Freddy Sanchez Trade Overflow Thread
by Grant Brisbee on Jul 29, 2009 7:49 PM PDT
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PrintThere's a lot of good discussion/whining going on in the last Freddy Sanchez thread, and I don't want it to blow up my computer every time I open it...
Cliff's Notes version of my reaction for the vultures who want a quick hit of despair: The Giants a better team, and if they make the playoffs by a game or two in the next couple of seasons, it was probably a worthwhile deal, regardless of what Alderson does. But the Giants have trouble scoring runs because they a) don't get on base and b) don't hit for power, and they moved one of their more tradeable assets for a player who doesn't do either a) or b) particularly well.
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Was just about to post this. 2 outs in the ninth? Game tied!
by positiveuphemism on Jul 29, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions
too much
He’s been around way more years than willingham.
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Too much math here,,,
Makes Sabes’ head hurt.
Let’s just go with the “# of gritty highlight catches last year” part.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
If we could get Willingham for the players that we SHOULD have traded for Sanchez, I could just pretend that the trades were flipped.
I choose to watch the Giants try to score runs. Not because it is easy, but because it is hard.
Proven big league hitter > ANY MINOR LEAGUER
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 30, 2009 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Although the cardinals are in the wild card race, and the bums are probably out of reach. A dodgers win is probably best for our playoff hopes.
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That’s a straw man argument. Me rooting for one team has no effect on the outcome of another. I root for the Giants. If the Giants can’t get in the playoffs on their own merit, selling my very soul to root for their hated rival shows isn’t going to do shit. If you want to sell your soul go right ahead.
Perhaps an underappreciated consequence of the trade...
Is the fact that Connecticut was left without their starting pitcher tonight. The trade was made official 5 minutes before scheduled first pitch. Tarp was on the field, but it was still a huge surprise.
As a result, there were 4 position players that pitched at least 1/3 of an inning. 2 of them were catchers. And they only lost by 4 runs.
Probably the most surreal night I’ve ever had at a baseball game.
Really a crappy thing to do to the rest of their pitching prospects, presuming they care about any of them.
Let Alderson pitch tonight. Finalize the trade tomorrow morning. Sanchez wasn’t going anywhere.
WilRiv had to be mightily disappointed that in a game where 4 position players pitched, Michael McBryde never toed the rubber.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Does Schmidt go tomorrow for LA?? If he does, he’s on line to face the Giants in game one of the series in SF.
id be watching that game
hoping he would throw the game for us
back in my day we wanted to be like magic larry now these days all you guys talk about is try to be like mike or becoming the next lebanon james
If Sabean is going to pull this crap to improve an 80 win team, why stop now? Can’t we take Rios and his contract from the Jays for someone who isn’t Bumgarner?
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 29, 2009 7:59 PM PDT reply actions
If this team only wins 25 more games that would be a major disappointment.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
So this isn’t an 80 win team? I’m confuzzled.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
It is an 80 win team. Inconsistent rotation and no offense isn’t going to get it done.
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 29, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions
So it wouldn’t be a major disappointment?
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
It is always a disappointment when they lose, Cheno. I like the Giants. I want them to win. hey are not going to with the way this team is built right now. That is disappointing. Trading away pieces of this team’s future to fix this collection of suck is even more disappointing.
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 29, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, I think the Giants need rotation help. The myth of the Giants deep pitching depth needs to die already. Johnson isn’t going to pitch again and the dreck they are bringing at #5 isn’t going to win them the wildcard.
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 29, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I pretty much agree with this. For the team to make a run this year (not even talking about the future) either Zito or Durty needs to step up and stay consistent. We’ve got two studs, but two studs and a pile of nuthin’ plus a mediocre offense doesn’t make a playoff team. Two studs plus a solid third guy? Now… maybe.
I’m hopeful that the Ryan Sadowski experiment may end soon. Frankly, I don’t understand why it hasn’t already. How’s Joey Martinez’s rehab been going? Is there any chance he could take that spot in the rotation? I’d feel much more optimistic about putting together a decent rotation with him as the fifth guy as opposed to the Duderino.
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by Smoke on the Water on Jul 29, 2009 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Friday night’s game will NOT be pretty. Sadowski vs. the Phillies AND the possibility of Cliff Lee starting.
I like the idea of Martinez as our 5th starter
a GB pitcher that actually gets ground balls!? WOW!!!
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by Giant among Angels on Jul 29, 2009 8:00 PM PDT reply actions
I like how St. Louis booed Manny. I’m glad to see one fan base consistent. They booed Bonds, they boo Manny. San Diego didn’t and NY didn’t.
think they’ll boo Pujols if he ever test positive? I doubt it. Mark McGwire can still run for mayor in that town.
Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!
San Diego didn’t boo bonds?
also:
Mark McGwire can still run for mayor in that town.
True. How’s that for consistency?
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by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Gotcha, wasn’t sure. Is manny getting booed everywhere (but STL & LA)?
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by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions
i was the game he returned.
“SD” didn’t boo manny because out of the 30,000 supposedly there, I shit you not there had to be at least 20,000 dodger fans.
I wish I were kidding. When I saw Manny get his standing ovation in the first, I knew I was leaving by the 5th.
The Game
also, Dodger fan
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by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
That crotch-shadow is fairly disturbing.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions
CB30 != Stephanie McMahon.
Or Chyna, I guess.
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Well, what crotch shadows aren’t disturbing?
by satyricrash on Jul 29, 2009 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions
crotch shadow puppets.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions
crotch shadow dancing.
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Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Jul 30, 2009 3:37 AM PDT up reply actions
You’re not a real fan until you tattoo your team’s logo to your face.
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by Useful_Idiot on Jul 29, 2009 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions
actually no. I wouldn’t call him a pariah, but I’ve lived there recently and there’s a decidedly more negative vibe on him than that. I think they all wish he would come clean, apologize, and talk about his decision to juice— after that, they’d welcome him back with open arms. But until that day comes, he’s basically persona non grata.
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by Smoke on the Water on Jul 29, 2009 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Isn’t he a “consultant” or something for the Cards?
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by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions
They don’t boo Franklin.
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by Smoke on the Water on Jul 29, 2009 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Drinking beer on an empty stomach
- First, I really wish that one new guy hadn’t been mean to BaronVCE in the last thread. I don’t mind trading Alderson.
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- I think Freddy Sanchez is a good trade target. Alderson is too high of a price to pay, especially when combined with the Scott Barnes trade earlier. If the team was willing to trade Alderson, we should have gotten something better or just done nothing at all.
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- I’ll be rooting like hell for the team to win some games and make me feel better about all this. I just explained the trade to my 12-year-old son. He nodded, then started talking about how he watched Mrs. Doubtfire this afternoon.
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+1
Ok. Do it. But just explain it afterwards
I’m sorry for screwing up the comment. I had used double-hyphens instead of long dashes. That’s probably the problem. I hate myself.
I got a kick out of imagining you changing your mind: “No, wait, actually I’m okay with that guy being a dick to BaronVCE!”
Dan from NM is next on my list
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 29, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
A couple questions
1. What list?
2. Am I on the list?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
If you're an L7 fan
you know the list.
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by victor frankenstein on Jul 30, 2009 3:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Lighten up guy.
Mrs Doubtfire is hella good.
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by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Am I completely off base or does this trade remind you guys of Shea Hillenbrand. Giants in contention. One or two bats away. Sign the “missing” infielder. KAABLOOEY
Was the Hillenbrand trade really that bad?
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Accardo WAS good though. Injuries really took their toll, but if they hadn’t he very well could be the Giants closer right now. I look at it more as Sabean got lucky it wasn’t a bad trade— he should’ve known that Hillenbrand wasn’t the answer and he couldn’t have possibly known that Accardo was destined to flame out.
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by Smoke on the Water on Jul 29, 2009 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions
The Giants got Hillenbrand for free, or for the differential between the value of Accardo and that of Chulk. That is, the cost of Hillenbrand was the VORP of Accardo minus the VORP of Chulk. Hillenbrand at the time was hitting about .300 in the American League, and he could play first or third. This acquisition by the Giants didn’t work out, but it was extremely rational.
I don't think that's quite fair
You can argue that this team is not a legitimate contender (and I would agree) but this team is 9 games above .500 and leading the Wild Card. The team that traded for Hillenbrand was 4 games over .500 and pretty clearly not going anywhere. Also, Sanchez is (for all intents and purposes) signed for next year too
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 29, 2009 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the Garko and Sanchez trades indicate that Rios is probably not the type of acquisition we’re after.
Payroll flexibility is key after the Zito debacle.
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Jul 29, 2009 8:03 PM PDT reply actions
I DID MY JOB
To think that we got two players of this caliber for two Minor League pitchers — albeit they’re probably going to pitch in the big leagues — we’re very fortunate
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by Giant among Angels on Jul 29, 2009 8:03 PM PDT reply actions
He's out of his fucking mind
Cochran on SI.com has an article posted about how they could have gotten so much MORE for those two chips, and our asshat of a GM is patting himself on the back for getting Sanchez and Garko for our #2 and 3 pitching prospects? Did he say that with a straight face?
by FireBrianSabean on Jul 29, 2009 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions
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- ogc
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OGC would require a whole new thread.
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TAGSNG?
Molina's gonna test his arm...
by Victorious Secret on Jul 29, 2009 8:20 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
He would just make a fanpost about the big trade news and be shocked when we talked about something else.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
I’m guessing obsessivegiantscompulsive.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 29, 2009 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Here you go
OGC hates the Garko trade because it means less playing time for International Playboy Superstar Travis Ishikawa, and he loves the Freddy Sanchez deal because Alderson was picked near the end of the first round of the draft and therefore has a 10% chance of being a major league pitcher.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
but he was picked by the Giants
therefore his chance of being awesome increases by 50%
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I enjoy reading his blog once in a while
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by Giant among Angels on Jul 29, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions
the last time I read it he was talking about Angel Villalona moving back to 3B
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 29, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I want to hear from OGC, too. He’s largely been pro-Sabean for a long time and I want to see his reaction to this horrific trade.
OGC has been very silent about this trade. He has been very pro-Sabean in his posts.
Perhaps he has come to the realization that our GM is a complete asshat.
Why isn't Sabean held accountable for leading the Giants into many years of mediocrity???
Pro-Sabean, but also adamant about sticking the plan and not sacrificing our future in an ill-advised attempt to win now with a mediocre team. WHICH OGC WILL TRIUMPH?
adamant about sticking the plan and not sacrificing our future in an ill-advised attempt to win now with a mediocre team.
Does this mean I’m in the OGC camp? Not sure how I feel about that…
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 30, 2009 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Anyone notice this?
Starting at 2B for the Rangers:
Omar Vizquel
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Kinsler’s injured.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 29, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, it’s day-to-day, but, yeah. Kinsler has a hamstring problem, I believe.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 29, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Had to look this up
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/v/vizquom01-field.shtml
Omar played 2B in 91 for Seattle for an inning and RF for the Tribe in 99 LOL
Didn’t realize that he was doing 3B duty for TX too?
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by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Tall task for Sanchez..
He’s going to have to hit .400 to erase this pain.
It occurs to me that it’s not because of the Young Guys that the Giants are losing. It’s not the Ishikawas and Schierholtzs and Sandovals that are making the Giants so bad. It’s the veterans on the team that stink. But, who is being replaced by these trades?
I think the Giants rebuilding just went down the toilet for another couple years and we are now back to overpaid over-the-hill veterans.
Do not meddle in the affairs of GM's, for they are subtle and quick to anger.
yeah i kind of agree. the veterans on this team are having some of the worst years of their respective careers.
No one here gets out alive.
And the one vet who’s having a good year is injured. :(
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Oh, and we’re 2-0 with Garko. More success.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Had some more time to soak this in
A couple more thoughts.
1. We were ready to trade Jonathan Sanchez for Freddy Sanchez a few weeks ago. Then Randy Johnson injury happened. Jonathan Sanchez was no longer available.
2. Will Tim Alderson ever been as good (or better) than Jonathan Sanchez? I don’t know. They are the polar opposites of each other. High upside hard throwing lefty vs crafty right handed breaking ball pitcher. I know Alderson’s biggest assett is “advanced feel for the game”, and as a prospect, that means your ceiling is limited and that assett becomes less and less attractive the higher up you go in development. My gut tells me if I were forced to choose between those 2, I’d rather keep Jonathan Sanchez. I cannot think of 10 left handed pitchers in the MLB that throws 97 MPH.
3. So there it is. Giants brass decided to keep the higher upside player that is ready right now. When I think of it in those terms, it doesn’t hurt as much. Well, it still hurts, but not as much.
Please, Jonathan Sanchez, make us look good.
I don’t think it’s all that close between JSanchez and Alderson. Dirty is a solid #4 starter right now, with a chance to be much better; Alderson aspires to be a #4 starter in the future.
Doesn’t it kind of depend on how you look at it. Before the No-Hitter and Unit’s injuy, Dirty was on his way to AAA. Teams knew that and might have agreed. Sanchez could have been considered a bust. But Alderson was a highly-rated young arm who has a chance to be great. I think it sort of depends on who was the party asking for Sanchez/Alderson.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jul 29, 2009 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions
at a minimum, Sanchez was going to be a great bullpen arm, and at his maximum, he has #2 starter type of stuff.
I don’t even know what Alderson’s minimum is. But I know his maximum ain’t #2 starter. At least, I don’t think so. Maybe he is Greg Maddux
Sanchez has a much higher upside than Alderson
Lefties with his type of stuff are not a dime a dozen. Alderson is a righty with soft stuff. Sure, he has the potential to add more velocity but that’s a lot to bank on.
which is kinda my point. If we were all ready to trade Sanchez for Sanchez a few weeks ago, why are we so down on Alderson for Freddy? Is it because we THINK we could have gotten more for Tim?
I am upset that Sabean couldn’t capitalize more on Tim’s reputation to get us more in return, but I also think we should step back a little bit and think of the possibility that Sabean just traded less than what we considered acceptable for the same commodity.
I really think this is a fair trade all things considered.
It just seems that people were expecting a fleecing due to the Pirate’s excessive payroll dumping. But in response to that I’d say:
1. Neal Huntington is not your run of the mill Pirates GeneraLOL Manager. He seems to be halfway competent.
2. I’m not sure if the Pirates would have traded Sanchez if they didn’t get a fair value back. Thing is no one knows except for the Pirate’s FO how much money they have to play with.
I just wished that they had kicked over some money.
by RougeGorrila on Jul 29, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Also I didn’t realize how bad Alderson’s stats were for July. Five walks and nine Ks in 23 innings? Yuck. The trade is still going to keep me up at night, but I made a face when I saw the stats.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 29, 2009 8:19 PM PDT reply actions
Most prospect analysts had a ceiling for him at a 3 or 4 starter, with the ceiling going down with his K rate. That’s not exactly a great best-case scenario. Also, TINSTAAPP. I’m just thinking that other teams didn’t think highly of alderson and this really mght have been the best thing we could have gotten for him.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
I’m stumbling toward the realization that the last sentence is true. I would be gloriously happy to be wrong about the gloom and doom I spewed before. I dunno. Maybe I’m just cycling through the five stages of grief.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 29, 2009 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions
obviously nobody thinks as highly of Alderson (or any other Giants prospect) as Giants fans do
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 29, 2009 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember listening to Tom Tolbert on KNBR (tolerable because there was no Ralph). One of his friends is a scout for the Rangers. His friend said Alderson is a back of the rotation pitcher but said MadBum is a #1.
and Keving Goldstein said that some nameless scout told him that Alderson is a back of the rotation starter!
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 29, 2009 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Wasn't Alderson
rated as a 26th overall prospect in baseball, or is the Damnation Ale doing it’s job?
So
you’re saying yes? jk. Ok, so still top-50. For Freddy Sanchez?
DAMNIT!!!
Same here.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 29, 2009 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions
yep
Baseball stuff aside, he’s a good guy. Smart and sharp. He was one of the best interviews I’ve ever done. I hope he does well.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 29, 2009 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyone else feel like
This Phillies series is going to be important?
If we can prove this week that we can roll with the best, maybe giving up some minor talent for a shot at the playoffs and beyond wasn’t such a terrible idea.
I choose to watch the Giants try to score runs. Not because it is easy, but because it is hard.
It’s gonna be August. All series are important.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
poor word choice
not “important”, but “illustrative”.
I choose to watch the Giants try to score runs. Not because it is easy, but because it is hard.
“Wake up call”
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by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Hopefully not
but a distinct possibility.
I choose to watch the Giants try to score runs. Not because it is easy, but because it is hard.
I’ll take back to back homers.
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Ryan Franklin is worthless.
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No one wants to hear it
I think it’s a fallacy to assume that Alderson was a premier trade chip. How do we know that Sanchez wasn’t about as good as we could get? How many of us have watched Alderson pitch in AA? No one wants to hear it, but the organization knows more about Alderson that we do.
stop it, you’re making too much sense
by sliderinthedirt on Jul 29, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Even if this is true, it’s understandable that people are discouraged. We all wear the rose colored glasses for Giants prospects— it’s uncomfortable to learn that either a) our GM is (still) dumb, trading good young players for “veteran savvy” or b) one of our “top four” prospects isn’t quite as good as we’d all assumed. Either way, today is a bit of a sobering wake up call.
On the bright side, with under two days to go before the deadline passes, Sabes probably doesn’t have time left to trade away all three of MadBum, Posey, AND Neal.
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by Smoke on the Water on Jul 29, 2009 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Guys, I’m beginning to think Pujols might not be it.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Luis Pujols? Yeah he wasn’t so great.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 29, 2009 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions
the good news is, a guy with a 7.68 era shutout the phillies for 6 innings.
by HOLDEMUPwuzzBANNED on Jul 29, 2009 8:35 PM PDT reply actions
STILL Batting cleanup: Bengie Molina
Sabean’s pathetically poor analysis of hitting has struck again. On a team that:
- is next-to-last in the NL in OBP
- is next-to-last in the NL in SLG
- is next-to-last in the NL in OPS
- is next-to-last in the NL in HRs
- is next-to-last in the NL in Runs Scored
- has Bengie Molina batting cleanup…
…Brian Sabean targets (and trades one of our top trade commodities for) …(wait for it)… a fair-to-middling #2 hitter? Freddy Sanchez will not bring significant help in any of the above categories. In five full seasons, Sanchez has OPSed over .800 one time. Even with that one season, Sanchez’ career OPS and OPS+ are just .756 and 98, respectively. Not very impressive, and definitely not the kind of hitter the Giants needed to really do some damage in the postseason (if they even make it that far). Furthermore, Sanchez, who has about 3/4 of his career at bats against RHP, has career splits of .711 OPS and 88 OPS+ vs. RHP.
The Giants are desperately in need of power hitting, and for the life of him, Brian Sabean simply is unable to figure this out. Unfortunately, Sabean LO-O-O-OVES intangibles, and the only hitting tangible he seems to go for is batting average. Furthermore, he seems to ALWAYS evaluate players based on their best (usually outlier) season. When Sabean looks at a guy like Sanchez, he’ll ALWAYS see a .344 hitting batting champ. And he paid the going rate for that type of hitter. Yes, no one knows how Alderson will pan out, but I can’t believe he had this low of trade value. I can’t believe that all Alderson could bring us was an overpaid, non-power hitting, non-difference-making, injured second baseman.
I’ve been pining for Sabean to be removed for five years now. I fear it will never happen. Nor will winning a World Series, as long as Sabean is around.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
LOL MANNY!!
(I don’t know what’s going on)
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LOL MANNY
I don’t need a reason to laugh at Manny Ramirez.
Also, suck it Russell J Martin.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 29, 2009 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
rec'd
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 29, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
fffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucckkkk
LOL
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
SUCK IT RUSSELL LOS ANGELOS DODGERS MARTIN
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ESPN thinks he could start tomorrow fwiw.
by RougeGorrila on Jul 29, 2009 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
One is going to need to become Dirty while the other becomes Filthy. Not sure which is which though…
Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 30, 2009 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I changed my fantasy team name to the Dirty Sanchezes to honor Jonathan’s no-hitter. Now we have two. What do we do?
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 30, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
The Bochy method
Sanchy 1 and Sanchy 2
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by rightcenterfielder on Jul 29, 2009 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Go team that is playing the Dodgers!
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by rightcenterfielder on Jul 29, 2009 8:41 PM PDT reply actions
i live in LA and can't watch the game
because Time Warner Cable sucks almost as much as the dodgers.
almost.
Dodgers fans eat their young.
Thanks to the DVR machine
I’m watching Sanchez’s agent, Paul Cobbe, on Chronicle Live (wearing jeans and a t-shirt, yelch).
Is it just me, or are we not worried enough about Sanchez’s knee? Please observe the following, and I quote:
PAPA: So it’s a sprained medial collateral ligament. It’s not torn, partially torn. It’s just right now sprained.
COBBE: I don’t think it’s torn, no.
PAPA: Now if it was partially torn, or torn, he could be out 2 to 4 weeks.
COBBE: Well, that’s one of those tough things. Because it’s like talking about a pitcher’s shoulder, “Is it torn?” I think all of us have little tears. I think the point being that it was a non-invasive-necessary problem with his knee. Meaning, no surgery is necessary to fix this.
/Patton-Oswalt-‘GYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!’
WFT IS THIS S?
Those “non-invasive-necessary problems” are my favorite.
The views expressed in this post do not represent the views of the San Francisco Chronicle. Or Ray RattLoL
Matt Cain: Duck and Cover
the Giants doctors looked at Frandsen more than once
I realize do it yourself GMing is what sites like this are all about, but let’s take it easy on the do it yourself medical practice
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 29, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Geographic: In St Louis
Television: Extra Innings (in the bay area)
Situation: top of the 12th
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 29, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Ethier is evil
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Jul 29, 2009 8:46 PM PDT reply actions
I’m glad I have MLB Extra Innings so I could watch out of town games.
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Fresno update
Joey Martinez went seven innings with two runs (zero ernies) and six Ks, no walks.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 29, 2009 8:48 PM PDT reply actions
Is he ready to be the fifth starter, in your no-quotation-necessary professional opinion?
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
our other option?
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Also, Tim Lincecum
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I think he’s made it back from nearly being brained.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 29, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
If?
Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 30, 2009 12:57 AM PDT up reply actions
When ?
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Man, that means he can’t start on Friday in SF. :(
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YEAH JOEY
Thanks for the update, Baron. I’d been wondering what was going on with my fellow Eagle.
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When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Awesome.
emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 29, 2009 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions
steaming the pickle
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by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions
The Cardinals have a lot of ugly beards.
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Ankiel’s porn stache was awesome.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
At the end of the day, it still comes down to this:
they needed to net a 2B no matter what. They did, but they overpaid (once again) to get an injured player, after the same Giants’ medical staff that botched Noah Lowry cleared Sanchez. Therefore it’s quite possible they just ditched a future Number 4/5 starter for a damaged 2B.
They still don’t have enough power, so I can only hope they make a move after 8/1 through someone else’s waiver move. Because if this is the team that is scrapping for runs on 8/15 with a damaged 2B, then Sabean blew this one bad enough to be fired.
Responsible for the last great homegrown Giants team.
My counter to Grant's argument
OK, I get Grant’s points, but am ok with this trade for the following reasons. Here are my thoughts on why I’m reluctantly ok with parting Alderson:
- Sanchez makes the team better offensively and defensively at a position where we had nuthin’ and nuthin’ in the pipeline for at least this year and next. If you think Frandsen, Burriss, Downs or Velez were going to be the answer this year or next, I guess we’ll agree to disagree. Those that argue that Frandsen never got a chance have an argument, but as I’ve said before, he’s always screamed “utility infielder” when I’ve seen him play.
- Adding Sanchez has a ripple effect #1. He moves Uribe out of the starting lineup lets him backup 2B, SS and 3B. Uribe in this role actually has value.
- Adding Sanchez has a ripple effect #2. Renteria moves can move down in the order, where his lack of offense wouldn’t screw things up so much in the 8-hole. With Sanchez hitting #2, our 3-4-5 hitters are more likely to come up with people on base/scoring position.
- It makes the Garko deal mean more. The Sanchez or Garko by themselves mean far less than they mean taken as a whole. Together, they upgrade two positions that have underperformed, and they upgrade is good through next year.
- We’re in this thing! Even after the bad start to the second half, the team is leading the Wild Card race. Everyone on earth knows if we don’t make it, it’ll be because there wasn’t enough offense. the opportunity to make the post-season is one no team in the Giants’ position should take lightly. If the opportunity for fabulous riches arises if you can get to a certain city by a certain time, you go for it, even if the airline tickets aren’t on sale.
- Did we really overpay? Many people here think we did, but there were a lot of doubts abut how good Alderson really is. I respect BruteSentiment’s opinion and he thought Alderson might have been overrated. If Brute thought that, believing other GMs agreed isn’t really a stretch. And after all TINSTAAP.
- Was Alderson really a “top 5” prospect? With Madum, Buster, Anvil, Neal and Wheeler, I think you’ve got a strong core of guys that are more or less “untouchable”. That kind of depth makes Alderson “touchable”. Sure it would have been nice to get more, but it was pretty obvious we were desperate for help at 2B.
- We still have pitching depth. I’ve been saying that with current starters, we’re in good shape if we can bring up a new starter each year. With Pucetas, Madbum, Sadler and Wheeler, we have a good pipeline to keep feeding the big team for the next couple of years. When Sabean’s always drafting pitchers, we always say "Maybe he can turn some of it into big league hitters. Snark aside, he just added two guys that are now among the top 4 hitters on our team.
Like I said, I think Alderson was a still price to pay, but not ridiculously so. We have an unexpected opportunity to contend for the post-season now and Sabean has made moves that give us a better chance. I see the logic.
My real complaint will be if Molina continues to hit #4. These trades allow Bochy to assemble something resembling a big-leage lineup when everyone’s healthy:
LF – Winn
2B – Sanchez
3B – Sandoval
1B – Garko
CF – Rowand
C – Molina
RF – Schierholtz
SS – Renteria
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by Goofus on Jul 29, 2009 8:50 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
/thought this was OGC.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
:-)
Everyone once in a while, I come out of my ADD fog long enough to string a couple paragraphs together.
My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman
you make some good points
but I dont think Wheeler has signed yet, has he?
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Also, Tim Lincecum
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
No, but I’m really doubting we’ll punt that pick, so I’m calling him our prospects since we have the rights to him
My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman
He’s got two weeks to sign. I’m really hoping we can get him inked.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Isn’t it pretty uncommon for a high draft pick to sign before the deadline?
by BleedBlackNOrange on Jul 29, 2009 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, few sign substantially before the deadline in the manner of T Sanchez or Storen. Most of the first rounders will sign in the week before the deadline.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Posey signed like 2 minutes before the deadline
Bumgarner signed on the deadline day too, i think
Part of it is brinksmanship part of it is the players/agents wanting to see if anyone goes above slot so that they can follow suit.
by RougeGorrila on Jul 29, 2009 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I bet this is one of those situations where the team and player have agreed to a deal and MLB is making them wait to announce it because it is over slot (a stupid MLB practice that really should stop). I would be astonished if Wheeler doesn’t sign.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 29, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
god we can only hope bengie "black hole" molina gets moved down in the order...
by HOLDEMUPwuzzBANNED on Jul 29, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions
probraly will
back in my day we wanted to be like magic larry now these days all you guys talk about is try to be like mike or becoming the next lebanon james
Never
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by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I feel better about this deal now that it has been explained to me this way. Though I wasn’t in the camp of people that were furious that Alderson was dealt.
by BleedBlackNOrange on Jul 29, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions
+1
And I really hope that Molina gets moved back.
I like the lineup. I’d like it more if Lewis replaces Winn.
by RougeGorrila on Jul 29, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Lewis could replace Winn next year if they don’t get another OF.
My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman
Yeah
I’ve nothing against Winn and I like his purdy defense but I don’t think he’s got much thunder left in his bat.
by RougeGorrila on Jul 29, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Bochy will never EVER move Bengie from the 4 spot.
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 29, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions
FIND A WAY BOCH!!!
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 30, 2009 1:04 AM PDT up reply actions
I saw a guy at the game last night in 325 that I thought was you. I almost yelled GOOFUS! but thought better of it.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Nope
I just got back from Phoenix on business
SAW PEDRO FELIZ AT THE PHOENIX AIRPORT!!!! I would have said hi, but he was on his phone and I didn’t want to be an ass. I was also with a real bigwig in my company and didn’t want to look like an idiot in her eyes. (But I did feel the need to point out to her that it was Pedro Feliz!)
My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman
You were at the airport
Pedro was at the airport
You are Pedro
We are all Pedro Feliz
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 29, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions
nah, just the sliders
I wanted to adopt, but all the good looking babies were taken
by joeytothelimit on Jul 29, 2009 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I have my doubts that Bochy would put Molina somewhere besides the cleanup spot.
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I tend to agree but I have to think he’ll come to terms with reality sometime. I mean… come on.
Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list, tearing up Scottsdale, and has been alive long enough to see the Warriors make the playoffs once.
by BrianBokake on Jul 30, 2009 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Also
I’d like to petition for a Big 3 of Posey, Bumgarner, and neal. Times to get with the times people!
by RougeGorrila on Jul 29, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s my big 3 as well.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Agreed
I just logged on here to see what people were saying, feeling pretty ok about the deal, and posting as much on the Yahoo! article about the trade, and was surprised to see so much anger. I think this, combined with Garko (a first baseman who can actually hit on the road) significantly improves our lineup 1-9, and places an All-Star in a position currently occupied by a black hole. The cost? Two solid, but not great, pitching prospects. Not too bad, IMO.
I think the thing that kills me is how little was given up for Felipe Lopez – a player that has similar value to Sanchez but just 20 pts less of batting average.
I also don’t think we have pitching depth. Pucetas and especially Sadler should not be counted as depth.
Other than that, you make some good points.
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
Pitching Depth
With Tim, Cain, Sanchez and Zito, there aren’t likely to be that many spots in the rotation opening up over the next three years. How much depth do we need?
My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman
I think there is a difference between having guys to pitch in those spots vs. having pitching depth. If you have a team that doesn’t score a bunch of runs, you can’t live with a 3 and 4 that can put you in the hole before you even get an at bat. Zito and Sanchez can (and have) done that.
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 29, 2009 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
So when was Alderson going to take the #3 spot in the rotation and push back Sanchez and Zito?
My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman
I am not sure you are being serious. Are you really implying that I thought that Alderson was going to step into the rotation immediately? If so, that certainly wasn’t my point.
All I am saying is that we need pitching help this season. The rotation has 2 guys that will keep you in the game and 3 that are a crap shoot. If we are going to start shipping out prospects, spend where it will make a difference: the rotation.
This “pitching depth” myth really needs to die. The Giants do not have pitching depth.
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 29, 2009 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Because Freddy Sanchez won’t make much of a difference from our other 2B.
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by Useful_Idiot on Jul 29, 2009 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Here’s an example of just how much better Freddy Sanchez is:
If we’d had Sanchez all year we’d be 3 wins better, be 15 games over .500, be 4 back of the Dodgers and 3.5 games up on the wild card.
I know that’s an oversimplification & isn’t necessarily true, but it’s a good illustration of how much of an improvement he is.
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They have enough depth at A and AA that they could deal some of it to improve their offense at a time when they’re actually in position to grab a playoff spot.
My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman
The rotation as it stands today will not get them to the playoffs. If the Giants want to believe they are in a position to go for it this year, then go for it. If you are going to start dismantling your farm system in an (imo, ill advised) effort to win the wildcard use those assets for real improvement.
The whole reason the Giants are in the position they are right now is their pitching staff. When a major piece of that is lost and you do nothing to address the issue, the concept of “going for it” this season is pointless.
I understand that the Giants need offense. I’ve been here watching the games with the rest of you mooks. Sanchez and Garko add maybe a win to the bottom line over the rest of this season. The back of the rotation will end up costing the Giants more than that.
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 30, 2009 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Enough to fill out the last spot in the rotation plus whoever gets hurt.
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
Why do you assume Sanchez will be good enough to stick in the rotation?
He’s never shown that.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
I didn’t assume that, but made the point that even if he doesn’t, there aren’t that many spots in the rotation opening up over the next 2 to 3 years.
My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman
If he doesn’t stick in the rotation, that is a spot opened up right there.
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 30, 2009 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Even though the Diamondbacks are way out it, I doubt they wanted to trade Lopez in the division without the Giants giving a lot.
yeah, but the Pirates aren’t in our division. There’s no reason to pay a higher price for same stuff.
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
that’s great for them, but a thing isn’t worth whatever you think it’s worth, it’s worth what you can get for it.
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
So how do you know they could have got more for him.
Joe Nathan aside, how many pitching prospects that Sabean has traded have gone on to greatness?
My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman
When it comes to pitching
I irrationally trust this organization. It’s a disease or something.
by RougeGorrila on Jul 29, 2009 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions
No, that’s true. You don’t really know what other teams thought. There are certainly reasons to be skeptical about Alderson.
I think that anyone who can hold his own in the Cal league at 19 has to be taken seriously. I’d have much rather hung on to him (perhaps to trade later) if his stock was that low at the moment.
And there were other solutions for 2B that need not have cost us a top pitching prospect.
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
I gotta agree with Goofus. I’m not upset with the trade, and think it has some really good upside.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
Sabean’s goal is very clear. He is putting the lineup for 2010 together, with an upside of 2 month rental to get lucky this year.
Look at our lineup in 2010 with Posey stepping in for Molina and Schierholtz full time over Winn. I really think we can contend next year just as well as this year. A huge organization black hole disappeared.
I think the best part is that now Uribe can potentially take a lot of renteria’s playtime at short due to his elbow
some good points
I don’t necessarily agree with all of them, but very well reasoned
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 29, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
There Is No Such Thing As A Poop?
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Rowand is Lord of the Poops.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Do you mean that as in...
“One Poop to Rule Them All” or “Poops to Your Assmar!” or “Michael Pooply”?
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
all of the above
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
It’s an unholy trinity.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I really like your analysis and could not agree more. Good job.
Perhaps Sabes gave up a bit much to get Sanchez ( typical Sabean MO) but it probably wont be equivalent to the Joe Nathan trade. Besides, we have Freddy through 2010 and do not have any viable options at 2b in the minor league system at the moment. This was a move not just for the present year but also for next.
Freddy’s offense may not be the type of bat that carries an offense, but he is a well rounded player who contributes at the plate as well as on defense. Lets just hope he can stay healthy.
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Just another day at the office for Neal
1-2 with an rbi so far. Also, Kieschnick hit his 21st dinger
With Malice Towards Maria Shriver
So NYM-COL rained out
We’re in the wild-card lead! Wooh?!?
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
LOL MANNY!!!!!!!
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by rightcenterfielder on Jul 29, 2009 8:58 PM PDT reply actions
Afterthought
Can’t wait for AsFan4ever69 to show up and razz everyone for the Sanchez thing.
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Splash hits into the AYCE section
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by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions
TARP HITS
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Jul 29, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Thankfully I missed that
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by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions
watching this game on the iphone
cause its one of the free games for the mlbatbat app
SIgn Many Bats!
Just wondering. Would you say the mlbatbat app worth $9.99?
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 29, 2009 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I love to see the cooling down process on this trade from beginning to end.
/waits for bondslegend
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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for those who dont have it
by HOLDEMUPwuzzBANNED on Jul 29, 2009 9:00 PM PDT reply actions
sweet
thanks… between time warner cable being out and mlb.tv with the black-out i couldn’t watch this eventual dodgers fail.
Dodgers fans eat their young.
Wanna get in a quick hacky sack sesh, bro?
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by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions
NeifiChicken is watching this AB closely.
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What the hell happened, gameday is freaking out?
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
Thurston didn’t touch first base and they appealed and he was call out.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Cardinals are worthless.
Bowkermania has been put on hiatus for retooling.
by rightcenterfielder on Jul 29, 2009 9:06 PM PDT reply actions
Each mole has it’s own personality
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 29, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
The pirates have a mole in our organization!!
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by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
WHile he is sleeping, his moles tell him to kill
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 29, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I wonder if the trainers checked those out too?
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by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
His moles steal Sanchez’s debit card and empty his bank account
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 29, 2009 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
SUCK IT RUSSEL MARTIN
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 29, 2009 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Dodgers better not need their bullpen much tomorrow
Cause they sure as hell will need it Friday when Schmidt is starting
With Malice Towards Maria Shriver
Ok, so why does Russell Martin have the J. initial on his jersey?
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
J is for jackass
But no, its for his mom
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
I’ve never seen that done before.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
The two comments are seperate entities
The first was just a joke
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
Ryan Rowland-Smith looks like Noah from heroes.
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
After reading the above post quoting Sanchez' agent
about the condition of his knee, and also noticing that Frandsen left the Fresno game after 2 ab’s, it’s not possible that ass clown GM traded for a guy about to go on the DL…is it? I believe tomorrow would be Frandsen’s 10th day away, so he could come back. Only with Sabean would I consider such a scenario
Frandsen is done as a Giant
he is our Travis Buck. He pissed off somebody in the front office and will never see the light of day ever again with the Giants.
If Sanchez goes on the DL, the 10-day thing doesn’t matter and Frandsen can be called up.
Of course, if Sanchez goes on the DL, we’ll probably just stick with the current roster.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
With Schierholtz out, we need the extra outfielder until Rowand can throw again. We don’t need three first basemen.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
CHARLIE MANUEL DISAGREES WITH YOUR ASSESSMENT
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according to NOTBaggz
If Sanchez is out, it’l be 2-3 days at the most
You need this:
http://www.ez-stairs.com/william_shatner_demos_ezstairs.html
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Hi, I had a lot of wine and I’m now working on a beer and I still don’t like the trade.
:)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
beer after wine... things'll be fine.
follow with liquor… dodgers will lose.
Dodgers fans eat their young.
you know, i’ve heard that rhyme a million times. including
wine then beer, you’ll feel queer or something like that.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Beer before liquor, you've never bee sicker
Liquor before beer, you’re in the clear
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
well, no liquor tonight so i guess i’m ok
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
And sometimes it’s just “liquor? oomph”. Those are bad nights.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I used to call them Zito nights.
now I might call them SADowski nights.
by RougeGorrila on Jul 29, 2009 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I can haz Mark DeRosa walk off?
Judgment Day has been indefinitely postponed. :(
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re: Sanchez
I feel like once he finally plays, after his first gapper he hits I know that I will feel much calmer about this trade
With Malice Towards Maria Shriver
The trouble is
his name’s not nearly as fun as Garko’s
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
i will be photoshopping
dirty sanchez’s on as many pitchers as I can who Sanchez gets hits off of though
With Malice Towards Maria Shriver
nooooooo holliday
time for another 5 innings
Off Topic
i’m moving to new york on monday and am checking out the giants/mets game in a few weeks.. anyone been to citi field yet? any experience with mets fans?
Dodgers fans eat their young.
If Alderson continues to strike out 5.5 per 9 for the Altoona Curves I’ll feel better about this
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
if it makes you feel better
Barnes was kinda “meh” in his debut
Seriously, there’s gotta be something method in his head. Maybe he sees him as a second clean-up hitter?
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
I'll admit to not hating Kemp.
But it makes me feel dirty.
by RougeGorrila on Jul 29, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I think we had a mass confession a few weeks ago where a lot of us admitted to liking Matt Kemp.
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
but but but speedy CFs who hit well!
Giant fans are surely predisposed to like those.
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
Fat catchers are also in vogue.
Just imagine— a lineup of only fat catchers and speedy outfielders. The movie writes itself.
by RougeGorrila on Jul 29, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Have you been to AT&T to see it yet?
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I missed that.
glad I was dialed into the groupthink though
by RougeGorrila on Jul 29, 2009 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
BUT HE TOOK HIS TEAM A HUNDRED STRAIGHT PLAYOFFS
Judgment Day has been indefinitely postponed. :(
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Some positive Giants minor league news
Zack Wheeler has a good chance of becoming something more special than Alderson. Also, Wendell Fairley has been heating up during the past few weeks. Something to monitor for the future.
we can only hope
for the sake of our minor league system.
by HOLDEMUPwuzzBANNED on Jul 29, 2009 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
My guess is that he's done
But that is backed up by nothing
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
I think I’m kinda surprised if NOBODY can be had for the now useless bowker/guzman/frandsen
With Malice Towards Maria Shriver
I highly doubt that Bowker/Jesus/Frandsen was ever enough….when sabean said after the garko trade that he was willing to trade a “certain minor league player” (Alderson) and was waiting for two teams to make a decision…my guess is that it was Pittsburgh with Sanchez and DC with Willingham..
That being said, i wouldn’t be surpised if Sabean tries to get a 5th starter type..
I really hope that’s not true, because Willingham would have helped a lot more than Sanchez will. Why not wait until an hour before the deadline before pulling the trigger on Sanchez if you think there’s a chance for Willingham? Only if you prefer Sanchez, which would be, um, unwise.
I strongly suspect the Nationals decided that Alderson wouldn’t have been enough for any of their prized possessions, since the Red Sox had tried for Dunn earlier this year and were moderately shocked at just how stupid the demands were.
I think that’s probably right, but why wouldn’t you wait them out until an hour before the deadline? When they realize no one is meeting their price, they might come to their senses. It’s not like Pittsburgh had a ton of offers for Sanchez on the table.
I think my favorite overreaction to this trade but “but Velez is starting to hit!!!”
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Apparently, that is what Wo said.
emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 29, 2009 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
That you, Wo?
emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 29, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2009/7/29/968331/freddy-sanchez-traded-to-the-giants#18904737
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
bradleybear said something similar.
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How is everyone watching this game? Does EI still have the free demo going?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Jul 29, 2009 9:40 PM PDT reply actions
I don’t think the preview is still on. I paid for it.
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 29, 2009 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
ah, ok just curious. I love my EI, the wife still doesn’t know I bought it….
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Jul 29, 2009 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Hm
Some say Cliff Lee could actually start on Saturday, which would mean the battle of the 2008 Cy Young Award winners.
we have so many weapons vs LHP now though that I’m not even worried
With Malice Towards Maria Shriver
Why would you want that?
Have you watched this team? Moyer is guaranteed to shut them down on 60 pitches over eight innings.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
Giants can’t hit slow any pitching
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
i wish there was a way to find out if alderson could have brought us dan uggla. or SOMEBODY to hit 4th besides bengie
by sadison bummedgarner on Jul 29, 2009 9:40 PM PDT reply actions
I’m almost certain that if Uggla could have been had for Alderson, Uggla would be a Giant.
Original member of the Van Buren Boys
by NuschlerFace on Jul 29, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Sabean loves Batting average, something Uggla doesnt have. Im not so sure
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
The Giants reportedly had great interest in Uggla.
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IMO if we make the playoffs, its worth it
by sadison bummedgarner on Jul 29, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Who is this uggla person you keep bringing up?
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
61 games to go, I’d say 35-26 gets these G-men into the playoffs. I forgot what being in a playoff race feels like….
Mo'ped Money, Mo'ped Problems
SUCK IT
emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 29, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions
has he been pitching at all recenty? if so, how well has he done? i am afraid this 5th starter thing will be a big problem the next two months.
No one here gets out alive.
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2009/7/29/968583/freddy-sanchez-trade-overflow#18928353
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Or or or Pucetas... :(
no it’s not
Kevin Pucetas lurks in the shadows, waiting for his time to shine.
by Sammy Danger on Jul 29, 2009 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions
looking at reoccuring theme in the original thread . . .
Why doesn’y anyone understand just how immobile Adam Dunn has gotten?
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
no you dont understand, he made a WEB GEM the other day. best defensive left fielder IMO
by sadison bummedgarner on Jul 29, 2009 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember some old AOL message board that someone kept saying the Giants should sign Frank Thomas to play first even though he is very immobile to do so.
dingerz and rbi
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Well, I think, even among people who somewhat appreciate stats, worrying about defense is somewhat new. So I think people really don’t realize that Dunn’s defense is so bad that it nearly cancels his (admittedly prodigious) offensive output.
Of course at least one of the Dunn supporters was also like OMG RBIz. So… yeah.
I’m loving the way the Dodgers bullpen is getting eaten up. I foresee a losing August for the bums.
by positiveuphemism on Jul 29, 2009 9:51 PM PDT reply actions
I would enjoy seeing a Mets-esque collapse.
Judgment Day has been indefinitely postponed. :(
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So September then?
Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 30, 2009 1:16 AM PDT up reply actions
HAHAHA BRENDAN RYAN IS FASTER THAN MANNY
Kevin Pucetas lurks in the shadows, waiting for his time to shine.
Oh man is peppermint bark evilicious….
Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 30, 2009 1:17 AM PDT up reply actions
THE CRANES IN OAKLAND ARE FASTER THAN MANNY
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it’s a totally run-of-the-mill comment, but’s green now.
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
oh, I know. I just think that’s very indicative of who GRM is.
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
best fans in baseball?
they dont even sound loud
by sadison bummedgarner on Jul 29, 2009 9:55 PM PDT reply actions
They’re a very polite crowd.
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oh damn it
who the fuck do you think you are, Ryan Garko?
because he popped out twice yesterday
Kevin Pucetas lurks in the shadows, waiting for his time to shine.
can you check someones career stats in extra innings. because velez’s got to be really good
by sadison bummedgarner on Jul 29, 2009 9:56 PM PDT reply actions
.887/.887/1.406
Original member of the Van Buren Boys
by NuschlerFace on Jul 29, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions
That one Cardinals lady is way too into a regular season game
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
THEY ARE THE BEST FANZ IN BASEBALL!!! WHUT R U 5???
by satyricrash on Jul 29, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
the cards announcer
almost lost his shit when lugo popped up that 3-0 pitch
Dodgers fans eat their young.
Are the Dodgers aware they have an open base to play with?
Bowkermania has been put on hiatus for retooling.
by rightcenterfielder on Jul 29, 2009 10:01 PM PDT reply actions
Some guy name Poo Hoes is on deck…
Mo'ped Money, Mo'ped Problems
by Scooter Ellis on Jul 29, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
kruk approves
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
exactly
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by rightcenterfielder on Jul 29, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Amazing that we may need a second overflow thread for a trade.
by Orwell D. Catt on Jul 29, 2009 10:01 PM PDT reply actions
we pwn
and thats a fact, Jack
er, Orwell
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
dont worry guys!
pujos/holliday got it
by sadison bummedgarner on Jul 29, 2009 10:02 PM PDT reply actions
My worthless two cents
Ask me in two years. Love having Freddie at second, and have many doubts that Alderson is as good as advertised. Still, it would fit long standing Giant traditions to give away future stars for guys on the downside of their careers. At 31, I’ve got to believe Sanchez has at least a year and a half of quality left in him.
I have to admit, if it had been Posey or Bumgarner, I’d be lighting the torches to storm the Giant’s front office myself. With Alderson, I’ll wait until he is shutting out the major league club before I make a judgement.
wow.
they just want to keep playing later and later.
i have no complaints as long as the cards eventually win
by gswarriors2006 on Jul 29, 2009 10:02 PM PDT reply actions
Russel Martin
0-7
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Also, Tim Lincecum
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 10:04 PM PDT reply actions
If keeping this game going means we can see an 0-8, I’d be all for it.
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by rightcenterfielder on Jul 29, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I am too
my fantasy team isnt
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Didn’t look like it..but no argument from Ryan.
by baybruin415 on Jul 29, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
hm
i want this game to keep going to see martin go like 0-10
by gswarriors2006 on Jul 29, 2009 10:06 PM PDT reply actions
i still can’t believe the giants aren’t even getting any money in the deal
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
theyre not?
what? lame
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Somehow the Giants gave up a good prospect and didn’t even get any cash back. I have no idea.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
3 TIME ALL-STAR!!!
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
The reports were that if the Pirates contributed money, the prospect would have been of higher quality. If true, I’m mortified to think of what Sabean would have been willing to include if the Pirates did pick up part of the tab.
I had figured that giving up a prospect of Alderson’s caliber = Pirates kick in a significant amount of money
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Unless nobody thinks Alderson is a high-caliber prospect.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
It’s possible but I still think we could have gotten more for him than this
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Sabean probably thinks very little of Alderson or thinks he has better pitchers than him. So he is low on Sabean’s depth chart.
That or Sabean is an idiot.
I am trying not to think about the damn trade. It just makes me angry.
Prospective parent of new pick, Zack Wheeler. Projectable Righty stolen from the braves. Of course, I stalk my son's myspace: http://www.myspace.com/zackwheelerbaseball
"Obviously I’m not doing things like going toe-to-toe with a ninja. Find me a ninja, for one."--Brian Wilson
by haverecords on Jul 29, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
FINALLY
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by rightcenterfielder on Jul 29, 2009 10:08 PM PDT reply actions
i don't get it either
it’s not like it was less than 2 outs
To possibly throw the guy at 2nd out should there be a base hit to the OF…
Mo'ped Money, Mo'ped Problems
by Scooter Ellis on Jul 29, 2009 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
SUCK IT MATT KEMP!
SUCK IT RUSSEL MARTIN! 7 GAMES BACK!
by sadison bummedgarner on Jul 29, 2009 10:08 PM PDT reply actions
suddenly we’re only seven back.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Suck it, Rockies!
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by rightcenterfielder on Jul 29, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
if this godawful offense can show up
and even gain TWO, just TWO games in the next two weeks, the series against LA on august 10th might determine whether the NL West is even a race at this point.
YEAH TEAM THAT BEAT THE DODGERS!
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by rightcenterfielder on Jul 29, 2009 10:09 PM PDT reply actions
didnt even have to use my ak
SIgn Many Bats!
by ringleader3 on Jul 29, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I forget
Did anything memorable happen today?
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by rightcenterfielder on Jul 29, 2009 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
honestly if we win the nl west, all is forgiven.
i don’t think it’ll happen but on the offchance that it does…
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
YEAH!!!
7 BACK!!!!! BEAT LA!!! BEAT LA!!!
F YOU SCHMIDT, BLAKE, TORRE, TRONCOSO, BROXTON, AUSMUS and LASORDA!!!
martin sucks it, member?
SIgn Many Bats!
by ringleader3 on Jul 29, 2009 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
espn's top performer of the day
mr. cain, with an 83.00 score. and the dodgers lost.
Dodgers fans eat their young.
just noticed lol signature on you
SIgn Many Bats!
by ringleader3 on Jul 29, 2009 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Considering we’ve played 6 in LA, and the horrible road trip we had early in the season, a 4-5 record vs. the Dodgers so far is ok
SUCK IT RUSSEL MARTIN
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Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 29, 2009 10:13 PM PDT reply actions
So how does this whole adoption thing work for Sanchez?
by BleedBlackNOrange on Jul 29, 2009 10:15 PM PDT reply actions
how does the whoel adoption thing work in general
SIgn Many Bats!
by ringleader3 on Jul 29, 2009 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Ok that’s what I thought, and then after Natto is it first come first serve?
by BleedBlackNOrange on Jul 29, 2009 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
can you post the list of who adopted who?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope your sig makes some reference to his moles
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
do you think sabes went. well they would give us dan uggla for alderson, but his average is not near 300, plus sanchez is already here and i want to go out for a drink later today...
by sadison bummedgarner on Jul 29, 2009 10:15 PM PDT reply actions
SUCK IT RUSSELL MARTIN
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
So lets recap....
Giants Win
Cain is amazing
Giants get Freddy Sanchez
Atop Wild Card Standings
Only 7 back of Dodgers
………….
Giants win Wild-Card and eliminate Phillies in the NLDS in 5
Giants sweep Dodgers in 4 in the NLcS and Russell Martin Cries
Giants win WS in game 7 against the Yankees with Freddy Sanchez going 5-5 with 6 RBI’s and finally the McCoven will rejoice
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Per Fox Sports:
One general manager, though, isn’t impressed with Alderson, calling him “overrated” and saying, “They had a long list of untouchables, and he wasn’t on it.”
it's interesting to hear it like that
The fact that they had a long list indicates some prudence. I guess the bottom line is they weren’t really high on Alderson. Time will tell if they are right
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 29, 2009 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll bet it's Sabean
Kevin Pucetas lurks in the shadows, waiting for his time to shine.
by Sammy Danger on Jul 30, 2009 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
so
Neal replaces Tim2 on the Big4?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 10:33 PM PDT reply actions
:(
Sorry about your son
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Madison &
Thomas &
Angel &
Buster.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
actually
sounds better
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
B-uster
A-ngel
T-homas
M-adison
A-lderson
N-oonan
would have been pretty cool. oh well
Garlic fries 08
by operation carrot on Jul 29, 2009 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I like this trade philosophy. Anybody that can contribute to spelling Batman is untouchable.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Certainly a lot better than building a team after “Aquaman”.
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Yeah, Edwin Quirarte’s been pretty disappointing since his great April.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
Replace the A with..............
………………….damn it
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
Adrianza!
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Whatever, I don’t see a single A in that name.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Ne-A-l?
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
TOO SOON!
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Look.
I know she’s pretty big and all, but Venus Williams is not a man.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Aurilia!
The past, present, and future
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by rightcenterfielder on Jul 29, 2009 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Motels
Take the L out of “Loser”
and it’s “Oser”
NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Jul 30, 2009 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions
holy shit, that would’ve been awesome.
emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 29, 2009 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions
:(
emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 29, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Well,
There are still those bitter memories of A.J. Pierzynski for Joe Nathan, Boof Boonser, and Fransisco Liriano.
Losing Boof
hurt the most
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
me
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
In one way or another we are all still Waiting For Boof
by Orwell D. Catt on Jul 29, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I think we should trade for an all stupid name team
C- Buster
P- Boof
1B- ??
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I already have a pitcher, he can be DH
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
MADISON BUMGARTER SHOULD HIT FOR YOUR TEAM!
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by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Founding Father James Madison is mildly outraged.
by satyricrash on Jul 29, 2009 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
not his first name
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
With a last name like Bumgarner, you would think his parents would have named him Bill or John or something normal
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Billjon Bumgarner?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Weinergatherer Bumgarner
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by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Its very WASPish indeed
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by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Also cheers to my man James Madison. NO FACTIONS MOTHERFUCKERS!!^~&!
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by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I think someone suggested on one of the trade threads that we just keep trading players until the whole lineup is [first name] Sanchez
WHO WOULD BAT CLEANUP!!!
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Bengie Molina Sanchez
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by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Semi OT: How badass of a name is Urban Shocker
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_Shocker
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
/ goes in to list of best baseball names ever
My adopted son Matt Downs . Ranked as the 24th best prospect in the Giants farm system by Baseball America !!
i still laugh everytime I say Coco Crisp
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by BleedBlackNOrange on Jul 30, 2009 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I love Coco, the first non Giants player shirt I got was a Red Sox one that said Coco on the back instead of Crisp, it was badass!
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
Milton Bradley is a funny name, too bad he is raving lunatic with a temper actually shorter then Lou Piniella’s
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by BleedBlackNOrange on Jul 30, 2009 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions
true story
My BFF is named Coco (real name Koshka, they’re Ukranian) and she’s a Red Sox fan. I got her a COCO 10 baseball bracelet because it’s her name, plus she’s a perfect 10 to me. She loved it. She also has the T-shirt.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 30, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I was at a gas station on PCH (in LA) when Pujols got that hit to beat the LOLdgers right now and everybody let out a sigh as I let out a “yeaaah!”
got some dirty looks
"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits
I suppose this would be a good time for me to actually look at his stats and stuff.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
nah
Groupthink ftw
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
TWSS
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
You’ll just have to wait for Goofus.
No, wait… he’s dick jokes.
I’ll get back to you.
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by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
What’s long and hard and full of seme… wait, that’s not poop.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I got it!
Full of… corn.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Win
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess he’s fine.
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by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I GUESS HE'S OKAY! I MEAN, I GUESS! PROBABLY!
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by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Dude, he’s just not into you.
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Can’t look at a stat for “clubhouse chemistry” dawg
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by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
For the first time in 20 years
ESPN is not leading SportsCenter or ESPNEWS with a Yankees or Red Sox highlights.
BRETT FAVRE BRETT FAVRE BRETT FAVRE BRETT FAVRE BRETT FAVRE BRETT FAVRE BRETT FAVRE BRETT FAVRE BRETT FAVRE BRETT FAVRE BRETT FAVRE BRETT FAVRE BRETT FAVRE BRETT FAVRE BRETT FAVRE BRETT FAVRE BRETT FAVRE BRETT FAVRE BRETT FAVRE BRETT FAVRE BRETT FAVRE BRETT FAVRE BRETT FAVRE BRETT FAVRE BRETT FAVRE BRETT FAVRE!
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Well my Brett Favre’s back and your defense is in trouble
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I will miss John Madden doing the football this season.
by Merope on Jul 29, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
i'm going to pretend thats how you intended to write that.
by sadison bummedgarner on Jul 29, 2009 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions
John Madden was the master telestrator. Or, as I like to call it, the Masterstrator.
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by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions
In the string of unfunny dudes posted in the gameday thread today, that Frank Caliendo guy ranks #1 over Jimmy Fallon I think
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by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions
So nobody mentioned Dane Cook, then?
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by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh yeah good call
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by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions
BABAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions
REC'D
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions
ROFL
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 29, 2009 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Stupid comments for fun and profit
This one’s from Facebook. Surprisingly, there are no glaring grammatical errors:
all you sabean bashers are off base. Remember the last two trades with the pirates? Giants traded #1 Ryan Vogelsong and tossed in Armondo Rios for Jason Schmidt. How’d that turn out? What about the last trade of Matt Morris and his $$ for Rajai Davis? Alderson may or may not turn out, but we can’t just sit back and not make a move. I like the trade.
I just love this logic. Because the Giants ripped off the Pirates twice before, this trade must ALSO be a steal. Even though the Pirates have another GM and the players involved have basically nothing in common.
Also, what exactly was Ryan Vogelson #1 at?
And, then, finally, the old “WE HAD TO DO SOMETHING!!!!!!!” The same type of clear thinking that netted us such all-time great Giants as Ricky Ledee, Sidney Ponson, and Shea Hillenbrand.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
He’s Number One!!!
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
He was #1 in all of baseball at giving up 18th inning runs in 2001, I guess.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
Okay, this one is much worse
Remember the last prospect we traded?? Liriano had one good season and now he does’t even have a shoulder or elbow or whatever. Just chill out people.
WHAT THE SHIT HE’S USING THE FUCKING AJ TRADE AS EVIDENCE THAT THIS WAS A GOOD DEAL.
/dies
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
The last prospect we traded was Barnes.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay, here's one more dumb facebook comment
The only downside is giving up our young talents….
It’s funny how often giving up players in a trade is the downside, isn’t it?
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
Why are you subjecting yourself to this? Are you in some pharmaceutical companies experiment to test high blood pressure meds?
Stupid people are funny.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
It's like a pill commercial
Possible side effects include diarrhea, erectile dysfunction, heart murmers, loss of breathing, flaking skin, giving up young talents, and even worse diarrhea.
But other than those things it’s only upside, baby!
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I, for one, would really have rather given up our old talents
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 29, 2009 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m wondering… do you think anybody wants Kevin Frandsen? Do you think he could have some trade value now or this winter?
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 29, 2009 11:08 PM PDT reply actions
Package him n a deal of Alderson or Barnes.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Heh... package.
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by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
was it a nice package?
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 29, 2009 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve always wondered what “SSS” means.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 29, 2009 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions
small sample size, i think
SIgn Many Bats!
by ringleader3 on Jul 29, 2009 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it's the second half of "that's what she said."
What’s the extra S for? Well, I think the answer to that is obvious.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions
It was meant to be small sample size. For small package. Get it? Hello?
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
i got it, i even posted it
SIgn Many Bats!
by ringleader3 on Jul 30, 2009 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions
It was glorious. And the delivery service was prompt and courteous.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
He was removed from the game in the second inning today
And one of the dudes in the press box was saying his name was up in trade rumors all day! Nobody actually knew what was going on with him.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 29, 2009 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Ha, maybe those Frandsen/Bowker/Guzman rumors were true, and fucking Sabean just decided he’d rather give up Alderson. WHY GIVE UP 3 PLAYERS WHEN U CAN GIVE UP JUST 1???
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
I think Bochy called Fresno’s manager and instructed him not to play Frandsen, as that had always worked for him.
Billy Ripken is not a fuck face
by Karlifornia on Jul 29, 2009 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
maybe now that Sanchez is off the market, the Twins are looking at Frandsen to solve their 2B clusterfuck
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 29, 2009 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s late and I’m exhausted from hyping myself up about trade rumors today, didn’t see the ledge.
by BleedBlackNOrange on Jul 29, 2009 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Boof Bonser plz!
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe we can get that Justin Morneau type bat
Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 29, 2009 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
omg seriously if the Giants traded for Joe Mauer
I might lose my mind.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 29, 2009 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
DREAMY
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
so very dreamy
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 29, 2009 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
dont complain
you got Freddy Sanchez
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh. Boy.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 29, 2009 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions
DREAMY
and he can play SS!
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions
WAR
Wait that’s what is it good for.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 29, 2009 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
HUNH!
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
And not the 80s’ “bad” either.
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Not even Michael Jackson’s “Bad.”
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
OXY CLEAN IT!
Billy Ripken is not a fuck face
by Karlifornia on Jul 29, 2009 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I would have been sold if the trailers ended with the whole “GEEEEE EYYYYYYYE JOOOOOOOOOOE!” thing
but they didn’t. I’m pretty sure it’s going to suck. I’ll just stick with the overdubbed PSA clips on youtube.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
I hope they kept the realistic guns that actually shoot lasers.
PEW PEW PEW
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by rightcenterfielder on Jul 29, 2009 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions
One of these days I’m going to buy me a fire hose… and when my punk ass neighbors start smoking their dollar store cigarettes outside my open windows …well…. they just better look the fuck out!!!
I would be pretty happy if people stopped throwing bones from shitty fast food fried chicken on the sidewalk on a semi-regular basis.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
worse FRICKIN AWESOME
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions
could beworsebetter….could be human bones.
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by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Starring David Boreanaz
Weeknights on FOX!
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t forget to practice your catch phrases.
“You guys look like you need to chill out.”
“You really don’t think those cheap cigarettes have a watered down flavor?”
“It’s raining, bitches!”
Okay… two of those kind of suck a lot.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Which is exactly why you need to practice.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions
“Smoke too long…you could get hosed…with water…from my hose…because I really want you to fucking stop.”
GROUGTHINK ALERT
sounds kinda sexual
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions
And yet it wasn’t howie who came up with it.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
I’m hearing that in George W Bush’s voice.
Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 30, 2009 1:32 AM PDT up reply actions
What kind of place are you guys living in, geez?
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by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Enh, I’ve lived in a lot of different cities and a lot of different kinds of neighborhoods, but pretty much all of them had litter of one kind or another.
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Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
apartment complex for us. The neighbor 2 doors down from us got evicted a few weeks ago, went off her bipolar meds and flipped out. Our immediate next door neighbor is a drug dealing, crappy cigarette smoking type person. Our apartment manager was an older lady and knew she was retiring; the last 2 years she was here I don’t think she gave a flying fuck on a rolling doughnut who she was renting apartments out to.
I wish the coyotes would stop yipping right outside my window!
by BleedBlackNOrange on Jul 29, 2009 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions
do we need another starter?
i don’t have any confidence left in TBS, i like joey but he is unproven.
by sadison bummedgarner on Jul 29, 2009 11:27 PM PDT reply actions
the aforementioned Frank caliendo?
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by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions
RIP Frank TV
NEVAR FORGET
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by rightcenterfielder on Jul 29, 2009 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I forgot as soon as I could
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
He’d rather watch Joey reruns, but that show is unproven.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry
I mean disproven.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Well… it was sloppy, but I was kind of saying unproven means that it could still prove to be good… but disproven means that we know it never will be… more or less.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
JOOOOOOOOOOOOO-EY
JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOEY
KING OF THE STREETS
CHILD OF CLAY
JOEY
JOOOOOEY
WHAT MADE THEM WANT TO COME AND BLOW YOU AWAY
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
I have a lot more confidence in Joey than TBS.
Judgment Day has been indefinitely postponed. :(
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You had confidence in him to begin with!?
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
well who is available that we could trade for? realistically.
by sadison bummedgarner on Jul 29, 2009 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Zach Duke?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions
The hookers need to keep their wildebessts leashed
they keep spitting thorugh my window
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 11:28 PM PDT reply actions
YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE WITH A CUTE KID OKAY????
I still hate Sabean, though.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
My kid is cuter!
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I THINK NOT
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
you win
my kid is ugly
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
No, I’m pretty sure they would exist even if we still had Alderson.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I do!
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Did you trade that for an iPod?
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Yeah, but I waited for it to poop first to make sure the trade was fair.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions
it was a red U2 iPod, to be fair
Billy Ripken is not a fuck face
by Karlifornia on Jul 29, 2009 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Wanna take this outside, MAN?!?!?!
Billy Ripken is not a fuck face
by Karlifornia on Jul 29, 2009 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Thank god howie kept his pants on this time.
VOTE SANDOVAL
Adopted Giant: Henry Sosa
by raisingcain on Jul 29, 2009 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Who do you think I am, WalrusMan?
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Or rather, how somebody else scored.
Totally not mine. She is cuuuuuuute, though.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions
So I take it there isn't a list of which member of the McCoven has adopted which Giant?
by BleedBlackNOrange on Jul 29, 2009 11:33 PM PDT reply actions
there is
but its a very painful and mentally challenging process if you want to see it
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Also, Tim Lincecum
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions
There is, but no one knows where it is.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
somebody posted a link a couple days ago
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Alrighty, well thanks. I will report back if I find it
by BleedBlackNOrange on Jul 29, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't know if this is the most recent or if it's totally up to date
by BleedBlackNOrange on Jul 29, 2009 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions
i think thats right
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Also, Tim Lincecum
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah that’s my bad, blank was next to the name below
by BleedBlackNOrange on Jul 29, 2009 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Ok, no one has Billy Sadler right?
by BleedBlackNOrange on Jul 29, 2009 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions
scratch that, I got dips on Eli Whiteside
by BleedBlackNOrange on Jul 29, 2009 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions
The first way is better for my slash.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions
who has Copeland?
wheres Rohlinger?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Teabaggin
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions
no one has the coke bottle?
SIgn Many Bats!
by ringleader3 on Jul 29, 2009 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions
This should be an accurate list.
http://pandora.bluwiki.com/go/Have_been_adopted
emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 29, 2009 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Do I have to wait for an official word if I want to adopt Eli Whiteside?
by BleedBlackNOrange on Jul 30, 2009 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Put it in your sig, that we we know he’s taken
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
Yep. That’s how I “adopted” Tanner before the draft thread.
emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 30, 2009 12:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ve been wanting to do this for awhile, just didn’t know who had been taken
Adopted Giant: Eli Whiteside
The real genius behind the no-no
by BleedBlackNOrange on Jul 30, 2009 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Im gonna take Copeland
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Also, Tim Lincecum
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 30, 2009 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions
never mind
I want Tyler Graham
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Adopted Father: Ben Copeland
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 30, 2009 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions
DNW
Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 29, 2009 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions
never heard that
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I wish I hadn’t heard that, but I did.
by BleedBlackNOrange on Jul 29, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions
BAY AREA TIES
It’s Teahen, by the way.
Judgment Day has been indefinitely postponed. :(
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Since everyone else is doing it, allow me to share a pic of my Pride & Joy
Billy Ripken is not a fuck face
IM GOING TO DIE AN OLD CHILDLESS SPINSTER!! runs off crying
Billy Ripken is not a fuck face
by Karlifornia on Jul 29, 2009 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions
That's much better than this other GIS result
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
she's my sweet little baby
I’m her little loverboy
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 29, 2009 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions
worst style: Californio rancher meets I dunno..
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Patrick Stewart regrets the whole thing.
by satyricrash on Jul 29, 2009 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions
oooh
Ive had an all too intimate experience with a marmot
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions
So, we’ve got a pedophile in WalrusMan – now we’ve got a zoophile to go with him.
We just need to find a necrophile and we’ve got a Yahtzee!
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
How did the Walrusman is a pedophile meme start? I think I missed that one.
Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 29, 2009 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Nobody seems to remember. We’re just glad it did.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
It started when we looked up his arrest history.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s right there in the user profiles. Mods get to see this stuff.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions
For example: Natto’s user profile reveals that he really was arrested one time for being too handsome. It sounds flattering, but posting bail on a charge like that sucks.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll bet he got a lot of action in prison though
Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 29, 2009 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Natto, not WalrusMan
Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 29, 2009 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions
What do you think the cost of bail is?
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I had hoped that my checkered past wouldn’t come back to haunt me!
Judgment Day has been indefinitely postponed. :(
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I’m not here to talk about the past
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not here to talk about checkers
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 30, 2009 6:29 AM PDT up reply actions
That and the hour-long special To Catch A Predator aired about him. I believe the title was Tot Trouble in Tusk Town.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
This site
And the comments here just make me keep coming back even though i got a final tomorrow morning, i love this place :)
If you flunk out of school, the world always needs more dental assistants
Billy Ripken is not a fuck face
by Karlifornia on Jul 29, 2009 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions
so my baseball that i have signed by madbum/alderson feels not very cool anymore
by sadison bummedgarner on Jul 29, 2009 11:45 PM PDT reply actions
It’s sad.
Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 30, 2009 1:35 AM PDT up reply actions
.
I guess its me and Sabean vs 7000 other folks, but I like the Sanchez trade. Its worth trading a possible #4 starer in 2012 for an all-star professional .300 career hitter. Yes, Alderson is a good prospect but he’s not in the protected set of madbum, posey and angel.
But the trade deadline isnt over, and we have plenty of guys we can still trade with. Teahan seems like another pro, batting .293, who could play in the outfield. Even more .300ish lineup depth
a possible #4 starer in 2012
Wow. Just wow.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
well, he’s not gonna displace tim or matt or madbum, so for us he’s at best #4. could he be a #2 for somebody else? maybe. could we have gotten more for him? perhaps but I cant think of any better fit for us for the next couple of years who is on the market right now. I doubt the Padres would move Gonzalez in the division. Scott Rolen might have been nice (but expensive) and I have no idea if they pursued that when talking to Toronto. (for some reason its always Alex Rios chatter)
First, he’s likely to be in the majors well before 2012. Second, you didn’t say “a fourth starter for us,” you said “a possible #4 starter,” which certainly seems to imply you think his ceiling is as a back of the rotation starter.
Also, isn’t Cain a free agent after 2011? So Alderson would be a THIRD STARTER AT BEST!!!!!!
Also, batting average in the absence of anything else isn’t a very good way to evaluate hitters.
Also, Mark Teahan isn’t very good.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
Err, Mark Teahen, rather. However you spell it, though, DNW.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
That’s only 3 years away, what’s the rush? This is California!
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions
The thing that bothers me most about this trade is just the appearance of it. The optics here are gross.
I very much agree with the FO sentiment that a postseason appearance this year is worth fighting for. I agree that Alderson was the right trade chip to dangle. I could be convinced that Alderson actually ain’t that good, and I could even be convinced that other teams know that Alderson ain’t that good, and that Freddy Sanchez was the tastiest morsel he was gonna net us. From a certain angle, in a certain mood, given certain caveats, I can possibly somewhat believe that an Alderson-for-Sanchez swap was in our best interest.
But here’s the thing. Well, actually, here are the things:
1) The Pirates were very motivated to move Sanchez and had no other likely suitors for him. We might not’ve been able to do better than Freddy for Alderson, but Pittsburgh definitely wasn’t going to be able to do better than Alderson for Freddy.
2) Alderson rated well on every prospect list you can name. Giants fans, understandably, grew attached to the idea of him.
3) The Giants have been burned by trading highly rated young pitchers in the past.
4) The acquisitions of middling aging hitters have been killing us lately.
5) The recent rise in pro-prospect rhetoric has been one of the main things keeping the fanbase from rioting.
All of those things make this trade very hard to swallow from a fan perspective. So if you’re Brian Sabean, and you know you’re going to trade Tim Alderson for Freddy Sanchez, you need to handle this thing carefully.
First of all, you need to try to get some softeners — either you get some money back from Pittsburgh or a middling prospect or two. Alderson’s a coup for them, and they know that, so make them pretty the picture up a tad for your fanbase. You should know a one-for-one won’t go over well. Moreover, act like this was hard for you. Act apologetic about trading Alderson, acknowledge that punting on the guy runs contrary to the current team philosophy, but say that this competitive year is worth making some painful sacrifices. Make it clear that this is predicated on fielding and lineup construction and competitive windows, not the usual .300/vet/fuck-the-prospects malarkey that’s led this team astray the last several seasons.
What was Sabean’s spin on this trade?
“Simply put, our long-awaited next move has finally been consummated,” Giants general manager Brian Sabean said. “A kid that has distinguished himself as an All-Star three out of the last four years and a batting champ within that time frame. The timing’s great.”
Calling the 31-year-old a “kid” is cute. But really, this is atrocious.
The problem is not just that we traded a valuable young piece for a less-valuable older piece. The problem is not just that we weakened our future without surely strengthening our present. The problem is not just that we look like the same ignorant yokels that we have so many times in the past. The problem is that Sabean sounds delighted about all of it. There’s no wink to the fanbase saying “don’t worry, this isn’t like the old times”, there’s no acknowledgement that there’s more to success than batting average. All you get is “batting champ”, “All-Star”, and the suggestion that adding a .770 OPS guy represents the consummation of something. As tone-deafness goes, this is about on par with Travis Bickle taking a girl to a porno on a first date.
It is possible — not likely, but possible — that Alderson for Sanchez is not a terrible trade for us. Still, it looks terrible, and that matters. The Giants have customers to satisfy, and they should know that most of the ardent ones will hate this move. The least they could do is to try to make those customers feel okay, that their concerns are being heard in ways they weren’t in years previous, and to signal that they have good reasons to override the worries the best and smartest Giants fans have about this. Those signals haven’t come. Is it ignorance or apathy? I don’t know, and I don’t care. But it’s fucking gross, and it’s troubling.
by onlxn on Jul 29, 2009 11:51 PM PDT reply actions 5 recs
I appreciate this comment.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
the no money back thing is still bugging me
SIgn Many Bats!
by ringleader3 on Jul 29, 2009 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions
me too.
At least there was an excuse for including top prospects when it was thought that the Pirates were kicking salary this year and next… without that, I just don’t get it.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
In a way i’m glad there wasn’t any money involved as you can imagine the outcry on here about us only giving up Alderson to save a few bucks (even if that wouldn’t have been the case)
Proud parent of Waldis Joaquin!
can we get the money after the fact?
SIgn Many Bats!
by ringleader3 on Jul 30, 2009 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions
It is definitely fucking gross while also being troubling
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"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 29, 2009 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions
So what you’re saying is: you like the trade or you don’t like the trade?
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions
He likes its personality, but can’t get past the large, raised, hairy moles on its forehead, nose, and chin.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions
the optics of sabes winking at me is gross
SIgn Many Bats!
by ringleader3 on Jul 29, 2009 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions
No...
…that’s his face. Over there.
NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Jul 30, 2009 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Can someone give me the Cliffsnotes?
Its a little late for all that reading
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
page 606, totally true
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
HOLY SHIT DUDE
Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 29, 2009 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions
OT
I actually managed to never get that spoiled for me. I found out in the book like a noob.
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
Yeah, but there’s less blatant oral sex innuendo in the books.
“Oh Harry… fancy meeting you on the staircase while I’m wearing nothing but a robe.”
“Oh, hi Ginny”
“On no! Your shoe is untied. Let me just bend down here at crotch level so I can tie it for you.”
“By all means!”
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 30, 2009 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions
I havent seen the new one, I assume there is uncomfortable sexual innuendo though
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
isnt that the whole plot of this one? the kids hookin up?
SIgn Many Bats!
by ringleader3 on Jul 30, 2009 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Let’s just say Snape holds his wand in a very odd way.
Judgment Day has been indefinitely postponed. :(
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And he may or may not have expelliarmused my pants.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 30, 2009 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions
No...
…that’s his wand. Over there.
NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Jul 30, 2009 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions
There is visually stunning innuendo that is both uncomfortable and unmistakable.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 30, 2009 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions
plus slughorn is a pedo
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
From what I have seen, they fucked up that casting
He was supposed to be “Hurley from lost Fat” and have handle bar facial hair
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
They kind of did but Jim Broadbent was hilarious, so I really don’t mind. He was my favorite part of the movie.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
He was very awesome in the movie.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 30, 2009 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree. He was awesome.
emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 30, 2009 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s probably because Jim Broadbent = awesome.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Also that.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 30, 2009 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions
The Cormac McLadden stuff was pretty damn creepy.
emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 30, 2009 12:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Dammit, man, the “G” is near the “D” and I fail at using a keyboard.
emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 30, 2009 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions
YOU do?
I will pay BIG BUCKS or FRANKENFRANCS or WHATEVER for a keyboard where the CAPS LOCK key is nowhere neaR ANYTHING RESEMBLING A letter.
NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Jul 30, 2009 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I spent like a year not telling my girlfriend and making sure that other people didn’t tell her, and then I made a stupid joke about it to her like the day before the paperback went on sale and felt like an asshole.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 29, 2009 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions
or not
NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Jul 30, 2009 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions
So, how’d you feel after spoiling it for her?
Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 30, 2009 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t find out until I read it, also. Harry Potter 7 on the other hand is a different story.
emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 30, 2009 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions
EVERYONE DIES!
page 606, totally true
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
ZOMG R U SRS
emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 30, 2009 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions
SHE R SRS BLACK!
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 30, 2009 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions
:O
emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 30, 2009 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions
SRS BLACK IS BLAKC?
Supporting San Francisco Dugout since 2005 and Manny Burriss since 2006, and bringing you all your California League needs since 2009.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 30, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Why did we trade for a dude with leprosy or whatever that shit is?
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions
gamer marks
made of grit
SIgn Many Bats!
by ringleader3 on Jul 30, 2009 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions
but he made the unbreakable vow!
by sadison bummedgarner on Jul 30, 2009 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions
it can't be broken!
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 30, 2009 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions
sabes = smug
sanchez = mole RIGHT next to his mouth making it very noticeable
thats it more or less
by sadison bummedgarner on Jul 29, 2009 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Sabean sucks.Giants still can’t hit
Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 29, 2009 11:56 PM PDT reply actions
Some belated trade thoughts
I’m pretty disappointed about the trade & don’t really like it although suprisingly i’m not as angry about it as i should be. I’m not going to defend the trade as i don’t like it but i think there’s a few things that are being overplayed/underplayed in the (understandable) outcry against the trade.
1) Sanchez is a good player, a very good player in fact & the “the only thing he does well is hit for average” isn’t doing him justice. Apart from last year he’s been a 3 or 4 win player & that’s very good. Given our poor production out of 2B that’s possibly a 4 win improvement next year & 1.5 win improvement this year. Also i’ve seen a strange number of “but we could have had Willingham instead” comments when he’s generally a 2-3 win player and worse than Sanchez.
2) He’s got a minor injury & is currently day to day so saying he’s broken down is unfair. The medical staff have looked him over and given him the ok so it’s presumtuous to assume you know better than that.
3) I think people are overestimating the Pittsburgh effect and assuming that because it’s Pittsburgh we should have given up hardly anything. The fact that there were some weak packages rumoured doesn’t help either but assuming we should have got a good player for a bag of balls isn’t likely (although i do think we overpaid). Also, the LaRoche deal isn’t comparable at all, he’s nowhere near as good as Sanchez & is a free agent at the end of the year.
Like i say i’m not justifying the trade as i don’t like it & wouldn’t have made it but lets not overdo the rightous indignation by misleading the situation.
Proud parent of Waldis Joaquin!
by GiantFan on Jul 29, 2009 11:57 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
well said
I don’t like the trade either, but these are some of the things (along with that fact that Alderson is a great prospect but not an uber prospect) that are keeping me from getting too upset about it
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 30, 2009 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Well I'm going to bed
Good night, sweet prince, and flights of Freddy Sanchez sing thee to thy rest.
everyone wants power power power. i dont think that’s the major problem. I think we need fewer AAA at-bats.
It is part of the problem.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 30, 2009 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions
And also, everybody wants to rule the world.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 30, 2009 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks, now I have the song stuck in my head.
Judgment Day has been indefinitely postponed. :(
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You’re welcome.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 30, 2009 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions
It didn’t help that KNBR used to use this as its traffic report in the morning.
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lol he’s wearing a pink polo shirt in the video. DORK.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 30, 2009 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t appear to know the song, though. Interesting.
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by howtheyscored on Jul 30, 2009 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions
I had a Power Wheels jeep as a kid. My rich dad wasn’t always there, but when he was, it wasn’t so terrible.
Billy Ripken is not a fuck face
by Karlifornia on Jul 30, 2009 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions
I'VE GOT THE POWER!!!
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by satyricrash on Jul 30, 2009 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions
GO GO POWER RANGERS
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
TRICERATOPS!
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 30, 2009 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions
DRAGON SHIT!
still my favorite internet video ever, maybe
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by Sammy Danger on Jul 30, 2009 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions
THE POWER OF LOVE!
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by BleedBlackNOrange on Jul 30, 2009 12:12 AM PDT reply actions
That’s heavy, man.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 30, 2009 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions
GREAT SCOTT!
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by satyricrash on Jul 30, 2009 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions
actually I just had the song from Back to Future stuck in my head lol
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by BleedBlackNOrange on Jul 30, 2009 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Is a curious thing.
NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Jul 30, 2009 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I blame Fred Lewis.
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Frandsen update..
This bad news might have gotten to Frandsen, who lost his temper and was pulled from the game by manager Dan Rohn after flying out to end the second inning of Fresno’s 5-4 victory over Colorado Springs at Chukchansi Park.
Frandsen threw his bat in frustration after making the third out. As Frandsen removed his hitting gear, first-base coach Hensley Meulens stared him down and pointed to the dugout. Frandsen left the field and was replaced by Jake Wald at shortstop.
He should be happy he wasn’t traded to the Pirates
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by BleedBlackNOrange on Jul 30, 2009 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions
I want to give the guy a hug.
I’d have stabbed Bochy in his sleep / during a game (like there’s a difference LOLOLOL) if I was in his shoes.
Kevin Pucetas lurks in the shadows, waiting for his time to shine.
by Sammy Danger on Jul 30, 2009 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions
angry kevin is angry
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by ringleader3 on Jul 30, 2009 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions
FRANDSEN SMASH GROUND
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 30, 2009 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions
FANSITE LINKS KEVIN FRANSDEN TO GROUND
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by ringleader3 on Jul 30, 2009 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions
GROUND TO SEND 109 PROSPECTS TO GIANTS FOR FRANDSEN
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 30, 2009 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe tomorrow, just to fuck with Frandsen, they’ll have Rags show up wearing #19 again
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by satyricrash on Jul 30, 2009 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Poor kid
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Jul 30, 2009 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 30, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know whether Missing Barry is going to do an analysis on the trade like he did for the Garko trade but i did a quick rough calculation so as to determine the value of the trade.
Alderson is probably a top 26-50 ranked pitcher which according to the research works out to be $15.9M. If you were to be down on Alderson and say he’s a 50-75 ranked pitcher then he’d be worth $12.1M.
If we say Sanchez is worth around 4.5 wins over the duration of his contract then that works out to be worth about $20.5M. We’re due to pay him $10M over that time so his excess value is worth $10.5M.
What that shows is that the trade was a bad one and we lost out in terms of value. What it also shows is that it isn’t an OMG that’s a shocking, generational bad trade. I guess that probably matches my overall feelings are on the trade.
Proud parent of Waldis Joaquin!
until alderson wins a cy young
on that day…..i cry.
also avoid the chasm
by sadison bummedgarner on Jul 30, 2009 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions
twss… i guess?
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by ringleader3 on Jul 30, 2009 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions
like Bochy’s melon?
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by BleedBlackNOrange on Jul 30, 2009 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions
like a watermelon on a toothpick?
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by ringleader3 on Jul 30, 2009 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Overflow thread is overflowing.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 30, 2009 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Fair to say
at least 5,000 posts today?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 30, 2009 12:30 AM PDT reply actions
DO THE MATH
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by ringleader3 on Jul 30, 2009 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I can’t believe how many posts there have been on this today
Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list, tearing up Scottsdale, and has been alive long enough to see the Warriors make the playoffs once.
by BrianBokake on Jul 30, 2009 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions
It might’ve even have gone OVER 9,000.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 30, 2009 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions
4816, without the additional gamedays
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by ringleader3 on Jul 30, 2009 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s just post-trade comments isn’t it?
Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list, tearing up Scottsdale, and has been alive long enough to see the Warriors make the playoffs once.
by BrianBokake on Jul 30, 2009 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions
what about Fanshots?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 30, 2009 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions
7283, with gamedays
with fan shots? no idea how to even count those all
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by ringleader3 on Jul 30, 2009 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions
damn
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 30, 2009 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions
still getting my shit together
what is the difference between a fanshot and a fan post
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by ringleader3 on Jul 30, 2009 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions
People complain more about fanshots.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
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Fanposts should generally be fanshots. Fanshots should generally be comments.
Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list, tearing up Scottsdale, and has been alive long enough to see the Warriors make the playoffs once.
by BrianBokake on Jul 30, 2009 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I enjoyed the succinctness.
Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 30, 2009 1:39 AM PDT up reply actions
*BLAM*
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by ringleader3 on Jul 30, 2009 12:37 AM PDT up reply actions
fanpost == blog type things
fanshot == quick little piece of info?
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by ringleader3 on Jul 30, 2009 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions
basically
maybe an interesting article or something
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 30, 2009 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions
what do i care… i never add content anywhere… total lurker, generally
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by ringleader3 on Jul 30, 2009 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I also can’t believe Sadowski is getting another shot
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by BrianBokake on Jul 30, 2009 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Well I mean who else are they gonna throw out there? Miller? Joey?
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by BleedBlackNOrange on Jul 30, 2009 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions
I’d say Joey, Pucetas, anyone? He just hasn’t looked like a major leaguer since his first two starts and if we’re getting serious about this WC race (I.E. trading your number 2 pitching prospect) we’re going to have to start making some changes on who’s in that spot.
Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list, tearing up Scottsdale, and has been alive long enough to see the Warriors make the playoffs once.
by BrianBokake on Jul 30, 2009 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Where would Joey be if he hadn’t taken that line drive earlier this year?
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by BleedBlackNOrange on Jul 30, 2009 12:37 AM PDT up reply actions
With the big league club I’d imagine. What do you think?
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by BrianBokake on Jul 30, 2009 12:37 AM PDT up reply actions
long relief
miller would be in fresno, probably
by sadison bummedgarner on Jul 30, 2009 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions
screw the wildcard. we’re only 7gb and with our pitching and more lineup depth we can win the division if we apply ourselves
After our two-headed monster I’m not sure how good our pitching really is. If our bullpen can hold up I’d say it’s still a strength but losing Johnson really really hurts.
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by BrianBokake on Jul 30, 2009 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions
For me, it’s really about how Sanchez and Zito pitch in the second half of the year. I have no faith that RJ is going to come back this year and pitch anywhere near the level he was at the beginning of the year. And I would really like for Joey to be in the Miller role now. Long relief with an occasional spot start.
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by BleedBlackNOrange on Jul 30, 2009 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions
i'd take a 2-2 series and be pretty happy about it
by TimLincecumIsGod on Jul 30, 2009 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions
for real
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 30, 2009 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions
fixed
i’d take a 2-2 series and and Dodgers fail and be pretty happy about it
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 30, 2009 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions
i’d take a 2-2 series and Dodgers+Rockies fail and be pretty happy about it
by californianotter on Jul 30, 2009 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Joey ftw
I like him
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 30, 2009 12:34 AM PDT reply actions
wanted to use this pic again :D
but seriously, our future looks a little dimmer with this trade.
by californianotter on Jul 30, 2009 12:38 AM PDT reply actions
Just a tiny bit dimmer I’d say
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by BrianBokake on Jul 30, 2009 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions
so did we trade someone?
Play hard, then rock out even harder.
by TheBigLeburnski on Jul 30, 2009 12:38 AM PDT reply actions
Looks like Im the last one awake
again
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 30, 2009 12:45 AM PDT reply actions
still here, but i think ive run out of stuff to watch
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by ringleader3 on Jul 30, 2009 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Nope I’m still awake
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by BleedBlackNOrange on Jul 30, 2009 12:45 AM PDT up reply actions
ug
but I have swim practice at 7:45
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 30, 2009 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions
So any idea when Franchez is gonna suit up?
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by BleedBlackNOrange on Jul 30, 2009 12:47 AM PDT reply actions
I
heard it might be Monday.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 30, 2009 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m just praying that nothing is wrong with his knee
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by BleedBlackNOrange on Jul 30, 2009 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions
alright im done for the night
night everyone
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by BleedBlackNOrange on Jul 30, 2009 1:02 AM PDT reply actions
facepalm
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by zodiac_chiller on Jul 30, 2009 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I’d prefer Sanchez hitting 4th to Molina.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 30, 2009 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions
I'll put this out there...
I emailed a few people who might know…and as a site, we are way off base.
One such person said “Sabean was lucky to get Sanchez with Alderson right now.”
There’s a perceived value on this board about Alderson, and it is way off. His control was off. His velocity was down. His strikeout rate was plummeting. And his throwing motion was becoming more of a concern. And every scout that had been to the Eastern League for it had seen it.
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i guess this is why no money came over with freddy? Alderson was barely enough himself?
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I agree with this. A lot of people, especially now in Pittsburgh, about Alderson’s decline as a top prospect
by DrJ Funk Master Deluxe 3000 on Jul 30, 2009 1:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Pittsburgh, *are worried* about…
by DrJ Funk Master Deluxe 3000 on Jul 30, 2009 1:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks for the perspective, Brute…
\begins moving away from the ledge
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