you do the same when reading?

by giantsrainman on Aug 13, 2009 6:59 PM PDT reply actions  

I can't handle when someone asks how I am doing.

“I am doing good” is normal, wrong, and sounds bad.
“I am doing well” is not normal, correct, and sounds pompous.

Solution?
I usually settle for “not doing to badly” which is correct and doesn’t sound pompous

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by merkin on Aug 13, 2009 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

i see at least 2 mistakes in that post, and I am coping very welly

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by merkin on Aug 13, 2009 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

damn you!!!

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by merkin on Aug 13, 2009 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

There’s no problem with starting a sentence with “and.”

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
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by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

There’s not at all. I do it all the time. Although I know why it can be irksome sometimes.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I tell my students all this all the time

And it’s my first example of why there are so many mistakes being passed around as correct speech: laziness.

Your third grade teacher told not to start a sentence with “but” and “and” simply because it is easier to do than to tell the students when it is appropriate and when it is not appropriate.

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by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks to my 3rd grade teacher

I have a problem starting any sentence with “And” and it leads to a lot of run on sentences, but I don’t care because I’m not the won reading it.

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by ResDog on Aug 14, 2009 6:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

People and cookies

Does that cookie taste well?
No , that cookie tastes good!

Are you doing good?
(Yes , while you’re under surveillance…)

No , you’re doing well!

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by victor frankenstein on Aug 14, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, there is in Hebrew, if anyone was wondering. Serial commas are unacceptable too – Hebrew is very strict with its “ands” for some reason. The English way is better.

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:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 13, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like it or not

Poor grammar makes a person appear unintelligent in both conversation and written text.

by FairweatherFan on Aug 13, 2009 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

but sometimes, one does not want to seem intelligent

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by merkin on Aug 13, 2009 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Frankly,

the opinions of people willing to make such an pompous judgement do not matter to me.

by giantsrainman on Aug 13, 2009 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am a self proclaimed super-genius and I try not to make the common man feel too small by appearing to belittle their grammar.

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by merkin on Aug 13, 2009 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well

Considering the opinions of others don’t matter to you, no matter what, that particular statement doesn’t mean anything.

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by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

dude, you just blew my MIND

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by merkin on Aug 13, 2009 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Merkin in supergenius hat

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by victor frankenstein on Aug 13, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

100% real photo

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by merkin on Aug 13, 2009 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's nice

Unfortunately in the real world the opinions of other people DO matter (work, school, family relationships etc)

If you send emails @ work the way you post on this forum, I’m pretty sure everyone you work with thinks less of you because of it. I know we have a few guys like that around here…

If that is the case, your lack of grammar, etc. is tangibly effect (affect? shit)ing your life.

It’s an easy thing to fix… just pay attention and work at it. I did.

by FairweatherFan on Aug 14, 2009 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Affecting

Yes!!! I know something.

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by marcello on Aug 14, 2009 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

9 times out of 10 (and probably more) “affect” is going to be a verb and “effect” is going to be a noun.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2009 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Poor grammar makes a person appear unintelligent in both conversation and written text.

Only to the discerning.

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by victor frankenstein on Aug 13, 2009 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Once again, your logic is broken

Because when I read “they’re”, I read they are (you know, the word that was written) and it fucks the sentence up if used incorrectly.

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by marcello on Aug 13, 2009 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because listening and reading are two different actions that require different forms of cognisance, recognition, reception, and interpretation. There is a big difference in brain function between interpreting visual stimuli and interpreting aural stimuli.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is that true?

Reading silently is a very modern phenomena. Until the last two centuries or so, reading aloud (if in a hushed voice) was the norm.

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by Bhaakon on Aug 13, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d definitely be interested to hear from somebody who knows a little more about brain function than I do. Although I don’t see why it wouldn’t be true. When you’re listening to somebody speak, you’re cluing in on a lot of subtle signifiers. Intonation, pace, pauses, tone, etc., in order to glean a lot of context that aids comprehension.

When you read, you don’t have that luxury, even if you’re reading out loud. You need visual signifiers like punctuation and spelling to get all the same information.

At least, that’s what I would say. As a non-brain-expert.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not a brain expert either, or even an amatuer

But I’d imagine that the actual comprehension of language is happening in the same places regardless of the method of transmission.

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by Bhaakon on Aug 13, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m almost a brain expert (two years to go!), and I don’t study language specifically, but I believe what you said is accurate. Spoken and written comprehension involve different processing pathways. At the very least, deficits in one don’t mean deficits in another; there are great readers who understand spoken language poorly, and vice-versa. Language processing does however wind up in common areas, and brain damage in some areas can cause global aphasias, where written and spoken language are similarly impaired.

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by neurofarm on Aug 13, 2009 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Being in education

this sounds correct to me. Different learning styles and all…

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
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by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

When you read, you don’t have that luxury, even if you’re reading out loud. You need visual signifiers like punctuation and spelling to get all the same information.

The question has been answered, thanks to neurofarm, but I’d add that this isn’t quite true either. With the exception of scripts and other compositions designed to be read aloud to an audience, ancient Latin and Greek were written without punctuation (or, often, spaces between words).

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by Bhaakon on Aug 14, 2009 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Bible too.

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by Cookyman on Aug 14, 2009 4:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

These pretzels are making me thirsty.

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by ResDog on Aug 14, 2009 6:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

A large one for me is when people use incorrect words

It goes beyond your/you’re their/there/they’re.

Stuff like break/brake, plain/plane etc… to me it exudes ignorance. This usually isn’t because of a simple typing mistake… most often the person does not realize that there are two separate words involved.

Of course, I always fuck up strait and straight when I’m not thinking…

by FairweatherFan on Aug 13, 2009 7:06 PM PDT reply actions  

I think my answer above applies here as well.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Personally speaking

I usually don’t make a big deal of this stuff in informal settings such as here, simply because it is inappropriate (so you are partially correct). However, I am sometimes amused by doing so.

However, using these words incorrectly (especially consistently) just shows ignorance. It really isn’t flattering when someone uses “your” when it is obviously “you’re.”

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by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shirly, you can’t be serious.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2009 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am serious. And don’t call me Surely.

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by jhiat00 on Aug 14, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Because you're using the wrong fucking word

If I meant to tell you about my bicycle, but instead said “car” every time I meant to say bicycle, it would be annoying as hell.

by FairweatherFan on Aug 14, 2009 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Could you show these twenty good people the dog kennels, please?

by microwave donut on Aug 14, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bruce Jenkin's weekly pitchcoun diatribes

After reading his latest one, I get the feeling that he’s rather have the starter “finish what he starts” than watch the team win. I bet he creamed hispant after Cain’s CG loss in Houston.

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by Bhaakon on Aug 13, 2009 7:06 PM PDT reply actions  

1. Buster Posey can play SS
2. Micro Sample Splits! (In August, against LHP, during day games, he was pretty good!)
3. Saying “I know it’s a small sample size but….” before trying to talk about the last 10 at-bats someone had
4. When you forget to shake yellow mustard before you squirt it, and instead, that gross water stuff comes out.
5. Did I mention Buster Posey playing SS in the majors?

by xanthan on Aug 13, 2009 7:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Also, my grammar isn’t always the best. I’ll probably stay out of the grammar nazi stuff.

by xanthan on Aug 13, 2009 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know its a small sample size but….. I don’t think you like the idea of Posey at SS in the majors.

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by merkin on Aug 13, 2009 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

That mustard water is truly a pox upon civilization.

by Evan on Aug 13, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yellow mustard is another pet peeve of .mine.

Good god, how did the American public get tricked into buying that crap?

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by Bhaakon on Aug 13, 2009 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll eat yellow mustard, but I fully recognize that better mustards exist.

by xanthan on Aug 13, 2009 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

yellow mustard has its place

like a comfort food to many, if thats what they grew up with then its good
some people love spam
and I even see people put gravy on fries….

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by merkin on Aug 13, 2009 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

A girl I went to high school with put mayo on fries. Ick!

by Merope on Aug 13, 2009 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s actually pretty good.

by xanthan on Aug 13, 2009 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fried spam sandwiches are also awesome. I’m from WV so cut me some slack here.

by xanthan on Aug 13, 2009 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn rednecks.

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by Cookyman on Aug 13, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have never been to Hawaii, but I eat at a few Hawaiian restaurants near me and they all have shitloads of SPAM entrees. I find it very weird.

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by Giant among Angels on Aug 13, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isn’t that a < ahem > “leftover” from WWII?

by Merope on Aug 13, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Filipino too

Speaking of WHO, if its the Phillipines why isnt it Philipinos?

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by merkin on Aug 13, 2009 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

high five

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by jponry on Aug 13, 2009 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, it’s all about people upbringing
I work with a Vietnamese dude that puts Kielbasa and Ketchup on White Rice

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by merkin on Aug 13, 2009 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

An uncle on my wife’s side of the family puts ketchup on his prime rib. I’ll never get that one.

by xanthan on Aug 13, 2009 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shit, I brought some badass prime rib from Thanksgiving back to my college roomies. Its like midnight Thanksgiving night, they get up from the Playstation grab the food and COVER it in ketchup….. DUDE, thats like a $20 hunk of meat!!

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by merkin on Aug 13, 2009 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would have slapped them.

by xanthan on Aug 13, 2009 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

With the meat?

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by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

A couple weeks ago, I was BBQing some killer carne asada, and this girl who was over asked if we had any ketchup. I made her try it without any before I’d give her the ketchup, and she loved it. My proudest cooking moment.

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by Viliphied on Aug 14, 2009 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just eat it without the ketchup or he’s gonna flip out

/girls boyfriend

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by ResDog on Aug 14, 2009 7:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol

naw it wasn’t quite like that

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by Viliphied on Aug 14, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would stab him with a fork

by microwave donut on Aug 14, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

WHO! WHO WHO WHO WHO WHO WHO WHO WHO WHO WHO WHO!

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by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

actually his name is Ngo

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by merkin on Aug 13, 2009 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

French fries in the frosty!

Yes, I’ve done it.

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by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is delicious

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by rotorueter on Aug 13, 2009 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I read that as

A girl I went out with in high school put mayo on fries.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 13, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

There was this girl in High School that would put Mayonaise and French Fries on

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by merkin on Aug 13, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pommes Frites Anyone ?

She must have been Belgian and needed some home cooking.

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by nvsfg on Aug 14, 2009 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hate yellow mustard

Whole grain mustard? Cranberry mustard? Hot mustard? Best ever. The yellow shit is just terrible.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 13, 2009 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

you're goddamn right

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 13, 2009 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

TELL ME MORE ABOUT YOUR ELITIST GEORGETOWN MUSTARD PARTIES

by xanthan on Aug 13, 2009 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

we have the whole grain mustard on mini corn dogs

And drink tea with our pinkies up.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 13, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dijon only, please.

Maille, preferably.

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by Bhaakon on Aug 13, 2009 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

All mustard is welcome in my belly.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Aug 13, 2009 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."

by ResDog on Aug 14, 2009 7:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dude, What are you talking about?

Yellow Mustard is one of the most pure, unadulterated food products on the market.

Look at the ingredients sometime. #1 Mustard. #2 Vingear or Water.

That’s it. Nothing else. No Bullshit.

It’s excellent.

by FairweatherFan on Aug 14, 2009 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

What was that one commercial on KNBR awhile back"
Something like:
We’ll save you up to 50% or more.

You’re going to do what now?

by Merope on Aug 13, 2009 7:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Grammar pet peeve: abuse of semi-colons. They have their purpose of course. But using them too much just makes me feel like a pompous bastard. I saw a sentence that had TWO semi-colons in it and my head nearly exploded.

Writing pet peeve: fiction in second person present tense. GIYGIUYGFUYFRYTEDYTRDGFUYTYDYC NO NO GOOD GOD IN HEAVEN NO. I used to run in slash circles and some crappy writer did so much of this. I just wanted to die every time she shared anything new.

General pet peeves: 1) drivers who tailgate me. I drive a bit over the speed limit, and I’m doing 75 most of the time. Don’t fucking tailgate me. Go around me, and get pulled over by CHP. I cordially invite you to do this. 2) gender roles in the media. Women and men equally look like hopeless clods in advertising and programming, but the women’s shit really gets to me. I can’t watch an rerun of Roseanne without seeing advertising about banal programming featuring bridezillas and catty bitches fighting over men. Because apparently, me watching a funny show about a cool broad means I must want to badger some dumb bastard into marriage and spend my days focusing on vapid bullshit, right? 3) the national sports media and how badly they fuck everything up. See, ESPN and FUX sports in particular. 4) Passive-aggressive people drive me up the wall, as well documented here in my roommate saga.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 13, 2009 7:50 PM PDT reply actions  

I really hate having it pounded into my head that men are dumb when watching tv.

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
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by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Men cannot wash clothes. Or dishes. Or keep anything clean. They make giant messes and don’t understand how air freshener units work. They have no idea how to raise children or how to cook a meal that isn’t on the grill.

Oh and the ads for the Man Caves program? Stupid. I’d like a refinished basement with a bar, beer taps, and a flat screen TV for watching sports. I don’t get to play because I’m not a dude?

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 13, 2009 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I understand how the airfreshener unit works, I simply choose not to use it.

Whereas women employ the airfreshener unit without any understanding of how it works.

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by Bhaakon on Aug 13, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s true what they say. Men are from Omicron Perseii 6. Women are from Omicron Perseii 7.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Futurama?

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 13, 2009 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I might have gotten the numbering wrong, but yes.

I think that was from the human horn episode, but I’m not 100% on that.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

You've ruined it's brilliance with your utter lack of insider knowledge.

My new pet peeve: people who don’t use google.

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by Bhaakon on Aug 13, 2009 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

My new pet peeve

Bhaakon

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 13, 2009 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

My favorite was the old Hardees commercials showing men trying to make breakfast for themselves. It had one guy just cracking eggs straight onto the burners of his stove because he just couldn’t FIGURE IT OUT.

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by xanthan on Aug 13, 2009 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

This type of stuff. And more!

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank god I have an electric stove. I would be so screwed if I had to figure out how to cook eggs on one of those gas burners.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hardees? Is that like the one where the guys are in the super market poking the steaks in the meat department? On never mind, that was Carls Jr

by m34josh on Aug 14, 2009 2:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I could be wrong but I think Hardees is the east coast version of Carls Jr (owned by the same company).

by SFGuy on Aug 14, 2009 2:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, same company. Different names for some reason.

by xanthan on Aug 14, 2009 5:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

/regional name bias

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by nvsfg on Aug 14, 2009 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also, my statement above is poor grammar

Can anyone tell me why?

/teacher mode

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because of the possible confusion that could cause somebody to think that men become dumb temporarily when watching TV, not that mean on TV are portrayed as dumb.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Men! Men! Not mean… I didn’t mean mean I meant men.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Awesomely awesome

See, I even point out my own grammar mistakes.

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh and another

Blanket statements! Assuming that X applies to everyone. I can find some way to poke holes in almost every “Everyone does X” statement.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 13, 2009 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

(Whatever) is shit.

Oh , absolutely…

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by victor frankenstein on Aug 13, 2009 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope. pattern recognition (and thus generalizations) is a high order intellectual function.

You know what’s not clever? When someone makes what is obviously a generalization, and someone else points out ONE contrary example and thinks that brilliantly negates the whole generalization.

Cold makes things contract.
OH YEAH? Then why do liquids break the bottle when they freeze? Huh? Huh???Um, yeah, that’s because liquid is one of incredibly few examples to that. Freeze anything else and see what happens.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Aug 13, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s the exception that proves the rule lol!

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or like

When you say that WS titles go to teams in pitchers’ parks, and we point out that there is no evidence of that, that it doesn’t make sense, and that of the last 8 team that won a WS, 6 played in hitters’ parks, and the other two played in pretty neutral ones? Yeah, I hate that too.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 14, 2009 5:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, since it’s your theory, it’s pretty much up to you to show actual evidence supporting it, not up to the rest of us to find evidence that contradicts it.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 14, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or

As a smart man once said, “the burden is on the proponent of any idea to lay out some rational way that the proposition makes any sense.”

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 14, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I did. I am satisfied that the generalization holds that championship teams come from pitchers parks.

I don’t care to make tables and columns of data etc., as I don’t care about this topic as much as you appear to (really, I am impressed that you (a) remember the point, and (b) associate it with my screen name so accurately this much time later— impressed and worried about you). I did not set out to prove the point, and so I have laid out no proof. It would be hard for me to care less.

My comment to go back 100 WS was not, as you cutely spun it, an attempt to force you to disprove it. Rather, it was an invitation to take a look at the data as I have and then decide whether the generalization holds, because I think that if you look at league champions over a century, you will conclude the same thing that many others have. In no way do I want you to disprove it; I want you to prove it to yourselfj, if you are interested. I am both too lazy and too uninterested in the topic to set up columns in a table that shows 200 league champions, identifies a reasonable park effect, etc.

But to point out the last 8 WS winners (as if the WS is dictated solely by park effect) to refute the notion that championship teams (incl. league champions who don’t win the WS, but who obviously stand the 2nd best chance of winning the WS, second only the actual winner of the WS) is basically pointing to anecdotes to refute a larger data set. Bless your heart for caring about this point so much, though— and I really mean that, not at all condescending. It’s very cool.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Aug 14, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

My only point it is hypocritical to say that pointing out last 8 WS winners “is pointing to anecdotes to refute a larger data set”, when you have presented no such data.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 14, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, that's just silly. It's not hypocritical.

it’s ironic, maybe. It’s certainly lazy and indifferent on my part that I never set up the tables so that you could see something that is widely available— I freely cop to that. But refuting a point with an anecdote is invalid and silly even in the absence of the data set that supports the point. Certainly, your anecdotes can (and probably even should) raise questions about the overall point, and if you’re that interested, have a look for yourself. But you were still refuting a point (for which a larger data set exists in the world, irrespective of whether I provided it) with anecdotes.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Aug 14, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s just that I find it weird that you complain about the way people tried to refute your point, when even you admit that you’ve done even less to try to make your point. Both methods suck, but making a point based on insufficient data is still better than making a point by just stating that it’s true. At least you’d get a D for effort for the first one.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 14, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude, wow.

I didn’t make my point on insufficient data. I just didn’t bother to SHOW YOU THE DATA. Big difference. If you don’t understand that difference, then so be it.

I didn’t complain that"people" refuted my point— I don’t recall it, so I have said nothing specific to that. I will take you at your plural words (“we,” “us,” “people”), as I have no reason to doubt you and I have no memory of it. But I don’t recall complaining.

My point stands and remains solid: attempting to refute a generalization with a small number of exceptions is not clever and is silly. In so stating, I am not saying that anyone is bound to believe my cursory assertions, and if they don’t, they are folly. I make no such claim. I make no claim that I have ever offered a credible brief for the point that championship teams come from pitcher’s park (a belief that is widely held and not original with me). That is immaterial to the point you are attempting to make, that somehow my lack of establishing proof (to your satisfaction) takes away my right to think it is cheap and stupid to try to refute a generalization with a comparatively small number of examples.

It would be hypocrisy of me to refute your generalizations with a small number of exceptions. Absent that, you have no grounds for the hypocrisy assertion. If I were making some claim that my assertions which are offered without supporting evidence should automatically be believed and revered by you, that would be totally wrong. Good thing I am not now nor have ever done that.

You really picked this issue out of the air. What’s your deal? I don’t even remember when that discussion was. What are you really getting at? I can’t believe all your energy on this/me. Did my assertion/belief offered without a table of the 200 WS participants on a table with their park effects really offend you? If so, I apologize, if it really bent you out of shape. You have a lot of energy on this.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Aug 14, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Word

I dislike it when people cite one or two contrary examples as sufficient reason to completely invalidate an obvious and established trend.

Smoking kills people.

“Oh but my great uncle fred smoked a pack a day, and he lived until he was 95!”

:rolleyes:

by FairweatherFan on Aug 14, 2009 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

+1

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Aug 14, 2009 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

moar

Men who bitch about their girlfriends not liking sports, or the girlfriends who don’t give them time to do guy stuff. But they keep dating the same type of woman, and overlook the women who actually do like sports and can function with a life on her own to give him time to himself.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 13, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll take you one further, anyone ever bitching about their relationships to me.

I just don’t care about it. Unless it’s my best friend or something.

by xanthan on Aug 13, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Frankly, my relationship is awesome and I actually pity everyone who isn’t either me or my girlfriend.

Sucks to be you guys!

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've been married happily for nearly 9 years

And I still complain to my best friend every so often about my wife. He complains about his, as well. We both adore our wives. Complaining does not mean that the relationship is bad.

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
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by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

When you spend so much time with another person, they’re going to annoy you and piss you off. It’s inevitable.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 13, 2009 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, no, absolutely. I was just trying to do the opposite of bitch to xanthan about my relationship (which is totally real and not made up or anything).

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was less a reply to you than it was a continuation of the conversation

Don’t feel bad.

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

To add to this: Couples who break-up or are on the verge of breaking up every couple months and want to talk about it non-stop to their friends. Hey, if you’re under the age of 25 maybe that’s okay. But don’t tell me, the guy married for six years with child, that the girl you’ve been dating since high school are on the outs again.

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by ResDog on Aug 14, 2009 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Some people LOVE drama.

by Merope on Aug 14, 2009 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Some people LOVE drama

That is one of my pet peeves actually. I am sure as an educator you run in to this issue very often.

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by nvsfg on Aug 14, 2009 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL yeah, and more so with my colleagues than with my students and / or their families.

by Merope on Aug 14, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m also really not big on people telling me I’m wrong for not wanting to reproduce.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 13, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that one gets old. “But it’s your biological destiny.” GDIAF

by Merope on Aug 13, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

lame

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sad to say, but since I no longer spend much time around religious people, I don’t hear that kind of BS anymore.

by Merope on Aug 13, 2009 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm religious

And I am totally not offended by that. My best friend has been married for more than 5 years and he still gets the “why haven’t you guys gone forth and multiply?” crap.

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve been to a few Catholic wedding ceremonies and in both of them almost half of the ceremony was taken up by the pastor saying “now go have babies.” I think it’s fairly institutional, which makes sense considering the long history in most religions that is taken up with getting more people to follow (and what better way than to make them?). This was also the brilliance of a late-blooming religion like mormonism putting so much stock in both conversion AND birth.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Late blooming

Mormonism was ugly as a gawky adolescent, but now… Woah Momma!

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
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by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d hit it.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mormonism

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by victor frankenstein on Aug 13, 2009 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmm

I’d hardly call .2% of the population covering the earth…

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
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by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

They're not done.

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Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Aug 13, 2009 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are they the ones that comb the death registers and sign people up posthumously? (Could be an urban legend I guess.)

by Merope on Aug 13, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, that'd be us

It’s discouraged, though. The official stance of the church is that you are encouraged to present relatives for baptisms for the dead. Some members, however, are a bit too zealous. There’s been some problems with members presenting the names of some holocaust victoms for baptism. The Jewish community was not pleased. The church has issued an apology and has issued messages to its members to only present the names of family members for baptism for the dead.

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even Judaism, which has little to no interest in trying to get more people to follow it, is completely obsessed with making people.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 13, 2009 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Increased tithes?

by Merope on Aug 13, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ding,Ding

Most religious teaching/law have a basis in histroical events. More people and more money would mean that you could structure social order and law.

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by nvsfg on Aug 14, 2009 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I think it has more to do with the commandment from deity, more than anything.

What I never get, though, is why do we feel that a commandment from thousands of years ago still applies?

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

For the same reason that third grade teachers tell their students not to start a sentence with the word and?

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by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

So religions are lazy?

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, I thought you were talking about individuals for some reason. If we’re talking about religiions, obviously I will not chock it up to laziness. I’m probably not knowledgeable enough to talk about religions in anything but a limited sense (for instance: they like babies!)

Looking back, I’m not sure where I got the impression that you were talking about individual people.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well actually

What I said isn’t completely accurate – Judaism isn’t in any way interested in turning non-Jews into Jews, but it is obsessed with turning non-practicing Jews into practicing Jews. So I guess that having a bunch of kids and raising them as religious does increase the percentage of Jews who are practicing Jews. So there’s that.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 13, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

More soldiers for when the Romans come around.

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Aug 14, 2009 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thing is

It goes way back, all the way to Genesis, where God basically asks Adam and Eve to make as many people as possible, so people can rule the earth. So this isn’t even just for Jews – according to Judaism, people of all religions should make as many people as possible. “Wasting” sperm is also forbidden in Judaism (God killed the last guy who tried it), so a crapload of kids is pretty much unavoidable.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 14, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ohh… that’s where the word comes from…

by Natto on Aug 14, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

But then God got more reasonable and created pre-cum, so the whole issue was solved.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Grammar alert!

Now it’s your turn, thehavenot.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I mean the problem in the first sentence. There’s some other unweildy stuff going on in there, but we don’t need to expose all of it.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh

I was gonna talk about how the “which” can’t apply to the entire clause “I think it’s institutional.”

But if it’s just the first sentence, then few and both are not compatible. ?

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah. That’s it.

The other sentence you picked out is just kind of a big mess anyway, so I’m just glad that it even makes intuitive sense.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was gonna talk about how the "which" can’t apply to the entire clause "I think it’s institutional."

I may regret this, but why?

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 13, 2009 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, you'll regret it

It’s totally not a very important part of grammar, in my opinion. It has to do with clarity. The “which” could be referring to the pronoun “it’s” or the noun “institutional” or to the whole clause itself.

However, most people are going to understand that the “which” is referring to the whole clause. This is why I’m not a big fan of this particular rule.

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
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by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

What would be the correct form?

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 13, 2009 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, like many statements in English

there can be many ways to say it correctly. I personally think that the best way is to just change that sentence into two sentences and replace which with this. That way, the pronoun this has to apply to the entire previous sentence.

Of course, I don’t actually have a real problem with which being used the way it was above. So…

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

OMG

institutional is not a noun…

I’m an idiotic.

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Had an argument with my brother last Fourth.

When he came out with “That’s why you’re not married.” – which was COMPLETELY OT – I was absolutely stunned. (Bro lives in Concord , BTW…is it something in the water?)

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by victor frankenstein on Aug 13, 2009 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

We have one kid & we keep getting asked when we’re going to have another. Stop it already people, just because you’ve been overthrown by your children doesn’t mean you should encourage others to do the same.

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"Nothing important ever happened without me."

by ResDog on Aug 14, 2009 7:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Gender roles on screen! Classic. My GF and I have been trying to think of one movie that fits these 3 critieria:

-Must have at least 2 male and female characters
-The men talk to other men about things other than the opposite gender
-The women talk to other women about things other than the opposite gender.

We’ve been at this for a year now. Nothing.

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 13, 2009 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

STAR WARS!

Chewbacca is female, right?

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by Bhaakon on Aug 13, 2009 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

no

but he is dead, apparently. Where’s the pet peeves on blankety blank lucasfilm quality control?

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

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by natteringnabob on Aug 13, 2009 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think that book got un-canon’d.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
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by jponry on Aug 13, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bechdel Test! I’m growing less and less interested in shows that don’t pass it (Do women ever have discussions amongst themselves in the show that aren’t about men? If yes, it passes. If not, it doesn’t.)

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 13, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

men, weddings and/or babies… Booooooooorrrrrrrrring!

by Merope on Aug 13, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

YES! We expanded it to include men though just to make it harder. (TWSS) It’s definitely easier for TV just because it’s usually a larger cast and there’s more time for interactions. Though, it’s really no excuse. It’s just impossible for movies though.

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 13, 2009 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

In defense of semicolons.

I use them frequently, and I suppose that I could rework the sentences or paragraphs, but they serve an important function. If my thought has enough separate parts that I don’t think hang together if I split them into different sentences, then I use semicolons. I use the semicolon instead of a comma to aid clarity, because if I just were to use commas, the reader might think it’s a series or some damn thing, when it isn’t. And, of course, if the clauses themselves require a comma, then separating the clauses by semicolons aids clarity.

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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 13, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Proper use of semicolons

Limited to tk references

oh , hi there!

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by victor frankenstein on Aug 14, 2009 12:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Heh

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 14, 2009 5:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Tailgating thing

I don’t like tailgaters either – it’s dangerous.

However, I always move over when I am in the fast lane and someone wants to pass me. I don’t care how fast I am going or how fast they are going.

I used to be self-righteous about it thinking “well shit, I’m going 10 over the speed limit – you don’t need to go any faster… etc”

But then I had a change of heart. 1.) Passing on the right is fuckin dangerous and 2.) You don’t know who that person is or what their situation is. Maybe it’s an ER doctor who just got the call to come in and do an emergency surgery on someone? Maybe every minute counts?

by FairweatherFan on Aug 14, 2009 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

An ER surgeon in a lowered Honda Accord with tinted windows, spinner rims and ultra bass rap music blaring? I guess anything’s possible.

by Merope on Aug 14, 2009 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

You never know...

Point is, it’s self righteous to try and enforce your belief on others on the road when you don’t know their situation. Let them by and let them get in the accident/get a ticket etc.

by FairweatherFan on Aug 14, 2009 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Texas Fast Lane

They mean it. Get over.

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"Nothing important ever happened without me."

by ResDog on Aug 14, 2009 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Grammer shit that don't makes sense

How come, when referring to non-people, “that” and “which” are both acceptable (though have slightly different meanings), but, when referring to people, only “who” is acceptable?

This is OK:

  • The ball that I’m holding is red.

As is this:

  • The ball, which I’m holding, is red.

This is OK:

  • The kid who is holding the ball is an idiot.

But this isn’t:

  • The kid, which is holding the ball, is an idiot.

What’s the logic behind that?

Also, why is there no “manier” (as in the opposite of fewer)? How come I have many windows and much air, few windows and little air, fewer windows and less air, but more windows and more air? Is it really that hard to come up with manier? Or is the difference between countable and uncountable not that important anymore? If that’s the case, then why did you even make the distinction in the first place?

RAGE

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 13, 2009 7:57 PM PDT reply actions  

There's a lot that doesn't make much sense in English

For instance, how come I can’t be whelmed? I can be overwhelmed and I can be underwhelmed. But, no, I can’t be simply whelmed.

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by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can, on the other hand, be just regular fluous without being superfluous – just ask Brian Sabean.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 13, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Linguistics is very, very tricky and I’m not qualified to talk about it in specific terms. I will say that laguage does not develop in terms of strict opposition. One word having one synonym does not dictate that an antonym will have the same number of synonyms.

Which and that likely had very different uses when they started within the language.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

But it’s just so easy! “Manier”. Simple, short, easy to spell, intuitive meaning – I just want to know what prevented this word from being created.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 13, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

‘cuz it sounds too much like “Manny -er” and I think we’d all agree that we’d like less Manny, not more.

by Merope on Aug 13, 2009 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or fewer Manny, for that matter, because obviously WE DON’T CARE ABOUT COUNTABILITY ANYMORE!

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 13, 2009 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

ANYLESS either.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

ANYFEWER

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 13, 2009 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ordinary - plain , commonplace.

EXTRAordinary , OTOH…

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by victor frankenstein on Aug 13, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

OH

And how come “full” has to l’s but “wonderful”, “colorful”, “painful”, etc. only have one?

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 13, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

How Come

The phrase (actually, I’m not even sure if it’s a phrase) “How come…” blows my mind. It doesn’t make any sense. I do not understand how it became to mean what it currently means.

The same is true with the word “Here” when asking someone to take something from you. How does it make any sense to ask someone to take something from you by saying “Here”. Mind bottling.

by Fresburg on Aug 14, 2009 7:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

People used to say “Here you are.” or “Here you go.” Maybe that particular use of here is just a lazification of the full phrase?

by Merope on Aug 14, 2009 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I find it much weirder

That we say “there, there” in order to comfort people. What the hell does that mean, and how is that comforting in any way?

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 14, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do not find that second one reassuring.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

One think that drives me ape shit is driving on a 2 lane Hwy when a lot of trucks are present. For example, take the 5 Fwy (or Hwy, whatever), in the central valley. I absolutely HATE it how some cars are so afraid to pass trucks. I mean, they speed up and race you to not get passed on the right-side before the two of you reach a truck. Once you reach the truck they stop and go 55 MPH. I assume either they are scared to drive side b side with a truck or have NO FUCKING CLUE THAT A MILE LONG SNAKE OF CARS IS BUILDING UP BEHIND THEM. I admit that I have some road rage, but this puts me over the edge.

I have gotten to the point that I now will only leave LA at 10PM or later and leave the Bay Area no later than 5AM when coming and going for holidays.

/flips bird at shitty driver on the 5

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by Giant among Angels on Aug 13, 2009 7:58 PM PDT reply actions  

THIS. I HATE THIS. I also hate the 405 and the people who can’t merge/signal and cut you off.. Like they’re entitled to the road and have the right of way no matter waht. GTFO

"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits

by FriscoJoe on Aug 13, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

People putting “the” in front of freeway numbers… why?

by Merope on Aug 13, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its the way people say it down here.

just happens.

"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits

by FriscoJoe on Aug 13, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

where are our local grammer polizei

on this one? I seem to hear bay area traffic honeys using the definite article before our freeways like they’re talking about how to get to the Inland Empire. For shame.

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by natteringnabob on Aug 13, 2009 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Inland Empire

why do people call it that?

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by Viliphied on Aug 14, 2009 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, yeah

that’s a given, but still.

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by Viliphied on Aug 14, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know why they call it that. It’s miserable there (which is a really large area). Mostly desert.

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by Giant among Angels on Aug 14, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or how people add an unneeded “s” to things.

Example: I’m going to Wal-Marts.

I think this could be a southern thing.

by xanthan on Aug 13, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Barnes and Nobles
or for soccer “offsides” No, offsides is American football, offside is rest-of-the-world futbol.

by Merope on Aug 13, 2009 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Four years in Texas, never heard that before.

El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."

by ResDog on Aug 14, 2009 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have a friend who gets plural/singular things wrong all the time. His two most famous examples are “luggages” and the band “The White Stripe”

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by SF Pete on Aug 14, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Um, I don’t know. What is the proper way of saying it?

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by Giant among Angels on Aug 13, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, the goes in front of nouns. The does not go in front of proper nouns (names).

Freeway is the noun. I go on the freeway. I go on the interstate. Freeway numbers are the names of the freeways. I went on 80. I went on 101.

Of course, I really don’t care personally how somebody says it. But this is my own personal way of looking at it.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just like one doesn’t say “I drive down the Lombard Street.”

The “the” thing has always struck me as being a SoCal way of speaking, another reason it annoys me.

by Merope on Aug 13, 2009 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

GAA annoys Merope!

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by Giant among Angels on Aug 13, 2009 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

/flips bird at shitty driver on the 5

/flips off shitty driver while on 5

Just doesn’t sound right (not saying it isn’t). I really had to think about it to not use “the”

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by Giant among Angels on Aug 13, 2009 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why worse

People putting “the” in front of band names for no reason. I can’t stand hearing “the Pink Floyd” or “the Led Zeppelin”.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 13, 2009 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

And by why

I mean way.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 14, 2009 5:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

You don’t like hearing people talk about the The Beatles?

GROUGTHINK ALERT
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by groug on Aug 14, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Beatles are actually a weird case

They generally refer to themselves as “The Beatles”, which is also the name of one of their albums, but on the covers of Sgt. Pepper’s, Magical Mystery Tour, and Abbey Road it just says “Beatles”. Make up your mind!

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 14, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

What is worse

Is when two trucks get next to each other with one passing the other @ a 2 mph delta.

by FairweatherFan on Aug 14, 2009 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah FUCK that!

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by Giant among Angels on Aug 14, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pet Peeves from LA

Dodger, Laker, and USC fans. I make exceptions for people who actually went to SC. I’m talking about the people who just root for them because they’re good at Football.

And all of the knuckle-headed fair-weather Dodgers or Lakers fans down here.
People who wear Lakers stuff: Were you rooting for them when Anthony Peeler was playing? And if you’re wearing Dodgers stuff: Do you even remember Todd Hollandsworth?
 And you have the nerve to comment on my Giants hat?

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by FriscoJoe on Aug 13, 2009 8:08 PM PDT reply actions  

shit I remember Hollandsworth

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 13, 2009 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I get the same shit for wearing the Giants clothing from Angels fans. As I live down the street from the stadium, and it never fails that once a week some a-hole fan wants to remind me of 2002

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by Giant among Angels on Aug 13, 2009 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was a freshman in college in 2002. Just moved into to a dorm full of Dodger and Angel fans. It was a tough fall.

"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits

by FriscoJoe on Aug 13, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well , what do we think when we see Angel gear?

Nothing?

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by victor frankenstein on Aug 13, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

who are these angels you speak of?

by microwave donut on Aug 14, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

You want to know why Angel fans don’t like the Giants? Because before 2002 they were Dodger fans.

El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."

by ResDog on Aug 14, 2009 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Confession: I used to cheer for the Lakers. Back when it was Eddie Jones and/or Nick the Brick Van Exel. They weren’t my favorite team, but a Laker game at the Forum was a good experience. The fans who were there actually liked basketball. Then they signed Shaq, who I’ve always disliked, and I turned on them a bit. When they started winning, I got my first glimpse of the Laker bandwagon. I turned into a Laker-hater that quickly. Didn’t help that they traded Eddie Jones away or they brought in Phil Jackson just because millionaires wouldn’t listen to competent Del Harris. Their fans are truly awful & turn on their team if they don’t win every single game.

El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."

by ResDog on Aug 14, 2009 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well said

It was the same way in 2007 for the Warriors. They sure had a lot of fans when they made the playoffs. Many of those same people were chearing on the Lakers this year. “because they’re from California!!!”

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by FriscoJoe on Aug 14, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hate how media is really just a conduit for fear and ratings. Coming up next, is the air you breathe killing you?! Also, I really hate it when CNN reads people’s tweets and retarded opinions on air like they matter. If I wanted to know what people think on things I would fucking ask. I guess what I’m trying to say is REPORT THE FUCKING NEWS. Breaking news, I hate the media.

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 13, 2009 8:08 PM PDT reply actions  

P.S. I realize this isn’t technically an open hate thread and I should probably stop watching the news.

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 13, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree more than 500000000000%

SO MUCH HATRED for modern media. First, they long ago traded a fairminded search for truth for the stunting and retarding goal of “balance,” as if balance results in truth. Um, no. When the put up two talking heads to take opposite sides, they think they’re doing their job, but in fact they are abdicating it. To put Person A up there to say that the proposed health insurance reforms will wreck medical care in America and then put up Person B to scream the contrary is not getting anyone closer to the truth (though it does insinuate a moral or intellectual equivalence, which is also bad). Here’s an idea for the journalist: GO DO YOUR DAMN JOB! Go find OUT what the implications would be if the proposals were adopted! Go research and learn and come back and tell your findings! You know… REPORT the story.

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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 13, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

you'll probably love this then

http://slacktivist.typepad.com/slacktivist/2009/07/reporting-the-controversy.html

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by Viliphied on Aug 14, 2009 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

an excerpt
Outside of the sports pages, we don’t really [tell the truth] much anymore. We don’t check things out and find out what are, in fact, the facts of the matter. We don’t evaluate claims to see if they correspond with any discernible reality. We just repeat the claims. We “report the controversy,” but timidly refuse to suggest whether the facts support one set of claims or the other. We have pitched our tent in the excluded middle and abdicated any responsibility to check things out.

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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl

by Viliphied on Aug 14, 2009 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Totally obvious. Sigh.

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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 14, 2009 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

but…but… that would be like… WORK !

by Merope on Aug 14, 2009 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

+100

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by jhiat00 on Aug 14, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

People who refer to all electronic music as ‘techno’.

by xanthan on Aug 13, 2009 8:19 PM PDT reply actions  

So, you like all that techno?

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 13, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’ve just made an enemy!

by xanthan on Aug 13, 2009 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

OH NOES

How could you possibly hurt me from that “mixing studio” in your mother’s basement? BWUAHAHAHAHA!

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Aug 13, 2009 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

People that make me turn off my cruise control for no reason

Either by tailgating then passing and then slowing down in front of me.
or
Speeding up as I start to pass and then matching speeds with me.

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by merkin on Aug 13, 2009 8:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Ugh I hate that. I always use my signal when I want to get over, and I do it in plenty of time for the other driver to see me. Don’t fucking pace me, asshole.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 13, 2009 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL i'm with you on this

I’m a rabid cruise control user – and I HATE it when people pass me, cut in front of me, and then slow down causing me to turn off or re-set the CC. Drives me up the wall.

by FairweatherFan on Aug 14, 2009 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I pretty much gave up on using cruise control because this is so irritating

by microwave donut on Aug 14, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought that’s what “cruise control” stood for.
“Push this button to have annoying people slow down to a crawl right in front of you.”

by Merope on Aug 14, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

People who think Chinese food consists of fried rice and kung pao chicken and that it’s all filled with MSG.

by Natto on Aug 13, 2009 8:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Or anyone named General Tsao

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 13, 2009 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

What’s the matter, General Tsao? Chicken???

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Celery in my chinese food is another big pet peeve of mine.

You cheap fucking bastards!

Also, why can’t a Chinese restaurant ever have free refills? If I’m going to a sit—down restaurant, I’m not expecting my Coke served in a damn can.

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by Bhaakon on Aug 13, 2009 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Celery is completely useless and I want it to go away.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 13, 2009 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Counterpoint: It’s pretty awesome with peanut butter or pimento spread.

by xanthan on Aug 13, 2009 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

cooked celery > uncooked celery

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by Giant among Angels on Aug 13, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

HEARTILY disagree.

Fresh celery is refreshing.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love celery

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 13, 2009 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because they want your money.

by Natto on Aug 13, 2009 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

The free-refills comment really had me laughing.

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by Giant among Angels on Aug 13, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just realized

If it’s in a can, they couldn’t have pee-peed in my coke.

I’m going to hell.

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by Bhaakon on Aug 13, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

But they still could have pee-peed on the can.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t want it on pizza either. Call it buffalo whatever the fuck you want, but celery doesn’t belong on pizza

by m34josh on Aug 14, 2009 2:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like celery, but it should not be anywhere near a pizza.

by Natto on Aug 14, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

What?

Next you’ll tell me that Taco Bell isn’t authentic Mexican!

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by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anybody remember when their brilliant marketing campaign was “The beef is now beefier”?

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by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really like TB, but never order anything with beef in it.

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by Giant among Angels on Aug 13, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've heard

that it comes in powder form.

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by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve heard that of the beans…

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by Giant among Angels on Aug 13, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ask me about my Monster Chicken Taco story.

Better yet , don’t.

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by victor frankenstein on Aug 13, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ya, it comes in a bag. They add water to rehydrate it back into ‘meat form’

by m34josh on Aug 14, 2009 2:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t ever want to get TB. I hear it’s deadly.

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by groug on Aug 13, 2009 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

A friend of mine just got TB

He was on the news, too. STUDENT AT UC BERKELEY GET TB!

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by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

So, Natto

Forgive my ignorance, but where can one find authentic Chinese food around the Bay Area?

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by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

A lot of Chinese restuarants do serve their respective regional cuisines but offer Americanized dishes to appease the average Joe. There are plenty of decent places scattered around the Sunset and Richmond districts of San Francisco. Of course, there’s stuff in Chinatown, but you just have to know what and where to order.

by Natto on Aug 13, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yea, I do think that for Chinese it really depends on what you’re going for. I’d get dim sum and dinner at different places.

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 13, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some in cupertino too

by m34josh on Aug 14, 2009 2:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Video game console fanboys
People who refer to Microsoft as M$ – Guess what? Apple loves your money too!

by Natto on Aug 13, 2009 9:00 PM PDT reply actions  

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of...

The Macs are superior to PCs people.

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by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of which...

The PCs are superior to Macs people.

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by jponry on Aug 13, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have one of each and they both annoy me. Each in its own wonderful way.

by Merope on Aug 13, 2009 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure

Both have their function. I’ve used both. I’ve been fine with both.

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by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly. There are times when I wish beyond everything that I had a PC, but my Mac is perfectly fine for most things I want to do. If I could afford it, I’d have one of both (or buy some virtual desktop program + a windows OS or something).

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by jponry on Aug 13, 2009 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Although my desktop is running Win98 so I’m not sure it counts as a computer anymore!

by Merope on Aug 13, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

fuck yeah

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by jponry on Aug 13, 2009 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 13, 2009 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

N8 Dawg?

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by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

GENIUS

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by The Enchanter on Aug 13, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

rec'd

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

There's 3 ways to do something: the right way, the wrong way, and the Max Power/ Ginats Way...

by natteringnabob on Aug 13, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Excessive negativity

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by groug on Aug 13, 2009 9:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh, and smartasses

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by groug on Aug 13, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love smart asses

They appeal to my intelligence and my bathroom humor.

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by Bhaakon on Aug 13, 2009 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

As a kid, my dad would call me a smart ass all the time. I took it as a compliment. “Dad thinks I’m smart!”

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by ResDog on Aug 14, 2009 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Off-topic threads that get more comments than my front-page posts. I thought you nancies were here to talk about some freaking baseball, not capers or whatever the hell this post is about.

If you could go back in time and read what Melville wrote before it was published, would you sit there and talk about bread pudding, or whatever, with him? YOU HAVE ONE OF THE GENERATION’S GREATEST GENIUSES AT YOUR DISPOSAL, SO APPRECIATE HIM.

Also, another of my pet peeves: minorities. What is their freaking deal?

I’ll take my question off the air.

by Grant Brisbee on Aug 13, 2009 9:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Mmmmmm, bread pudding

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by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

with bourbon sauce ?

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by nvsfg on Aug 14, 2009 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Capers like the salty pickled things?

Or capers like old school heists?

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 13, 2009 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've never seen the Sting

I probably should some time…

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by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, such as immediately.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Aug 13, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eh… he was better with the Police, to be honest.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wasn't there a conversation somewhere in here about the definite article in front of things that don't need it?

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by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m sure I don’t know what you’re talking about.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2009 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

you like the The Police?

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by Viliphied on Aug 14, 2009 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know

I was being silly

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
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by thehavenot on Aug 14, 2009 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

The McCoven should appreciate me?

Thanks a bunch Grant :-D

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Aug 13, 2009 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Down in the Groove

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by jponry on Aug 13, 2009 9:33 PM PDT reply actions  

I've never heard it!

And I don’t plan to.

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by groug on Aug 13, 2009 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Though while we’re on the subject, Dylan & The Dead is spectacularly awful.

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by groug on Aug 13, 2009 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've never heard it!

And I don’t plan to.

And Down in the Groove isn’t spectacularly awful (unlike Dylan, Saved and Knocked Out Loaded) but it’s so boooooring.

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by jponry on Aug 13, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I mean

At least spectacularly awful is unintentionally hilarious.

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by jponry on Aug 13, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can see why you would think that

But there is no trainwreck excitement to be found. It’s just old songs done badly by people who don’t really seem to care.

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by groug on Aug 13, 2009 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, I was talking about Dylan/Saved/Knocked Out Loaded… they’re much worse than Down in the Groove, but at least they’re hilariously bad (Mr. Bojangles and They Killed Him = absolute hilarity), while Down in the Groove is just boring the whole way through.

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by jponry on Aug 13, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, I know all about They Killed Him

Back when that album was on my computer, that was always a fun one.

I never understood the hype about Brownsville Girl though. It had like one good line and it was 11 minutes long.

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by groug on Aug 13, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll quote myself on Brownsville Girl, if you don’t mind:

[blah blah blah another song on the album is] the “critically-acclaimed” “classic” “epic” Brownsville Girl, which was co-written with test pilot Chuck Yeager. By “critically acclaimed”, I mean “Robert Christgau likes it”. By “classic”, I mean “They put it on one or two Greatest Hits albums.” By “epic”, I mean “It’s 11 minutes long, so it must be epic!”

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by jponry on Aug 13, 2009 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, now I want a link.

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by groug on Aug 13, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry, I needed to fix all the formatting

Dylan Reviews

I got kind of carried away on my Blood on the Tracks review, as a warning.

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by jponry on Aug 13, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like it so far

I’m through Pat Garrett & Billy The Kid (and New Morning is in no way better than John Wesley Harding btw and you’re totally wrong and how dare you and burn in hell heathen etc etc), and since I’ve actually seen the director’s cut of the movie (I went through a FUCK YEAH WESTERNS ARE TOTALLY AWESOME phase and bought a few boxsets including a Peckinpah one that had four movies including this one), I can tell you some things about it.

So: the movie itself is decent, though Bob is a pretty terrible actor. He had one good scene, and that was when he was reading cans of beans off the walls. It worked because he was supposed to be weird and he was so very weird. Knockin’ on Heaven’s Door is actually used for a scene where a person is dying, though I have no idea if that was originally the case, considering everything in the movie got changed around a bunch of times. Anyway, I wouldn’t say the movie is a classic in re-edited form (admittedly, every movie ever made would suffer from being in the same boxset as The Wild Bunch), but it’s good.

The end.

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by groug on Aug 13, 2009 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol the Turkey Chase/Knockin’ on Heaven’s Door thing is actually a joke, my friend I’m doing this with did actually tell me the real context for the song. He did say that the guy who dies in the scene is in the movie for all of 5 minutes, which makes the use of the big emotional classic song from the soundtrack in his death scene kind of strangely funny to me after all.

I might see the movie… someday. Probably not.

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by jponry on Aug 13, 2009 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Spectacularly

or spectacularily?

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by victor frankenstein on Aug 13, 2009 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will die a happy man

If I leave this world without ever hearing Saved, Shot of Love, or any of the crap he put around that time. Man Gave Names to All the Animals scared me for life, and Slow Train Coming is supposedly the least terrible of all those albums.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 13, 2009 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shot of Love is great, actually!! I really like it.

Slow Train Coming is horrible unless you’re a born-again Christian or are able to completely ignore the lyrics, imo. A lot of Bob being smug about his conversion and whining about being persecuted.

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by jponry on Aug 13, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t call Shot of Love great, though Every Grain of Sand certainly is.

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by groug on Aug 13, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I gave it an 8/10, which was a big surprise, I wasn’t expecting to like it at all, especially not after how much I loathed STC and Saved.

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by jponry on Aug 13, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also: people who say “darn”.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 13, 2009 9:50 PM PDT reply actions  

well that fucking shit is just out of goddamn control

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by Viliphied on Aug 14, 2009 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

No , really.

There’s a certain class of people…I’m really not certain that anyone who has the basic literary skills necessary to hold their own online has ever encountered this species. See , I work with people who either failed at achieving a higher educational level or just rejected the notion altogether……it’s my own personal hell…and I run into this speech pattern WAY too often.

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by victor frankenstein on Aug 14, 2009 1:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, I’m aware. About once a month my roommate runs into someone he knows from high school and invites them over to our place. They’re always shady as hell, and they usually talk like this.

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by Viliphied on Aug 14, 2009 1:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

What about its many variations?

durn!
dag nabit!
dang!
fudge!
crap!

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by thehavenot on Aug 13, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

drat?
shucky darns was a popular sarcastic saying when I was in college.

by Merope on Aug 13, 2009 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll say “dadgum” if I goldurn feel like it, consarnit!

Bowkermania has been put on hiatus for retooling.

by rightcenterfielder on Aug 13, 2009 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

hey

I routinely use the word crap.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 13, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just say damn already

No one will get hurt, I promise.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 14, 2009 6:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, shucks

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
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by thehavenot on Aug 14, 2009 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Billions of blistering barnacles!

by Natto on Aug 14, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great Odin’s Raven!

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by Viliphied on Aug 14, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jiminy Jillickers!

by Merope on Aug 14, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, heck no.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah

Heck is also terrible. Why do these words exist? Oh, I just can’t mention the place where all sinners burn for eternity – unless I replace the “ll” with a “ck”. Ahh, much better.

Poo, I say.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 14, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Drivers who have to make full "roll back" stops no matter what.

I pay extra to live in California, dammit, and for my money, i want to make right turns on red and California roll-through stops!!!

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by The Enchanter on Aug 13, 2009 10:04 PM PDT reply actions  

at my pettiest

the smacking sound people make when they eat with their mouths open
and
environmental bumperstickers on cars

"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"

by The Gene Hackman on Aug 13, 2009 10:29 PM PDT reply actions  

I dislike the fact that 9 out of 10 Prius drivers with the green stickers and enviro stickers plastered on the backs of the cars are complete assholes on the road.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 13, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

This also applies to the people with a fish on their car

And those with one of the Darwin equivalents are just as bad. Inevitably, their driving will piss me off.

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 13, 2009 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Evolution: We’ll all turn into shitty drivers.

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by ResDog on Aug 14, 2009 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Our saying is “The bigger the [American] flag, the bigger the jerk.”

by Merope on Aug 14, 2009 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

finally a kindred spirit

for me that sound is the equivalent of what some people experience from fingernails scratching a chalkboard.

Re enviro-stickers: I always loved seeing all the SUV’s stacked up on the 80 with “Keep Tahoe Blue” bumper stickers.

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

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by natteringnabob on Aug 13, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love that site

Ed Hardy shit is horrible, though, and hating it is not contained to white ppl.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 13, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

racists

http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/03/23/91-san-francisco/

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by natteringnabob on Aug 13, 2009 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Affliction is almost as bad as Ed Hardy.

I have a hard time deciding which one I hate more. I guess it just depends on which asshole I see first wearing either one.

by jnormous on Aug 13, 2009 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

agreed

I walk around the men’s department at Macy’s and that and I wonder what in the blue fuck happened that introduced such atrocious clothes to menswear.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 14, 2009 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

fashion is eating itself

WTF chicks wearing those diaper-skirts WITH SUSPENDERS.

"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"

by The Gene Hackman on Aug 14, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Affliction shirts make for a good drinking game though. Any time you are out with a group of people and you see a douche bag in an Affliction shirt, everyone has to drink. Unfortunately, it leads to a massive hangover in Vegas, Palo Alto or Santana Row (aka Jabroni Row.)

by m34josh on Aug 14, 2009 2:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm White

And after going through that list I only like maybe 12 of those things… What does that make me?

"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits

by FriscoJoe on Aug 14, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, it’s really lampooning a certain type of white person. I’m not a big fan of the site, personally, it comes off as ironically racist hipster humor a lot of time to me.

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by jponry on Aug 14, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd like to add to my own list

Paternalism – specifically, helmet laws… and the douchebags who feel it’s within their purview to tell anyone to “get a helmet!”

dude, tell you what, I’ll take your [retarded] course on bike safety if you’ll take my course in how to mind your own fucking business.

"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"

by The Gene Hackman on Aug 14, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Out of curiosity

Biking or cycling?

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

psycling. definitely. i like motorcycles and motorcyclists, but would probably instantly kill myself on one of those things. I drove my friends scooter ONTO a car once. never again.

"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"

by The Gene Hackman on Aug 14, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, see, I don’t necessarily like the Nanny Laws however; I also don’t want to have to pay for life support for the idiot motorcyclist that wipes going 80mph. If you are not wearing a seatbelt or a helmet you automatically forfeit any public monies to pay for your newly acquired vegetative state!!

by Merope on Aug 14, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Word

Of course that opens up an entirely new conversation on paying public money for healthcare related to self inflicted ailments ;)

by FairweatherFan on Aug 14, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hack , I don't either.

And because the question of “why not” is sensibly and rationally indefensible I defer.
I do , however , wear one when riding with other people – a rarity , but they’re the only ones who give me the business.

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Aug 14, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Indefensible?

what if i told you that you were in greater danger when you rode with your helmet?

Apparently drivers are much more cautious around commuters that don’t have a helmet on because they perceive them as more vulnerable. This makes sense to a certain degree, and according to Ian Walker’s research, 23% more drivers came within a meter (3.3ft) of him when he had a helmet on as opposed to riding without.

"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"

by The Gene Hackman on Aug 14, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Crazy.
I always give cyclists a wide berth. When I was a kid we were on 17 through the Santa Cruz mountains on our way to the beach and some cyclist dude hit something in the road and slid/fell into the traffic lane. Squish went the cyclist, car behind us got him.

When I was younger and commuted by bike I wore a helmet, now I rarely ever ride in the street so I never wear a helmet.

I think a lot of it is what you grew up with. I played soccer back in ye olden days when shinguards weren’t required. The first few years after shinguards were required people bitched and moaned about it constantly. I haven’t heard any shinguard griping in some time now.

by Merope on Aug 14, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

That story is terrifying!

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good God , a defense!

Here’s one for your shaving buddies…

They shave so that road rash cleanup is easier , right?
(OK , well , just roll with me on this…)
They’re therefore assuming they’re going to crash.

I’m not going to crash , so I’m not shaving.

Besides , no hair grows on the contact areas anyway (hip , knee , elbow)…it’s afraid to.

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Aug 14, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

about the shaving the legs

dudes in the peloton shave for hygiene, as you mentioned.

BUT pro dudes shave mostly because they get a massage both before and after the race. not having any hair makes the massage easier and more comfortable for both involved.

"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"

by The Gene Hackman on Aug 17, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wait...people race bicycles as a job?

  I haven’t raced since 1996 , blind Armstrong support is as close as I get to it anymore… I forgot the massage aspect! Sensible.
  Got one massage in my entire racing career , before a stage of the Iron Horse in CO in 1982. It tickled.

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Aug 17, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

An anecdote isn't exactly proof.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Aug 14, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also

Just because not wearing a helmet may have some advantages, that doesn’t mean that those advantages make up for the clear and huge advantage that there is in wearing a helmet.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 14, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

and what are the HUGE advantages to wearing helmets, sad man?

it’s a simple risk vs reward computation that we all do every day. you don’t wear a helmet while driving a car or even skiing, but doing so would UNDOUBTEDLY make you much much safer. why not? because the reward of not wearing one outweighs the risk.

just because Bell Helmet told you you’d be safer wearing a helmet doesn’t make it so.

"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"

by The Gene Hackman on Aug 17, 2009 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

You’re making two contridicting arguments:

  • Helmets don’t make you safer, because a study showed that not wearing a helmet has its advantages.
  • Helmets do make you safer, but that’s not worth the hassle of putting them on.

If it’s the second one, fine. I didn’t say what you should or shouldn’t do. But if it’s the first, then no – all the study proved, if we assume that it did prove anything, is that there is one advantage to not wearing a helmet. It did nothing to actually prove or even argue that that advantage makes up for the disadvantages there are in not wearing a helmet.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 17, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

And I agree, BTW

That there should be no laws forcing you to wear a helmet (assuming you’re an adult). It’s that first argument you seem to be making that I have a problem with.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 17, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

nah.

What appears to be a contradiction is really the subtle complexity of the issue of safety dawning on you.

You can try to make yourself safer by protecting your head, but the act of protecting your head will make you more likely to get hurt.

If the net outcome is a greater chance of getting in an accident, you’re not safer than you were without your helmet.

"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"

by The Gene Hackman on Aug 17, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

If the net outcome is a greater chance of getting in an accident, you’re not safer than you were without your helmet.

Nope. If, for example, wearing a helmet increases your chances of getting into an accident by 10%, but also increases your chances of surviving an accident by 300%, then it does make you safer. Much, much safer, as a matter of fact. The study did not address this issue in any way. Until it does, it will remain interesting, but not really useful.

What appears to be a contradiction is really the subtle complexity of the issue of safety dawning on you.

What does this sentence mean? What does the “subtle complexity of the issue” contradict? In any case, you should try to actually explain why the two statement don’t contradict, instead of just dismissing it as a result of me being overwhlemed by the great truths I’ve just discovered thanks to your post.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 17, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

If, for example, wearing a helmet increases your chances of getting into an accident by 10%, but also increases your chances of surviving an accident by 300%, then it does make you safer. Much, much safer, as a matter of fact. The study did not address this issue in any way. Until it does, it will remain interesting, but not really useful.

if – that’s a huge if. Where do you get your numbers from? Out of your ass doesn’t count, CM.

You provide no evidence to support the claims you make in this paragraph. Just because you assert it don’t make it true. Maybe you should stop envisioning this as some pissing contest, go do some research, and then you can lay claims to “matters of fact.”

you should try to actually explain why the two statement don’t contradict, instead of just dismissing it as a result of me being overwhlemed by the great truths I’ve just discovered thanks to your post.

They’re not contradictory. The issue of helmets and bike safety is paradoxical.

A helmet will help you in some instances, instances you might never have had to experience if you weren’t wearing your helmet to begin with.

You demand that I explain my [at least partially supported] arguments but PROVIDE ABSOLUTELY NO SUPPORT for your own. You know what that’s called, right?

"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"

by The Gene Hackman on Aug 17, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

You provide no evidence to support the claims you make in this paragraph. Just because you assert it don’t make it true. Maybe you should stop envisioning this as some pissing contest, go do some research, and then you can lay claims to "matters of fact."

The numbers are just an example (which is why I said “for example”) of why this:

If the net outcome is a greater chance of getting in an accident, you’re not safer than you were without your helmet.

Isn’t necessarily true. Which it isn’t. Do you agree that it isn’t?

I provide no evidence to support my claim because my claim is that there isn’t enough evidence. The study concluded that not wearing a helmet has one advantage to it. You concluded from that that not wearing a helmet is safer than wearing it. I just said that you can’t conclude one from the other. Do you agree that you can’t conclude one from the other?

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 17, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

http://www.cycle-helmets.com/

it probably is the case that the net outcome is people were safer without helmets, and that, if increased cyclist safety was the goal of helmet laws, then helmet laws are counter-productive.

At least that’s what that ten-year study in Western Austrailia showed. Dude has done quite a bit of research, and provides a TON of evidence.

Your “IF” remains a huge if.

You’ve got to find a way to substantiate that 300% safer “theory.”

"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"

by The Gene Hackman on Aug 18, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Again...

I did not state any opinion regarding whether or not helmets make you safer. I merely said that the study you showed did not prove that wearing a helmet makes you less safe. I have no “300% theory”. It was just, like I’ve already said twice, a theoretical example of how it is possible for helmets to increase the chances of an accident and still make you safer, which is why the fact that helmets cause more accidents does not necessarily mean that they make you less safe. And let me clarify this one more time – it’s not that I know, think, hope, and/or have any evidence that helmets make you safer. I was just pointing out the flaws in the study you showed.

Now you’ve linked to a different study which apparently does a better job at proving your point, because it looks at actual injuries per cyclist, not just accidents per cyclist. That sounds very interesting, and I’m not sure why you didn’t link to it in the first place. But, all of my points regarding the flaws of the first study still stand.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 18, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

just to be clear

that “stop envisioning this as a pissing contest” remark is neither right fair or nice…

sorry about that.

srsly, tho, check out http://www.cycle-helmets.com/

"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"

by The Gene Hackman on Aug 17, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

not an anecdote, but a study

you can look it up yourself.

the safest thing you can wear while riding is a blonde wig. unless you’re actually a girl with long blond hair.

if people think you’re vunerable, they natually act more cautiously around you. If they think you’re a pro, they’ll buzz you.

"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"

by The Gene Hackman on Aug 17, 2009 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

http://www.cycle-helmets.com/

"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"

by The Gene Hackman on Aug 17, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you were the only one to pay for the consequences of your actions, then that would be great and I would totally agree with you.

I have fairly libertarian leanings on stuff like that, so I am emotionally sympathetic. But in the real world, it is usually not the case that the costs of severe head injury is contained to the individual— if uninsured, my taxes pay for your ER and subsequent care, and if insured, all other members of your insurance group’s premiums will go to cover your hugely expensive — and avoidable — care.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Aug 14, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mayor, this is the beginning of an OK argument to socialize medicine and ban for-profit insurance or perhaps restructure taxation… and the worst kind of argument for wearing a helmet.

Never in your wildest dreams would you tell somebody to “put that donut down” but those same people “cost” you money when they visit the HMO for their cholesterol related health probs. where’s the nanny law that says you need to eat broccoli 3 times a week? Oh yeah, that would be absurd.

If my tax dollars didn’t subsudize SUVs and Monster-sized trucks and cheap oil, there would be fewer motorists on the road to run me over.

I don’t mind if my taxes go to a robust universal health care program. In fact, that seems like one of the for-sure good uses of my tax dollars. I don’t want my tax dollars going to fund wars (to insure cheaper oil for more cars on the road) or corporate welfare.

"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"

by The Gene Hackman on Aug 17, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I realize that.

Yes, I realize that discussing the ramifications of an individual’s personal choices not actually being limited to that individual has some far-reaching implications. Mind you, I was not offering it as a reason for wearing a helmet, as you suggested— I was offering it as a rejection of the fallacy that nobody else has any right to dictate a behavior because it’s none of their business; yes, it damn well IS my business if you make me pay my money for your preventable and catastrophic choices. If there were some way to make sure that I am not being forced to pay for your catastrophic head injuries (god forbid you should ever suffer one), then you’re right that there would be no principled reason for legislation forcing riders to wear helmets. Of course, the drawback of that is that without medical care and subsequent life care, you would die in an alley as a vegetable not being taken care of. I don’t want to live in a society that just allows that to happen to you.

And, again, I have a broad strain of libertarianism, but I think it is important to be intellectually honest (as much as possible, anyway)— we should all do a better job of being more conscious of the effect that our “individual” choices have on others, and you raise some good examples:

I absolutely think that health insurance will eventually put limits in place on coverage for the massive diabetes-related illness in America. It’s going to have to. And yes, if I don’t do the very basic things to take care of myself, I am costing real money to everyone else in my insurance pool. (No health insurance pool can cover absolutely everything for absolutely everyone in that pool. Rationing exists now, which is basic business, not anything nefarious as is currently being portrayed by dickhead opponents of health insurance reform.) So your are right to raise this example.

I agree with you also that people with large vehicles — much larger than anyone needs, if they were being honest - do not bear the full costs of their vehicles. We all pay for their petroleum usage via the military, and those owners don’t pay extra for their disproportionate wear & tear on the roads. You’re right. I am all for very large surcharges on the annual license for those large vehicles in some effort to make them pay the true costs of their vehicles. (Call it a Rapacious Asshole Tax- RAT.)

And we can go on. I would separate out the Thoreau type stuff (not wanting to pay tax because it funds a war with which I personally disagree) as opposed to actually having to subsidize the consequences of the individual choices of other people. (Wars are, for better or worse, choices made on behalf of a polity.)

But yeah, you’re right— those of us with libertarian frames should really take a look at what truly constitutes an individual choice and what choices actually splash over significantly onto others. The donuts and overeating and stuff that I do will (a) cost money to other premium-payers in my insurance pool, and (b) deprive my little son of an active father when he reaches Little League age. If the consequences of my choices could really be borne only by me, then yeah, donut me right now. But I do bear responsibility for my choices, so I have to modify.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Aug 17, 2009 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

great discussion, mayor.

http://www.cycle-helmets.com/

I might actually be SAVING you and the state money by NOT WEARING MY HELMET.

"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"

by The Gene Hackman on Aug 18, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

The often mistaken

Anxious vs. Eager
I wish I could let this one go but it’s gone on long enough.

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by stevieg on Aug 13, 2009 10:35 PM PDT reply actions  

I don’t get how someone can confuse the two. Anxiety makes me feel like my stomach is tied up in knots in the bad way, while eagerness means the same in the good way.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 13, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

The people over at Golden State of Mind do.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

yea i know this is my 4th account because of that place…

by HOLDEMUPwuzzBANNED on Aug 14, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

The words/phrase "pet peeve"

Kind of piss me off

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Aug 13, 2009 10:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Listening to the radio at the ballgame without a mothafunkin' earphone.

A radio and earphone is two cot damned dollars at Walgreen’s folks. The game is occurring right in front of you! If you don’t understand the game, ask a friend or a neighbor about the oh-so-confusing aspects of the game. If there is something unusual or a controversy, figure it out. Or, of course, if you just want to listen to the game anyway, get a motherfunkin earphone, motherfunker.

The rest of us might not want to hear the tinny-ass hiss of AM radio from ten feet away that occupies ALL the soundspace and allows for no air, no canvas against which to hear the REAL sounds of the game. It’s just NOISE. Get a freaking earphone.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Aug 13, 2009 11:19 PM PDT reply actions  

People riding MUNI who lack common sense

If there are five people on the bus, then OK, whatever. Sit/stand wherever you like. But if it’s peak hours, MOVE TO THE BACK. Also, pulling the cord DOES NOT make the bus stop. You don’t need to pull it multiple times either. You don’t need pull it when you’re undrground either.

by Natto on Aug 13, 2009 11:30 PM PDT reply actions  

I’ve seen the back of a long bus on Geary Blvd. pretty much empty and the front packed. I had to push my way through to get to the back and people just standing there get pissed at me. Hey asshole, move to the back if you don’t want people bumping you.

by SFGuy on Aug 13, 2009 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Getting behind a woman while in a hurry to get funds out of a drive-up ATM.

If no one is behind me I just pull out of the line, but sometimes someone comes up right behind me, and the sides of the ATM line is elevated. I can be stuck there for 2 or 3 innings.

by bradleybear on Aug 13, 2009 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

why is it problematic if a woman is in front of you?

LAWL WIMMINS IS BAD DRIVERS

I’m a bad driver because I’m blind as hell.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 13, 2009 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that remark was very weird.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2009 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Awww, man. Lars made a funny comment about my weirdo comment, and now I wish I hadn’t deleted it.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2009 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t get it but now I do.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 14, 2009 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

wut?

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by jponry on Aug 14, 2009 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

It pisses me off when people get mad at me for bumping them while in a crowded bar.

I like to frequent my local watering holes and when I do there is always some prick that gets mad because I accidentally, ever-so-slightly touched his delicate skin. DON’T GO TO A BAR IF YOU ARE AFRAID OF HUMAN CONTACT, DICK.

by jnormous on Aug 14, 2009 12:04 AM PDT reply actions  

I know! I apologize and say excuse me when I need to get by. And they still act like you’re asking for a kidney.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 14, 2009 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

You should bring larger friends with you next time. That little napolean you bumped won’t say shit. Its kind of fun sometimes

by m34josh on Aug 14, 2009 2:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not a little guy. I’m 6’1" and 190. I just don’t feel the need to be a tough guy just because I’m I can.

by jnormous on Aug 14, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not being a tough guy

I’ve just found that people don’t say shit to me. I never have the opportunity to be tough guy or not. When I bump into people inadvertently they usually just shuffle aside.

Whenever we go to concerts, etc as a group – I always take the lead to get out of the crowd.

by FairweatherFan on Aug 14, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry! If I had only known that you would save the moment like that I wouldn’t have done it!

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2009 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not a problem

I saw you drowning and threw you a life line. =)

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 14, 2009 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

tell me tell me tell me

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 14, 2009 6:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

You know what really grinds my gears?

1. When you’re in line having a conversation with your buddy, and an unknown third person butts into the conversation to add their two cents.
2. Confusing To v. Too. THEY MEAN TWO DIFFERENT THINGS!
3. Annoying radio advertising jingles that get stuck in my head. Coooo-Stanza!
4. Giants leaving runners on base.

by Fresburg on Aug 14, 2009 7:24 AM PDT reply actions  

About #4

Just simply say Giants. That’s much more accurate, isn’t it?

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
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by thehavenot on Aug 14, 2009 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, it’s a sickness.

by Fresburg on Aug 14, 2009 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

But You Couldn't Tell The Difference If People Were Talking

so why does it upset you when you’re reading?

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by Viliphied on Aug 14, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

You can’t tell the difference between to and too when people are talking?

by Fresburg on Aug 14, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

GRM does get Viliphied a lot around here

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by groug on Aug 14, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pet Peeve: People

El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."

by ResDog on Aug 14, 2009 7:49 AM PDT reply actions  

to add

Animals.

El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."

by ResDog on Aug 14, 2009 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Heck, I bother me. Really, the only thing that doesn’t bother me are well-behaved children. They are precious blooming flowers in a post-apocalyptic world.

El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."

by ResDog on Aug 14, 2009 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

1. Grammatical rules that either don’t make any sense (i.e. irrational hatred of the word ain’t) or are just a byproduct of an attempt to impose Latinate structure on English (i.e. split infinitives).
2. People who are in a furious hurry to do everything in their life. From jackasses driving 120 on 80 to people who get angry just because they have to wait in line like everyone else, there is no bigger self-entitled group of a-holes on the planet.
3. Houses with too many cats.
4. People who practice economics without a license (or sometimes with one). I get particularly displeased with people who are dead certain that things like the federal stimulus will either work or not work, when anyone familiar with issue should have a healthy respect for the amount of uncertainty involved.
5. DON’t SWING AT THAT!

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Aug 14, 2009 8:47 AM PDT reply actions  

2. White people. JK. I’m white. I can make that joke right? No? I was next in line at a market/coffee shop a couple weeks ago and I had about 10 things. There’s no real general line, but it’s obvious I’m next. This pompous ass in a hawaiian shirt & jim johnson hair-do makes a cup of coffee & now he’s standing kind of to the left of me. The cashier is taking forever on the customer. Sure enough, once the previous customer is done, the guy walks right in front of me. The cashier starts ringing him up! Both are at fault. Now my wife would say “turn the cheek, you’re the better person”. She doesn’t realize that I’m not.

“Hey asshole, I was next!”
/drops merchandise on the counter & glares.

El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."

by ResDog on Aug 14, 2009 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

As a white person, let me just say that I am deeply offended.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2009 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also

We prefer to be called “people of non-color.”

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2009 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

PIE!!!

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am non-non-colored

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by merkin on Aug 14, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also, those white stick figures appear to be wearing blackface. :/

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2009 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Don’t ever worry about split infinitives.

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on Aug 14, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

It pisses me off when a waiter in an Italian restaurant mispronounces “bruschetta”, which happens surprisingly often.

Let me make this clear: Bru-SKET-ah. Not “broosheta”.

I lived in Italy for a few years so I’ve got a bunch of mispronunciations that bug me, like when people say “Med-EE-chi” instead of “MED-ici” or “Ji-berti” instead of “GEE-berti” (or, for that matter, when they say “Jiridelli chocolate” instead of “GEAR-ar-delli chocolate”, although it’s possible that the family was Americanized by that point and chose to pronounce it that way).

by Duelling Brandos on Aug 14, 2009 10:51 AM PDT reply actions  

Huh… I’ve never heard Jiridelly chocolate.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Me neither

I imagine it’s people who want to sound “cultured” who say that.

by Natto on Aug 14, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I learned at the tender age of eleven.

Sold those puppies door – to – door when I was in the Lafayette Little League.
Won $25.
Ate my share , too. And when you’re a kid you read everything…toothpaste tubes , candy bar wrappers…
“Say GEAR – AR – DELLI for fine chocolate.”

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Aug 14, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

While we're on pronunciations

It’s pronounced “Kah-rah-oh-kay” not “kare-ee-oh-kee”.

by Natto on Aug 14, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hah, the latter is far too ingrained into my vocabulary.

You want to see a walk? Then go watch the mailman.

by SeeingStars on Aug 14, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m reminded of Mike Birbiglia (bur-big-leah)

“I’ve had some people come up to me and say, ‘You know, in Italy, it’s pronounced Beer-beel-yuh.’ Yeah, well in America, you’re annoying”

Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl

by Viliphied on Aug 14, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, I hear what you’re saying, fascism on foreign pronunciation can also be tedious. But perhaps the reason why this in particular is a pet peeve of mine is because as soon as the waiter says that you just know you’re in a restaurant that doesn’t really take Italian food seriously, and you’re in for a lousy meal.

by Duelling Brandos on Aug 14, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

haha

yeah, I get that. Though I’d say you’re not necessarily in for a lousy meal, just not an authentic Italian meal.

Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl

by Viliphied on Aug 14, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I try not to get upset about that kind of stuff, but Tsingtao is pronounced “Ching dao” and Hong Chih Kuo’s name should sound something like “Hong Jur Guo.” Or to be completely accurate: “Guo Hong Jur”.

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Aug 14, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I kind of feel like an ass when I pronounce bruschetta correctly.

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on Aug 14, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

1. LOLspeak
2. “the cancer/the AIDS”
3. Fake words that come from TV shows and then I have to figure out if the speaker/writer is an actual idiot or just an idiot for letting their expressions be dictated by pop culture …

Still backing Notgardo, wheresoever he may wander. (Don't forget to wriiiite!)

by tk on Aug 14, 2009 11:45 AM PDT reply actions  

INFLAMMABLE?

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Say Hey Say Willie, that Giant Kid is Great!

by merkin on Aug 14, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Inflammable means flammable?

What a country!

Bowkermania has been put on hiatus for retooling.

by rightcenterfielder on Aug 14, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

When you text someone and make a tiny error or IM them and make a tiny error and they act like they had no clue what you were saying. Oh come on, dude, I think you can realize what I mean when I say “Goin gon a walk”

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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 14, 2009 12:25 PM PDT reply actions  

ur dude is arms straight up in te air my dude is arms diagonal air \o/

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

How's my ass taste?

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like regret tinged with the essence of hamster

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 14, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Like a drunk who’s lost a bet.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like rain on a wedding day.

by Natto on Aug 14, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s like ten-thousand spoons when all you need is one spoon.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

OH YEAH!

Wrong:

1. With regards to
2. In regards to

Right:

1. With regard to
2. In regard to
3. As regards

I think I just really don’t like stupid S’s.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2009 12:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Even more right: About

Or: As to

Fewer words & less structury structure is clearer, therefore better.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Aug 14, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

The not-using-the-blinker thing is my biggest driving peeve, but that’s been gone over. I think people are worried their blinker handle will fall off if they use it more than once a day. That’s my only guess.

Still backing Notgardo, wheresoever he may wander. (Don't forget to wriiiite!)

by tk on Aug 14, 2009 1:48 PM PDT reply actions  

As someone who routinely doesn't use a blinker

I can explain why:

I used to have a car that didn’t have functioning blinkers. In fact, two cars – one of which I still own.

So when you drive around for 5 years in a car w/ no blinkers you kinda get out of the habit of using them. Then when you get into a car w/ blinkers, you forget they are even there.

I’ll use my blinkers when I have to force my way through traffic or otherwise communicate to other drivers what I intend to do as there might be some confusion.

But when I’m changing lanes into an open space and I don’t need any action from any other drivers to make that possible – I often just do it.

by FairweatherFan on Aug 14, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here's one I forgot:

Stupid, obnoxious, jack ass neighbors that don’t understand what it means to live in an apartment and BLARE their freaking music at decibels that move the pictures on your walls.
And who smoke right outside your bedroom window at 2am.

These people are the poster children for the pro-retroactive abortion movement.

by Merope on Aug 14, 2009 2:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Also:

Stupid, self righteous and self absorbed people who don’t understand what it means to live in an apartment and expect all of their neighbors to be library-quiet at all hours of the day.

by FairweatherFan on Aug 14, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apartments are tough, the guy in the next building, near where I park my car, is in the medical field and works nights, I always try to be quiet going past his place.

by Merope on Aug 14, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure, but

You are paying a lower rent to live in an apartment – and part of that is you have to be able to deal with people and their noise as long as it’s not unreasonable.

If you work nights and live in an apt complex – I’d suggest earplugs.

by FairweatherFan on Aug 14, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m looking at you neighbors who called the cops on us for a noise complaint at 1130 PM on the FOURTH OF GODDAMN JULY when there were a grand total of 5 of us in the apartment, none drunk, sitting around watching a movie.

Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl

by Viliphied on Aug 14, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

Or the neighbors who left a note on my door that my (gas) BBQ was making their apt smokey and smell disgusting.

WELL CLOSE THE FUCKING WINDOWS FOR 45 MINUTES THE ONE DAY A WEEK I MIGHT BBQ SOMETHING. DO YOU SEE ME LEAVING A NOTE THAT YOUR COOKING MAKES MY APARTMENT SMELL LIKE CURRY?

Thankfully, I now live in a house.

by FairweatherFan on Aug 14, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

WORD

"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"

by The Gene Hackman on Aug 14, 2009 3:04 PM PDT reply actions  

This is directed at the McCoven

So you’ll have to forgive me:

It’s pronounced vi-ya-lo-na, not vi-la-lo-na, so stop using AnVil as his nickname. You’d think that with all the Mexican food talk around here, people would know that. You don’t say “tor-ti-la”, do you?

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 14, 2009 3:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Mr. Merope says some people in Ohio do say tor til la

by Merope on Aug 14, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well then that’s a whole different problem. But at least they an excuse – the closest thing Ohio has to a Hispanic population is some guy in Dayton named Jimbo. I expect better from Californians.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 14, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate people who make sweeping generalizations about Ohio. The urban centers have fairly large hispanic populations—-not on a California scale, but it’s easy to find authentic mexican groceries.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Aug 15, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

You…you hate me?

:-(

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 15, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Even your sadness seems happy now.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
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by groug on Aug 15, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Too harsh. I hate it “when” people…

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Aug 15, 2009 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

So I can get a decent burrito in Cleveland/Columbus/Cincinnati?

Supporting San Francisco Dugout since 2005 and Manny Burriss since 2006. Bringing you all your California League and New York-Penn League needs since 2009.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 15, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

As someone who lived in the Mission for 6 months and ate California burritos non-stop, I can say yes. The fleet of taco trucks in this city is top notch.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Aug 15, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

What position do you play?

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 16, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Centerfield. I have good range and a strong arm.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 16, 2009 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good point

Which would you prefer, Canvas house, or Tent town?

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Aug 14, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I always have pronounced it that way, but Anvil is just so cool. I never capitalize the v in it though.

by Natto on Aug 14, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

AnVil

I actually pronounce it An-Vee.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

And to be perfectly fair to me

I was the guy who suggested The Missing Linc as a nickname for Tim Lincecum.

So clearly, this pronunciation crap doesn’t matter to me.

(Also, I know it’s not quite the same thing, even though it really, really looks like it is – creating a nickname because of the way a name is spelled is a lot different from creating one because you actually can’t say it the right way)

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree 200%

How is that possible? Because I agree with the point that “AnVil” virtually requires a mispronunciation of the guy’s name, AND would add another pet peeve is this dumbass cliche’ nickname construction of first letter/syllable of first name + first syllable of last name. It was done to death and back with A-Rod, and then hundreds of players ever since. (Um, can I leave it at that Cooky, or do I have to lay out a table with lots of examples of this nickname?) (I kid! I kid!)

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Aug 14, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

But unlike those other names, Anvil is an actual word. That is why I encourage people not to capitalize the V in it.

by Natto on Aug 14, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

M-Three

El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."

by ResDog on Aug 14, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, it is pronounced that way.

That doesn’t disqualify Anvil as a fantastic nickname, IMO.

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on Aug 14, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

OT story from the OT thread

I sat in my isle seat and eight my bratworst weighting for pitch. The pitcher tried to jamb the hitter butt the affect of the err maid it leek out over the plate. The hitter mist the bawl, and then stood they’re stationary, like a dear in head lites. Despite having a canon four an arm, he didn’t pique at the write time and would not Basque in glory nor cache in on free agency. In fact he would spend the rest of his daze working in San Jose as the Guerrilla.

Daily Gameball and Joker at GIANTSBOARD.COM
Say Hey Say Willie, that Giant Kid is Great!

by merkin on Aug 14, 2009 4:21 PM PDT reply actions  

I couldn't read this

It was playing havoc with my brain.

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on Aug 14, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just pretended it was a 5 year old’s writing sample, now if you’ll excuse me I need an aspirin.

by Merope on Aug 14, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate when people write in shortcut

Such as using 2 instead of to or b instead of be (unless it’s a song title).

by SFGuy on Aug 14, 2009 7:46 PM PDT reply actions  

After listening to the broadcast today, I have a new one

John Miller saying “the so called wildcard division”

1) It’s not a division

2) it’s only so called by you.

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Aug 14, 2009 8:43 PM PDT reply actions  

And I just logged in here to say that same thing

And what the heck is “Wild Card Champion”


And I also hate it when Bhaakon and I agree on something =)

Daily Gameball and Joker at GIANTSBOARD.COM
Say Hey Say Willie, that Giant Kid is Great!

by merkin on Aug 14, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

First draft of this banner:

“2008 National League
Wild Card Um Recipient Hmm Occupant Uh Winner Of Sorts Champions”

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Aug 14, 2009 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thats like the trophies they gave the last place team that says “Participant”

Daily Gameball and Joker at GIANTSBOARD.COM
Say Hey Say Willie, that Giant Kid is Great!

by merkin on Aug 14, 2009 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Official Selection” at Sundance.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes!

The ad in the newspaper:

WINNER!
Selection Notice, Sundance Film Festival

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Aug 15, 2009 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did we actually just rant and rave for two days about annoying pet peevey things, and not bring up the Giants offense? Hacking at slop nightly etc etc…

by Merope on Aug 14, 2009 9:19 PM PDT reply actions  

That's far beyond the level of a pet peeve.

Somewhere between loathing with a passion and hatred burning with the power of 10,000 suns.

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Aug 14, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

+ 200,000 suns

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Aug 14, 2009 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s what every other Fanpost is about.

by Natto on Aug 14, 2009 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't forget gameday threads

And casual conversations with friends and acquaintances. And coworkers. And on dates.

And writing in journals.

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on Aug 14, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

People on NinersNation who are both ridiculously condescending and unbearably arrogant.

Even if the person talking to them isn’t me but, for example, howtheyscored.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Aug 15, 2009 4:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Aug 15, 2009 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I mean, seriously… I honestly don’t know why I keep going back to it. I know that there’s no reasonable way to expect anything but a nonsensical and condescending response to whatever I say… and yet… I can’t… stop… posting…

Somebody help me…

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Aug 15, 2009 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I said serious things and he responded in his patented GeoMak way, I think my only response would be “You’re not worth talking to.”

Because he really really isn’t.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Aug 15, 2009 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know! What’s wrong with me!?

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Aug 15, 2009 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

That small part of you that hopes you can prove him wrong is beating out the more rational self-aware side that knows he’ll never give in.

It’s very common on the Internet.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Aug 15, 2009 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

When people laugh at themselves in their Facebook/Twatter/etc. updates

“I’m really stupid, LOL! I locked my keys in the car hahaha! Again! Maybe I should marry a locksmith X D”

And on the same note, people who constantly use Facebook as their personal therapist. Especially when begging for attention. “Why do SOME people have to BE that way?!” “Wow. I can’t believe he did that…”. So frickin’ annoying, do you not realize how many people are reading this? And how many of those people are no more than acquaintances and couldn’t give a shit about your life?

by gvp914 on Aug 17, 2009 9:55 AM PDT reply actions  

What’s a Facebook?

ps
Get off my lawn!!!

by Merope on Aug 17, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

One time I found out two of my friends broke up through AIM away messages

Awk-ward!

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Aug 17, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

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