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Sandoval gets the shaft.

Pablo deserves to be an all-star this year and he was not named to the team. I hope somebody gets injured so Sandoval could make it on the team. MLB really needs to stop with the fans selecting the starting line ups because I'm so sick of seeing undeserving players go to the game. I know the game is "meaningless" but it's still nice to see your own guys out there. He definitely deserves it even if he is in his first full season. He is carrying our team offensively and this is a huge disappointment for Giants fans.


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Pablo didn’t make the All Star team. FML.

No, really, I have updated my blog this year: http://skaldheim.livejournal.com/tag/baseball

by Skaldheim on Jul 5, 2009 11:02 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Please Please Please

Everyone get Pablo Sandoval the final vote. Vote Now. Maybe the people will get it right this time.

Not jponry.

by jpo on Jul 5, 2009 11:04 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

When is Beltran due back? That will open up a roster spot if he can’t play.

Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Jul 5, 2009 11:08 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

oh yeah

i was blinded by rage. but still we need to hit the ballots hard to ensure pablo a spot. panda!

Not jponry.

by jpo on Jul 5, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

being as the NL only has 6 OFs, kemp or victorino would replace beltran

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Jul 5, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

is

ibanez gonna be back?

Not jponry.

by jpo on Jul 5, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pabloso in center! Vote! (again)

"The dreams ain't broken down here now, they're walking with a limp" --TW

by bgunn on Jul 5, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

On the initial all-star vote, there was a maximum of 50 votes for every email. So, no, there’s not a limit.

by J. Frank Parnell on Jul 5, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I already voted 30 or so times. My fingers got tired.

Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Jul 5, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

link?

Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!

by Azmanz on Jul 5, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s the first link on sfgiants.com

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 5, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

SFG site

Sir Alex Omar Hinshaw: It's not right if it's not left.

by The Enchanter on Jul 6, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This needs to be Rec'd

good reminder for everybody to vote

by superk1ng on Jul 5, 2009 11:09 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

WTF Kinsler didn’t make it either?

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 5, 2009 11:11 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

hill

deserved it more. and i’m glad jones got selected over markakis.

Not jponry.

by jpo on Jul 5, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kinsler is a lot better than Hill.

"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."

by i did my job on Jul 5, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Their numbers this year are pretty close to identical. Hill has a higher AVG, but Kinsler walks more, so they have almost the same OBP, as well as almost the same SLG and home runs. They’ve both struck out about 50 times in about 370 PAs. They both appear to be solid defensively.

Hill probably got the edge because he’s the one having an unexpectedly good year – his OPS is up almost 150 from last year. Whereas Kinsler’s has fallen about 60 points from last year (and, for the unwashed masses, his AVG has fallen especially far compare to last year).

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by jcb9 on Jul 5, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea, that was extremely shocking to me. He nearly beat out Pedroia for a starting nod!

Kinsler and Sandoval are my final votes.

by deuce deuce on Jul 5, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ditto

Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.

by Aadik on Jul 5, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too

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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 5, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I went inge and sandoval

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by Speedforthewin on Jul 5, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it’s lind and panda for me.

Not jponry.

by jpo on Jul 5, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I voted Inge as well.

Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Jul 5, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

this I do not understand

Pedroia hasnt even been good this year. Fuck Boston.

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by boonitez on Jul 5, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blaming the fans for electing a superstar like David Wright is a little misguided. The guy is is a 3-time All-Star and 2-time gold glove winner. With his body of work and the stellar season he’s having, there’s no reason to think Pablo was “robbed” because the fans had a vote.

I would have liked Pablo as a reserve, but Zimmerman’s a good player and the rules are what they are about every team being represented.

I hope Pablo is voted in for the “final spot”:

PLAYER TEAM POS AVG AB HR RBI SB
Cristian Guzman WSH SS .316 285 3 21 1
Matt Kemp LAD OF .303 297 10 44 19
Mark Reynolds ARI 3B .269 297 23 58 13
Pablo Sandoval SF 3B .333 279 12 44 3
Shane Victorino PHI OF .304 316 5 35 13

My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

by Goofus on Jul 5, 2009 11:12 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah

but he’s not having a better year than pablo. yadier is not better than bengie. and josh hamilton got voted a started. you’re misguided! this is a giants fan post.

Not jponry.

by jpo on Jul 5, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

bengie is terrible

there are a lot of players better than bengie

by superk1ng on Jul 5, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

just an example.

yadier doesn’t deserve the nod.

Not jponry.

by jpo on Jul 5, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He does over Bengie, maybe not over some other NL catchers.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 5, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

Not jponry.

by jpo on Jul 5, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Umm...

First you said “Yadier is not btter than Benjie” than when jponry said Yadier deserves the nod over Benjie, you agreed. Are you confused or just really easy to persuade?

My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

by Goofus on Jul 5, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow.

i’m sorry i changed my mind after considering what someone else said and looking at the evidence against what i said. i’m such a dick for that. yadier still shouldn’t be starting.

Not jponry.

by jpo on Jul 5, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just McCann

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by CB30 on Jul 5, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, the NL is weak in catching this year. Soto and Martin have both struggled. Pudge is playing well, but there aren’t many others.

Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Jul 5, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yadier is better than Bengie.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 5, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

you’re misguided! this is a giants fan post.

Yeah , so when you’ve been here awhile mr Goofy you’ll figure out what bias to play to good luk

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Jul 5, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

by Goofus on Jul 5, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

you’re misguided! this is a giants fan post.

I’m completely aware that this is a Giants fan post, but contending that the fans “shafted” Pablo because they voted for a true superstar instead of an a player most fans had never heard of before this year is absurd.

I REALLY hope Pablo makes it. He’s my favorite Giant, but that’s not the point. The fans chose Wright, a bonfire star, an excellent decorated player who’s having a great year. (His and Pablo’s numbers are pretty similar; Pablo is slugging more, but Wright has a better OBP.)

My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

by Goofus on Jul 5, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

fans shouldn't vote.

or they shouldn’t get all the vote for the starting line up. and yes the fans did shaft sandoval. people should vote on merit and not popularity. that would have given a chance for pablo to be voted in as a starter. and that’s the bottom line because stone cold said so.

Not jponry.

by jpo on Jul 5, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You’re taking this game waaaaaaay too seriously.

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.

by cheno on Jul 5, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

because i wanna see my giants well represented. they don’t get much national attention and they deserve more than EY (former giant) giving a shout out at the end of baseball tonight.

Not jponry.

by jpo on Jul 5, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did you see their midseason awards?

They gave Manager of the year to bighead, Cy young to Timmy, and surprise team to the Giants

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by Useful_Idiot on Jul 5, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The fans chose Wright, a bonfire star,

Oh…similar to Joan of Arc?

That’s hot.

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Jul 5, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

David Wright – Bonfire Maker Extraordinaire!

44-36 - Giants Series Record: 15-7-4, 11-2 at home

Adopted Giant: Daryl "Dealio" Maday - 3.63 ERA, .259 BAA, crappy 1.68 K/BB ratio in Norwich. OK.

by rhys on Jul 5, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That could be a vanity plate

My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

by Goofus on Jul 5, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pablo got robbed by the stupid manager/players – no way the team needs FOUR first basemen. Howard has no place on the team.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 5, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

fuck

ryan “career .250 hitter” howard.

Not jponry.

by jpo on Jul 5, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ll take the 40 dingers a year…

by baybruin415 on Jul 5, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s about all he does.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 5, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In the most hitter-friendly park in baseball

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by Useful_Idiot on Jul 5, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i would too

i’m just upset he got the spot over more deserving players. i’m really not only speaking about sandoval, but i wanna see the real all stars.

Not jponry.

by jpo on Jul 5, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Howard’s 122 OPS+ should not have been selected over Sandoval’s 146 OPS+, which is 11th best in the NL, by the way.

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Jul 5, 2009 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

would you also like a .220 avg with that?

Semi-proud adoptive father of Scott "Aaron" Barnes.

by boonitez on Jul 5, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, that’s not fair. Howard has never hit lower than .251, and is actually a .276 career hitter, with a .374 OBP. His strike outs are crazy, though.

Sandoval’s definitely having a better year.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on Jul 5, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And driven in 136+ runs in each of the last three years

by baybruin415 on Jul 5, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

RBIZ

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 5, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

not only is Howard his own player, Howard is also from St. Louis, site of the all star game. Extra incentive for Manuel to do a solid for guy.

Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!

by rxmeister on Jul 5, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe...

they’re planning a pre-game communist party meeting. that’s why so many red teams are being represented. looks like victorino and figgins get the final vote.

Not jponry.

by jpo on Jul 5, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or a conservative convention

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by Useful_Idiot on Jul 5, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mean, republican

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by Useful_Idiot on Jul 5, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s not that hard to do batting 4th in the Phillies lineup.

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by boonitez on Jul 5, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

howard=

future adam dunn.

Not jponry.

by jpo on Jul 5, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Minus the walks, and only plays one position poorly, instead of three

by m34josh on Jul 5, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Since SI is recommending to Sabean that he acquire Dunn does that also mean he could substitute (as an acquisition) Howard?

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Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Jul 5, 2009 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ASG is in St. Louis. Ryan Howard is a popular player who grew up in St. Louis.

by SeeingStars on Jul 5, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

and can you imagine how Howard would feel

if his own manager didn’t put him in the All-Star game? That’d really help the clubhouse atmosphere…

I like cheesecake.

by samlet on Jul 5, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s a big boy, he’d get over it.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on Jul 5, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

if this were facebook

i would like that comment jponry.

Not jponry.

by jpo on Jul 5, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can rec it.

by Natto on Jul 5, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

totally

recd.

Not jponry.

by jpo on Jul 5, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amen, sister!

Seriously, at what point do we stop worrying whether grown men are pissy because they weren’t picked first? If Howard wasn’t selected and he went crying into Manuel’s office, why can’t Manuel tell him to grow a pair? Sure, my niece used to cry like crazy if she was told no. When she was like, I don’t know… 3 years old. Is Ryan Howard a three-year-old girl?

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Jul 5, 2009 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

From Manuel himself
“I chose Ryan Howard because I feel he deserves to go,” Manuel said. “And also I feel like he’s our player — my player. I feel like our players are the reason why I’m managing in the All-Star Game in the first place. We won the World Series. My players put me there.”

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090705&content_id=5706348&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

by Natto on Jul 5, 2009 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no arguments on Wright’s talents, but definitely on his Gold Gloves. He gets those because of his hitting. The year he beat out Feliz for the GG was a joke. Even Mets’ fans will tell you that he’s an overrated defender. As for the voting, let’s face it, like the GG, you win that on name. An unknown like Pablo Sandoval has no chance in that kind of voting. Maybe next year.

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by rxmeister on Jul 5, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really think he can win the final vote, though

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by Useful_Idiot on Jul 5, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nevermind

there’s a Phillie on the list

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by Useful_Idiot on Jul 5, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Corey Hart can win, Pablo surely can.

by Hobbes2d on Jul 5, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

the rules are what they are about every team being represented

then send strasburg to sit on the bench.
half-joking, if it meant that pablo gets to go…

by sayheybk on Jul 5, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously, that was an awful decision

Charlie Manuel went with 3 backup 1b – wtf?

Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.

by Aadik on Jul 5, 2009 11:13 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

he wasn’t going to leave off his 1B and the other 2 reserves were more deserving

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by Speedforthewin on Jul 5, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He should have left off his 1B, who is probably the most overrated player in baseball. Working on his second straight year of not actually being any better than Adam LaRoche.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 5, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree, but a manager is going to take care of his own players

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by Speedforthewin on Jul 5, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They changed the reserve selection process years ago now thanks to the likes of Joe Torre selecting their relief pitchers as some of the most undeserving All Stars ever. Let’s stop the “taking care of his own players” bullshit and start selecting deserving players, whaddaya say?

I don’t mean you, I mean managers need to stop that bullshit.

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Jul 5, 2009 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I say the Giants win the world series and we see a lineup full of Giants in next years game because we would have the manager. Whaddaya say?

by m34josh on Jul 5, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I say, “Alright! Aurilia’s an All-Star!”

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by Goofus on Jul 5, 2009 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seeing 4 All-Star 1B really makes me wish we had one..

by baybruin415 on Jul 5, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah. Nearly a third of the teams in the NL have an All-Star 1B.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 5, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wish we had a 1st baseman.

by SFGuy on Jul 5, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Charlie and the Phil’s did not play or see Sandoval. By next year this will have changed.

by daniel9 on Jul 5, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But he can see a stat sheet, can’t he? Seriously!

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Jul 5, 2009 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

same as the Padres!

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by rxmeister on Jul 5, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

an aside

Why is HUNTER FREAKING PENCE on this team over players like kemp, victorino, sandoval and reynolds?

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by Speedforthewin on Jul 5, 2009 11:19 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

is he the only Astros rep?

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 5, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s pretty dumb then.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 5, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow. Lack of sense.

Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Jul 5, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kruk and Kuip said something about the players voting Pence on. I had no idea there was a special players’ vote.

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by Goofus on Jul 5, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, the managers only select about five guys each or something. They really are mostly chosen by the two votes.

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Jul 5, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Manuel's picks

first basemen Ryan Howard (Phillies) and Prince Fielder (Milwaukee Brewers), second baseman Freddy Sanchez (Pittsburgh Pirates) and pitchers Francisco Cordero (Cincinnati Reds), Ryan Franklin (Cardinals), Dan Haren (D-backs), Ted Lilly (Cubs) and Jason Marquis (Rockies).

by SFGuy on Jul 5, 2009 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have a bone to pick with the selections of Howard and Marquis, maybe Cordero

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by CB30 on Jul 5, 2009 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cordero’s the only Red, so I’ll allow it.

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Jul 5, 2009 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thats right, iI thought Cueto or Votto got in or soemthing

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by CB30 on Jul 6, 2009 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cordero does have 20 saves (WHIP of 1.14) and he’s the only Red.

by SFGuy on Jul 6, 2009 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m pretty surprised that the players didn’t vote Haren in

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by Useful_Idiot on Jul 6, 2009 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haren is a Manuel pick.

by SFGuy on Jul 7, 2009 1:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

…which means the players didn’t vote him in.

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Jul 7, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just re-read what useful wrote. I think I was half asleep and saw something else there.

by SFGuy on Jul 7, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does the player vote decide who is on before the manager selections?

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by CB30 on Jul 7, 2009 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Jul 8, 2009 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh

Epic Fail guys, Epic fail.

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 8, 2009 1:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought that it meant that

he wasn’t selected automatically, or via computer.

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on Jul 8, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just compared Vicorino’s numbers to Pence’s. I don’t think Shane has much to complain about.

My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

by Goofus on Jul 5, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They tricked me!

The box for “I would like to recieve commercial emails from MLB” automatically checks itself when you go to vote multiple times, and I didn’t notice

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by Useful_Idiot on Jul 5, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You tricked yourself.,

By using your actual email account instead of your spam account.

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by Bhaakon on Jul 5, 2009 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ryan Howard is perhaps the most overrated player around

He’s a 1B with an .853 OPS this year – why on earth is he on the squad? Its the all-star team, not the Phillies west

Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.

by Aadik on Jul 5, 2009 11:21 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

the Phillies fans on a general board i go to are claiming it’s because of his glove. lol

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 5, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it’s because his manager likes him

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Jul 5, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Randy Johnson should bean Hunter Pence

For the sake of all National League players that got snubbed lmao

by Carmelballin on Jul 5, 2009 11:23 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

philly and LA. nonbiased fans will vote for kemp, sandoval or reynolds

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Jul 5, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

fixed

we got Let’s get Bonds in

WE CAN DO IT!

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Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Jul 5, 2009 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You should retitle this thread

The San Francisco Giants: Where old men go to die.

by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 5, 2009 11:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

Ryan Howard has a .328 OBP this year.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 5, 2009 11:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Kisler and Panda

Do it America

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 5, 2009 11:27 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

figgins?

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Jul 5, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

panda

pride.

Not jponry.

by jpo on Jul 5, 2009 11:30 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Someone go over to Lone Star ball and arrange a “deal”. Quid pro quo style.

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 5, 2009 11:31 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It’s nicel how, on the final vote ballot, mlb.com helpfully checks the Yes I Want You To Spam me box every time you vote.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on Jul 5, 2009 11:35 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

meh

I get their spam anyways. Sometimes there’s something interesting.

Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl

by Viliphied on Jul 5, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know, right? I already get those emails from them though, so I guess it doesn’t matter.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 5, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

who says you have to use a real email address?

Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.

by Aadik on Jul 5, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OT: How cheap would Derek Lee come?

My Will Clark will kick your honor students ass!

by jbowl on Jul 5, 2009 11:37 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I hear he can be had for Hee-Seop Choi.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on Jul 5, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not cheap enough

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 5, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

this

i thought the limit was supposed to be 25 but i’ve definitely cleared that already

by TimLincecumIsGod on Jul 5, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is only a limit for voting on the starters.

by Natto on Jul 5, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

MLB WANTS fans to spam vote.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Jul 5, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Props to Mets announcers

Saying that they hope Pablo wins the final vote and makes the all star team. Not only because he deserves it talent wise, but because he’s a “delightful young man” and fun to watch.

Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!

by rxmeister on Jul 5, 2009 11:39 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I appreciate it

But they only said it because there are no Mets in it

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by CB30 on Jul 5, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So?

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.

by cheno on Jul 5, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

he is fat and had braces. can you get more delightful?

Not jponry.

by jpo on Jul 5, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is certainly that.

Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Jul 5, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Emmanuel Burriss is on the ballot??

by Natto on Jul 5, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

When do the final vote results come in, by the way?

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on Jul 5, 2009 11:40 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Voting ends Thursday, so probably Thursday night or Friday morning.

Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Jul 5, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We did it once before to get Barry into the game in 2007. Can we get another 11th hour vote to work for Pablo?

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 5, 2009 11:40 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

si se puede

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 5, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was hoping I’d never have to hear that chant ever again…

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McCC = McClain Chronicles

by Useful_Idiot on Jul 5, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Relocate to Antarctica.

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Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Jul 5, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

WE BEAT 'EM BEFORE

WE’LL BEAT ’EM AGAIN

Status: So pissed that the Giants sold my wall of Ks to Johnsonville Sausages, that I'm boycotting purchasing anything at the park, or patronizing their sponsors.

by GiantBrass on Jul 5, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

VOTE FOR PANDA

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 5, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can we do it? Yes we can!

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Jul 5, 2009 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is that a doozer?

"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.

by hairball on Jul 6, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bob the Builder

Who does bear a striking resemblance to Doozers, doesn’t he?

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Jul 6, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

By the way, lines on the five

Sandoval: .337 / .377 / .540 / 12 HR / 43 K in 307 PA
Kemp: .303 / .367 / .375 / 10 HR / 74 K in 330 PA
Guzman: .316 / .331 / .428 / 3 HR / 41 K in 296 PA
Victorino: .304 / .367 / .453 / 5 HR / 39 K in 316 PA
Reynolds: .269 / .355 / .562 / 23 HR / 109 K in 338 PA

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on Jul 5, 2009 11:45 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

…and if Guzman wins, y’all can go ahead and shoot me in the face.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on Jul 5, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He wont

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 5, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Guzman wins, the end is upon us.

by Natto on Jul 5, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Guzman wins, it’ll be because I was confused I thought I was voting for Jesus Guzman

My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

by Goofus on Jul 5, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you suggesting that the Natinals have fans?

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McCC = McClain Chronicles

by Useful_Idiot on Jul 5, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

do you mean .475 for Kemp?

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 5, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

for SLG i mean

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 5, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No...

Shhhhh…

Status: So pissed that the Giants sold my wall of Ks to Johnsonville Sausages, that I'm boycotting purchasing anything at the park, or patronizing their sponsors.

by GiantBrass on Jul 5, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that was a typo.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on Jul 5, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im scared all the casual fans will be like OMGZ REYNOLDZ HITZ DINGERZ!!!! And vote for him. :(

by Hobbes2d on Jul 5, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I doubt casual fans would even know who Mark Reynolds is

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McCC = McClain Chronicles

by Useful_Idiot on Jul 5, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only other one who makes sense is Reynolds

The San Francisco Giants: Where old men go to die.

by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 5, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Pablo > Reynolds

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 5, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Guzman and Reynolds shouldn’t get in. No way Arizona should get 3 All Stars and no way Washington should get more than one.

by SFGuy on Jul 5, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also, Guzman isn’t even having a good season.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on Jul 5, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have a sinking suspicion it’s going to be Reynolds, thanks to the homer and RBI counts. Hooray for ignorance!

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Jul 5, 2009 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've said this before, but...

…if Sandoval hadn’t gone just over the limit last year, he would almost surely be the Rookie of the Year front runner this season. Instead, it’s likely Colby Rasmus, who’s having a solid season but nothing like Sandoval:

.278 / .326 / .488, 10 HR, 18 2B

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on Jul 5, 2009 12:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Casey McGeeeeeeheeeeee (I might have spelled it wrong. It might need more e’s) is having a better year than that, although he’s only played 47 games. I think he’s the leader so far.

Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!

by rxmeister on Jul 5, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahhh, I didn’t realize he qualified.

Rasmus has been getting better each month, so it’ll be interesting to see where it ends up.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on Jul 5, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+ walk-off HR against the giants…

:(

44-36 - Giants Series Record: 15-7-4, 11-2 at home

Adopted Giant: Daryl "Dealio" Maday - 3.63 ERA, .259 BAA, crappy 1.68 K/BB ratio in Norwich. OK.

by rhys on Jul 5, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+ pop-up called third strike walk-off HR against the giants…

FYP

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Jul 5, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, really.

44-36 - Giants Series Record: 15-7-4, 11-2 at home

Adopted Giant: Daryl "Dealio" Maday - 3.63 ERA, .259 BAA, crappy 1.68 K/BB ratio in Norwich. OK.

by rhys on Jul 5, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Inge

Maybe Sabean was right to have interest in him?

Nah. But those 18 homers would be nice on the Giants.

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on Jul 5, 2009 12:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Grrr…. not a whole lot to add here – just severely disappointed in the whole “4 1st Baseman” thing, which is totally ridiculous. They didn’t need Prince, if they were going to bring Howard and Gonzalez – who I both understand being voted in. Or, they didn’t need TWO PADRES. They didn’t need TWO ASTROS. These bad teams getting rewarded is what shocks me most… TWO ROCKIES!? Come on…

by zuma420 on Jul 5, 2009 1:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Prince > Howard

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 5, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure – but Howard has the whole “St. Louis” backstory, and his manager is picking the players… that’s why it seems like he’s unnecessary to me. Or Gonzalez… either way, they don’t need FOUR 1B in a NL park.

by zuma420 on Jul 5, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Manuel should’ve taken Kirk Rueter

"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."

by i did my job on Jul 5, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OPS Comparison

Pablo .954
Reynolds .917
Wright .891
Lawrence Jones .884
Zimmerman .851
Blake .848

Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??

by tobias on Jul 5, 2009 1:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

D-WOODEN PARTITION FOR ONE’S GARDEN

"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."

by i did my job on Jul 5, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

WAR? What is it good for?

No, really, I have updated my blog this year: http://skaldheim.livejournal.com/tag/baseball

by Skaldheim on Jul 5, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

lolocaust.

Not jponry.

by jpo on Jul 5, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Employment.

While visiting the Momz in NM this weekend I had an interesting time (if you’re a fan of conflicting opinions) talking with my brother , whose 15 yr old son is already mentally committed to the Marines. His father is of the firm belief that “All men must at some time defend their country” which is what we’re doing in Afghanistan.

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Jul 5, 2009 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

God be with him

And Jesus and Buddha and all those guys too.

Supporting San Francisco Dugout since 2005 and Manny Burriss since 2006, and bringing you all your California League needs since 2009.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 5, 2009 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jury's out on Buddha's gender

Thass’ some rack!

(Apologies to Buddhists)
(I’m fucked anyway , huh?)

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Jul 5, 2009 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I bet Kemp deserves to be in over hunter pence as well

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Jul 5, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pablo deserves the final vote over Kemp because he’s not evil.

by Natto on Jul 5, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also, Pablo knows how to smile properly

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by Useful_Idiot on Jul 5, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And doesnt have a douchey beard

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 5, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is an excellent point.

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Jul 5, 2009 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I beter the Baseball Tonight people pick Sandoval. They love the guy, so that should help.

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.

by cheno on Jul 5, 2009 2:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ibanez and beltran

probably wont play so maybe if kemp or victorino wins the voting they’ll still select sandoval to fill one of the injured dudes’ spots.

Not jponry.

by jpo on Jul 5, 2009 2:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

remember atlee hammaker

wasn’t he voted in to the all star game his rookie year? he was never the same again.

No one here gets out alive.

by Bond16 on Jul 5, 2009 2:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Good thing this isn’t Pablo’s rookie year!

by Natto on Jul 5, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i know. close enough.

No one here gets out alive.

by Bond16 on Jul 5, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

pablo

doesn’t pitch either.

Not jponry.

by jpo on Jul 5, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i must have voted a million times already

adam lind must be lovin me.

Not jponry.

by jpo on Jul 5, 2009 2:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

BLEAGRGHAHA!

I accidentally put my birthdate worng so it wont let me vote!

The San Francisco Giants: Where old men go to die.

by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 5, 2009 4:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Fail

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 5, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

For all intents and purposes, Pablo is having a better year than David Wright also. It’s a freaking popularity contest

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by Useful_Idiot on Jul 5, 2009 4:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

BILL FUCKING HALL had more votes

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 5, 2009 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Starting lineups are based on last year and reserves are based on this year. There are some exceptions (like Ibanez) but that’s usually how it works.

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.

by cheno on Jul 5, 2009 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well...

Whether it’s sports or show business, isn’t the definition of a “star” someone people want to see? I say this every year when people get to carried away looking at half a season of statisitics and decide someone does or doesn’t deserve it.

It’s not called the All Stat game.

My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

by Goofus on Jul 5, 2009 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

all-star games

are supposed to be the best players each season, not the most popular players from each season.

Not jponry.

by jpo on Jul 5, 2009 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree

Show me where that’s MLB’s written policy and I’ll believe you. I don’t think that’s ever been baseball’s intention, but rather to showcase the “stars” and therefore, the game.

If it were just the best players for that season, why would they let players, fans and managers pick the players? Shouldn’t they let a computer pick them?

By your logic, Cal Ripken wouldn’t have been on the 2005 AL team, which would have robbed baseball of a great moment.

My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

by Goofus on Jul 5, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

such a great moment

in a game you don’t care about. they should let the players coaches and media pick. or else josh hamilton starts. ripken would have been a coaches pick anyway.

Not jponry.

by jpo on Jul 5, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You’re all over the place with how you feel about this game’s worth.

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.

by cheno on Jul 5, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

me?

i think i’ve been pretty clear about how i feel about the game.

Not jponry.

by jpo on Jul 5, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So what’s the harm in letting the fans be a part of the game? Is it really that bad that they pick real stars instead of three-month stars?

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.

by cheno on Jul 5, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

PROTIP

The players, coaches and media would fuck this up just as badly as the fans do.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 5, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Charlie Manuel is the one who put Ryan Howard in over Pablo Sandoval.

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Jul 5, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

sandoval

is one of many all star selection fuck ups. and sandoval is a fuck up that strikes home for giants fans i’m sure we all agree that sandoval deserves to be on the team and really should be starting.

Not jponry.

by jpo on Jul 5, 2009 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

or

could be starting.

Not jponry.

by jpo on Jul 5, 2009 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

To be fair

The fans gave more votes to Pedro Feliz and Bill Hall than to Sandoval

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 5, 2009 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

and

i feel like if sandoval was higher in the fan voting it would have helped get him some attention from being a player or coach selection. guzman should have been selected over zimmerman for the nats because short is thin this season and guzman should be on the team backing up tejada.

Not jponry.

by jpo on Jul 5, 2009 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Most of those votes cam before Sandoval had become more than a fluke.

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.

by cheno on Jul 5, 2009 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

and I’m pretty sure it was a coaching decision that put Hillenbrand on the team over Hafner a few years ago.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 6, 2009 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boy, Hafner rose and fell really quickly.

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.

by cheno on Jul 6, 2009 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

sheesh

When did I say I don’t care about the ASG?

I said it’s a showcase of the star players and great marketing for MLB. That doesn’t mean I don’t care abut it. (I watch it every year and actively root for the NL.)

My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

by Goofus on Jul 6, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The problem I have is that it counts for home-field advantage in the WS. It’s ridiculous to me that fans get to vote for the players who will compete for something like that

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McCC = McClain Chronicles

by Useful_Idiot on Jul 6, 2009 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

They should go back to making it not count for anything.

by Jakespaar on Jul 7, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

When do the injured guys get replaced?

Doesn’t look like Ibanez or Beltran will play. So the NL will likely add Kemp and Victorino because otherwise they have zero center fielders. Do they wait until after this vote to add guys?

by m34josh on Jul 5, 2009 4:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The Giants broadcasters were upset Bengie didn’t make it. Bias I guess. Bengie doesn’t deserve it with a .698 OPS (good for 69th in the NL).

by SFGuy on Jul 5, 2009 4:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

but DINGERZ AND RBIZ!!!

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Adopted Giant: Daryl "Dealio" Maday - 3.63 ERA, .259 BAA, crappy 1.68 K/BB ratio in Norwich. OK.

by rhys on Jul 5, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

1 pitch groundouts from your cleanup hitter screams “All Star”

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by CB30 on Jul 5, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does it really matter if Pablo makes it or not?? It’s a meaningless All Star Game. I wish Cain and Lincecum weren’t going. The Giants are actually in the race right now when the past 4 seasons they were out by now. Let’s give the guys 4 days off to prepare for the 2nd half. Let them hunting and fishing.

by SFGuy on Jul 5, 2009 5:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hunting and fishing sounds like too much fun. Maybe they’d be better off passing the time in silent contemplation in a Unabomber-style shack, eating nothing but homemade mush.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on Jul 5, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

“Unabomber-style”?? To what attack Dodger Stadium??

by SFGuy on Jul 5, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just don’t let them go hunting with Dick Cheney

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by Goofus on Jul 5, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I doubt it’s meaningless to him. Also, I like the ASG.

by Natto on Jul 5, 2009 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We’ll there are 10,000 McCoven, and we have no lives so we can vote 1,000 times each. That’s at least 10 MILLION VOTES!

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by MonkeyChow on Jul 5, 2009 5:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

the title of this post combined with this picture provides a new reason why Pablo didn’t start today…

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Jul 5, 2009 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

we're just talkin bout shaft

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 5, 2009 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We can dig it

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by Speedforthewin on Jul 5, 2009 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well before you do anything rash...

…dig this.

50 , 000 Frankenfrancs to whomever posts the chorus of my referenced quote.

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Jul 5, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Everybody plays the fool (sometime);
There’s no exception to the rule (listen, baby).
It may be factual, may be cruel (I ain’t lying),
Everybody plays the fool.

WOO-OOO-OOO

Whatcha gonna do, brother, when Bowkermania walks wild on you?

by rightcenterfielder on Jul 5, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Winnah!

so lovin’ my am radio youth spent in the east bay…there was a Bonds in the outfield then.
In center field.

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Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Jul 5, 2009 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anybody else not have a problem with Wakefield getting a Lifetime Achievement selection?

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.

by cheno on Jul 5, 2009 6:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I have no issue with it

Look, he had a strong win total, that’s why he got in. To a lesser degree, that’s why marquis got in. Both have gaudy win totals not matching up with their performance so far. Marquis has an ERA just south of 4, so no one is going to complain. Wakefield has an ERA in the 4’s so people may gripe. I just treat it as the way the system works, W’s are still overvalued, and Maddon knows this, and put in Wake.

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by Speedforthewin on Jul 5, 2009 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well I just think this is like Scorsese winning Best Director for The Departed or Kobe winning MVP this year. He probably doesn’t deserve it for this season alone, but for his career he does deserve to be called an all star.

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.

by cheno on Jul 5, 2009 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

his consistency deserves to be recognized and maddon found a way to do it

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by Speedforthewin on Jul 5, 2009 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus, its fun to watch his knuckleball in HD and giggle at the batters flail at it

by m34josh on Jul 5, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wakefield is 89 years old and he wouldn’t have made it if the roster spot wasn’t added.

by SFGuy on Jul 5, 2009 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

MLB Network likes Pablo. They have their All Star special and when the host, Victor Rojas, asked the two, Mitch Williams and Dave Valle, to pick their NL Final Vote candidate, both picked Sandoval. Both them picked different AL choices.

by SFGuy on Jul 6, 2009 12:29 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

^that’s pretty good news. From what I’ve read around the net, people all over the country want to see Pablo get into this game, because they want to see him play. Some are even calling for him to be in the Home Run Derby, as his performance in the All Star Game in Venzuela is “internet famous”.

by zuma420 on Jul 6, 2009 1:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe updates are given daily so we may find out who is getting the vote early so people could continue to vote or more to catch up to whomever is leading.

by SFGuy on Jul 6, 2009 1:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love Pablo

he is probably the best 3B in the NL so far this year. You cannot really fault voters

However, last year counts too.

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on Jul 6, 2009 11:16 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This needs to be mentioned

What the hell is Marquis doing on the team over Cueto or Gallardo?

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by CB30 on Jul 6, 2009 3:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

or Vasquez

but Marquis leads the NL in wins

I know that will drive you all crazy

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 6, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would be weird.

by Natto on Jul 6, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d never noticed the “Giant” and “Panda” connection before. Cool.

Goofus Jr. gave me a Giants jersey (it’s this weird Nike thing I’ve never seen before.) I was thinking of having “Panda” and 48 sewn on it.

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by Goofus on Jul 6, 2009 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Orlando Hudson's the stinker

And it’s the player’s fault – they voted him in instead of Pablito. I guess the NL players just don’t want to have home field advantage in the series ever again.

Not even close!!!
Orlando Hudson: .288/.355/.416/.770 >> 5 HR & 41 RBI
Panda: .333/.388/.566/.954 >> 12 HR & 44 RBI

The way it works is that the fans pick the starters and the players pick the backups for each position. The players elected these position reserves: Brian McCann; Adrian Gonzalez; Orlando Hudson; Ryan Zimmerman; Miguel Tejada; Brad Hawpe; Justin Upton; and Hunter Pence.

Charlie Manuel picked the following: Ryan Howard, Prince Fielder, and Freddy Sanchez.

Because the players picked Hudson over Freddy Sanchez (his line is also quite a bit better than Hudson’s: .316/.355/.477/.832), and because of the “at least 1 player from each team” rule, Manuel was forced to choose Sanchez over Pablito (with McLouth gone he had no other real choice for the Pirates rep).

From the above list you can also see that the players shafted Pablito a 2nd time by picking Ryan Zimmerman as the backup 3B after David Wright. Pablito has better numbers even though he plays half his games in a much worse hitters park in comparison to Zman.

BTW, since there’s no DH in the game, and the NL has only 2 3Bs (unless we vote Panda in), I believe that Manuel’s plan to justify having 4 1Bs will be to start Pujols at 1B and then move him to 3B in the middle innings. That way the Card fans will love him for letting Pujols play 6 or 7 innings.

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Jul 6, 2009 7:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

One more thing

I forgot to add that Hudson has been horrible the last 5-6 weeks. Near the end of May his batting average was in the .330s, so he must have hit barely over .200 for the month of June.

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Jul 6, 2009 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Done

25 votes, my lucky number

I'm talking about Mountain Dews baby.

by GSWhode on Jul 7, 2009 11:25 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

How about 25 × 25?

by Natto on Jul 7, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This

and 25 × 25 × 25 seems even luckier.

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by The Enchanter on Jul 7, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OUT OF ALL PEOPLE, VICTORINO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i can see if reynolds got on the team because he has the highest stats but victorino didnt deserve to win.

by KENN on Jul 10, 2009 2:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

sandoval gets the shaft

did we expect anything less? really?

by nhlogan on Jul 10, 2009 3:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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