minor lines, 8/11/09
by steve S on Aug 12, 2009 1:25 AM PDT
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PrintHighlights from the Giants' farm: (a,b,c) Brandon Crawford, Eddy Martinez-Esteve, and Mike Mooney each had two XBH for Connecticut; and (d) Roger Kieschnick had his organization-leading 22nd HR while reaching base twice.
AAA: Fresno lost to Oklahoma City 7-3
Fresno: CF Clay Timpner: 2 for 3, HBP
Fresno: 2B Kevin Frandsen: 1 for 3, 2B, BB
Fresno: C Steve Holm: 1 for 4, HR, SO
Fresno: RHP Matt Kinney: 6.0 IP, 8 H, 7 R, 7 ER, 2 BB, 7 K--2 HR
Timpner, who had gone 0 for 10 in his last three games, had two of the Grizzlies' seven hits. Frandsen was the only other Grizzly to reach base twice as no Grizzly drew a walk. With two outs in the 9th inning, Holm went deep for his 9th HR.
Kinney allowed 6+ ER for the second time in his last three starts, although it was also only the second time in his six starts he had allowed more than 2 ER. His season ERA is back over 5.50.
AA: Connecticut lost to Akron 6-4
Connecticut: RF Eddy Martinez-Esteve: 2 for 4, 2 2B
Connecticut: SS Brandon Crawford: 2 for 4, 2 2B, SO
Connecticut: CF Mike Mooney: 2 for 4, 3B, 2B
Akron: C Carlos Santana: 3 for 5, 3B, 2B
Connecticut: LHP Jesse English: 5.0+ IP, 5 H, 5 R, 3 ER, 5 BB, 1 K--1 WP
EME, Crawford, and Mooney combined not only for six of the Defenders' eight hits, but also all six of their XBHs. EME now has 27 doubles, and Crawford 24 doubles. Mooney had his 5th triple and 16th double. EME raised his AVG to an even .300. Through ten games this month, Crawford is hitting .375/.375/.675 in 40 AB with over half his hits for extra bases. Santana, the Indians' top prospect, had his 2nd triple and 25th double among three hits to improve his season line to .288/.410/.545 through 347 AB.
English had his third straight start with at least five innings but less than six innings. With the 5 BB and 1 K, English's K/BB ratio fall below 1.50. English had issued either two or three walks in each of his past seven starts, dating back to a start in mid-June in which he issued seven walks.
A+: San Jose lost to Bakersfield 5-3
(allowing four runs in the 1st inning)
San Jose: DH Roger Kieschnick: 1 for 3, HR, BB, SO, SB
San Jose: LHP Paul Oseguera: 4.1 IP, 6 H, 5 R, 5 ER, 2 BB, 5 K--2 HR
San Jose: RHP Ryan Shaver: 1.2 IP, 1 BB, 2 K
Kieschnick's 22nd HR was one of just three hits for the Giants.
After pitching eight full innings in each of his last two starts, Oseguera had his worst start since being promoted to San Jose. In his twelfth start for the Giants, he allowed a season-high 5 ER in a season-low 4.1 IP. Shaver faced just five hitters to get five outs. He has yet to allow a run through five appearances with San Jose.
A-: Augusta defeated Lake County 8-4
Augusta: DH MIke Loberg: 2 for 4, BB, SO
Augusta: SS Ehire Adrianza: 1 for 3, 2B, SH
Augusta: LHP Eric Surkamp: 5.2 IP, 8 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 3 BB, 8 K
Augusta: RHP Edwin Quirarte: 2.0 IP, 3 H, 2 BB, 3 K
Augusta: RHP Chris Wilson: 1.1 IP, 3 K
Lake County: RHP Jason Knapp: 2.0 IP, 1 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 2 K--1 WP
Loberg reached base three times, but his OBP remains just .315. Adrianza's 13th double was the GreenJackets' only XBH.
Continuing a season trend, Surkamp had both more hits and more strikeouts than innings pitched. He now has 111 H and 130 K in 103.2 IP. Allowing more than 2 ER for just the second time in his last ten starts (with nineteen starts total this year), his season ERA crept up to 3.73. Quirarte retired just six of the eleven batters he faced, but he did not allow run, although he did allow an inherited runner to score. Wilson struck out three of the four batters he faced. He has an impressive 45 K and 6 BB in 36.2 IP this year, but a .328 BAA has led to an ERA over 5.00. The nearly 19-year-old Knapp, who was part of the Cliff Lee trade, made his debut in the Indians' organization. WIth the Phillies' Sally League affiliate earlier this year, he was hard to hit with 63 H and 111 K in 85.1 IP. For whatever reason, he was limited to 2.0 IP in this start.
ssA: Salem-Keizer lost to Spokane 5-3
Salem-Keizer: SS Ryan Cavan: 1 for 3, BB, SO
Salem-Keizer: RHP Craig Westcott: 5.0 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 8 K--1 HB
Cavan (16th rounder) was the only Volcano to reach base twice. He is now hitting .266/.398/.403 through his 139 pro AB.
Westcott (30th rounder) had a career-high 8 K in his third NWL start. So far in his pro career, he has 37 K in 23.1 IP.
DSL: Giants defeated Dodgers 8-3
Dominican: RF Robedluis Fuentes: 3 for 4, 2B, SO
Dominican: RHP Lorenzo Mendoza: 7.0 IP, 12 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 0 BB, 0 K
Fuentes (20.11 y.o.) raised his OPS above .300 with today's three-hit performance. Mendoza (18.0 y.o.) uncharactistically allowed a season-high 12 H, but his BAA remains just .241. He still improved his W-L record to 7-0.
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Posey?
From the Fresno Bee:
Posey moved: Catcher Buster Posey, the top hitting prospect in the Giants’ organization, was transferred to the extended roster. Posey, involved in a weekend collision at the plate, had heated up, batting .361 (13 for 36) in his past 10 games, including four home runs in his past six.
I think it means he is in Az right now for extended spring training
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 12, 2009 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions
I swear to Gerald, nothing irratates me more than the lack of information about the conditions of certain minor leaguers (i.e Busta Bust). Right now, Buster is about the only thing I wake up for in the morning. He’s our best freaking prospect and for some reason it’s like top secret information when he doesn’t play. Like if Sandoval just dissapeared off the roster we wouldn’t all be like, “What the hell, where’s Pablo?” We just scored 4 runs in the last 3 games and the only hope on the horizon is now on the “extended roster” and might be in Arizona doing who knows what for who knows why? Maybe it’s just the homestand getting to me, but I feel like storming the Giants offices and taking hostages until they deliver Gerald to me safe and sound. OMG THIS SHIIT IZ PISSING ME OFFT!!!!
Baron had this news yesterday. He’s not in Arizona, just not on the active roster for a few days. If I had to read between the lines I’d say between the head beaning just before his promotion and the recent collision at the plate they’re taking precautions against concussive issues.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
I’m really not sure what extended roster means. I was just taking a shot, and I missed. I think MiLB teams might have some “hidden” roster space to put players that are not currently playing but nee dto be somewhere (i.e. Promotion/demotion/injury)
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 12, 2009 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions
minor league teams can put players on “reserve”. From what I can tell it’s most frequently used with starting pitchers who won’t play for a few more days after a start.
they also frequently assign players to extended spring training, though the players don’t actually report there. it’s another way to free up roster spots when they know a particular player won’t be used for a few days or so.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 12, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Actually, if sandoval disappeared off the roster, we’d probably have four fanshots and two fanposts saying “where the hell is pablo?”
kind of like the infamous accidental dfa
VOTE SANDOVAL
Adopted Giant: Henry Sosa
by raisingcain on Aug 12, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m still pissed that we lost Romo to the Nationals that way. The fact that he turned into an All-Star closer for them just makes it worse.
Oh wait.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
he was removed the next half inning right after going from first to third on a double. maybe he had some dizziness (pure speculation). otherwise, I thought he may tweaked a muscle or something.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 12, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Crawford’s good! Top prospect!
Crawford’s no good! Strikes out too much!
I lurve Crawford! He’s good! Top Prospect!
Crawford’s no good! SSS at A+!
Crawford’s good! OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG! He has the glove of an angel and can hit for Xtra baseses!
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
Yup
If BB-Ref ever adds minor league game logs, I will go nuts. I would love to do some selective endpointing on minor leaguers (TWSS).
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.
Line Drive %: 39!!!
Sustainable! I was worried about his ~.400 BABIP, but he’s clearly just killing the ball right now.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.
He’s no Brett Pill
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
I thought his name was pronounced Brandon Belt…
Still the loving, adoptive father of Hector Sanchez. And who doesn't love switch-hitting catchers with power and patience?
I’ll agree to call other players in the system “Brandon Belt” only if Brandon Belt will agree to sign. Brandon, you reading this?
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Aug 12, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
You could start with spelling his name right…..LOL I know this is basically a “rag” board, but you seem to have a certain fondness for him with the sarcastic comments you seem to make after every reference with his name in it (and this one wasn’t even from me). Maybe a love/hate relationship?
We’re just giving you a hard time because we wonder why you love Pill so much, I wouldn’t take it too seriously. Are you friends with him, do you know him, are you him?
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.
LOL. I already asked him that.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
He probably wondered what the hell you were talking about. Doubt if any of the Defenders, or any Giants players at any level, even know about McCovey Chronicles. Like I have said before, just a fan that really likes the way he plays and don’t think he gets much credit, on here anyway. It has been mentioned before – when do the Giants brass ever get out to Connecticut. I know he wasn’t a million dollar guy, and those guys have to go above and beyond to even be considered prospects. Just trying to promote him a little. I do occasionally make comments on other Defenders players in case you haven’t noticed.
by flyonthewall on Aug 12, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Pill might have made a solid platoon partner with TI next year, but I guess that’s over with Garko here now.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.
Mostly we’re just funning you Fly.
However, I should say, the whole thing about Giants brass never getting to CT, btw, is a basic misunderstanding of how major league organizations work, I think. Sabean doesn’t go there, but neither does he go visit other franchises much (Fresno people made the same complaint a few years ago during a nasty franchise renegotiation). And it’s not just Sabean, GM’s in general don’t watch their minor league affiliates. Primarily they watch the major league team, they don’t scout at all (though Brian likes to cross check before drafts). I remember during the ‘81 the GM (I think it was Haller at the time) spent much of the time in Phoenix and he said that a side benefit of the strike was it allowed him to watch his minor league players for the first time since he’d taken the job. Bob Brenly was the primary beneficiary of this as he caught Haller’s eye and was on the big league club soon after.
However, the organization does have people watching the team with great frequency and they report up the chain of command. First and foremost they have a coaching staff who they pay great attention to putting in place every winter and who makes daily reports. Then there’s the raft of scouts sitting behind home plate at all home games (the vast majority of whom are Giant’s scouts) who also report up. Then you have the roving instructors employed in the system. And finally there are the guys who are in charge of the minor league system, Stanley and Evans, who typically make a couple trips to each affiliate each year. The people’s who job it is to watch the system and report up watch the system and report. The people whose job it is to listen to those people and act on their advice, listen and act.
And as for non-million dollar guys not getting considered, Pill’s own draft really disproves that idea. The 2006 draft obviously had one million dollar dandy at the top in Lincecum who deservedly flew threw the minors. And then that draft had a whole bunch of college players who were more noted for being well-rounded defensive minded players than strong hitters. Despite nobody putting up flashy minor league numbers, 4 other members of that draft have already appeared in the majors (Burriss, Rohlinger, Bocock, Downs), including two, Bocock and Downs drafted after or significantly after Pill (Pill was the 7th round pick, Downs the 36th). The draft also included 17th rounder Kevin Pucetas, who seems to have the caught the brass’ fancy this winter and been fast-tracked, and 5th rounder Michael McBryde, who was also initially fast tracked to Fresno this year.
In fact, it seems quite likely that Pill will receive a major league camp invite next year, might well be protected on the 40 man, and I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see him in an SF uni at some point in time, even though the Garko trade obviously blocks his path somewhat. 1B is still not a solved problem for the Giants by any means, and if Pill keeps hitting he’ll get his look at some point (or be leveraged into a trade and get it elsewhere).
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Thanks, Roger, for outlining what goes on in regards to the minor leagues. I agree that there have definitely been players drafted in the lower rounds who get a chance, and some even make it. I was just pointing out that it seems to be harder for them and that they really have to go above and beyond to be noticed. The prospects are already being watched very closely. In regards to the college guys, I think they are programmed to play “for the team” – especially at places like Cal State Fullerton, who is known for their team/small ball philosophy. Then when they are drafted their whole mindset has to change. Yes, they want their team to win, but it is basically about YOU, and doing what they want you to do to move up in the system. Probably the hardest part must be worrying about who is in front of you and who is coming up behind you. If you can handle that mental aspect of minor/major league baseball, then that is what will separate you and make you succeed. It has to be tough – so many guys out there.
Going back to my “rooting for the underdog”, I love to see when players like you mentioned get a chance, although sometimes they are moved up too early and are not quiet ready. Then they can get stuck in Fresno forever. Burriss and Bocock are examples of that, as well as Rohlinger. Ryan was in no way ready to move up in regards to his maturity level – nice to see how well he is doing in Fresno. Talented pitchers get noticed more quickly because every team is looking for good pitchers. With position players it’s more about how well you hit, although they do look at your defense somewhat. With the Giants, they seem to just stick a guy at any position if he is hitting – at least that is what I have noticed with the major league team. I personally can’t understand the Garko deal, as he is a marginal player in all aspects of the game. But that’s the Giants for you.
We’ll see what they do with Pill. If they don’t feel they need him I’m sure, as you said, there are other teams out there who would love to have him. Look at how well Scott Barnes and Tim Alderson are doing – in different uniforms.
Thanks again for comments.
by flyonthewall on Aug 13, 2009 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Scott Barnes beats the Defenders tonight
in his Debut A debut. He went 5 IP, 4 hits two runs (Pill’s 15th HR a two run job, RBI total now 90) 6 Ks and no walks and looked pretty good.
http://gregsconnecticutdefenders.blogspot.com
adopted parent of Bond, Brock Bond...
That one sure came back to bite ‘em in the butt. Another stupid move by the Giants, even though we’re not talking about the MLB Giants here. But this is the Minor Lines, right?
by flyonthewall on Aug 12, 2009 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I was pretty livid about that trade when it happened.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.
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