Open Hate on Victorino Thread
by i did my job on Jul 9, 2009 4:01 PM PDT
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PrintThere's a lot that we have to quibble with right now: the insane vote-padding allowed by the unlimited-vote policy (which we admittedly partook in), the fact that the Phillies already filled their quota of undeserving All-Stars with Ryan Howard, the fact that Manuel was already going to stick Victorino on the squad to replace the injured Beltran and now has license to use Jayson Werth instead... but we particularly need to let a few numbers and images sink into our skulls.
Pablo Sandoval: .326/.379/.560, 2.7 WAR
Shane Victorino: .308/.372/.464, 1.7 WAR
Commence.
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i’m a ranger fan and voted for sandoval and kinsler a LOT of times. as a fan it sucks that your guy didn’t make it, but victorino is certainly deserving. i imagine kins and sandoval have an inside track if there’s an injury.
The dance of the puppets
The rusted chains of prison moons
Are shattered by the sun.
I walk a road, horizons change
The tournaments begun.
Deserving?
=/
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no
i would have voted for sandoval even if kinsler weren’t on the list for the AL.
i think there are players on the NL roster that victorino is more deserving than.
both players are better than ryan howard.
and sandova is clearly better than zimmerman (but there’s that rule that each club has to be represented)
and both were better than freddie sanchez (see zimmerman)
neither team NEEDS 13 pitchers.
The dance of the puppets
The rusted chains of prison moons
Are shattered by the sun.
I walk a road, horizons change
The tournaments begun.
howard>victorino
apparently the adoptive parent of the 2nd best hitter on the team.
/shrug
by lincypoo i wuv u on Jul 10, 2009 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions
not really
howard hits a lot of homers, but that’s about it
The dance of the puppets
The rusted chains of prison moons
Are shattered by the sun.
I walk a road, horizons change
The tournaments begun.
In 09 they each have a WAR of 1.8. In 08 Victorino was almost a win better. In 06-07 Howard was waay better.
I hadnt realized Howard’s declined so much and Victorino’s gotten better since then.
OT: Why is Howard’s bb% and babip much lower now than before?
apparently the adoptive parent of the 2nd best hitter on the team.
/shrug
by lincypoo i wuv u on Jul 10, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
and this is the hate thread. no Rectumface apologists!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 9, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Not that you’re suggesting that an injury should, um, unexpectedly occur. Right? Right? Ahem. I’d hate for anyone to get that idea. Really.
No, really, I have updated my blog this year: http://skaldheim.livejournal.com/tag/baseball
An injury should, um, unexpectedly occur to Victorino. If it came at the hands of Conor Jackson, I think that would be perfectly okay (in a not really wishing injury on another person sort of way).
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 9, 2009 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Pablo has a 145 OPS+ and a .400 wOBA, I can’t even imagine the numbers he’d put up in that midget ball park
he deserves to be kicked in the nuts
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 9, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 9, 2009 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions
nah
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 9, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
No, he’s not very deserving at all. His hitting stats are decent, but not very spectacular considering he’s playing in baseball’s most hitter-friendly park. That, and UZR has him as a below average fielder (-7.8). It would’ve been one thing if Pablo lost to a good player like Matt Kemp or Mark Reynolds, but Victorino has absolutely no business playing in the All Star Game. He’s not that good. But we don’t hate Victorino just because he snubbed Pablo; it’s his on field jackassery that makes him so hateable.
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Victorino is not deserving. He’s a ridiculously dirty player who does something to disgrace the league on a monthly basis. He’s an asshole and nobody should like him. Philly fans shouldn’t even like him. There is no excuse for his ass-play, and he doesn’t deserve to be recognized as a representative of MLB, much less the National League.
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by howtheyscored on Jul 9, 2009 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions
but he’s such an asshole that Philly fans DO like him!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 9, 2009 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Something you might not realize
Is that we’ve already hated Victorino for some time – he was guilty of some serious dishittery during a Giants game back in 2007, and got away with it, and was incredibly smug about it, too.
Also, he wasn’t particularly deserving. He hasn’t been as good as Sandoval, Matt Kemp, or, arguably, Mark Reynolds this year. He was clearly more deserving than Cristian Guzman (how he got on the ballot is beyond me), but that’s it.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
As I posted elsewhere
Sandoval has been better than Victorino this year in the following categories: AVG, OBP, SLG, OPS+, doubles, home runs, RBIs, Total Bases. According to Fangraphs, he’s been significantly better than Victorino as a hitter and a fielder this year.
So, no, not deserving.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
He’s been guilty of some serious asshatery against a lot of teams. The Giants don’t have much to complain about compared to some of the other shit he’s pulled around the league.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 9, 2009 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Such as?
I’m really only aware of his asinine baseline play.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
He gave Conor Jackson a concussion by getting into a collision at first base, the same way you would if you were trying not to get thrown out at home. Really, he RAN into the first baseman to try to break up the out. It’s disgusting.
Actually, I’m not sure if it was a concussion, but Jackson left the game and was hurt in a sort of scary way.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 9, 2009 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah, right, I do recall hearing about that.
In any case, regardless of how other fans feel, the fact remains that there’s some long-standing Victorino hate ’round these parts.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
Fucking dickhead.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 9, 2009 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
And the thing I don’t get is that the league has done nothing about it! The guy has repeatedly broken rules and endangered the safety and health of his peers. And not so much as a peep from league.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 9, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
More highlights:
1) I guess that fielder’s interference trick is a favorite of his!
2) There’s a picture somewhere of him sliding into second, grabbing Alex Cora’s leg on the way to past to try to break up the play. As in, hand wrapped around ankle. I can’t find the picture though. And I saw it just the other day!
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by howtheyscored on Jul 9, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
stay classy, punk.
after seeing this two pics, i hope he gets spiked in the line of fire. I don’t wish injury, just enough of a painful reminder that bush league behavior like this has consequences.
wtf? I hope if he keeps this shit up, the second baseman “accidentally” loses control of his leg and kicks him in the face.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 10, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Dude needs to DIAF.
emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 10, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Fucking asshole
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 10, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
You probably don’t realize that Victorino has a history with the Giants. He’s one of the few non-Dodgers that most Giant fans despise.
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
BUT HE WAS A DODGER!!!!!!!!!
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by say hey nation on Jul 10, 2009 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Evil is born from a common source.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 10, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
*takes off glasses*
… My God.
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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
He was also Rule 5’d two or three times and returned!!!!!LOL
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by say hey nation on Jul 10, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Now if you’ll excuse me I have to go home and put some food in Victorino’s mom’s dish.
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This is confirmed. I saw the yes/no/maybe note with my own eyes.
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by howtheyscored on Jul 9, 2009 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions
In all honesty
I’m not really sweating this very much.
The ASG didn’t need another reason to be a total farce. Victorino didn’t need another reason for us to disembowel him verbally. And we didn’t need another example of something or someone meeting with success solely on the strength of a fucking catchphrase.
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by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jul 9, 2009 4:24 PM PDT reply actions
Not Only is he undeserving
but he was embarrassingly campaigning for himself. Pablo wins in the class category as well. I do not. Victorino is my new player to hate and Phillies fans have always been douchebags but now they’ve climbed to Masshole status.
Another reason to hate: the fact that the utterly retarded slogan “Bran Torino” is now plastered all over mlb.com and will most assuredly be the lead in on baseball tonight (for the six people who watch anything but the web gems.)
Apparently all we had to do was dub our campaign “Kindoval” or something and we would’ve been golden.
"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."
Let the hate flow through you.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 9, 2009 4:30 PM PDT reply actions
I'm totally pissed about this
I’ve been hating on Victorino all season. He’s a jackass and I hate him. I can’t believe Sandoval won’t make the team. And you’re absolutely right about Manuel being able to add him because of injury. Charlie Manuel is a douche!!
Manuel will probably pick Feliz due to an injury, which would be the ultimate slap in the face. He already picked Howard b/c that’s his guy, not b/c he was deserving.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 9, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
yes.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 9, 2009 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
How were you able to get a picture from his family reunion?
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awkward family photo!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 9, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
He looks like quite the little stinker.
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by UnleashTheGore on Jul 9, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
how unfortunate
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by rightcenterfielder on Jul 9, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not happy about this at all, but what really pisses me off is that his walk-off hit last night clinched it for him. SO CLUTCH
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I think someone may have said it already but I think the biggest reason was the cutoff time.
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Never even thought about the time difference, but yeah, that has to have played an important role.
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we were sleeping and they were voting! not fair!! Keep the polls open on the west coast!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 9, 2009 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions
sour grapes and all that bitterness aside...
the cutoff time definitely favors east coast teams.
when ESPN and MLB highlight east coast games that just finished, the rest of the country hears about it for the rest of the night. Victorino’s recent performances definitely impacted the race (as it should).
However, Sandoval hits a grand slam to win the game at 10pm PST, and, well, the rest of the country’s asleep.
MAYBE it breaks the news on the 1am Sportscenter. And a ticker the next morning. Then we’re back to "Jeter went with 2%milk this morning) and “can Manuel’s Phillies catch up to our Mets?!”
*Sigh……………. (Depressed)……. =(
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by i love sports101 on Jul 9, 2009 5:15 PM PDT reply actions
I’m filled with rage over the blatant bias shown over the past 24 hours. Victorino was EVERYWHERE. articles everywhere about it. To me, he was the 4th most deserving player on the list, and I think we can all agree that he would have made the team anyway. I can’t help but think that Manuel will replace Beltran with another OF, though i hope he doesn’t
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that’s what got me too, he was pimping himself all over.
I love the Pandaman, but with his accent I don’t think he it would have worked too well for him to be going on all the chat shows and talking himself up.
plus that’s not his style. I was listening radioside monday night and they were making it sound like he didn’t want to do a curtain call after the grand slam. He seems to just love playing the game and would love to be in the ASG, but he’s not going to pimp himself.
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by Speedforthewin on Jul 9, 2009 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions
They were showing pro-Victorino ads during the Giants post-game show on CSN last night. It was kind of disgusting.
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by howtheyscored on Jul 9, 2009 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I miss FSN, by the way. They seemed to do things pretty right.
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by howtheyscored on Jul 9, 2009 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions
at least kemp was an afterthought. right guys?
guys?
On 5/7, the best part of waking is up LOLDGERS in my cup.
this morning I read that Chone Figgins was sitting at his locker voting for himself with his cellphone. I guess any of his supporters gave up on him…
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 9, 2009 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 9, 2009 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Word on the street is that Shane Victorino hates pie!
Liking Victorino is like throwing away a pie.
Some silver lining
I truly hate Victorino as much as a route canal performed by Stevie Wonder with Richard Simmons whispering sweet nothings in my ear but one good thing to come out of this is when we sign Panda long term, as we should, he wont have the all-star card to play and maybe we can sign him a little bit cheaper than if he did.
I dunno, fuck Victorino still.
Panda, maybe one day when this is all over we can get an apartment together!
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I agree that he’s a big jerk for mentioning it.
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by howtheyscored on Jul 9, 2009 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions
wow
Route canal. My love is complete.
Please don’t let my old college see this, they may take my degrees away.
homophonic and homophobic in the same sentence!
Congratulations!
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by Mayor of 311 on Jul 9, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I heard Victorino likes to eat puppies and punch babies
(Or is it eat babies and punch puppies?)
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
I first read this as “pound babies.”
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by howtheyscored on Jul 9, 2009 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions
There was this guy
in high school named Shane Victoriano who used to hold court and describe in graphic detail how he would ass fuck his girlfriend (who went to another school, naturally). He would preen as he looked at all the amazed faces in the circle, assuming I imagine that we were all so impressed; of course what we were really all slack-jawed about was a)how full of shit he was, and b) even if he was telling the truth, how shockingly classless it was (yes, even to a group of teenaged boys) that he would relay that kind of detail to that many people.
This is whom I think of when I see Shane Victorino play baseball.
by VidaWantsYourCar on Jul 9, 2009 6:06 PM PDT reply actions
that's why he carries condoms around in his pocket
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 9, 2009 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions
we should all just turn our backs like he doesn’t exist…
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 9, 2009 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it’s perfectly reasonable to want to destroy Philadelphia now, right?
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too late.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 9, 2009 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions
To the victor go the spoils
Philadelphia won the Series last year, and Victorino was in the national spotlight. Nobody knows anyone on the Giants. If they had a fan vote for best pitcher in the league, Lincecum would lose by a million votes to Johan Santana. When I tell Met and Yankee fans about Pablo Sandoval, they barely know who he is. We’re finally starting to be good, and soon our players will be well known everywhere. This was a fan vote, for God’s sake. We complain about their stupid voting for the all star team in general every year, and we’re surprised they didn’t pick the best player in this vote?
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They already had their gimmie WS player getting in
Ryan Howard
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this
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by Speedforthewin on Jul 9, 2009 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Thing is, the all-star voting in general was pretty decent this year. The only egregiously bad choices were Pedroia and Hamilton. So no, the Final Vote is not up to the standard set by the previous form of misguided fan democracy.
"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."
by i did my job on Jul 9, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I like Victorino
but I’d like him an awful lot better if he played in SF.
What horse’s arse ever decided fans should vote for all-stars anyway? If you’re going to have an all-star game, it would be nice if it actually featured all-stars as opposed to people voted in by repetitive stress-inducing obsessive clicking, or (for the regular all-stars) whoever gets the biggest piles of ballots to punch out, complete with hanging chads. It’s always been ludicrous, but this click-o-rama-fest was the most completely stupid. Particularly since it resulted in Pablo not making the team.
Of course, if he were still a catcher he would have made the team without resorting to Chicago voting.
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I don't care about the fan vote
But Victorino was always a douche. I hated him before and I wouldn’t want him on my team.
I'm pissed as shit right now!
I must have voted clear over 150 times, lost count two days ago.
I want the final tally. I want Bud Selig to show us the damn results. I want Bud Selig to break his hip, maybe fall down some stairs or something- at least turn his ankle or hit his funny bone really hard. (what he really needs to do is to make the game matter- put the best players in the game regardless of team, or quit acting like it does matter and call it the sham pomp-and-ceremony that it is).
The fix was totally in on this one.
Chris Cohan- YOU'RE FIRED!
while I don’t agree that there was a fix besides the biased media coverage having the potential to sway the vote, i do want to see the numbers. Why they don’t show the numbers is beyond me. I want to see what percentage each player got and how far away we were
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by Speedforthewin on Jul 9, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Two feelings: Hate Shana Victorina (bitch)... but relieved that Panda gets 4 full days off
The guy has been banged up and working like an elite panda ninja. My prime love is the Giants, and the best thing for the team is for him to get lots of rest, relaxation, and Ling Ling.
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…let’s fighting love
by Golden Gate Review on Jul 9, 2009 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions
hate is such a strong word...
but it’s oh-so-fitting for my feelings toward victorina.
i’d rather get mauled by a bear than have him “make” the all-star team. bet you $100 the phillies introduced a vote-bot for him. how anybody could like the douche is beyond me.
by Golden Gate Review on Jul 9, 2009 11:26 PM PDT reply actions
I guess all Philadelphians ARE as stupid as these guys
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It a show
The best show ever
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 10, 2009 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Ya
That
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 10, 2009 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions
SFGuy being lost is like the new Firefly reference
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Can a first baseman with ball charge down the line at an approaching baserunner to you know, run his ass over. I’m thinking kind of a low tackle maneuver. Is that legal?
are you suggesting ishikawa or carlos delgado or somebody needs to run a bulldozer through shano?
I dont know ruleswise for sure, but i think a tag’s a tag if he’s got the ball…
"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."
by i did my job on Jul 10, 2009 12:12 AM PDT up reply actions
blam
Put a shoulder down and drive it into the collarbone.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 10, 2009 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Aurilia should do it
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 10, 2009 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_C992KPzKs
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by Sandoval Stays Suckafree on Jul 10, 2009 6:40 AM PDT reply actions
Someone on here didn’t suggest that Sandoval is a better player than Zimmerman did they?
He’s not.
Neither is Lincecum (At this point) better than Santana, equal yes better NO!
Victorino is overrated and does not deserve to be an All star(Neither does Howard)but lets not go crazy.
Pablo Sandoval: .326/.379/.560, 2.7 WAR
Ryan Zimmerman: .292/.359/.480, 3.1 WAR
Roughly equals. Zimmerman’s defense gives him the slight edge but Sandoval clearly has the superior bat and could be the better player in due time. Obviously, both should be all-stars.
Tim Lincecum 2.33 ERA 149 K 33 BB 1.99 FIP 5.3 WAR
Johan Santana 3.29 ERA 107 K 36 BB 3.92 FIP 1.7 WAR
2008 Johan Santana (full season): 2.53 ERA 206 K 63 BB 3.51 FIP 4.8 WAR
Lincecum is worth more in the first half this year than Santana was worth over the entire length of last season. He’s clearly the superior pitcher, which is no mark of shame for Johan – he’s superior to everybody.
"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."
by i did my job on Jul 10, 2009 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions
OK, if you say so
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by say hey nation on Jul 10, 2009 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Lincecum is better than Santana right now, and going forward.
Ryan Zimmerman is fine player and a class act. He should be in the all-star game.
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
I do you pity you if you don’t think lincecum is better than santana despite the clear statistical evidence. From your profile comment numbers, it looks like you’re a mets fan, so I guess it’s not surprising you like Johan so much.
VOTE SANDOVAL
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I do you pity you too raisingcain I’m sure you were aiming for a terribly witty remark on my name.
Anyway statistics show that I was right about Zimmerman barely and I was wrong about Johan barely.
Meh hardly a big deal.
Of course going forward Lincecum will be better than Santana you could say that about any two good players one who is young one who is older. Will they have comparable careers probably though Santana had 3 seasons in a row of +7 WAR.
I’m actually surprised Pablo is a + defender at third, though Zimmerman is the best 3B defender in the NL.
Neither is Lincecum (At this point) better than Santana, equal yes better NO!
Nah
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 10, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
you say funny things
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 10, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
the south looks a little too big, massachusetts and LA a little too small.
apparently the adoptive parent of the 2nd best hitter on the team.
/shrug
by lincypoo i wuv u on Jul 10, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I blame Kinsler
I just looked at Kinsler’s line since July 1: .069/.156/.207 for a whopping .363 OPS. He dragged down the ticket.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.
bad press for the running mate, always blowing elections. I didn’t know Detroit was so determined too.
apparently the adoptive parent of the 2nd best hitter on the team.
/shrug
by lincypoo i wuv u on Jul 10, 2009 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
GIS nets some freaky results
Judgment Day is coming
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by Natto on Jul 10, 2009 10:40 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
yes…I tried the search….
Daily Gameball and Joker at GIANTSBOARD.COM
GB and JK also at Giantsboard Blog
Say Hey Say Willie, that Giant Kid is Great!
MLB now selling All Star Gear
Not traditional, but not bad
Daily Gameball and Joker at GIANTSBOARD.COM
GB and JK also at Giantsboard Blog
Say Hey Say Willie, that Giant Kid is Great!
I would so buy, and wear that to the next Phillies game I go to!
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Jul 10, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Jayson Werth apparently named to replace Beltran
What. the. fuck.
http://twitter.com/ToddZolecki/status/2571371509
emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 10, 2009 11:24 AM PDT reply actions
This is really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really dumb. The entire Phillies OF is going to be there.
Judgment Day is coming
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It almost makes me want to root for the AL.
emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 10, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Congratulations, Charlie Manuel. You’ve surpassed Clint Hurdle as the dumbest man on the planet.
Supporting San Francisco Dugout since 2005 and Manny Burriss since 2006, and bringing you all your California League needs since 2009.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 10, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
WHAT.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Wow
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
This actually pisses me off more than it would have if he’d picked Kemp.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
I could’ve
"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."
by i did my job on Jul 10, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
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