Giants Position Production 1999-2009

by xanthan on Jul 4, 2009 11:05 AM PDT Comment 37 comments

I took the Giants positional players from 1999-2009 and plotted their sOPS+ scores. A sOPS+ score of 100 for any position on this graph indicates that the player was an average hitter in regards to the position.

Also, remember this:

A quick note about this graph. The red horizontal line indicates a score of 100 or a league average hitter for that position. We are also counting total production for each position. So, it’s not just the starter at the position, but the total overall production line (starters, bench players, substitutions) from that position. And remember that we’re not really considering defensive value in today’s post. So, some players who aren’t necessarily great hitters might look a little worse than intended. A pretty good example of this is Omar Vizquel in 2007. He accounted for 85% of the SS production on that Giants team while putting up a 71 sOPS+. But, he was very good defensively that year and was worth around +2 wins as a total player.

Here's the infiedlers

And the outfielders

Quick thoughts!

You'll be happy to know that the 2009 sOPS+ for 2B is the lowest of any other position on the Giants in the past 10 years. Icky.
The Giants don't really seem to understand 1B from an offensive point of view.
LF was good. Who was that guy again?
Pablo Sandoval is largely responsible for the best 3B production that the Giants have seen in the last 10 years.
Man, the early days of Rich Aurilia and Jeff Kent sure were nice. Check out 2001, that's a very good hitting middle infield.

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LOL LF

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by jponry on Jul 4, 2009 11:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Yikes,

2b is awful.

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by giants9107 on Jul 4, 2009 11:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

3rd base production was near average for most of that time. That Surprises me.

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by daveinexile on Jul 4, 2009 11:12 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Feliz was pretty OK, well maybe

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by CB30 on Jul 4, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Roose!!

Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??

by tobias on Jul 7, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The drop from over 200 sOPS+ to 100 in LF is pretty hilarious.

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by Zetsuboushita on Jul 4, 2009 11:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Damn Kent was good…

by Hobbes2d on Jul 4, 2009 11:23 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

We were spoiled to have Kent and Bonds together.

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by CB30 on Jul 4, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

No idea how they missed the playoffs in 2001 with Bonds, Aurilia, and Kent. Sure, it probably would’ve led to a first-round exit again, but still…

by peetah on Jul 7, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

In 2001, the rotation was not so good. Livan and Gardner’s ERA+ were in the 70s, Rueter was in the 90s, Estes was at 100, and only Russ Ortiz (Russ Ortiz!) was above-average for the entire year. Schmidt helped a lot when he came over, but it was pretty late in the season.

The bullpen was lights out though. So that’s good.

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by groug on Jul 7, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, all true. But it’s just sad, thinking back on that season and Richie going crazy. It would have given the Diamondbacks -1 championships, too…

From my spotty memory, they were really spotty at scoring runs, too. I think there were a lot of solo home runs that year…

by peetah on Jul 7, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Barry Bonds and Rich Aurilia combined to hit 110 home runs that year. Some of them were bound to be solo shots.

But yeah, they scored 799 runs. Not bad, but not spectacular.

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by groug on Jul 7, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah. I wonder how Bonds/Aurilia 2001 compare to other players in RBI/HR. His 97 RBI and 37 HR seem low, but Adrian Gonzalez is on pace for 103/47 this year. Griffey had 90/40 in 1994, and Dunn had 92/40 recently.

Admittedly who knows if there would have been as many HR if there were more runners on or the pitching staff didn’t get into 8-0 holes… but it was just a thought.

by peetah on Jul 7, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oops, that should be Richie’s 97/37. Bonds was at 137/73, which seems really low given the random other comparables that I pulled out of thin air.

by peetah on Jul 7, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The 2001 Giants were 1st in HR, 2nd in SLG, 3rd in OBP…. and 5th in runs. How does that happen? I don’t remember them being an exceptionally bad baserunning team, but that’s a lot of GIDP and running into outs.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 7, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

We were only 6th in wOBA. Also, 57 stolen bases and 42 caught stealing didn’t help.

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by Cookyman on Jul 7, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

How hard is it to get an above average offensive first baseman?

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by CB30 on Jul 4, 2009 11:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

left handed hitters don’t want to sign here I guess

by jctGamer on Jul 4, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Brian Sabean doesn’t want to sign them.

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by cornball on Jul 4, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think the LF was Michael Tucker.

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by Natto on Jul 4, 2009 11:56 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I love how 2006-2007 Barry looks absolutely terrible compared to what he did a few year before, even though he lead the league in OBP both those years.

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by Cookyman on Jul 4, 2009 12:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

hmmmm

JT was below average?

I dont remember

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 4, 2009 1:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

JT was a below average hitter compared to the league average 1B?

Yes, most definitely.

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by xanthan on Jul 4, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Except for that one year where he was really awesome.

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by jponry on Jul 4, 2009 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bizzaro Snow! That might have been one of the strangest seasons I’ve ever seen. Snow had a career BABIP of .306 but in ’04 his BABIP was .370 and he hit .327/.429/.529. What a weird season.

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by xanthan on Jul 4, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not really that weird, just a fluky BABIP. He also showed more power than usual, but nothing crazy.

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by Cookyman on Jul 4, 2009 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

It mostly weird to me since Snow had been winding down as an offensive player and then out of nowhere he posts a +3 win season with the bat. I guess it was his last hurrah.

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by xanthan on Jul 4, 2009 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Injuries in previous years probably had a lot to do with it. Looking at his splits vs LHP is kinda funny though. He was way better once he made the switch to abandon switch hitting altogether.

by Hobbes2d on Jul 5, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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I think Eric Karros was 2nd.

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