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minor lines, 7/5/09

Highlights from the Giants' farm: (a) Mike McBryde had four hits, including three doubles; (b) Brian Bocock also had four hits, including a double; and (c) Tyler LaTorre also reached base four times.  On the pitching side, honorable mention goes to Paul Oseguera and Aaron King, who both had solid starts.  On the prospect front, Tim Alderson had a quality start with 3 ER in 6.0 IP.

Star-divide

AAA: Fresno lost to Las Vegas 5-4

Fresno: 2B Emmanuel Burriss: 0 for 0, BB, E
Fresno: SS Kevin Frandsen: 2 for 4
Fresno: RF-2B Matt Downs: 2 for 4, 2B, E
Las Vegas: 2B Joe Inglett: 2 for 3, BB, SB

Fresno: RHP Joe Martinez: 5.0+ IP, 5 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 2 BB, 1 K--1 HR
Fresno: LHP Alex Hinshaw: 2.0 IP, 1 H, 1 BB, 2 K

The Grizzlies' middle infielders did a good job of reaching base, combining for four of the team's nine hits and drawing their only walk.  On the down side, Frandsen and Downs committed their 14th and 11th errors respectively.  Burriss led off the bottom of the 1st inning with a walk and after going from first to third on Frandsen's single was immediately replaced by a pinch runner.  Inglett, one of the middle infielders for the Blue Jays' affiliate, had another strong game.  He has reached base in eight of his ten plate appearances this series.

Martinez made his fourth rehab appearance.  He allowed just 2 ER through five innings but then failed to retire any of the four batters he faced in the 6th inning.  Hinshaw stranded both runners he inherited from Martinez.  Hinshaw actually threw a greater percentage of his pitches for strikes (nearly two thirds, 23 for 35) than Martinez did, as Martinez threw just 41 of 72 pitches for strikes.

AA: Connecticut defeated Reading 12-5
(after the game was tied 3-3 heading into the 7th inning)

Connecticut: CF Mike McBryde: 4 for 5, 3 2B, SB
Connecticut: C Tyler LaTorre: 2 for 3, 2 BB, SB

Connecticut: RHP Tim Alderson: 6.0 IP, 3 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 3 K--2 HR
Connecticut: LHP Ben Snyder: 2.0 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 1 K

McBryde had four of the Defenders' fourteen hits, raising his AVG to just shy of .300.  It seems odd to say this late in the season, but today McBryde doubled the number of doubles he has had in 36 Eastern League games.  LaTorre also reached base four times, further raising his OBP to .395 through 109 AB.  McBryde and LaTorre each had one of the Defenders' six steals today.

After pitching less than six full innings in three of his last four starts, Alderson had the quality start, despite allowing two big flies.  He had allowed just 2 HRs in his previous nine starts in the upper minors.  His ERA rose to 2.59.  With 2 ER, Snyder saw his ERA rise back above 2.00.  After a 0/5 GO/FO line today, his GO/AO ratio for the season is 0.68.

A+: San Jose defeated Modesto 11-1
(breaking the game open with seven runs in the 6th inning)

San Jose: SS Brian Bocock: 4 for 4, 2B, SO, E
San Jose: LF Thomas Neal: 1 for 4, 2B
San Jose: 2B Skyler Strosmoe: 1 for 3, 3B, BB
Modesto: CF Charlie Blackmon: 1 for 3, HR, HBP, SB

San Jose; LHP Paul Oseguera: 6.0 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 8 K--1 HR, 1 HB
San Jose: RHP Steven Edlefsen: 1.0 IP, 2 K

Bocock had four of the Giants' nine hits.  Bocock, Neal, and Strosmoe each had one of the Giants' three XBHs, and each of them 3 RBIs.  The Rockies' Blackmon had another good game against the Giants, this time with his 3rd HR and 19th SB.

Oseguera's fifth start with San Jose was his best yet, a definite turn around from his last start in which he fell short of pitching five full innings.  With 8 K, he struck out a third of the 24 batters he faced.  Edlefsen had 2 K in a perfect 8th inning.  In nineteen Cal League appearances, he has 15 H, 10 BB, and 38 K in 27.0 IP with a 1.00 ERA.  Perhaps he is ready for another shot at the upper minors.

A-: Augusta defeated Bowling Green 4-3 (7 innings) in game 1

Augusta: 3B Charlie Culberson: 2 for 2, SF, E
Bowling Green: SS Tim Beckham: 0 for 3, SO, PO, E

Augusta: RHP Mike Loree: 6.0+ IP, 3 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 2 BB, 1 K--1 HR, 1 PO
Augusta: RHP Edwin Quirarte: 1.0 IP, 1 H

With hits in both at bats, Culberson raised his AVG to .250.  He also committed his 27th error in 76 games.  That is one less error than the Ray's Beckham, the top overall pick a year, has.

Loree allowed just one run through six innings but failed to retired either batter he faced in the 7th inning.  With just 1 K in each of his last two starts, his K/IP has fallen below 0.50.  Plus, he tends to be a flyball pitcher, with a 4/12 GO/FO line today and a 0.88 GO/AO ratio for the season.  The win evened his W-L record at 5-5 with a 4.03 ERA.  Quirarte allowed two of three inherited runners to score but was credited with his 4th save.

A-: Augusta defeated Bowling Green 3-1 (7 innings) in game 2

Augusta: CF Dom Duggan: 3 for 4, 2B, CS
Augusta: 1B Mike Loberg: 1 for 2, 2 BB
Augusta: SS Ehire Adrianza: 2 for 3, 2B
Bowling Green: SS Tim Beckham: 2 for 3

Augusta: LHP Aaron King: 5.1 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 4 K--1 HB, 1 WP
Augusta: RHP Kyle Woodruff: 1.2 IP, 1 H, 1 K

Batting leadoff, Duggan had three hits, including his 7th double, but his AVG remains just shy of .250.  Loberg also reached base three times, but his OBP remains below .300.  Adrianza had what has been for him a somewhat rare multi-hit line.  He has had eleven hits in his ten games since the all-star break, though, to improve his season line to .267/.339/.351 through 225 AB.  In the nightcap, Beckham had two of the Hot Rods' three hits.

King followed up his longest start of the year with another solid performance, this time allowing less than 2 ER for the first time since May.  For the season, he now has a 4.37 ERA through thirteen starts.  Woodruff faced the minimum five batters to finish the game and earn his first pro save (in his 26th pro appearance).

ssA: Salem-Keizer defeated Tri-City 6-5 (10 innings)

Salem-Keizer: CF Francisco Peguero: 3 for 5, 3B
Salem-Keizer: DH C.J. Ziegler: 2 for 3, 2B, 2 BB
Salem-Keizer: 3B Andrew Biery: 3 for 5

Salem-Keizer: RHP Orlando Yntema: 6.0 IP, 6 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 2 K--1 HR

Occupying the heart of the Volcanoes batting lineup, batting third through fifth, Peguero, Ziegler, and Biery combined for eight of the Volcanoes' thirteen hits, both of their XBHs, and two of their four walks.  They all have an AVG of at least .350 now through the first half month of NWL action.

Yntema had another effective start fo the Volcanoes.  The 23-year-old has a 2.78 ERA through four starts and has pitched into the 6th inning in each of his last three starts.

R: Giants lost to Mariners 9-5

Scottsdale: CF Evan Crawford: 3 for 5, 2B, SB
Scottsdale: 1B Chris Dominguez: 1 for 4, HR, SO
Scottsdale: 1B Jonathan White: 2 for 4, 3B, 2B

Scottsdale: RHP Bryan Salsbury: 3.0 IP, 7 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 2 K
Scottsdale: RHP Chris Heston: 0.2 IP, 2 H, 5 R, 5 ER, 3 BB, 2 K

Crawford (9th rounder) and White (40th rounder) both had multi-hit lines for the rookie Giants.  Dominguez (3rd rounder) had his first pro HR.

Salsbury (14th rounder) made his first pro start after two relief appearances.  Heston (12th rounder) gave up the large crooked number in his second pro appearance.

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Alderson

He seems to be a flyball pitcher, but I was surprised to see he only gave up 4 homers last year. He’s already served up 8 this year (4 in SJ and 4 in Conn).

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 5, 2009 10:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He’s actually a bit of a groundball pitcher, he’s a bit above average in that regard.

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.

by marcello on Jul 6, 2009 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

NEXT BRANDON WEBB

YOU HEARD IT HEAR FIRST, FOLKS!!

by Natto on Jul 6, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You mean Jorge, right?

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Jul 6, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jorge Webb?

Never heard of the guy.

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.

by EliminateMe on Jul 6, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Spelling fail.

by Natto on Jul 6, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm slightly worrried about Alderson's K-rate

Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.

by Aadik on Jul 5, 2009 11:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Same here

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Jul 6, 2009 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not so worried, he’s 20 in an advanced league. I think his control will catch up and he is still striking out over a batter an inning.

My Will Clark will kick your honor students ass!

by jbowl on Jul 6, 2009 1:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, he isn’t close to striking out 1 per inning. 40 K’s in 55 IP in AA, 20 K’s in 26 IP in A+.

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by marcello on Jul 6, 2009 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup, sorry you’re right! Don’t know how i misread that. I still don’t think I’ll worry until he really starts getting lit up though.

My Will Clark will kick your honor students ass!

by jbowl on Jul 6, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah he’s being pushed pretty well. The only real reason to worry is if one wants him ready NOW

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 6, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which is probably the best news, at least to me. There is less chance that they would bring up either Bumgarner or Alderson this season.

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by marcello on Jul 6, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Initially wanted Bumgarner to be added to the roster by August 31 so he would be on the playoff roster. The reason I wanted to see this is because I believe the bullpen could use another LHP and another power arm. Now that Sanchez is out of the rotation he can be the another bullpen LHP and power arm.

by wilriv21 on Jul 6, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, you could still have Bumgarner even if he’s not on the roster by August 31, the Giants just have to throw someone on the DL. It’s a weird exemption, and Giants fans have been on the receiving end of its bounty in the form of Francisco Rodriguez.

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by marcello on Jul 6, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 6, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not really worried because I didn’t expect him to do much better. I’ll be pretty surprised if he manages a 6.00 K/9 in the majors. It’s all about control with him.

Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.

:-(

by Cookyman on Jul 6, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if the change in his stats is just due to a change in approach or using different pitches.

by Change Up on Jul 6, 2009 1:59 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It’s always been a concern because he’s pitching off a fringy fastball. As he rises up to higher levels it’s going to be harder and harder to make that work. He’s really going to have to be a cagey youngster to succeed.

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Jul 6, 2009 5:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

When you say fringy, are you implying a sub-90 fastball? That’s not what I’ve read.

Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005. And winner of the 2012 NL Fireman of the Year Award!

by Lyle on Jul 6, 2009 6:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That seems to be what I keep reading. 88-90.

Of course, that said, it’s important to note that his K rate at AA isn’t substantially worse than Bumgarner’s (which I’m also a little concerned with), and it’s more than made up for by Timmy’s superior BB rate. It’s really hits and HRs that make the difference in their season numbers, not peripherals.

For AA:

Alderson 55.2IP 10BB 40K
Bumgarner 53 IP 15BB, 43K

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Jul 6, 2009 6:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully I’ll get to see him at the end of the month, though, so I’ll be able to comment on the issue in slightly less ignorance, which is always a plus!

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Jul 6, 2009 6:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ll bow to your geographical advantage. :)

Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005. And winner of the 2012 NL Fireman of the Year Award!

by Lyle on Jul 6, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dominguez goes deep!! Our power hitter of the future is on his way.

Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!

by rxmeister on Jul 6, 2009 5:40 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Exactly, Mark

This is the headline. Our future cleanup hitter begins his assault on minor league pitchiing.

Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005. And winner of the 2012 NL Fireman of the Year Award!

by Lyle on Jul 6, 2009 6:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dominguez scouting report (offensively) is pretty similar to Kieschnick’s last year, right? Lots o’ power with contact issues?

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Jul 6, 2009 6:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s off to a good start!

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 6, 2009 6:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone know what happened with Burriss last night? Walked ot lead off the game and was immediately PR for. Sick perhaps?

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Jul 6, 2009 6:28 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

unless he’s on his way to the big team.

Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!

by rxmeister on Jul 6, 2009 6:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

a reading of the game story said that Burris’ was injured going from first to third on Kevin Frandsen’s single in the first inning. Man, that Frandsen is smart!!

Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!

by rxmeister on Jul 6, 2009 7:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

awesome

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 6, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I loved it!!!!

Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005. And winner of the 2012 NL Fireman of the Year Award!

by Lyle on Jul 6, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Green It!!

As far as I’m concerned.

Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Fuggen Rox! You might want to try beating The Bums more than once in 10 games. Try it. You might find you like it.

by daveinexile on Jul 6, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ehire Adrianza > Tim Beckham

It’s science.

by Evan on Jul 6, 2009 8:03 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

IAWTC

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 6, 2009 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have a feeling McBryde is going to put himself back on the prospect list with a strong second half. He’s Slugging .465 in June and July. Only 88 AB’s. The rest of July and August are big months for him.

"Don't trust anyone under the age of 30" - Brian Sabean

by Smotheredinhugs on Jul 6, 2009 9:03 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Another scoreless inning for Runzler – in 36 innings he has given up two runs between Augusta and San Jose – with 56 K’s – relief prospect or trade bait? Another error for Bocock, who was supposed to be major league ready in the field. Nice to see Dominguez show some power, let us hope they move him to A ball soon.

by APGiantsFan on Jul 6, 2009 9:06 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Prospect. Next question….

Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005. And winner of the 2012 NL Fireman of the Year Award!

by Lyle on Jul 6, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

/raises hand

Q: Why is Chris Dominguez playing 1b and not 3b?

by wilriv21 on Jul 6, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

looks like topic du jour

by wilriv21 on Jul 6, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t worry about Alderson and Bumgarner’s strikeouts considering they both throw strikes, so they are natually around the plate most of the time. Bumgarner has the better stuff, so he will strike out more. Alderson definately needs to add a change if he doesn’t have one at the moment, but he isn’t likely going to be a big strikeout pitcher in the bigs. Which is ok.

Looks like the Giants see Dominguez more as a 1B, which is probably correct. He would show a big target over there that’s for sure.

Can Kieschnick play CF at all? The Giants just don’t have much at that spot in the minors and with Neal and possibly Schierholtz holding down the corner OF spots in the near future, would be nice to have a big bat added to those 3 too.

by barry100 on Jul 6, 2009 9:35 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think Kiesch has the type of range to play CF.

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 6, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m a little troubled by the immediate assignment of Dominguez to 1B, if indeed this turns out to be the organization’s plan. I would have given Nate another year at 3B before moving him, and I certainly value Dominguez a bit less as a 1B than as a 3B. Unless, of course, Kyle Mach turns out to be Matt Williams…

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by Lyle on Jul 6, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oops

Sorry, I see Roger voiced this concern already… Knee-jerk reaction on my part.

Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005. And winner of the 2012 NL Fireman of the Year Award!

by Lyle on Jul 6, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t get the motivation for putting Dominguez at 1B right now. His toolbox is supposed to be 1) huge power; 2) huge arm. Why stick him in the one spot on the field where one of his two most valuable assets isn’t used at all? Unless he’s hurt or they just want to get him some no pressure ABs with the wood bat without worrying about D I’m not getting it.

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Jul 6, 2009 9:41 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

to get him playing time maybe?

They seem to be having a hard time getting playing time for everybody on the roster.

by superk1ng on Jul 6, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but another solution to that problem would be to move Kyle Mach to another position (or for the time being bench). He’s the 86th overall pick; Mach’s the 807th. The question of who accommodates who in this case doesn’t seem very difficult to answer.

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Jul 6, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s weird. The Giants have long been eager to move players to easier positions for no apparent reason, but surely they wouldn’t do that with Dominguez and his famous arm, would they?

by Evan on Jul 6, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

right. they could just be easing him into the swing of things, which is why they sent him to AZ in the first place. He DH’d the first couple of games, too.

Bonds stands alone.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 6, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

BOWKERMANIA UPDATE

Overall: .349/.450/.611
Last 7 days: .381/.500/.714
Last 14 days: .395/.491/.721
Last 28 days: .326/.414/.663

vs. LHP: .317/.394/.427
vs. RHP: .363/.473/.689

BB Rate: 16%
K Rate: 18.4%

He’s no Todd Linden, folks. CALL HIM UP GINATS BRASZZ!

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 6, 2009 12:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Sabean seems to be getting ready for it.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 6, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Genuis

He is not an idiot

by wilriv21 on Jul 6, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I fear he’s going to be at 1B rather than in the OF, but BOWKERMANIA is better than NO BOWKERMANIA.

Maybe OF and 1B with rotating days off for Ishikawa and Winn/Schierholtz?

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 6, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The last few days of him playing 1B certainly would indicate that, but I don’t get it. Ishikawa’s been hitting well recently and with his glove is actually ok. Selective end points (scroll to bottom).

Even with his horrific start, he’s been about a league average player so far. And if you want to think he’s improving at the plate, which I do, then you’d probably expect above average production for the rest of the year. Given the differences in fielding, I don’t know that he’d really be an improvement.

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.

by marcello on Jul 6, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would like to see Ishikawa stay at 1B, but Bowker’s bat has to get into the lineup. I would rather than be in OF at the expense of Winn/Schierholtz, but I don’t make the lineups.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 6, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agred

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by marcello on Jul 6, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even with his horrific start, he’s been about a league average player so far

The only way you can think that is if you really believe that his current UZR (on pace for 25 runs) is accurate, which would make him the best defensive 1B in the history of ever. If we assume he’s a +10 at 1B – close to his career +9.4 – which is a much more reasonable number, and would still make him an elite defensive 1B (only Pujols has put up that high a UZR over the past three years, nobody else has been over 5), then he’s been well below average this year, and this is all while being platooned.

Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.

:-(

by Cookyman on Jul 6, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

True

I didn’t think about the platoon issues.

I think the regression with his glove will be countered by the regression of his bat. So, more likely, average going forward.

As for what he’s done, UZR has him saving 7 runs so far this year. No need for regression in judging the past, so he has been about average.

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by marcello on Jul 6, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What regression with the bat? If anything, his BABIP is high for a player of his profile. And there is a need for regression when judging the past, when you’re using defensive stats. When a player posts something that crazy in a small sample size, it’s most likely because the system missed something, not because he was that good.

Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.

:-(

by Cookyman on Jul 6, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he’s a better hitter than he has been so far this year. As for UZR, I don’t think so. It measures the plays that were made, he probably just had a really good couple of months. Like a batter who hits .400 for a while, he’s not going to keep it up, but it still happened.

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by marcello on Jul 6, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

With a hitter who hit .400, we know he actually got hits in 40% of his at bats. That’s not the case here.

UZR divides the field into zones, but inside every zone there is still a lot of room for error. In such a small sample size, a lot of stuff things could have, and probably did, go wrong. For example, Ishikawa could have easily gotten 7 balls that were technically in a tough zone, but right on the edge of it, very close to an easier zone. By making an out on every one of them, Ishikawa could have made 7 outs that UZR recognized as being very hard, when in fact they were relatively routine. In this sample size, these plays could have been the difference between a pretty good UZR and an incredible one.

In these sample sizes, you always regress defensive stats.

Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.

:-(

by Cookyman on Jul 6, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That makes sense, point conceded. I still want TI as our 1B for the 2nd half.

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by marcello on Jul 6, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've been wondering about this

Noticed a post in MLBTR discussing available corner infielders.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/07/trade-candidates-corner-infielders.html
Of the ones mentioned it seems to me Nick Johnson is the only one not a defensive liability. (I’m no expert so please feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.) I’m not saying one of these might not be a better option than TI, but my question is, are they enough better to give something up for? And how much? (Please ignore ending of sente3nce with preposition. Don’t feel like rewording.)

by Shoeless on Jul 6, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nick Johnson is very good at baseball. Sadly, he’s not good at staying healthy. He would be a worthwhile upgrade if he could stay healthy, but I’m not sure it’s worth the risk.

Of that list, the only guy I would be interested in (considering cost, skill, etc.) would be Branyan, but I doubt he’s available since the Mariners are fringe contending.

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.

by marcello on Jul 6, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, I forgot about him.

But this year is rather unexpected right? What are the chances he returns to form the 2nd half?

Also, what about 2nd basemen. I would rather see an upgrade there personally, but have no idea whose available and how much of an upgrade they would be and at what cost. I’m starting to think realistacally we may be best off with what we’ve got for this year. Even if we make the palyoffs, do we really expect to go far?

by Shoeless on Jul 6, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

This year is a bit unexpected, but he’s always been able to hit. The Mariners sites have covered him pretty extensively this year and there is reason to believe some of what he’s done is actual improvement in his skillset (read: sustainable).

As for 2B, as far as I can tell the best option available is probably Adam Kennedy, but I’d rather just see what Frandsen can do. Kennedy wouldn’t be enough of an upgrade, I think, to be worth it.

As for the playoffs, who knows? With our pitching, every game is winnable, it would just be a matter of if our hitters got hot at the right time. A couple great starters and a few great bullpen arms can go a long way.

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.

by marcello on Jul 6, 2009 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Any word on Josh Phelps?

Is he fully recovered from the shoulder (?) injury I think he went through earlier this season?

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Jul 6, 2009 6:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thomas Neal

he was pinch hit for in the 7th inning last night and isn’t in tonight’s starting lineup? Any word on why?

Bonds stands alone.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 6, 2009 10:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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