Downs sent down; Uribe is the everyday 2B
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O GOD NO
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by Zetsuboushita on Jul 3, 2009 11:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Frandsen is out getting drunk right now
Crying in his beer
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 3, 2009 11:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I still like Uribe.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Jul 3, 2009 11:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We could really use a second baseman who doesn’t suck
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by jponry on Jul 3, 2009 11:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No, let’s give this other thing a shot for a while.
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by groug on Jul 3, 2009 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HEY, LOOK AT ME, I'M GINATZ BRASZ
I’M GOING TO KEEP GIVING ORLYA SHOTS TO “REDEEM” HIMSELF, EVEN THOUGH HE’S CLOSE TO BEING WASHED UP (PROBABLY) BUT NOT FRED LEWIS, EVEN THOUGH HE’S PROBABLY IN HIS PRIME AND IS AT THE VERY WORST A GOOD 4TH OUTFIELDER/PLATOON PARTNER.
AND I’M GOING TO CARRY 5 INFIELDERS EVEN THOUGH ONLY TWO OF THEM CAN PASSABLY PLAY IN THE MIDDLE, SO IF ONE OF THE TWO GOES DOWN OR SUMTHIN, I HAVE TO PUT ORLYA THAT GREAT VETERAN GIANT AT SECOND.
I’M SO SMART OMGZ
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
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by baetown415 on Jul 3, 2009 11:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey, this is a team that carried 1 1/2 catchers. Only morons do this.
by SFGuy on Jul 4, 2009 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually It Is You And Mr Beatown415 That Are Showing Yourselves To Be The Morons
Using the starting 3B as the only backup catcher was a short term move that worked out just fine and it is very likely that using the starting 2B as the only backup SS and going with just five infielders (while going with 8 in the bullpen) for a simular short term (say until the All-Star Break) will also work out just fine.
by giantsrainman on Jul 4, 2009 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love how you mostly show up these days to defend bizarre roster decisions by the Giants and then disappear once more into the night.
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by jponry on Jul 4, 2009 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does he talk in the weird gravely voice?
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 4, 2009 1:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is a ridiculously stupid idea. Now we’re going to see washed up Rich Aurilia playing all around the infield, and getting starts against righthanders because he’s the lone backup infielder. We have seen recently that Edgar Renteria is more effective when he gets a day or two off, yet now that means the dropoff will be severe because Aurilia will be in the lineup. This team has not had the balls to do what they should have done all season, which is tell Richie that it’s over. Just give me the phone you gutless cowards, and I’ll make the call for you. I’m not upset for Downs, but I’m upset for Frandsen. He’s the one who should be in this role that they’re giving to someone who’s no longer capable of doing it.
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by rxmeister on Jul 4, 2009 4:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
In other words the Bothy/Sabean era keeps on behaveing like the Bochy/Sabean era. And Yes I blame the Big Head for part of this. I am sure the front office asked him would you rather have player X, Y or Aurilia. If Aurilia stay for more than a few day we know the answer from Bork!
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by daveinexile on Jul 4, 2009 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is a ridiculous claim!
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by GiantBrass on Jul 4, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
just for fun, could you provide a defense of the decision to sign Michael Tucker in December of 2003?
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 4, 2009 12:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
getting lucky doesn’t make it a smart move. In fact, I recall a situation or two that they could have run for Bengie and didn’t precisely b/c there was no backup. but we’ve been over this before.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 4, 2009 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As do I. I remember discussing it in the Gameday threads of those games, but cannot find them for the life of me.
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by Giant among Angels on Jul 4, 2009 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
GRM is ok with bad decisions if they work out ok. I am not.
And Aurilia being on the roster PERIOD is a bad decision.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
by baetown415 on Jul 4, 2009 12:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Am Ok With Creative Short Term Solutions When Needed And You Should Be Too.
by giantsrainman on Jul 4, 2009 1:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t mind the 1.5 catcher deal, since it was a scripted short run deal, and made some sense as it allowed for some roster decisions to play out.
The question I’d like you to answer is: Aurilia, why?
Aurilia makes sense as as a lefty masher, even if he hasn’t done particularly well as that so far: his history is strong there. And he can give you that high leverage at bat of the bench late in a game, or at least is the best candidate the giants have for that. All of that is useful….
But it has become VERY clear that 2nd base is the position where the Giants must upgrade. So unless a trade occurs, it has to be either Downs with an occasional Uribe, or it has to be Frandsen. Also very clear is that Renteria needs regular rest, so either Uribe or Frandsen will get quite a bit of play as backup SS (and the club needs Uribe as backup 3b).
So, I infer you—and at this point, the giants—are trying to ride out Uribe at 2nd until the break or a move is necessary by poor play or injury. Still, what does that gain? You still have to make a decision on either Aurilia or miller or medders. Is it likely that much is going to change in the little time left before the break?
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by haverecords on Jul 4, 2009 3:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it might have something to do with Aurilia’s father’s death. Aurilia’s been around (off and on) for a long time, and they probably don’t want to kick him when he’s down; it’s just bad form to fire a long-time employee immediately upon his return from his father’s funeral.
If this is the case, and they’re just giving Aurilia a little time (say, through the all-star break), I’d be OK with that decision.
by Louis XVI on Jul 4, 2009 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let this be right. Let this be right. Let this be rtight.
/ makes chopping motions down forearm.
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Fuggen Rox! You might want to try beating The Bums more than once in 10 games. Try it. You might find you like it.
by daveinexile on Jul 4, 2009 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
MLB is tough business. It isn’t little league baseball. To heck with feelings.
by SFGuy on Jul 4, 2009 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trades Take Time
I believe this short term roster solution is all about buying time to make the trade the Giants want to make that will also allow the Giants to return to the more traditional roster configuration of 7 Relievers and 6 Infielders instead of 8 Relievers and 5 Infielders. My guess is that the Giants are looking into turning Sanchez, an outfielder (ideally Lewis), and a middle grade prospect or two into the desired right handed bat Sabean has said they are seeking.
by giantsrainman on Jul 4, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think carrying 2 middle infielders is a creative or good idea.
And carrying 1.5 catchers wasn’t the head-scratching part…. the 1.5 catchers because you want to carry 6 outfielders (well, 5 plus Velez) was perplexing.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
by baetown415 on Jul 4, 2009 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Saying “period” in all capitals is a sure way to win any argument.
by Louis XVI on Jul 4, 2009 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really
It’s just a way to put more emphasis.
However, talking about someone’s diction sure is a way to win an argument.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
by baetown415 on Jul 4, 2009 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why are you arguing after I said "period"?
“Period” means this conversation is over PERIOD
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by GiantBrass on Jul 4, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it meant your stance would bleeding profusely all over the place and you are requesting time to clean it up.
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Fuggen Rox! You might want to try beating The Bums more than once in 10 games. Try it. You might find you like it.
by daveinexile on Jul 4, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't think that just perhaps
Having Molina play every day for a couple months could have had something to do with the precipitous decline in his production?
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by Roger on Jul 4, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
fixed
Having Molina play every day for a couple months a couple years could have had something to do with the precipitous decline in his production?
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by jponry on Jul 4, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The catcher thing was unusual but not moronic. Uribe and Aurilia on the same team on the other hand…
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 4, 2009 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh this is a decision full of fail. :(
I mean granted I don’t really think Frandsen is going to be any better than Uribe, but can they at least bring him back if they’re going to dump Downs so we have more depth in the MIF? I really don’t like the idea of having a short bench especially with Bochy around to make stupid double switches in the 5th inning of a game.
Please trade for Uggla or Sanchez like ASAP. For fucks sake.
by Hobbes2d on Jul 4, 2009 3:16 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Too bad the Fish aren’t biting on that.
I do shudder at the thought of Uggla’s Defense, though.
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by haverecords on Jul 4, 2009 3:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s a lot of rumors going on with the Pirates though. Considering their quest to get every C level prospect out there, Sanchez should come relatively cheap.
by SeeingStars on Jul 4, 2009 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d trade Jonathan for Freddie.
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by jponry on Jul 4, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aurilia at SS
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by jponry on Jul 4, 2009 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Imagine. We complain about Rent’s range now. Aurilia would be comical at SS on a ML roster.
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by Giant among Angels on Jul 4, 2009 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, Richie Will Be At 2B With One Of Renteria Or Uribe At SS When The Other Is On The Bench.
In the remaining 8 games of this homestand (after today) this should happen just twice to give both Renteria and Uribe a day off. I would guess that Richie might also get a start each at 1B and 3B in these next 8 games to give Ishikawa and Sandoval a day off.
Again, I see no problem with this as a short term solution while Brian works on the trade or two he would like to do at the All-Star Break.
by giantsrainman on Jul 4, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only way this is a suitable short term solution
is that there is a trade coming involving one of the pitchers, and we don’t want to DFA anybody in the next week or so. Possibly because we need to showcase Sanchez more to trade him.
Like, a SANCHEZ FOR SANCHEZ SWAP EH EH EH!? SABEAN?
by jctGamer on Jul 4, 2009 10:23 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That is just dirty of you.
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Fuggen Rox! You might want to try beating The Bums more than once in 10 games. Try it. You might find you like it.
by daveinexile on Jul 4, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sadowski for GM!
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:-(
by Cookyman on Jul 4, 2009 1:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Are we truly carrying thirteen pitchers now? I’ve lost track.
by Evan on Jul 4, 2009 8:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Until Brian Is Able To Trade Sanchez.
Sanchez is the only one with options that might make sense to send down but the Giants believe (correctly in my judgement) that sending him down would make it harder for possible trade partners to scout him since he would not be pitching against MLB competition.
by giantsrainman on Jul 4, 2009 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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