minor lines, 7/8/09
by steve S on Jul 8, 2009 11:03 PM PDT
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Highlights from the Giants' farm: (a) Matt Downs has 3 XBHs; (b,c) Darren Ford and Juan Perez each had three hits; and in short-season ball (d,e) Wilbur Bucardo and Cameron Lamb both had fairly dominant starts, combining for 11.0 IP scoreless IP. Also noteworthy is Madison Bumgarner having a somewhat abbreviated start with 4.0 IP.
AAA: Fresno defeated Sacramento 8-4 Fresno: LF John Bowker: 1 for 1, 2B Fresno: LHP Steve Hammond: 6.1 IP, 6 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 4 BB, 2 K--2 HR Downs had 3 XBHs--his 1st triple, and his 20th and 21st doubles. Guzman also reached base three times. Bowker left the game for a pinch runner after doubling in the 1st inning. The Athletics' Everidge is having a breakout year, including an OPS over .900 in 27 PCL games. Hammond allowed 4 ER in this start after allowed 3 ER or less in his past three starts. His ERA is now 5.65 after sixteen starts. AA: Connecticut defeated New Britain 3-1 (7 innings) in game 1 Connecticut: 2B Brock Bond: 0 for 4 Connecticut: LHP Madison Bumgarner: 4.0 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 2 K--1 HR After reaching base with either a hit or walk in his last 50+ games, Bond finally had that streak snapped. Boyer had two of the Defenders' five hits, but his AVG remains below .250. Bumgarner had a relatively abbreviated start. He was not quite as effective today as normal with a 1.50 WHIP. He'll pitch again Sunday in the Futures Game. Paterson pitched two scoreless innings for his 10th save. He was one of four Defenders named to participate in the Eastern League all-star game next week. AA: Connecticut lost to New Britain 7-3 (7 innings) in game 2 Connecticut: DH Tyler LaTorre: 2 for 3, 2B Connecticut: RHP Mike Musgrave: 1.0 IP, 3 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 2 BB, 0 K--1 HB With his 5th double and a single, LaTorre was the only Defender to reach base twice. Hughes, whom BA ranked as the Twins' #17 prospect at the start of the year, had four hits, including three doubles. I believe this was Musgrave's first start since he had Tommy John surgery about three years ago. It did not go well with 3 ER as the Rock Cats batted around in the 1st inning. Snyder, a former starter who made one spot start earlier this year, provided long relief, allowing just 1 ER in 4.0 IP. A+: San Jose defeated High Desert 6-2 San Jose: CF Darren Ford: 3 for 4, SB, CS San Jose: RHP Oliver Odle: 5.1 IP, 10 H, 2 H, 0 ER, 2 BB, 6 K Ford had three of the Giants' seven hits, but his AVG remains well below .250. His SB/CS line remains unimpressive as well at 12/7. Returning to the lineup after missing a couple games, Neal had his 14th HR. Odle scattered 10 H over 5.1 IP allowing just a couple runs, both unearned. His ERA remains above 5.00. Runzler pitched a perfect 8th inning. A-: Augusta defeated Asheville 9-3 Augusta: SS Ehire Adrianza: 2 for 4, SO, E Augusta: LHP Eric Surkamp: 5.0 IP, 5 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 8 K--1 HB The slumping Perez reversed that trend with a three-hit night, getting his AVG back up to .257. Adrianza was one of three other GreenJackets with two hits, but he also committed his 19th error. Surkamp had his seventh straight start allowing 2 ER or less. He has also racked up the strikeout total in his nine starts over the last two months, with 62 K in 50.2 IP. For the season, his K/BB ratio is nearly 5.00. It seems that Fitzgerald pitches well enough most of the time but is prone to a a big blowup in between. Tonight he failed to retire any of the five batters he faced in the 7th inning. ssA: Salem-Keizer defeated Tri-City 4-0 Salem-Keizer: DJ C.J. Ziegler: 1 for 2, HR, 2 BB Salem-Keizer: RHP Wilbur Bucardo: 7.0 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 2 K--2 HB Ziegler and Martinez (40th rounder) each had their 2nd HRs. The older Bucardo had perhaps the best start of his pro career, or at least his best NWL start. His ERA after four starts is just 0.79. Tonight his GO/FO line was 14/5. Quinowski finished the shutout. His ERA is also below 1.00. Quinowski has almost as many strikeouts (11 K in 10.2 IP) as Bucardo has in twice the innings (12 K in 22.2 IP). R: Giants defeated Athletics 5-2 Scottsdale: RF Sundrendy Windster: 1 for 4, HR, SO Scottsdale: RHP Cameron Lamb: 4.0 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 8 K Lopez, a late round draftee two years who hit just .195 a year ago in the AZL, had three hits, raising his AVG this year to .320 through 25 AB. Windster, who had 10 HRs last summer in the DSL, had his 1st HR (and 1st XBH) in the U.S. Lamb had his second straight start with 8 K. Through four starts, he has been quite effective with peripherals stats of 15 H, 6 BB, and 25 K in 19.0 IP. DSL: Giants defeated Yankees1 5-2 Dominican: 2B Carlos Willoughby: 2 for 4, 2B, 2 SO, SB, E Willoughby had another solid game, including the Gigantes' only XBH today. Flores (17.7 y.o.) had a career-high 6 K in his sixth pro start. His K/IP ratio is now 0.75.
Fresno: 1B Jesus Guzman: 2 for 3, BB
Fresno: 2B Matt Downs: 3 for 4, 3B, 2 2B
Sacramento: DH Tommy Everidge: 2 for 4, HR, 2B
Connecticut: 3B Brad Boyer: 2 for 3
Connecticut: LHP Joe Paterson: 2.0 IP, 1 BB, 2 K
New Britain: 3B Luke Hughes: 4 for 4, 3 2B
Connecticut: LHP Ben Snyder: 4.0 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 3 K
San Jose: LF Thomas Neal: 1 for 3, HR, HBP, 2 SO
San Jose: LHP Dan Runzler: 1.0 IP
Augusta: 2B Juan Perez: 3 for 4, SO
Augusta: RHP Justin Fitzgerald: 0.0 IP, 2 H, 5 R, 2 ER, 1 BB
Salem-Keizer: 2B Juan Martinez: 2 for 3, HR, 3B
Salem-Keizer: LHP David Quinowski: 2.0 IP, 1 BB, 3 K
Scottsdale: 2B Jose Lopez: 3 for 4
Dominican: RHP Kendry Flores: 5.0 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 6 K--1 WP
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They probably held Bumgarner back today pitch count wise because he’s pitching on Sunday in the futures game.
by jctGamer on Jul 8, 2009 11:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
OK
but today is only WEDNESDAY. Doesn’t he throw between starts? When are the training wheels coming off these pitchers?
by wilriv21 on Jul 9, 2009 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s 19 years old, Wil, how many innings do you want to see piled onto his arm? He’s already pitched 81 innings and we’re just at about at the half way point. Last year he pitched over 150 at 18. For comparison, Matt Cain threw only 74 innings in his age 18 season and 158 in his age 19 season (and was very clearly tiring at the end of that, as he got hit pretty hard in at the end of that AA season.
Justin Verlander, to take just one example out of the dozens of college pitchers taken in the draft, only threw 100-110 innings in each of his age 19, 20, and 21 seasons while in college, and only threw 118 in his age 22 season in the minors.
Frankly, I’m much more concerned about getting his secondary offerings up to snuff than I am about more innings, because I don’t want to see him in the majors until he’s learned to throw a breaking ball that a major league hitter needs to be concerned with, and he doesn’t seem to be too close to that right now.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
by Roger on Jul 9, 2009 7:20 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Very good point.
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by Lyle on Jul 9, 2009 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
excellent points Roger
You are absolutely dead on about Bumgarner needing to develop his 2nd and 3rd pitches, and at this time, they still have a long ways to go. One thing that doesn’t show up in his stats are the number of “loud” outs he’s given up and there have been plenty. And he needs to mature, body wise, too. Right now his fastball has been clocked by the scouts in the low 90’s, very hittable for major league batters. The scouts I’ve talked with have all been impressed and feel he’ll be hitting mid 90’s in time. He does have a good sense about pitching though and moves the ball around the plate pretty good. That , more then anything else, has kept his numbers looking good.
I’d love to be able to see him in person in 2 or 3 years, he should be something.
by thehondohurricane on Jul 9, 2009 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great points Roger.
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Fuggen Rox! You might want to try beating The Bums more than once in 10 games. Try it. You might find you like it.
by daveinexile on Jul 9, 2009 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Six man rotation in AA level, low pitch counts does not prepare a starting pitcher for the rigors of MLB. Unless an organization only is looking for its starting pitchers to throw 100 pitches a game.
How many innings is a pitcher going to throw in an ASG? How many pitches? Few. It is as if he is taking his bullpen session between starts. What is the big deal?
by wilriv21 on Jul 9, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don’t need to prepare a 19 year old for the rigors of major league season — you need to prepare him to get major league hitters out. The rigors you can prepare him for when he gets to the majors — slowly. The other technique is a good way to end up with a 22 year old broken pitcher.
And it’s not just like a bullpen session. It’s a nationally televised All Star game. It’s something kids get hyped up for and tend to overthrow wildly. Go back and take a look at Cain’s Future’s Game performance — he was so overhyped he threw every pitch about two feet over everything. It’s an exceptional way to hurt a young arm.
Look at it this way — I’m not saying the Giants should Matt Cain down after 4 innings on Saturday — but if he were to throw a complete game 120 pitch effort I wouldn’t want him coming in for an inning in Tuesday’s game.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
by Roger on Jul 9, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The MLB ASG takes a distant second to an organizations need. Especially in a pennant chase so the Cain/Bummy does not match up. Plus I would be surprised if any Giants prospect pitcher throws more than 100 pitches in a week.
A pitcher could have very easily thrown five innings on a Wednesday and come back and throw another inning or two on a Sunday. This is professional baseball.
by wilriv21 on Jul 9, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure what the pennant race has to do with it. There is no reason to think that Bumgarner should be brought up this year.
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by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bumgarner is not coming up this year
by superk1ng on Jul 9, 2009 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
where does it advocate the promotion of Bummy?
by wilriv21 on Jul 9, 2009 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Especially in a pennant chase
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:-(
by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good to see Neal back in the lineup and HITTIN DINGERZ
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by jponry on Jul 8, 2009 11:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
NEAL BEFORE ZOD has returned.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 8, 2009 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ZOD!!
ZOD!!!
ZOD!!!!
( Yes, this is fast beome my most favoratie McCoven nickname. It is right up there s Velez’s full titles and Anvil.)
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Fuggen Rox! You might want to try beating The Bums more than once in 10 games. Try it. You might find you like it.
by daveinexile on Jul 9, 2009 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Breaking News?
I just saw on the NBC news tracker that the Giants have called up Bowker, I guess Frandsen is back in Fresno.
BOWKERMANIA BROTHER!
Mo'ped Money, Mo'ped Problems
by Scooter Ellis on Jul 8, 2009 11:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They’re sending down TBS because they don’t need a 5th starter again until after the AS Break.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jul 8, 2009 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like this move
Its smart, but not because i think Sadowski needs more time at AAA
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 8, 2009 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He gave up an ER!
DFA!!!!!
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Thanks to roger
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by bondslegend on Jul 9, 2009 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
THE tiny PYTHONS WILL SQUEEZE HOPE BACK INTO THE ORANGE & BLACK FAITHFUL!!
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Fuggen Rox! You might want to try beating The Bums more than once in 10 games. Try it. You might find you like it.
by daveinexile on Jul 9, 2009 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, but will he play?
Are they bringing up to play everyday, or is he going to pinch-hit once a week? And if he does play, where? 1B? Because here’s how the Giants handle minor league talent: give ‘em 15 AB’s and then decide, nope, he can’t play
by Giantsfan4life on Jul 9, 2009 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This I fear is the probable result. He might play 2 games a week. Nate will be back to pinch hitter #1 off the bench. Winn will continue to blaze his way along his 115/127/148 path as a LHB for ’09 with at least another 60-90 P.A.’s because " We need to get his bat going from that side of the plate ".
In other words stop harshing my high dude.
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Fuggen Rox! You might want to try beating The Bums more than once in 10 games. Try it. You might find you like it.
by daveinexile on Jul 9, 2009 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if Surkamp could be in line for a mid-year promotion pretty soon
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 8, 2009 11:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Or a bit later, at least. I’m pretty sure they’ll bring him up for the Cal League playoffs, as Augusta isn’t going to the SAL playoffs.
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by haverecords on Jul 8, 2009 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I knew Surkamp was a college teammate of Andrew Brackman’s, but I just heard the other day that they were also HS teammates. Somebody on Blog Talk Radio the other day was describing the experience of being a high school hitter going against both of them in a doubleheader the other day. Pretty funny.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
by Roger on Jul 9, 2009 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it is judgement day, BROTHER
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by haverecords on Jul 8, 2009 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BOWKER IS THE ETERNAL TRUTH
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jul 8, 2009 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ehire is keeping this multiple hit binge going. I like.
Prospective parent of new pick, Zack Wheeler. Projectable Righty stolen from the braves. Of course, I stalk my son's myspace: http://www.myspace.com/zackwheelerbaseball
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by haverecords on Jul 8, 2009 11:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
JOHN BOWKERMAINA!!!
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Jul 9, 2009 12:03 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
BOWKERMANIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
by shikantaza on Jul 9, 2009 12:16 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Steve Decker
Enjoy his batting order management – mixing and matching his lineups and taking advantage of the hot hand in the run producing spots in the batting order
by wilriv21 on Jul 9, 2009 12:21 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Wil, it was good to see Gillaspie move to the top half of the order. Presumably his one outstanding skill is OBP.
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by Lyle on Jul 9, 2009 7:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oops
Hmm, when you mentioned the lineup flexibility I immediately thought of San Jose. What, in particular, were you thinking of in Connecticut, Wil?
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by Lyle on Jul 10, 2009 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looking at the daily box scores Decker has an ever changing lineup. He seems to ride the hot hand often slotting the hottest hitters in the 3-4-5 holes
by wilriv21 on Jul 10, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like the Bucardos are doing well, 6-0 combined record and tiny ERAs. Wiber’s Ks aren’t looking so hot, though.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 9, 2009 12:41 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
But his GBs look excellent. Jorge was letting that Tri-City team elevate him a bit more than normal the other night.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
by Roger on Jul 9, 2009 7:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dear People Responsible for Freeing Ben Snyder,
Free Ben Snyder!
Sincerely,
Multiphasic
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by multiphasic on Jul 9, 2009 2:11 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Whew! I saw that he was pulled after that double last night. I was hoping it was this and not a broken toe.
"Don't trust anyone under the age of 30" - Brian Sabean
by Smotheredinhugs on Jul 9, 2009 5:56 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Chris Dominguez: too good for the AZ League. Move ’im up, Sabes! Sorry, Kyle Mach.
Good to see Surkamp kicking it up a notch.
Is it true that Bowker is coming up?
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by Lyle on Jul 9, 2009 6:13 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
by Fresburg on Jul 9, 2009 7:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
THANK YOU!!!
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by Lyle on Jul 9, 2009 7:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Burriss to have surgery, will miss 2 months
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/07/08/SPAM18L805.DTL
Not to sound cruel, but this allows the organization to move him to the 60 day DL and can activate Joe Martinez without exposing Sadowski to waiver. This may be Burriss biggest contribution to the club this season……
by jctGamer on Jul 9, 2009 7:52 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
C’mon, kicking a man when he’s down is not cool. He won a couple of games with his defense. Randy Johnsons 300th comes to mind.
"Don't trust anyone under the age of 30" - Brian Sabean
by Smotheredinhugs on Jul 9, 2009 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah i regretted as soon as I wrote that. Hope he comes back strong next season.
by jctGamer on Jul 9, 2009 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So at this point do we consider ‘09 mostly a “wasted” season on Burriss’s developement or do we wait to see how he does after he comes back?
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Fuggen Rox! You might want to try beating The Bums more than once in 10 games. Try it. You might find you like it.
by daveinexile on Jul 9, 2009 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
not wasted, he learned some of what he can and can not do. I remember Krukow saying one day that Burriss had 4 at bats, I think 3 for base hits, and “got both cheeks into all his swings”.
it took me a minute to figure out the cheeks.
That was around May, and since then he went back to slapping at the ball while his feet start running to first, and his hitting sure declined. Blame Burriss? Lansford? Bochy? results speak for themselves.
cheering for Adam Witter, who will hit bigleague dingers some day.
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by foothillsfan on Jul 9, 2009 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What he can not do: Hit.
Check, got it done and learned.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
by Roger on Jul 9, 2009 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At age 24 though did we really expect him to hit well enough to stick a whole season on the MLB level? I am pretty sure the consensus opinion was, "No". So then do we think he learned ( or refined his talent) in a way that his is much better going into his age 25 season then at the end of his age 23 season? I tend to think not so much. Though maybe it is just my emotions speaking right now
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Fuggen Rox! You might want to try beating The Bums more than once in 10 games. Try it. You might find you like it.
by daveinexile on Jul 9, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really think the problem’s a more fundamental tools issue, personally. I wouldn’t have expected him to hit well at any level — because really he never has. He had a decent BA in low A, but it was driven by infield hits and dribblers, and there was almost no secondary value in OBP or SLG, and this from a 22 year old in low A.
I just don’t think he has the bat speed to hit good professional pitching and I don’t know that he’s going to be able to “develop” himself out of that basic skillset lack.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
by Roger on Jul 9, 2009 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
somewhat wasted. it really makes the decision to keep him rather than Frandsen coming out of spring training look dumber than it did then. I fear that he lost good development time that would have been better spent in AAA than on the interstate in the majors. Plus, he could have likely played SS in the minors and we could have found out if he could handle that position.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 9, 2009 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it's wasted.
If he can learn how to bunt and lay-off the slider down and in, I think he can be a good player. That’s assuming his speed isn’t squelched by this surgery, because otherwise it’s over for him.
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by Smotheredinhugs on Jul 9, 2009 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is exactly what we knew last October though.
The question is do we think he made any progress along the path to doing that ( bunting, laying off the junk, ball in play on the ground to correct side of the infield)? I think he has (had given the injury?) made some progress to steadying up his glove work but that should come with constant repetitions at any level. So what do we know now we didn’t know at the end of his age 23 years except he is now got the same questions going into age 25?
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Fuggen Rox! You might want to try beating The Bums more than once in 10 games. Try it. You might find you like it.
by daveinexile on Jul 9, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
for what it’s worth, I was referring to this :
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=2917&position=2B/SS#value
Emmanuelle Burriss is worth negative 3.9 million dollars. A replacement level AAAA 2B would have done better, so his contribution to the ballclub was actually negative this season. (-0.9 WAR)
by jctGamer on Jul 9, 2009 8:38 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So Frandsen might be worth more then - $3.9MM?
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Fuggen Rox! You might want to try beating The Bums more than once in 10 games. Try it. You might find you like it.
by daveinexile on Jul 9, 2009 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another perfect inning for Runzler :) Another error for Ehire – isn’t he supposed to have superior fielding skills? With Bowker moving up what happens to Freddy – is he relegated to Siberia? Anyone have any idea if MadBum is working on his secondary pitches?
by APGiantsFan on Jul 9, 2009 10:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hard to get a good read on defensive abilities in the minors from error totals. The fields are generally bad, the official scorers not much better. Typically it’s best to trust the scouting communities eyes on the issue.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
by Roger on Jul 9, 2009 10:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s also hard to get a good read on defensive abilities in the majors from error totals.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes. That, too.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
by Roger on Jul 9, 2009 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Windster goes deep
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