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Quick Pre-Game OMG OMG OMG Freddy Sanchez Thread

I kind of get the excitement. Going from Giants 2B to Freddy Sanchez is like going from Normal 2B to Chase Utley. But when I read things like this...

I'm hearing conflicting information on whether the Giants would get Sanchez for prospects only (and they would be higher-level prospects than Scott Barnes) or prospects plus a player on the 25-man roster.

...I'm afeared. Maybe the folks giving Henry Schulman the information weren't familiar with Barnes, so they assumed he was a real low-level scrub. Or maybe Thomas Neal is packing his bags right now and offering to split a cab with Tim Alderson.

The other thing that scares me: The Giants would prefer to give up better prospects rather than take on Sanchez's full salary next year. If the money saved is used for the super shiniest toolbox the Dominican Republic's ever produced, then that's swell. If the money is used on Edgar Reteria's older brother, Medgar, it seems like a move that's short-sighted, at best.

Hold me. I'm afeared.

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According to one internet rumor from man who knows man who knows guy

It is Guzman, Frandsen, Pucetas for Freddy Sanchez. Believe at your own peril!

by jctGamer on Jul 29, 2009 8:29 AM PDT reply actions  

wow

we better be paying nothing for him, if that’s the case.

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Jul 29, 2009 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Meh

Guzman was a minor league sign
Frandsen kicked Sabean’s dog and wasn’t going to play here anyway

Pucetas is the one I hate dealing.

by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 29, 2009 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

IAWLTW

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Jul 29, 2009 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

With the big unit out out of whack for awhile, what happens when :(owski get lit up in his next few starts. Joe Martinez?

by CrispinGloversBalls on Jul 29, 2009 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Obviously Roy Halladay

by jctGamer on Jul 29, 2009 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

RUSS ORTIZ

"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."

by i did my job on Jul 29, 2009 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Honestly there is only about 12 starts left, and a 5th starter can be skipped a couple of times. I’d imagine whoever it is, won’t affect the outcome too much. Even Justin Miller for a couple of spot starts would be fine with me.

by jctGamer on Jul 29, 2009 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Paul Byrd? Ian Snell?

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 29, 2009 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

IAN SNELL

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Now a Mariner

Original member of the Van Buren Boys

by NuschlerFace on Jul 29, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pirates got a kid named Adcock in the deal. Maybe we should send them Bocock for Sanchez. If Adcock is a 2B, that could be quite the DP combo.

by kaliber on Jul 29, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey Now!

Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.

by Johnny Disaster on Jul 29, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

HAH

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Win.This comment is full of it.

My adopted son Matt Downs . Ranked as the 24th best prospect in the Giants farm system by Baseball America !!

by nvsfg on Jul 29, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

You just can’t avoid the flame.

by FreshStart on Jul 29, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Imagine Jon Miller on the call

Ground ball to Short, Cock, Cock, to First….. A DP!

by jctGamer on Jul 29, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

"Con-junk-tion"

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Jul 29, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m fine with that.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t want to part with pucetas or guzman but hey…

frandsen and fred, on the other, will never get a fair shot here anymore so..

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

ermm….??? Dunno why you lump Frandsen w/ Lewis as far as getting a fair shot. Lewis has had as many AB in just the last week as Franny has all year. Lewis been done more than fair imo.

Do not meddle in the affairs of GM's, for they are subtle and quick to anger.

by cybermaldonado on Jul 29, 2009 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I mean that at this point no matter what he does (unless it’s getting on base every single AB and make a flashy dive for a catch every game), Fred Lewis isn’t going to convince anyone that he’s the guy. So maybe “fair shot” isn’t the right words but just saying that from now on, Lewis is saddled with failure before even puts his spikes on.

Franny is just hard luck. It’s sad.

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think Lewis is fine

but if he’s your starting LF, you better have a pretty damn good hitting infield or something.

Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on Jul 29, 2009 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

…and probably someone better than Ryan Garko at 1st.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 29, 2009 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

but im BARKO FOR GARKO

Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on Jul 29, 2009 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

additionally, lewis makes me sad every time he is interviewed because he sounds like he’s on the verge of breaking into tears.

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s said to be painfully shy and awkward.

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 29, 2009 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

but what about the witty commercials with molina! hat tricks are AWESOME

by jobrien9 on Jul 29, 2009 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

FREE KNEE CAPS

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Free Bobbahaed

My adopted son Matt Downs . Ranked as the 24th best prospect in the Giants farm system by Baseball America !!

by nvsfg on Jul 29, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

bubbahead

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I stand on the “pretty hard to hate Fred” platform promoted by JP

My adopted son Matt Downs . Ranked as the 24th best prospect in the Giants farm system by Baseball America !!

by nvsfg on Jul 29, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Modeled after a routine fly ball.

Proud parent of Frederick Charles Merkle.

by jhiat00 on Jul 29, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Seems wrong

The ball needs to be out on the ground

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s a pretty good looking bobblehead.

by Natto on Jul 29, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

/ is actually a Winn bobblehead. That is why the ball is in the glove :-)

My adopted son Matt Downs . Ranked as the 24th best prospect in the Giants farm system by Baseball America !!

by nvsfg on Jul 29, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought it looked classier than the standard bubbahead

Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list and batting .326 in Scottsdale...which I believe has be renamed Rafaelsdale.

by BrianBokake on Jul 29, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Classic. Even on his bobblehead likeness he’s not catching with both hands.

by Mister Merope on Jul 29, 2009 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d imagine we’ll give up more than that (at least in terms of a quality prospect" but i’d be happy if that were the deal & it went through.

Proud parent of Waldis Joaquin!

by GiantFan on Jul 29, 2009 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I do that, shower, then do it again.

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 29, 2009 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

that's obviously bullshit

but that would be an insanely good trade. Quantity over quality is awesome

by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 29, 2009 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

klaatu barada cough cough matt morris cough cough

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

that was a different GM

by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 29, 2009 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

shhhh

I’m trying to fake out the Necromonicon

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think you meant Necromancer

/nerd

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Jul 29, 2009 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m reminded of the divot in my couch when you said that

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

afrika bambaataa?

Proud parent of Frederick Charles Merkle.

by jhiat00 on Jul 29, 2009 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

zulu nation?

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

The only reason i don’t like dealing Pucetas is that right now he is the best 5th starter candidate we have. That being said, losing him is worth the upgrade at 2B

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Jul 29, 2009 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

not me. I want all pitchers with Zito like fastballs out of the organization. Start with Zito himself

Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!

by rxmeister on Jul 29, 2009 9:02 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

did you hate woody that much :(

by jctGamer on Jul 29, 2009 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Woody + Shed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zito + Herpes

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good enough for me.

It's my blarg! Quick Pitch

by can of corn on Jul 29, 2009 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

pucetas was my next hopeful call up to send back down sadowski

by jobrien9 on Jul 29, 2009 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

JOEY

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m OK with that…. I think.

by Natto on Jul 29, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or maybe Thomas Neal is packing his bags right now and offering to split a cab with Tim Alderson.

/blood gushes from orifices.

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Jul 29, 2009 8:30 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

This

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s not Vulcan!

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

/high five on someone getting the reference

NERD

by jctGamer on Jul 29, 2009 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

At least I didn’t set aside the time to create the ST joke

/fist pump

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hopefully the Giants are using Sanchez’ so called “injury” to bargain the price the down a bit.

by Merope on Jul 29, 2009 8:31 AM PDT reply actions  

NO

Tell those cheap bastards to put some meat on that sammy!

The 1st pitch is the best

by Tay on Jul 29, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

You spelled Mehdgar wrong

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 29, 2009 8:32 AM PDT reply actions  

They are going to use the saved money a new Garkolounger.

by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 29, 2009 8:32 AM PDT reply actions  

gotta make sure our mediocre talent is comfortable.

by CrispinGloversBalls on Jul 29, 2009 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Snuggies!

Proud parent of Frederick Charles Merkle.

by jhiat00 on Jul 29, 2009 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cliff Lee to the Phillies Warning

Carlos Carrasco has been scratched from his scheduled 11am start for Lehigh Valley against Columbus. Lou Marson and Jason Donald are also out of the lineup. Cleveland has been known to have interest in Marson and Donald. . Stay tuned.

by jctGamer on Jul 29, 2009 8:33 AM PDT reply actions  

Interesting

Baggs says Uggla is the focus, Schulman says Sanchez. Who’s right?

Wilber Bucardo: Carlos Silva with a younger brother.

by gianator on Jul 29, 2009 8:37 AM PDT reply actions  

I thought the Marlins weren’t interested in trading Uggla.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Baggs says Uggla is the IDEAL player, Marlins wont deal, though

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 29, 2009 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

that’s basically what Baggs is saying

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 29, 2009 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I heard Baggs was saying that, not sure where tho

Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl

by Viliphied on Jul 29, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would LOVE to have uggla but it won’t happen :(

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Marlins not selling. they are said to be buyers in a unwinnable NL East.

by jctGamer on Jul 29, 2009 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Trying to get that attendance up from 5K per game to 5.1K per game :/

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

it’s not just Hank against Baggs here, everyone else is saying Sanchez. Baggs should be careful what he wishes for here. He’s having a dreadful year offensively and he’s a defensive sieve.

Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!

by rxmeister on Jul 29, 2009 8:54 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, they should just DFA Baggs.

by cakes on Jul 29, 2009 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

whats baggs OPS this season?

SIgn Many Bats!

by ringleader3 on Jul 29, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Better than Aurilia’s, amirite?

Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.

by Johnny Disaster on Jul 29, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

it’s not just Hank against Baggs here, everyone else is saying Sanchez. Baggs should be careful what he wishes for here. He’s having a dreadful year offensively and he’s a defensive sieve.

Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!

by rxmeister on Jul 29, 2009 8:54 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

sorry for saying it twice. My cell phone stutters

Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!

by rxmeister on Jul 29, 2009 8:57 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

what is with this new trend of reporting one way trade rumors?

If team A wants a guy and team B says “we’re not trading this guy” that means there will be no trade and we should all move on. This shit about the Red Sox wanting Adrian Gonzalez and the Angels wanting Scoot Kazmir (neither of whom is anywhere close to available) is just absurd.

by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 29, 2009 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

HE WISHES!

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

hawt

Proud parent of Frederick Charles Merkle.

by jhiat00 on Jul 29, 2009 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

/Ryan Reynolds says Johansson not available

My adopted son Matt Downs . Ranked as the 24th best prospect in the Giants farm system by Baseball America !!

by nvsfg on Jul 29, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was a little worried when i read that as well but it depends on their definitions of the prospects are. My interpretation would be that it’d have to be at least Neal but quite possibly Alderson or Villalona. Another persons interpretation could be that it’s Noonan, Crawford or Gillaspie, so it’s difficult to say until we know what the move is.

With regards to the money i’d imagine it’s more of a case of trying to lower the price than prefering the money to prospects. I’d imagine they’re saying one of “if we have to give up Alderson (or whoever) then you’ll have to chip in with half his salary” or “if we’ve got to pay his whole salary we’re not including Alderson” as opposed to “we’ll add Alderson if you pay half his salary”

Proud parent of Waldis Joaquin!

by GiantFan on Jul 29, 2009 8:38 AM PDT reply actions  

High-level could just mean higher than single-A. The era of Bocock jokes might have come to a premature end

"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."

by i did my job on Jul 29, 2009 8:43 AM PDT reply actions  

Oh geeez you just used “Bocock” and “end” in the same sentence.

by Merope on Jul 29, 2009 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

and “sensitive tip”

wait

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 29, 2009 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

All I saw was BOCOCK…..Come…..Premature…

by jctGamer on Jul 29, 2009 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

TWSS

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

and premature

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree. I think they mean higher organizational level

more major league-ready prospects. Guzman, Frandsen, Pucetas sounds about right. To give up any Alderson-type prospects for a busted-up one-year stopgap (albeit better than current situation) would solidify Sabean as the new Dave Littlefield.
Liriano’s arm injury is the only thing that saves Sabean from still being thought of as Littlefield today.

by BigDaddyK on Jul 29, 2009 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

or maybe Gene Velez will keep hitting and win the job outright

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

by joe t on Jul 29, 2009 8:46 AM PDT reply actions  

eugenio velez linked to hitting

"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"

by The Gene Hackman on Jul 29, 2009 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

UNPOSSIBLE!

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Do we get a discount on a dented Freddy Sanchez?

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 8:58 AM PDT reply actions  

Wouldn’t it be crappy to trade for a guy and then have to DL him because his knee is fooked?

I am hoping the whole knee thing is a ruse.

by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 29, 2009 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Here’s an Epicgenio Failez for your “busted up” Sanchez. No backsies!

I have a feeling Sanchez thinks the Pirates org is full of shit and really doesn’t want to play for them anymore.

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

“You said that if I made the all star team you would trade me to a contender!”

Proud parent of Frederick Charles Merkle.

by jhiat00 on Jul 29, 2009 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

he reads mlbtraderumors, true story according to pittsbugh newspaper

by jctGamer on Jul 29, 2009 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

That would probably earn Sabean another year on his next contract.

Do not meddle in the affairs of GM's, for they are subtle and quick to anger.

by cybermaldonado on Jul 29, 2009 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Srsly

if it’s Guzman, Frandsen and Poo say tass for Fredsan then I really don’t see a problem. Guzman is a hacker and a butcher on D, Frandsen for whatever reason will never get a shot here and isn’t as good with the glove, and pucetas…well I don’t have a strong position either way on him but I’m always partial to fire-breathing k monsters myself, so I won’t be crying if he goes.

Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on Jul 29, 2009 9:08 AM PDT reply actions  

That pretty much sums it up for me.

It's my blarg! Quick Pitch

by can of corn on Jul 29, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

This was how I felt before the injury concerns. Now I am not so sure.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 29, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think the knee injury is kinda suspicious at this point. It’s not like you can say “Freddy isn’t playing against the Giants because we’re gonna trade him there.” That’s what a “healthy scratch” says. So you fudge a little, and say his knee is bothering him. To me it seems more like Manny Ramirez’s “knee injury” in Boston that magically disappeared in LA (although that was Manny’s fabrication to force a trade).

It's my blarg! Quick Pitch

by can of corn on Jul 29, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I loved it when, upon arriving in the clubhouse, Manny couldn’t remember which knee was injured.

by younghutch on Jul 29, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kevin

Observed Kevin ptich at Fresno last night. There appeared to be one scout that I could see who had his gun on both teams – hence my supposition that he was a scout for another team. Kevin pitched what was a typical Kevin game – he gave up three runs in 6.2 innings; he doesn’t overpower hitters, just moves the ball around and tries to get outs; not a lot of swing throughs. The umpire wasn’t giving him anything on the inside corner and made some questionable calls on balls and strikes, but he is in AAA after all and I suppose that must be expected. Kevin faces a few former major leaguers, including Dan Ortmeier, who hit a booming double against him, Sal Fasano, who had an RBI single and Mark Bellhorn, who he struck out on a change up. Kevin pitched against Adam Eaton, who gave up one run in 6.2 innings. Kevin is our only other quality 5th starter candidate, but isn’t really on most people’s top 15 list of prospects, is he?

by APGiantsFan on Jul 29, 2009 9:13 AM PDT reply actions  

I hope the Giants trade for without giving up

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on Jul 29, 2009 9:15 AM PDT reply actions  

Well, that didn't come out like I wanted it to come out.

I think I will leave it like that, though. You can guess what words were accidentally left out.

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on Jul 29, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Charlie Manuel/Bochy?

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 29, 2009 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

THAT’S THE SPIRIT!

"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"

by The Gene Hackman on Jul 29, 2009 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Giving up is the Giants way

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m kind of over Freddy Sanchez. He’s a good player but not that good, and the knee problem on top of the back problem should be a deal-breaker.

by Evan on Jul 29, 2009 9:21 AM PDT reply actions  

THIS

but i think it had something to do with baggs mentioning uggla’s name even though they don’t want to trade him

by jobrien9 on Jul 29, 2009 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

It WOULD be just the Giants luck for Sanchez to miss a month with an injury and/or hit .144 for the rest of the season.

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on Jul 29, 2009 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with Evan

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on Jul 29, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think the Giants should give up any of the top four or five prospects for Freddy. While he is a decent player, and a huge upgrade from what we have put at 2B this season, our poor production should not cloud the fact that Sanchez had an OPS of .669 last year and has almost no BB’s in his OBP. If any of our prime prospects are moved for anyone, I would hope we get more value in the deal.

by out machine on Jul 29, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well if it is for Frandsen, Guzman, and Pucetas, I don’t really see the problem with trading for him, he is a good player, a decent hitter and a good defender, more than just a small upgrade like Garko was

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by TexasRanger on Jul 29, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

There’s no way I trade Frandsen at this point if I’m Sabean. Franny has way too much potential to make him look very bad just by playing well. And I know the Giants don’t want me sending them the box score from Pittsburgh Post Gazette along with my daily “why hasn’t Sabean been fired Emails”.

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by cybermaldonado on Jul 29, 2009 9:23 AM PDT reply actions  

i do not agree. frandsen came in hot a few seasons ago and instantly became a “savior” after numerous chances (even though i know everyone here thinks otherwise) he just has not produced. i don’t get the feeling his is that breakout player everyone imagines him being.

by jobrien9 on Jul 29, 2009 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno – Sabean’s recent reference to Franny as a “stopgap” measure at 2b sounds like Franny is nowhere in the Giants’ plans.

by younghutch on Jul 29, 2009 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s obviously not in the Giants plans. My point is only that he’d better not turn out to be good for Sabean sake.

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by cybermaldonado on Jul 29, 2009 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

He will turn out to be, somewhere else, for sure.

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by zodiac_chiller on Jul 29, 2009 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

*cough*Joe Nathan*cough*Francisco Liriano*…

I know what you mean :(

by younghutch on Jul 29, 2009 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

i can’t believe liriano is only 25

by jobrien9 on Jul 29, 2009 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

If Frandsen does turn out to be good, Sabean would be better off being able to show the shiny major league player that he traded him for than having to explain why the organization let him walk as a minor league free agent.

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by EliminateMe on Jul 29, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Freddy better not cost much....

Let’s see:

1) Offensive output is derived entirely by his BABIP. Since he’s past 30 it’s a definite concern for me given that BABIP driven players usually hit a steep decline past 30, for two reasons. One, speed goes, which won’t really affect Sanchez and two, reflexes worsen. A guy like Sanchez has no real approach at the plate but go up bat and react to the pitch. He is gifted with amazing reflexes (which is why to this point he’s been a good major league player) but going forward I think it’s ticking time bomb.

2) His offensive value in 09 is derived solely from his 1st two months of the season in which he hit amazingly well. Since June 1st, he is hitting .250/.287/.363 and has gotten hurt to boot (plenty of injuries in his past as well).

3) While his defense is good, it’s really buoyed by one good year (2007). His entire career UZR at 2B is 4.5/150, which is good, but it’s boosted by one outlier and the fact that he is on the wrong side of 30 could suggest a decline in his defense as well.

4) 8 million next year. I’m sure next year’s FA market will be better than last year’s, but 8 million is a lot of money. Given where I think his career is going, it’s too much to gamble on as far as I’m concerned.

5) A prospect better than Scott Barnes? Maybe some would say that means Sosa or Noonan, but to me that screams at least Thomas Neal, which is too much IMO.

Is he an upgrade from what we currently have? Absolutely, but so would Kevin Frandsen

by NeifiChicken on Jul 29, 2009 9:25 AM PDT reply actions  

higher to me still just means AA or AAA

by jobrien9 on Jul 29, 2009 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hope so....

but I read it as “higher-level” meaning higher caliber.

My main worry is that it would be Neal, because I just can’t see Sabean even discussing the big 4 for something like Freddy. Neal would be bad though, since I don’t like Sanchez to begin with. If it was just Sosa or Noonan plus maybe Schierholtz, I’d still not like it because I don’t like Freddy Sanchez, but I could definitely live with that deal and just hope Sanchez can delay the inevitable for another year and a half

by NeifiChicken on Jul 29, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I read your post as “I don’t like Freddy Sanchez”.

Does that mean that you don’t like Freddy Sanchez,
or
Does that mean that you don’t like Freddy Sanchez,
or
Does that mean that you don’t like Freddy Sanchez,
or
Does that mean that you don’t like Freddy Sanchez,
or
Does that mean that you don’t like Freddy Sanchez?

by KrazyKrabMeat on Jul 29, 2009 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d be really pissed if we traded Neal for him.

I don’t care about the supposed cold streak he’s on, personally (and really, he still hit all right in June – about a 100ish OPS+, it’s mostly 13 odd games in July that’s the problem.)

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by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

no way in hell this happens. i wouldn’t put it by sabean but no way it happens.

by jobrien9 on Jul 29, 2009 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

The July is obviously more of an aberration, but so were the May and April. I think the June is more or less his skill level going forward, which is definitely an upgrade for us (esp when you factor in defense) but not worth the price of admission.

I’d prefer Adam Kennedy, but that just isn’t too feasable. My guess is that we are getting Sanchez, I just really hope it’s not for Neal or above

by NeifiChicken on Jul 29, 2009 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

If the price of admission is anyone Neal or higher, I’d agree. If not (if it’s like the deal laid out at the beginning of the post), I think he’s probably worth it.

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by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why isn’t it feasible, though? Adam Kennedy was barely a major league player six months ago. He should come cheap.

by Evan on Jul 29, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, he doesn’t appear to be on Sabean’s radar at all.

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by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

GIS for Sabean’s radar:

by younghutch on Jul 29, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Master Chief eats grenades for breakfast

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

And Chocolate donuts!

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by gianator on Jul 29, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is weird and wonderful.

by Natto on Jul 29, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Beane. When was the last time they made a trade? Never?

by satyricrash on Jul 29, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s probably barely a major league player now. He had one great month but has been pretty awful since then so i wouldn’t expect much going forward.

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by GiantFan on Jul 29, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

And had been pretty meh for 3 straight years before this one.

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by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

definitely

but the price should be much, much less in all definitions of the word.

by NeifiChicken on Jul 29, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

The price may be cheap but there’s a reason for that, he’s unlikely to be a good player is possibly not an upgrade on what we already have.

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by GiantFan on Jul 29, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

wait, why is that?

Kennedy has been a better hitter than him this year offensively and his defense has generally rated as consistently great.

I think that given Kennedy’s more recent trends, Sanchez is the better player, but it’s not a slam dunk and if he is the better player, I don’t think he is to the degree in which he’d costm ore

by NeifiChicken on Jul 29, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kennedy’s projected for a .310 wOBA for the rest of the season. Sanchez is .327 and if I were going to bet on one of those players outperforming their projection, it would be Sanchez.

And Kennedy has been -3.8 runs at 2B this year (-10.5 UZR/150).

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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing the 09 defense is an outlier

His career UZR/150 at 2B is double Sanchez’s

Maybe he’s not that player anymore, but I never put too much stock into one single outlier when it comes to defensive metrics (after all, that’s what inflates Sanchez’s defensive value).

Similarly, if I were to bet on one of those players beating that RoS mark it’d be Kennedy, simply because he actually posesses a secondary offensive skill and hasn’t had the same injury problems as Sanchez this year.

That doesn’t mean I think he actually is a better player, all things being equal I’d prefer Sanchez, but I don’t the difference between them is pretty marginal, whereas the cost between them is certainly not

by NeifiChicken on Jul 29, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s a moot point though if Sabean isn’t even aware Kennedy exists, which appears to be the case.

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by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

He's on the A's

Just seems like these two never deal. Competing markets, territory rights, Beane has an IQ over 100, etc.

On any other team, he’d be a definite candidate

by NeifiChicken on Jul 29, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

There's no way Frandsen would be an upgrade over Uribe.

Defensively, maybe….. but I’d take Uribe over Frandsen any day. I was out of the country when Frandsen had his hot call-up two (?) years ago, and everything I’ve seen of him since then is failure to execute after failure to execute.

I’m prepared for the Frandsen-lovers to rain hate down on me. But he’s had his chances and has looked TERRIBLE for a long time now.

by GrooveGiant on Jul 29, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not going to rain hate down on you, but Frandsen really hasn’t gotten an extended, consistent shot since that hot streak two years ago. He’s had a few call ups of 30 sporadic ABs.

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by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm really hoping

That at some point before the deadline, the Nationals realize that they have absolutely no use for Willingham now or at any time in the forseeable future.

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by GiantPain on Jul 29, 2009 9:34 AM PDT reply actions  

Quick !

Send them an e-mail to remind them the deadline is Friday !

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by nvsfg on Jul 29, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

11:45am: Kovacevic says the Mariners acquire Wilson and Ian Snell for Clement, Ronny Cedeno, Aaron Pribanic, Brett Lorin and Nathan Adcock.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 29, 2009 9:48 AM PDT reply actions  

NO I WANTED SNELL

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by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

shit. right there with you

by jobrien9 on Jul 29, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

that package is weak.

Clement has been consistently overrated since he was drafted and the other players arent anything to get really excited about. Snell would have looked good in a Giants uniform.

Cain is Able ...

by Norcalfan10 on Jul 29, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

While I've liked Clement before, he's basically just a DH at best. Not sure why the Pirates would really want him.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 29, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

1B possibly

but he sorts of fits that mold of semi-promising 1B options without actually having a legitimately good one

by NeifiChicken on Jul 29, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

they liked adcock better then bocock :(

by jobrien9 on Jul 29, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

They wanted more cock, so they needed to Adcock.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 29, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Too easy but…TWSS!

by younghutch on Jul 29, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

So is Seattle buying here?

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 29, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

it sounds like it which is kind of strange

by jobrien9 on Jul 29, 2009 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe they like snell and hope to resign Wilson

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by say hey nation on Jul 29, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Snell is certainly a long-term type move.

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by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sort of. We have longer control of Ryan Garko than the Pirates had over Snell.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p4ew-fwu2XT05ujvNdujgQw

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by rotorueter on Jul 29, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Huh, I didn’t realize.

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by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t until a second ago, either.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 29, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

does their GM just read USS Mariner and make moves?

I feel this is like the 3rd time a move has happened that Dave Cameron asked for.

I like it for both sides honestly. Snell should rebound in SEA, and PIT got some decent pieces and got to shed a lot of salary (unless of course, they are sending $$$)

by NeifiChicken on Jul 29, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rosenthal confirms:

Pirates send Wilson, Snell to M’s — 12:43 p.m.

The Pirates just announced that they have acquired first baseman Jeff Clement, shortstop Ronny Cedeno and right-handed pitchers Aaron Pribanic, Brett Lorin and Nathan Adcock from the Mariners for shortstop Jack Wilson and right-handed pitcher Ian Snell.

by deuce deuce on Jul 29, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tweet from a reliable source:

source close 2 wrtr for Gnts Mgzne: “pffbbt bbee bow bow bow pffffft phbbbt.” when askd bout Frdy Snchz. Then put set of plstc kys in mouth

by Grant Brisbee on Jul 29, 2009 9:52 AM PDT reply actions  

So does anyone think the Pirates will trade Wilson, Snell and Sanchez all on the same day?

I am not so sure.

by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 29, 2009 10:01 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why not? They way I see it, they can piss off the fan base on one day or on two seperate days. Which one would you choose?

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by say hey nation on Jul 29, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just put Pittsburgh out of its misery.

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well i think all three were likely to be traded before the dealine so it wouldn’t suprise me.

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by GiantFan on Jul 29, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s not how I remember it….

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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 29, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

What on earth would we do with Teahen at this point????

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 29, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

TWSS

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by jhiat00 on Jul 29, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

no thanks.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 29, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

TWSS

The 1st pitch is the best

by Tay on Jul 29, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

DIDNT SEE THAT ONE COMING!!!!

OH, TWSS!!!!!!

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 29, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll take Scutaro too

Thing A

by sam23 on Jul 29, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Scutaro wouldn’t be too bad. Meh on Teahan.

by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 29, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

My sentiments as well.

by deuce deuce on Jul 29, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah what Teahen

He plays corner IF/OF positions and doesn’t hit enough for any of them. We already have this.

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by dangjackson on Jul 29, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

It would only make sense if we could trade Molina for something cool and move Panda to catcher.

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by rotorueter on Jul 29, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I believe there was some earlier discussion

of a trade involving Molina, a whip, and an idol.

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by dangjackson on Jul 29, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not as good as kingdom of the crystal skull

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by jhiat00 on Jul 29, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

When I saw this movie in the theatre I was trying my best to like it but this scene crushed what was left of that.

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by jhiat00 on Jul 29, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

FALLING OUT OF PLANE AND SURVIVING BY LANDING ON A LIFE RAFT

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by thehavenot on Jul 29, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

FIREANTZZZ!!!

Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list and batting .326 in Scottsdale...which I believe has be renamed Rafaelsdale.

by BrianBokake on Jul 29, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

You misspelled Crystal SkLOL

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by rotorueter on Jul 29, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

OMG Shia Labeouf IS HAWT

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by jhiat00 on Jul 29, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Clay Aiken?

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by jhiat00 on Jul 29, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Scutaro

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd actually prefer Scutaro to Sanchez

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by thehavenot on Jul 29, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

/shakes head yes
/agrees with havenot

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by nvsfg on Jul 29, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d like Scutaro.

Even moreso if we could get him to play SS

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by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Renteria injured, Scooter at short, with Urine at 2b?

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by rotorueter on Jul 29, 2009 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Urine is #1, not #2. Just an FYI.

by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jul 29, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

buttpee is #3

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by jhiat00 on Jul 29, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Scutaro AND Sanchez!

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by thehavenot on Jul 29, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd take it.

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by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

He may end up there considering Faileria’s elbow.

by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 29, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not interested in Teahan at all as we don’t need a 3B he’s not really an upgrade as an outfielder & i doubt he can play 2B.

Not interested in Scutaro either as he’s having a career year so isn’t as good a bet going forward & is also a rental. if he’s available for very little then sure as he may bring back a draft pick but i wouldn’t give up much of value for him.

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by GiantFan on Jul 29, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

BUT BUT HE WAS A MONEYBALL PICK!!

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by gianator on Jul 29, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I prefer Scutaro to Sanchez at this point. He’s only making about $1M this year and is more flexible defensively. As a free agent after this year, he can’t be all that expensive in a trade.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 29, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

BUT WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE FREE AGENTS

SABEAN SAID!

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by GiantBrass on Jul 29, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sanchez might be a free agent, too, especially if he gets more hurt and has to miss more time.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 29, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

thats why you need that insurance

cause if you’re hurt, and miss work…

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by ringleader3 on Jul 29, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

holy shit, are you serious

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by GiantPain on Jul 29, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like Marco Scutaro. =(

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by GiantBrass on Jul 29, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d take both of them and stash Renteria on the DL for the rest of the year.

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by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

yes to Scutaro

He’s a major upgrade, wherever we play him AND he’s most likely going to be a type A free agent after the season.

by superk1ng on Jul 29, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Im on rumor overload right now. Just make the deal already.

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by CB30 on Jul 29, 2009 10:12 AM PDT reply actions  

Agreed

I’m done with the whole rumor thing. Just tell me when something actuallyl happens.

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by jhiat00 on Jul 29, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

spelling fail

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by jhiat00 on Jul 29, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe after the game today?

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by gianator on Jul 29, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Game over…Sanchez headed to visitor’s clubhouse…“Uh, not so fast, Freddy”.

by younghutch on Jul 29, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Updated info from the PIrates "source"

http://insidepittsburghsports.com/story/giants-committed-to-finalizing-a-deal-with-the-pirates/15163/

Needs insider access, but judging from the comments section looks like we gave them a Guzman and some combination of choices out of five names :

Gillaspie
Noonan
Clayton Tanner
Jesse English
Waldis Joaquin

by jctGamer on Jul 29, 2009 10:18 AM PDT reply actions  

Nees more Velez

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by jhiat00 on Jul 29, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

grrr..can’t type today…*needs

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by jhiat00 on Jul 29, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

/thought you meant “knees” Velez. I’ve wanted to do that many times.

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by nvsfg on Jul 29, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Seems like Noonan would be an easy choice

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by CB30 on Jul 29, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

me thinks it’s like

Noonan? you pay 5 Mil
Gillaspie? you pay 3 mil
Tanner? you pay 2 mil
Waldis? ok! done!

by jctGamer on Jul 29, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty okay with those names.

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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Nothing too painful

I choose to watch the Giants try to score runs. Not because it is easy, but because it is hard.

by GiantPain on Jul 29, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think I’m going to assume it’s an infielder and a pitcher, in which case I’d prefer giving up Gillaspie to giving up Noonan.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

+1

Ideally they want Tanner and English.

by deuce deuce on Jul 29, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t mind giving up any of those players

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on Jul 29, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Noonan would be a bit of an overpayment unless the Giants use the Pirates’ money on tough amateur signs instead of veteran savvy.

by Grant Brisbee on Jul 29, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree about the money

I just don’t mind giving up Noonan. I don’t have much faith in him, even with how young he is.

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on Jul 29, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Noonan has been learning how to get on base. Not a true Giant.

Nice knowin’ ya Nick

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Do they know his arb clock is already ticking?

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

His arb clock isn’t ticking as long as he’s not in the majors, but his options are (and you only get three option years). And he doesn’t appear to be particularly close to the majors at the moment.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Okay

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

They'll probably bring him straight to the majors...

…since they will have traded away their entire infield by the 31st anyway.

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).

by EliminateMe on Jul 29, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm ok with this.

We get to keep Kevin <3

Kevin Pucetas lurks in the shadows, waiting for his time to shine.

by Sammy Danger on Jul 29, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I prefer not to give up on Noonan just yet. Gillaspie could still turn out OK, but his 40-man spot and cocky attitude makes me less adverse to losing him.

by kaliber on Jul 29, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s as if you typed my thoughts…

Original member of the Van Buren Boys

by NuschlerFace on Jul 29, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

No stair-throwing names on that list.

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).

by EliminateMe on Jul 29, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hope it’s Tanner and English, since I really doubt either of them will ever do anything.

It won’t be, but a boy can hope.

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Jul 29, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

NOOOOOOO

emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 29, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow

I must be a prospect hoard because I dont feel we should part with noonan or conor.

Cain is Able ...

by Norcalfan10 on Jul 29, 2009 10:22 AM PDT reply actions  

Noonan, I can understand not wanting to part with, he’s got youth and scouts on his side. But Gillaspie is hitting .279/.367/.368 in high-A ball, has already started his option years and probably projects as a second baseman longterm. He’s not old for the league or anything, but the lack of power is disconcerting. His ISO is under .100.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

can take a walk though

by jctGamer on Jul 29, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

He can but I’m not sure he can really do much else at the moment.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Very Sean Burroughs.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 29, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, Burroughs was putting up better hitting numbers at a younger age at higher levels. And probably playing better defense.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 29, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Burroughs was a really well thought-of prospect. He was just going to develop his power as he got older, really!

lol

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was having a conversation with my friend about how bad the Padres products have turned out.

Sean Burroughs
Kevin kouzmanouff
Matt Bush
That guy that was supposed to be the next A-Rod what was his name again?

by jctGamer on Jul 29, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kouz isn’t really that embarrassing. They didn’t draft him, and the guy they gave up for him isn’t even hitting well at Triple-A.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 29, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

it’s pretty much just Burroughs and Bush, but overall they have been one of the worst drafting teams in the 90’s and early 00’s.

I have liked their recent drafts though, but we won’t really know until these guys reach the bigs

by NeifiChicken on Jul 29, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

that's actually a success

Greene was decent big league player for 4 years, and could still have some semblance of effectiveness if he can get his mind right. Even though you always hope for mroe in the 1st round, Greene has already outproduced what an average first rounder does

by NeifiChicken on Jul 29, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly. It doesn’t take much to make up the investment. For all of the talk of Mark Prior being a disappointment, his major league contributions were still more than worth the signing bonus.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 29, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

we were talking about how “hyped up” a player was vs what he turned out to be. Khalil Green was massively hyped.

by jctGamer on Jul 29, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I mean, even Burroughs was worth $18.4 mil in his career… he was still a pretty big bust based on expectations.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s worse than that. I used to stay up at night thinking about:

C: Ben Davis
1B: Tagg Bozied
2B: Jake Gautreau
SS: Khalil Greene
3B: Sean Burroughs
LF: Bubba Trammell
CF: Mark Kotsay
RF: Xavier Nady

UNDER-30 ALL-STARS AT EVERY POSITION PANIC PANIC PANIC PANIC

by Grant Brisbee on Jul 29, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

Bubba Trammell

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d start him in RF over Winn right now.

by Grant Brisbee on Jul 29, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

He sure was out of baseball quickly.

Oh, apparently he had clinical depression. :(

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

That sucks. Khalil Greene has very severe anxiety disorder.

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hamilton: Why don’t you get a job Spicoli?
Spicoli: What for?
Hamilton: You need money.
Spicoli: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I’m fine.

My adopted son Matt Downs . Ranked as the 24th best prospect in the Giants farm system by Baseball America !!

by nvsfg on Jul 29, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah! Ben “Dover” Davis! forgot about him.

by jctGamer on Jul 29, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

definitely bad

sadly, still better than the position players we got in that span…which is really a commentary on us

by NeifiChicken on Jul 29, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

part of it is because we kept signing people………. and Bonds played 4ever …

by jctGamer on Jul 29, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

and most of it...

was that we can’t draft hitters and develop them.

Neal could buck this trend, but it’s still early. I don’t count Posey since he was one of the most polished bats in the draft, I give the Giants about as much credit there as I would for taking Lincecum. That was a call any one could have made. Neal, on the other hand, is not

by NeifiChicken on Jul 29, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

9 ppl had the same call and passed on Lincecum.

by jctGamer on Jul 29, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

and 6 of them should put together their resume’s. Lincecum should have been a top 5 pick, I think that was a pretty big consensus across the board. For the him to fall to 10 was really just a gift.

I’ll give the Giants some credit for taking him, as you said, 9 passed, but surely they dont credit for developing him in the 30+ innings he was in the minors. Lincecum would be doing the exact same thing for any team that just let him be

by NeifiChicken on Jul 29, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

oh i don’t doubt LIncecum was a big time talent that didn’t need coaching

Credit is scouting him properly.

by jctGamer on Jul 29, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

eh, maybe

I mean the guy was the most heralded pitcher in college, struck out 16.5/9 threw in the upper 90’s, killer curve and every national publication had him rated in the top 5 (some in the top 2).

Yes, they do deserve credit, but picks like him and Posey are more “how can you f*** this up?” picks than picks I’d give credit for. Polished college players with great stats and ability are the easiest picks to make. Now, this year’s top pick, Zack Wheeler, is one that I will definitely give credit for if he pans out, much like MadBum and Alderson seem to be.

Those are definite picks that you must give credit on

by NeifiChicken on Jul 29, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

do not disagree. I just still have quite a bit of faith in noonan to figure it out and one would have to assume that hes the one thats definitely going pittsburgh’s way if they have their choice.

Cain is Able ...

by Norcalfan10 on Jul 29, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno, it is the Pirates. They seem to like mediocre left-handers, maybe they’ll want Tanner and English

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

IM POOPIN

Possibly included in deal (any two of five):

Brown
Lighter Brown
Kind of Tan
Old Gum
Air

Kurt Ainsworth Roofing and Insulation. Great service since 2005!

by dangjackson on Jul 29, 2009 10:28 AM PDT reply actions  

frangrance included?

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 29, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

how nice

would it be to get Duke involved in that trade? Sure to make up for the big unit being shelved.

Cain is Able ...

by Norcalfan10 on Jul 29, 2009 10:30 AM PDT reply actions  

I’d love to get them to throw one of their random pitchers into the deal (I was hoping for Snell of course, but… ;_;)

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m intrigued.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow #1 in google. Wtg Sadowski and Grant.

Do not meddle in the affairs of GM's, for they are subtle and quick to anger.

by cybermaldonado on Jul 29, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ocarina of Time 4 ever!

Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list and batting .326 in Scottsdale...which I believe has be renamed Rafaelsdale.

by BrianBokake on Jul 29, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is this the Zelda that is fisting the princess?

by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 29, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

BREAKING: GRANT USES OPERA

FIREFOX LOVERS OUTRAGED.

"I can't hit the ball until I hit the bottle!"

by Li on Jul 29, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, I use Firefox. Two things that kill Opera for me:

1. When I use highlight/right-click to search, it doesn’t open the search in new tab/window. I hate that.
2. There’s a ton of sites that don’t work in Opera. That’d be fine if it was easy to figure out the second you went onto the site, but often you’re dicking around with a form field for 20 minutes before realizing that it’s browser shenanigans that are killing you.

by Grant Brisbee on Jul 29, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

BREAKING: STUPID INTERNET RUMOR REFUTED

"I can't hit the ball until I hit the bottle!"

by Li on Jul 29, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Stupid typo, my bad guys

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 29, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was was a wondering...

Do not meddle in the affairs of GM's, for they are subtle and quick to anger.

by cybermaldonado on Jul 29, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bea Arthur

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 29, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I once got a hit on my site from a google search of Fred Lewis Peeing, I don’t know how it happened, but it did.

by xanthan on Jul 29, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

IT WAS FOR PERFECTLY LEGITIMATE MEDICAL REASONS

by Natto on Jul 29, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

athletes foot?

SIgn Many Bats!

by ringleader3 on Jul 29, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

HE WAS ON A BEACH WITH FRED LEWIS AND HE GOT STUNG BY A JELLYFISH OKAY

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Jul 29, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

/shifts nervously

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Was it a GIS?

Proud parent of Frederick Charles Merkle.

by jhiat00 on Jul 29, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Direct search term, I think.

by xanthan on Jul 29, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ha Ha…‘I can’t see shit’

Proud parent of Frederick Charles Merkle.

by jhiat00 on Jul 29, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

BANNED

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

omg that is awesome, seriously lol @ my desk

by microwave donut on Jul 29, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

beef magazine. lol

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 29, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Okay, I’m officially jumping on the ’Don’t like Freddie’.

I reserve the right to deny writing this post if he turns out to be good.

Do not meddle in the affairs of GM's, for they are subtle and quick to anger.

by cybermaldonado on Jul 29, 2009 10:36 AM PDT reply actions  

I like healthy Freddy a whooooole lot.

But it all depends what his status is, and we just don’t know enough yet.

I choose to watch the Giants try to score runs. Not because it is easy, but because it is hard.

by GiantPain on Jul 29, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m going to assume the Giants wouldn’t trade for him if they were worried about his injuries.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

exactly

though don’t put it past sabes.

I choose to watch the Giants try to score runs. Not because it is easy, but because it is hard.

by GiantPain on Jul 29, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

So, slow morning huh?

Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 29, 2009 10:38 AM PDT reply actions  

Oh no, my Indians fan friend is going to be so sad :(

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t be, Knapp Marson and Brown all seem like good players

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 29, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m guessing that is who they gave up

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 29, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jason Knapp, Carlos Carrasco, Jason Donald and Lou Marson

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 29, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

 good trade for Phillies

Knapp is young
Donald is Meh
Carrasco is meh this season
MArson is A decent catcher, but do the indians need one of those? (maybe a precursor to a Victor trade?)

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 29, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Indians have Carlos Santana though, who’s the best catching prospect in baseball this side of Buster Posey

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

great singer to boot

by jctGamer on Jul 29, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Except the singing part. He’s much better playing guitar. ;-)

No, really, I have updated my blog this year: http://skaldheim.livejournal.com/tag/baseball

by Skaldheim on Jul 29, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty ok guitar player.

by deuce deuce on Jul 29, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

He owns a Mexican restaurant in my hometown.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

But marson has moderate success in the bigs

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 29, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

with santana

already aboard, thats peciluar to me as well.

Cain is Able ...

by Norcalfan10 on Jul 29, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

they

needed to land Michael Taylor

Cain is Able ...

by Norcalfan10 on Jul 29, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

how is Carrasco meh this year?

Everything is the same with his compenents at 22 in 3A, only his ERA is inflated due to bad luck.

great for the Indians

by NeifiChicken on Jul 29, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Every one was soo high on him last year, he seems to be more like a 3/4 pitcher than a 1/2

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 29, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

what’s changed?

just the ERA. He’s still a top 2 potential pitcher. Great buy low by the Indians

by NeifiChicken on Jul 29, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

No he is not top 2 starter. He’s been overrated for the past 2 or 3 years. He’s a mid rotation guy at best.

by Hobbes2d on Jul 29, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not even close. They’ll be lucky if he’s like Blanton.

by Hobbes2d on Jul 29, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Blanton is actually pretty good...

but even Blanton was still in AA when he was Carrasco’s age. I’m not saying Carrasco will become a frontline pitcher, but he’s definitely got the promise (also throws about 3-4 mph ffaster than Blanton)

by NeifiChicken on Jul 29, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno, he’s having another really good year.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 29, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I work for the Indians Triple-A team, and am personally thrilled by this!

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 29, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but her favorite players were Garko and Lee and I think she was fond of Francisco.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

its actually

not brown, but donald and carrasco. Knapp, Donald, Carrasco and Marson. I bit underwhelming to me from the Indians view point.

Cain is Able ...

by Norcalfan10 on Jul 29, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t realize that Donald was having such a crap year. That’s an interesting mix of talent, but I would have bet that the Indians could have found a semi-decent pitching staff patch in the offseason and contended next year.

by Grant Brisbee on Jul 29, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno, Shapiro has been pretty bad at finding those.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah he’s especially bad at improving the bullpen.

by Hobbes2d on Jul 29, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Red Sox are going to jump on Halladay now

For cheap now

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

now now now

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure about that, with Marcum and MacGowan coming back, the Jays could see themselves as contenders next year.

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 29, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I won’t doubt that next season. The BJ’s were doing quite well when everyone was healthy earlier this year.

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Now we can test the theory (which will again fail) that all American League pitchers are so much better they would dominate the National League.

Do not meddle in the affairs of GM's, for they are subtle and quick to anger.

by cybermaldonado on Jul 29, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hope he doesn’t start in our series

by superk1ng on Jul 29, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think he does...

On Saturday.

Status: Feels so broke up. Wants to go home. || Still boycotting Johnsonville and Giants souvenirs or ballpark foods for repossessing my K Wall in right field.

by GiantBrass on Jul 29, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

This has to be the busiest deadline in years

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 29, 2009 10:45 AM PDT reply actions  

Mostly because the Giants are actually doing stuff this year.

by Natto on Jul 29, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

WE IS BUYERZ

Proud parent of Frederick Charles Merkle.

by jhiat00 on Jul 29, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

wow

Google search for Sanchez:

"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold" -Dire Straits

by FriscoJoe on Jul 29, 2009 10:50 AM PDT reply actions  

I LOVE TRADES

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 10:50 AM PDT reply actions  

Best argument against a salary cap. Though in the NBA, teams would actually want Edgar Renteria this offseason.

by Grant Brisbee on Jul 29, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

EDGAR RENTERIA'S SHINY EXPIRING CONTRACT

band name

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like it

Now I need to learn how to play an instrument well

The 1st pitch is the best

by Tay on Jul 29, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

WTF

google search for: sanchez

"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold" -Dire Straits

by FriscoJoe on Jul 29, 2009 10:54 AM PDT reply actions  

Jonathan, Freddy, Anibal and Duaner?

by deuce deuce on Jul 29, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also a Gaby Sanchez in Marlins AAA

by BleedBlackNOrange on Jul 29, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hector Sanchez from S-K

Wilber Bucardo: Carlos Silva with a younger brother.

by gianator on Jul 29, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Even more amusing than the pirate last night.

I love the Sanchez’s bio.

Do not meddle in the affairs of GM's, for they are subtle and quick to anger.

by cybermaldonado on Jul 29, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

i was thinking Jonathan and Freddy… No?

"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold" -Dire Straits

by FriscoJoe on Jul 29, 2009 10:57 AM PDT reply actions  

TWSS

Wilber Bucardo: Carlos Silva with a younger brother.

by gianator on Jul 29, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

And If I Stop . . .
Then Tell Me Just What
Will I Do

by jctGamer on Jul 29, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I Feel We Belong

Proud parent of Frederick Charles Merkle.

by jhiat00 on Jul 29, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

banned

Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list and batting .326 in Scottsdale...which I believe has be renamed Rafaelsdale.

by BrianBokake on Jul 29, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Alex Rios

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

BANNED

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dont go there

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 29, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can’t believe you would actually think of such an awful awful thing

by BleedBlackNOrange on Jul 29, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry I that should say cain

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 29, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

BANNED

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

banned

Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list and batting .326 in Scottsdale...which I believe has be renamed Rafaelsdale.

by BrianBokake on Jul 29, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Does not compute

Proud parent of Frederick Charles Merkle.

by jhiat00 on Jul 29, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

outside of Pujols, whatever we want.

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 29, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

No longoria either

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 29, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Appendage connects Lincecum to Eva Longoria

Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list and batting .326 in Scottsdale...which I believe has be renamed Rafaelsdale.

by BrianBokake on Jul 29, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Rays wouldn't give up Longoria for Lincecum?

I mean I know there’s emotional attachment but still…

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by GiantBrass on Jul 29, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh wait is it because of his mega-cheaop contract?

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by GiantBrass on Jul 29, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Look at his contract

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 29, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nah. Longoria’s contract=indentured servitude

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 29, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  


“I want to be your ban hammer”

by ryanmiles on Jul 29, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

too much to fathom

which is why I was slightly intrigued by the idea at some point. Problem is, it’s pretty much impossible, because the value would be so high for anyone to pay.

I had thought up Wallace, Rasmus, Daryll Jones, Jes Todd, and Luke Gegerson, but that’ssort of unprecedented territory

by NeifiChicken on Jul 29, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jason Heyward, Freddie Freeman, Tommy Hanson, Rafeal Soriano and Jordan Schafer would have sounded a lot better to me.

by Hobbes2d on Jul 29, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just to clarify, I am just wondering what kind of epic deal it would take to get Timmy

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 29, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

OT : Good Article to read

http://www.businessinsider.com/arguments-are-overrated-2009-7

People who are good at making arguments overrate the value of arguments. The verbally adroit among us often demand that disputes of many sorts should be decided on the basis of debate. This demand is particularly acute for public policy disputes. The idea is that policy choices should be subject to rigorous public scrutiny and that this should result in the the adoption of the policy for which the best arguments can be marshaled.

by jctGamer on Jul 29, 2009 11:07 AM PDT reply actions  

listening to a bunch of RUSH in hope of helping a deal get made before the game

SIgn Many Bats!

by ringleader3 on Jul 29, 2009 11:08 AM PDT reply actions  

So torturing yourself expedites trades?

Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list and batting .326 in Scottsdale...which I believe has be renamed Rafaelsdale.

by BrianBokake on Jul 29, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

/head asplodes

Proud parent of Frederick Charles Merkle.

by jhiat00 on Jul 29, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

You must be channeling Geddy Lee, because he is 56 today

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am doing this too.

Only with a bunch of Paula Abdul’s “Rush, Rush.”

Kurt Ainsworth Roofing and Insulation. Great service since 2005!

by dangjackson on Jul 29, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Keanu’s best acting work

Original member of the Van Buren Boys

by NuschlerFace on Jul 29, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

runner up: “I know Kung Fu”

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 29, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

“Whoa”

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

“whoa”

Proud parent of Frederick Charles Merkle.

by jhiat00 on Jul 29, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Point Break would like to have a word with you

Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list and batting .326 in Scottsdale...which I believe has be renamed Rafaelsdale.

by BrianBokake on Jul 29, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

….semi jk

Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list and batting .326 in Scottsdale...which I believe has be renamed Rafaelsdale.

by BrianBokake on Jul 29, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lake House

Proud parent of Frederick Charles Merkle.

by jhiat00 on Jul 29, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Day the Earth Stood Still

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I prefer to remember the Schmidt for Hanley rumors

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

I FORGOT ABOUT THOSE OMG

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 29, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

/extreme sadness

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by GiantBrass on Jul 29, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wanted Schmidt for Milledge and Perez...

I don’t know what came of our two picks, but yeah……

by NeifiChicken on Jul 29, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oliver Perez?

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think so...

I don’t remember exactly, I was like 17 at the time though, I had no idea what was what.

Since Alderson became our comp pick, I’m quite pleased Sabes didn’t pull the tirgger on a Milledge (I remember that as a heavy rumor at the time). That being said, I still think Milledge has promise, albeit a lower percentage of materializing it.

I also wanted Chris B Young and Brandon McCarthy as a package for Schmidt, might have looked good in 07, don’t know about now

by NeifiChicken on Jul 29, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I still think trading Lowry for Milledge would have been a good trade.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or Lowry for Edwin Encarnacion. Even with the defense.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 29, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

HE IS NOT CLUTCH!

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

when was that rumoured?

Obviously given hindsight, I’d do it, but it probably would’ve been hard for me to swallow had it come pre-2006 injury vs ATL

by NeifiChicken on Jul 29, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Even with the abysmal peripherals?

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 29, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

he was just never the same post 06 ATL oblique strain

So true. :(

by Hobbes2d on Jul 29, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was during his 2007 season iirc

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Shoulda done it!

No, really, I have updated my blog this year: http://skaldheim.livejournal.com/tag/baseball

by Skaldheim on Jul 29, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not trading Schmidt is my Vietnam

Original member of the Van Buren Boys

by NuschlerFace on Jul 29, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

but we were contenderz….

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 29, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

and that comp pick turned into Tim Alderson

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 29, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Which leads back to a trade for Uggla!

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

True. I still think we could have gotten plenty for him.

Original member of the Van Buren Boys

by NuschlerFace on Jul 29, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm satisfied

LOL at the bums!!!

The 1st pitch is the best

by Tay on Jul 29, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Schmidt for McCarthy LOL

by Hobbes2d on Jul 29, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

I remember when everyone (not here, but on the internets) was very insistent that McCarthy was a better prospect than Cain. :’)

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

McCarthy said Cain was a communist

Proud parent of Frederick Charles Merkle.

by jhiat00 on Jul 29, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s why he never got run support!

The 1st pitch is the best

by Tay on Jul 29, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

truth be told

I wonder how McCarthy’s career would have turned out had he been traded to the NL West rather than TEX.

I wonder the same thing about Joe Francis, if he had been drafted by nearly any other team.

by NeifiChicken on Jul 29, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

he’d probably be a Cy Young candidate in the NL.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey nerds, is anyone using BING?

Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 29, 2009 11:10 AM PDT reply actions  

Microsoft apps suck donkey balls

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, except Office 2007….sort of :-)

My adopted son Matt Downs . Ranked as the 24th best prospect in the Giants farm system by Baseball America !!

by nvsfg on Jul 29, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Really? I hate the new format I can’t find any of the shortcuts from before! i am sure i will figure it out. I just hate change!

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 29, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

You sound like everyone here when McCC went through the new SB Nation transition

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

What do you mean you're taking away our Diaries?

Fanposts sound stupid and Fanshots sound dirty and obscene

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by GiantBrass on Jul 29, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was so pissed!!

When Grant linked to the archive of the old MCC yesterday, I was shocked by how bad it was.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

That said, I do love Access2007

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 29, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d like to punch Excel in the crotch sometimes

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Excel is 100% my bitch. It does what I want, how I want it.

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 29, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

The only thing I really hate is the stupid menu bar. You can’t make it go away without a serious “hack”, and that screws with some of the functions. Oh..and I hate that they removed some key commands and turned them into menu items. My “optional” command menu is freakin huge.

Excel 2007 has some pretty cool VB scripts built in and basically holds commands in memory for auto execution until you close the spreadsheet.

My adopted son Matt Downs . Ranked as the 24th best prospect in the Giants farm system by Baseball America !!

by nvsfg on Jul 29, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

the duplicate functions have drastically reduced the need for me to write and install VBA macros on my coworker’s computers.

I think the biggest improvement was in the style of the charts and pivot tables.

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 29, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

/agrees with oldjacket.
//2007 Pivot Tables rock.
///Charts are just prettier spreadsheets. Give me the data. I’ll decide what to do with it.

My adopted son Matt Downs . Ranked as the 24th best prospect in the Giants farm system by Baseball America !!

by nvsfg on Jul 29, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ah, you don’t have to get out the sock puppets to explain things to your clients.

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 29, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I do, but I just use colored numbers for those guys :-)

My adopted son Matt Downs . Ranked as the 24th best prospect in the Giants farm system by Baseball America !!

by nvsfg on Jul 29, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

/pivot tables all over your ass

by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 29, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

no, but i’m using BONG

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 29, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lulz.

Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list and batting .326 in Scottsdale...which I believe has be renamed Rafaelsdale.

by BrianBokake on Jul 29, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve successfully avoided it so far

Proud parent of Frederick Charles Merkle.

by jhiat00 on Jul 29, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Unfortunatly every time I miss type a web address at work it defaults to Bing (no mod powers on my comp to install firefox)

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 29, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

have we talked about renteria's injury yet?

we needs a whole new middle infield

SIgn Many Bats!

by ringleader3 on Jul 29, 2009 11:10 AM PDT reply actions  

blessing in disguise

by jctGamer on Jul 29, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

im a bit nervous about him gamering it out the rest of the season and getting surgery after teh season… hopefully we get someone and he can just d/l or DFA it

SIgn Many Bats!

by ringleader3 on Jul 29, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sadly Uribe would actually be an upgrade at Short.

Do not meddle in the affairs of GM's, for they are subtle and quick to anger.

by cybermaldonado on Jul 29, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Phillies Trade 4 prospects for Cleff lee and Ben Francisco

check Fanshot

#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum

by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 11:13 AM PDT reply actions  

wait

did everyone already know this?

#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum

by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

No, really, I have updated my blog this year: http://skaldheim.livejournal.com/tag/baseball

by Skaldheim on Jul 29, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

ah, damnit

Sportcenter called it Breaking news

#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum

by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 29, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

ESPN is slow like Asshatfan4Ever

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

ESPN also plays E:60

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 29, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 29, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Can someone post yesterday’s lineup?

Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list and batting .326 in Scottsdale...which I believe has be renamed Rafaelsdale.

by BrianBokake on Jul 29, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I really hope Zito can shut the pirates down

by Giant Voodoo on Jul 29, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

EUGENIO WILL NOT BE PRODUCTIVE

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

BENGIE BATTING CLEANUP!?!?! OMFGBBQ!

Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list and batting .326 in Scottsdale...which I believe has be renamed Rafaelsdale.

by BrianBokake on Jul 29, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

mmmm BBQ……

Proud parent of Frederick Charles Merkle.

by jhiat00 on Jul 29, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

They traded for Cleff Lee too? Now that is truly breaking news

Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 29, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

They traded for Jimmy Cliff

by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 29, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cliff Claven

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=botdmsQilnU

Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list and batting .326 in Scottsdale...which I believe has be renamed Rafaelsdale.

by BrianBokake on Jul 29, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lee Van Cleef is a top10 prospect in my book

Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list and batting .326 in Scottsdale...which I believe has be renamed Rafaelsdale.

by BrianBokake on Jul 29, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

A+ Moustache

Proud parent of Frederick Charles Merkle.

by jhiat00 on Jul 29, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sixth Tool?

Wilber Bucardo: Carlos Silva with a younger brother.

by gianator on Jul 29, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Light tower mustache

Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list and batting .326 in Scottsdale...which I believe has be renamed Rafaelsdale.

by BrianBokake on Jul 29, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Decent beard. With help from coaches can turn this into a nice complement to his moustache.

Proud parent of Frederick Charles Merkle.

by jhiat00 on Jul 29, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

May have to convert to a pencil-thin mustache at the MLB level. Scouts are concerned he cannot stay at the full mustache at the next level.

by out machine on Jul 29, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

The scouts are wrong on that one. That’s a hall of fame mustache.

Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list and batting .326 in Scottsdale...which I believe has be renamed Rafaelsdale.

by BrianBokake on Jul 29, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s the problem with coaches these days. Don’t mess with the kid’s moustache that got him here!

Proud parent of Frederick Charles Merkle.

by jhiat00 on Jul 29, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, no.

They traded for a Clif Bar.

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by GiantBrass on Jul 29, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ahhh, MLB Trade Rumor comments...
Get Sanchy while his value is low from this injury, Guzman for Sanchy straight up get it done Sabean thats what were paying you for

by ryanmiles on Jul 29, 2009 11:18 AM PDT reply actions  

Bochy?

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 29, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

we're paying sabean?

we should get our money back.

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 29, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, no. It says were paying for. Did he get fired already?

Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 29, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought he was just serving his community service hours!

We actually hired him?

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by GiantBrass on Jul 29, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

So. What'd I miss?

emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 29, 2009 11:21 AM PDT reply actions  

Nothing. Everything’s quiet.

by deuce deuce on Jul 29, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

who’s spot in the phillies rotation is lee going to take?

by gswarriors2006 on Jul 29, 2009 11:22 AM PDT reply actions  

#5

"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold" -Dire Straits

by FriscoJoe on Jul 29, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rodrigo Lopez

Former Rockie

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 29, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Terry Mulholland’s.

by oneflapdown on Jul 29, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

is just being a dumbass a bannable offense?

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 29, 2009 11:33 AM PDT reply actions  

thankfully no

Proud parent of Frederick Charles Merkle.

by jhiat00 on Jul 29, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I might have been gone years ago

Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list and batting .326 in Scottsdale...which I believe has be renamed Rafaelsdale.

by BrianBokake on Jul 29, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

If not, what about being a dumbass who supports a different team?

Status: Feels so broke up. Wants to go home. || Still boycotting Johnsonville and Giants souvenirs or ballpark foods for repossessing my K Wall in right field.

by GiantBrass on Jul 29, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought it was a requirement

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 29, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

You get shot for that in some countries

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

What, and risk losing all the entertainment value?

by out machine on Jul 29, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL on the Pirates Wilson/Snell trade ….It’s fun to see a team implode right before my eyes, reminds me of a typical Marlins off season.

Also just wanted to say, PapeLOLbon, that was funny shit yesterday…

Now offering free hugs from Amy G.
Billy Ripken is still a douche bag.

by kbsofaraway08 on Jul 29, 2009 11:39 AM PDT reply actions  

I thought they made out pretty well.

by SeeingStars on Jul 29, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno...

I always feel so bad for the Pirates fans. The Marlins can screw right off for knocking us out of the playoffs twice

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by GiantBrass on Jul 29, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

their city has enough championships right now

by jobrien9 on Jul 29, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's hard for me to care about other sports, especially during the offseason...

although I am starting to get into football. You know the one where you are mainly required to use your feet to advance the ball.

The USMNT are the perfect underdogs! We’ll shock the world!

Status: Feels so broke up. Wants to go home. || Still boycotting Johnsonville and Giants souvenirs or ballpark foods for repossessing my K Wall in right field.

by GiantBrass on Jul 29, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

TMNT > USMNT

Proud parent of Frederick Charles Merkle.

by jhiat00 on Jul 29, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Let fans of some other team feel bad for the Pirates. We can join them after we win a few.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 29, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pirates didn’t do badly at all. Go cruise USSM or the blogs here – Mariner fans aren’t exactly thrilled. Then again, if you want to see true pain just visit the Indians boards. Ouch.

(And the latter is not a good thing for Giants if they end up in wildcard matchup with the Phils.)

by HaroldS on Jul 29, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

C’Mon Phillies, show me your moves!

/unleashes Lincecum

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Phillies counter with Moyer

/stuns Giants offense for 9 innings

McC =(

by SeeingStars on Jul 29, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

/unleashes Zito

//attacks Moyer with Herpes attack

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Courtesy of "Lets go Tribe"

Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list and batting .326 in Scottsdale...which I believe has be renamed Rafaelsdale.

by BrianBokake on Jul 29, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fremont never looked better

Now offering free hugs from Amy G.
Billy Ripken is still a douche bag.

by kbsofaraway08 on Jul 29, 2009 11:41 AM PDT reply actions  

Without the A’s? Oh yeah.

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

One of my all time Favs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlTvSUCCqPo

Now offering free hugs from Amy G.
Billy Ripken is still a douche bag.

by kbsofaraway08 on Jul 29, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

they’re ghostriding in a cult-de-sac!

SIgn Many Bats!

by ringleader3 on Jul 29, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Weak Sauce.

I bet you they’re like Michael Bolton in Office Space.

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ass clowns lol A’s fans

Now offering free hugs from Amy G.
Billy Ripken is still a douche bag.

by kbsofaraway08 on Jul 29, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ghostridin grandma

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBPJTK1YBvs&feature=related

Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list and batting .326 in Scottsdale...which I believe has be renamed Rafaelsdale.

by BrianBokake on Jul 29, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds like the Indians might part with V-Mart now too now that they traded Lee. Boston wants him pretty bad.

Anyone else really scared about who we trade away for Sanchez? Assuming that goes down…

by Hobbes2d on Jul 29, 2009 11:48 AM PDT reply actions  

If it’s anyone from that list posted earlier, I’m not too worried. If it’s something better than that, yes. D:

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah that one list seems fine to me…

Guzman and English or something, by all means Pirates take them please.

by Hobbes2d on Jul 29, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Breaking News

Yankees Cut Off Wang

http://www.babeslovebaseball.com/2009/07/yankees-cut-off-wang.html

Now offering free hugs from Amy G.
Billy Ripken is still a douche bag.

by kbsofaraway08 on Jul 29, 2009 12:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Ed Price of AOL FanHouse reports that the Reds acquired Wladimir Balentien from the Mariners for righty Robert Manuel.

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 29, 2009 12:02 PM PDT reply actions  

relief prospect.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 29, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s no Richard Manuel.

Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list and batting .326 in Scottsdale...which I believe has be renamed Rafaelsdale.

by BrianBokake on Jul 29, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Joel Sherman of the NY Post just tweeted this

Giants definitely getting Freddy Sanchez, a source tells me.

by robertee on Jul 29, 2009 12:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Then again, it’s the New York Post.

by Orwell D. Catt on Jul 29, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

from mlb traderumors

link

2:20pm: SI.com’s Jon Heyman says the Giants are in serious talks for Sanchez. The teams are discussing John Bowker, Kevin Frandsen and Jesus Guzman.

On 5/7, the best part of waking is up LOLDGERS in my cup.

by GameSix on Jul 29, 2009 12:28 PM PDT reply actions  

I’d be thrilled with that (as it means we’d be keeping Pucetas).

But I think it’s important to note that the actual tweet from Heyman says, “Bowker, Frandsen, Guzman 3 of many names being discussed.”

by GrooveGiant on Jul 29, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

unfortunately (fortunately?) i can’t get to twitter from my work comp. thanks for the clarification.

On 5/7, the best part of waking is up LOLDGERS in my cup.

by GameSix on Jul 29, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

no problem, I saw that same quote and it threw me for a loop as well.

by GrooveGiant on Jul 29, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd be okay with that if they threw some money in

I think Frandsen could probably do a similar job to Sanchez, but it’s clear Sabes wont give him the chance. 2 of those 3 for Sanchez and cash would suit me alright

by NeifiChicken on Jul 29, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

idk how confident I am that kevin frandsen could replicate Sanchez…but yeah you’re right there’s no way we’d ever find out on this team. frandsen must’ve kicked sabean’s dog or something? the whole thing is weird to me. he had a decent 07, he displayed an ability to learn (got better as the season went on)…weird.

On 5/7, the best part of waking is up LOLDGERS in my cup.

by GameSix on Jul 29, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

From Jennifer Langosch

Source: Giants to examine Sanchez’s knee Wednesday afternoone; deal is in place if all is OK; would not involve the Bucs receiving any Major League players in return. More shortly.

by robertee on Jul 29, 2009 12:36 PM PDT reply actions  

how short is shortly?!?!
/panic

Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list and batting .326 in Scottsdale...which I believe has be renamed Rafaelsdale.

by BrianBokake on Jul 29, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

does guzman count as a major league player? BOWKER for that matter? FRANDSEN?
/panic

by i wish we were good on Jul 29, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

AMIDOIN IT RITE?
would not involve the Bucs receiving any Major League players in return

Doesn’t that describe 2/3 of the Giants roster?

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Jul 29, 2009 1:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Just updated from Kovacevic (the PG beat writer, Langosch is the MLB.com one) who had heard there was no deal and then heard outside the team there was one:

A high-ranking member of the Pirates’ front office just confirmed — emphatically — that no deal is in place to send Freddy Sanchez to San Francisco.

The official said that there was the framework of a deal in place but that the Giants backed out Monday night upon learning of Sanchez’s MRI. The Giants never ruled out revisiting the original framework, though, and that is the reason they are taking a second look at the knee. The Giants are in a pennant race and need help right away, so Sanchez missing even a week or two would affect matters.

“Right now, there absolutely is no deal,” the official said.

Maybe this explains why I was hearing one thing inside, one thing outside the organization.

Convenient he’s in SF and can get another MRI, so this may actually still happen today.

by HaroldS on Jul 29, 2009 1:17 PM PDT reply actions  

The Mariner’s Adcock traded to the Bucs could be related to Joe Adcock, a power hitting first baseman for the Milwaukee Braves in the 1950’s.

by boogalou on Jul 29, 2009 7:50 PM PDT reply actions  

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