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Son of a bitch. I was supposed to speak to Guzman tomorrow.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 27, 2009 3:40 PM PDT reply actions
This situation has a natural resolution
You’ll be at the ballpark today. He’ll be at the ballpark today. Seems like it all worked out!
GROUGTHINK ALERT
I guess now would be the best time to see just how far MLB Advanced Media LP can take me.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 27, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Nothing can kill the Velez.
I still believe in Bowkermania.
by rightcenterfielder on Jul 27, 2009 3:43 PM PDT reply actions
Also, do the Giants own the Rivercats now? You probably meant Fresno unless the Grizz are playing Sacramento tonight.
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 27, 2009 3:45 PM PDT reply actions
he gets screwed by the 10 day rule once again.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 27, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
It has to be intentional at this point, right? Frandsen might murder Sabean.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.
He’ll have to take a number. this is absurd.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 27, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
What were Jesus and Skeletor doing in Sacto?
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jul 27, 2009 3:48 PM PDT reply actions
LOL WTF IS THIS SHIT?
Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
I guess that sfgiants.com headline
about great defense leading the way, just became past tense (if it was even true). The two worst deensive players in the system. Pitching and defense?
pitching is defense.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 27, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
One little letter
separates ‘the shit’ from the ‘the shits’. Welcome back, Eugenio.
by VidaWantsYourCar on Jul 27, 2009 3:49 PM PDT reply actions
And once again, it’s time to spin…
THE WHEEL OF AAAA “PROSPECTS”
Status: Feels so broke up. Wants to go home. || Still boycotting Johnsonville and Giants souvenirs or ballpark foods for repossessing my K Wall in right field.
Velez is like the Lose A Turn slice
Status: Feels so broke up. Wants to go home. || Still boycotting Johnsonville and Giants souvenirs or ballpark foods for repossessing my K Wall in right field.
FUCK THAT BOWKERMANIA LIVES
Utterly ridiculous. Stupid brass
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 28, 2009 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
DOWN GOES DOWNSIE!
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Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Jul 27, 2009 3:52 PM PDT reply actions
Downs got called up in the Atlanta series right?
Wilber Bucardo: Carlos Silva with a younger brother.
Judgment Day is coming
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by Natto on Jul 27, 2009 3:58 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Sucks for Fransen
I just heard he just put a full tank of gas in his car and got the most recent Twilight book on tape, thinking he would be doing another drive from Fresno.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jul 27, 2009 4:00 PM PDT reply actions
Oh fuck me.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
Reply fail. That was for Melty Face a few posts above, right?
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jul 27, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess that means Uribe to start at second again?
They aren’t going to start Velez at second…. no f’n way?
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Status: Feels so broke up. Wants to go home. || Still boycotting Johnsonville and Giants souvenirs or ballpark foods for repossessing my K Wall in right field.
Uribe and Renteria will start every day now, no matter what. The depth chart behind them is empty.
The 1st pitch is the best
FIXED
The depth chartbehind themis empty.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 27, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
On a positive note…. with Guzman coming up that has to mean we are one step closer to DFAing Richie if/when we need his space on the 40 man roster
Silver lining!
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.
The Giants realize Bowkermania is a lie and EPICGENIO RETURNS!
Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
FIZZLEMANIA
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 27, 2009 4:12 PM PDT reply actions
VALEZ?
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 27, 2009 4:12 PM PDT reply actions
Either way it’s a typo… maybe they are sending Valdez back down? Not sure that that’s even possible but maybe?
I’m sending them the bill for the whole season. and, as she said, it’s fucking huge.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 27, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
It was really fun laughing at the exploits of Omar Minaya and the Mets this afternoon.
But then Sabes and Bochey had to go and trump him with these roster moves.
Well played, gentlemen. Well played.
"He is Tim Lincecum...the Most Interesting Pitcher in the World."
Welcome back to the show, my son!
Guuuuuuzmaaaannn!!!! How awesome would it be if he gets up here and hits this time and provides a good platoon partner with Ishi? Add a little Freddy to the mix and we’d be smelling like a rose!
And my theory is that they’re bringing up Speedy McF*ckup back so they can qualify for an Emmy in the comedy category.
My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman
Oh damn that would be pretty hilarious if this is a joke.
pleasebeajokepleasebeajokepleasebeajokepleasebeajokepleasebeajoke
Status: Feels so broke up. Wants to go home. || Still boycotting Johnsonville and Giants souvenirs or ballpark foods for repossessing my K Wall in right field.
Over/Under on plate appearances for Guzman ...
I’ll set it at 17 ’cause I think Bochey is planning on giving him a long tryout.
LinceCain and pray for rain .... or for someone to take Zito off our hands.
If Captain Pickoff Von Ironglove starts in CF tonight, this could be the most memorable McCovey Night since some guy hit a home run and Hank Aaron appeared on the Jumbotron.
"He is Tim Lincecum...the Most Interesting Pitcher in the World."
Needs to be in the subject line with each word capitalized.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.
GRM impression aside
Admittedly, I don’t really have that much of a problem with the Bowker demotion since we have a bunch of lefty OF. It’s the Velez part that gets me.
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I’m ok with anything keeps Richie on the roster until the end of time.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 27, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Keep Preaching This Truth Brother. One Day It Just Might Sink In. :-)
Seriously though their is really nothing wrong with these moves. Sabes is trying to find lighting in a bottle by continuing the Fresno shuffle with the last couple of 13 man position player roster spots. If these guys perform as bad as so many hear fear they will not be doing any worse then the 2 the are replacing and therefore no loss. On the other hand if we are lucky and do catch lighting in a bottle with one or both of them having hot bats then we have gained alot. These moves are in fact moves that can only make the Giants better in the short hall with almost no downside risk.
All this nashing of teeth is indeed just just flat blind hatred of Brian Sabean.
by giantsrainman on Jul 27, 2009 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
You really don't need to post any more
You’re so predictable that you have nothing to add to your own parody.
/goes to throw darts at the life size effigy of Sabean he carries with him everywhere
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Every Other Post In This Fanshot Has Been Nothing But Raw Emotion.
When I see some facts to support a view that these moves are bad with no upside I will have read my first post supporting this view that is not “blind hatred”.
by giantsrainman on Jul 27, 2009 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
The basic flaw with the “lightning in a bottle” approach (apart from the weirdness of assuming that a hot streak against AAA pitchers will carry over against MLB pitchers) is that hot streaks don’t exist. As far as anyone can tell, it’s just random fluctuation. If you have two hitter of more or less the same talent, the one who hasn’t had a hit since June is just as likely to go on a tear as the one who has gone 14 for his last 30. So chasing hot streaks is doomed; you’re just going to catch the regression.
Now, it’s possible that the Giants aren’t just going by stats. Maybe the coaches have seen something in Velez’s and Guzman’s swing that makes them think these guys are ready to hit in the majors. If that’s the case, they need to explain why they have been so utterly wrong so many times before — about Bowker, about Downs (twice), about Burriss (coming out of spring training), about Rohlinger (last year), and on and one. All of these were guys who had been on a tear before they got called up, and they promptly flopped.
Don't forget Frandsen...
…and Guzman in his first brief callup.
Clearly the answer is MORE BOTTLES!!!
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
These moves are in fact moves that can only make the Giants better in the short hall with almost no downside risk.
GIANTS BRASS walks down the short hall
to get to the short bus
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Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Jul 28, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
But Velez?
Purposely getting him play time on the big club is about like running up the White Flag on the season. Especaily with Torress on the 25 man.
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
Giants Did Catch Some Lightning With Velez's Bomb Today.
by giantsrainman on Jul 28, 2009 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions
And More Lightning With His RBI Double!
by giantsrainman on Jul 28, 2009 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
This would the time he goes all Mike "The Freakin’ Hit King " Benjamin on me now that I lost my patience with him. And you know what? I’ll gladly take it!
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
by daveinexile on Jul 31, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Looks like I was right
It wasn’t an exact prediction. But it was close enough.
I can’t believe they only gave him 30 at bats.
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
I bet Velez starts in CF tonight and bats leadoff.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 27, 2009 4:24 PM PDT reply actions
Fubar means "to smoke" in Spanish right?
I dont get it
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When you're of legal drinking age we'll give you the complete list.
Then you’ll see this season for the SNAFU that it is.
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Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Jul 28, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
bah, baggs called it:
Sabean said Guzman’s name has been discussed, but he added that his defense remains a major concern. And I’d add that the Giants usually try to put their best defensive team on the field when Lincecum pitches.
Eugenio Velez is hitting just below .300, too. If the situation gets dire, he could get another look at second base. But as we know, defense is a teensy bit of a concern with him, too.
SIgn Many Bats!
The Mayor makes it voir dire.
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Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Jul 28, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
oh god
he’s going to start at second tonight, isn’t he?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
the Giants usually try to put their best defensive team on the field when Lincecum pitches
The problem in a nutshell, chapter CLXIV. The Giants need their best defensive team the least when Lincecum is pitching. They should save the best fielders for Zito & Sadowski starts.
I like the idea of trying to win...
when we have a chance to win.
Status: Feels so broke up. Wants to go home. || Still boycotting Johnsonville and Giants souvenirs or ballpark foods for repossessing my K Wall in right field.
Not to speak for Evan, but I believe the point would be that since Lincecum strikes out a lot of batters you’ll have fewer balls in play, so good fielders have less value. That would be the time to use worse fielders who are better hitters, in order to shore up the offense.
Exactamundo. You always have to find the right balance between offense and defense — when Lincecum’s pitching, offense becomes more important because the fielders just won’t have as much to do. With Sadowski, the opposite.
If you have a pitcher who gives up more batted balls (and thus hits and therefore runs) don’t you need a good offense too? Really you need a team that can hit and field at all times, but that is like wishing for a beer-making unicorn on your birthday.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jul 27, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
A team that can hit at all times.
“DE PLANE , BOSS! DE PLANE!”
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Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Jul 28, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Quick check of minor league splits … Velez is hitting .333 in July. And Guzman is hitting .400!
So there you have it. They Are Swinging Hot Bats Right Now.
Big deal, so was Bowker before they brought him up.
I remember we were told “The new and improved Bowkermania, now with plate discipline! Watch him draw walks! Watch him hit! He’s back and he’s hot.”
Horse Hockey!
Because Minor League stats translate to Major League success for the Giants
[breaks down sobbing]
Status: Feels so broke up. Wants to go home. || Still boycotting Johnsonville and Giants souvenirs or ballpark foods for repossessing my K Wall in right field.
I was going to eat dinner tonight, but now I’d rather get drunk on an empty stomach.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
I’d like to apologize in advance for giving you a free ticket to tonight’s game. Really, I should be paying you to watch this.
"He is Tim Lincecum...the Most Interesting Pitcher in the World."
Two years in a row!
It’s like you really hate me or something. And all I did was explode your head that one time.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
*clank*
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
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--Daisy Owl
Proper form , people.
– clank –
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by victor frankenstein on Jul 27, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess I’m just glad they didn’t dump Lewis and Schierholtz too.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Be happy for small favors
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
Tonight’s lineup:
CF Velez
LF Guzman
RF Lewis
SS Molina
3B Ishikawa
1B Rowand
C Schierholtz
2B Sandoval
I just saw the first 2 and realized that Bochy might do this
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FWIW
I had to email my media contact in Fresno to get the 411 and he hasn’t yet heard anything concrete on Guzman.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 27, 2009 4:31 PM PDT reply actions
Velez + defense + baseball I.Q.
= Torres. Why is it necessary to have Torres light on this team over…………..anybody?
Who?
Status: Feels so broke up. Wants to go home. || Still boycotting Johnsonville and Giants souvenirs or ballpark foods for repossessing my K Wall in right field.
Have you seen Valez's new video game?
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jul 27, 2009 5:00 PM PDT reply actions
Is there any point to any of these moves? Does it even make a trade roster fit easier in some way or is it just another exercise in absurdity?
It might be because
Velez is Switch
Uribe is Right, Downs is Right, Frandsen is Right, Burriss is hurt.
They might just be looking for a lefthanded bat at second against lefties. Not saying I agree with it, but that might be what they are thinking.
Id personally perferm Brock Bond over Velez. Switch hitter currently hitting .352.
To paraphrase Sen. Lloyd Bentsen:
If Eugenio Velez is the answer, it must be a damned peculiar question.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
by EliminateMe on Jul 27, 2009 5:17 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
/Velez bobbles ball, clumsily throws to first
/Ball hits Guzman in the face
Judgment Day is coming
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Father said to his Servants
Go and kill the fatted calf
Invite all the friends and relatives
My son’s come home at last
"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"
by The Gene Hackman on Jul 27, 2009 5:48 PM PDT reply actions
Torres CF
Winn RF
Sandoval 3B
Molina C
Renteria SS
Guzman 1B
Velez LF
Uribe 2B
Is this a joke? How do they keep managing to put in worse and worse line-ups every day?
Lincecum has got to be glaring at the “Velez – LF” section of the lineup. That shit cost him an ERA title.
This is another joke lineup, right?
Velez in left? Does Bochy realize that being a switch hitter isn’t the same thing as hitting well against lefties?
Because left-handed hitting Schierholtz outhits switch-hitting Velez against left handed pitching in pretty much any comparison you choose.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
To All The Haters, Take Your Blinders Off.
Guzman was just a stop gap for Ryan Garko and i am betting Velez is just a stop gap for Freddie Sanchez and/or Josh Willingham.
Seriously?
You think the Giants called Guzman up to start one game against a lefty? They couldn’t run Aurilia out there instead? And they were so sick of Matt Downs they couldn’t keep him around another, what, four days until the trade deadline?
Is there any move the Giants have made all year that anyone could criticize without receiving your “blinded by hate” shtick? Or can Sabean do no wrong in your eyes?
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
by EliminateMe on Jul 28, 2009 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Aurilia Is Not Eligable To Come Off The 15 Day DL Yet.
Know what you are talking about or stfu.
by giantsrainman on Jul 28, 2009 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions
You didn’t answer any of my other questions, Mr. You Are All Blinded By Hate And I Am The Only Objective One.
Is there any legitimate criticism to be made of the Giants front office in your eyes?
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
It’s a bit late for this discussion but i’m not overly bothered by the moves. Bowker doesn’t really make sense on the roster with the other LH outfielders we have whereas Guzman is more useful as a RH 1B. It’s superfluous now with Garko coming though.
I’m not great fan of Velez but not that bothered by him coming up in place of Downs. I just can’t get worked up about swapping a couple of poor players for each other even if it’s bizarre given Downs has only just come back up. I’m guessing the reason was they wanted additional cover in the outfield with Rowand & Schierholtz nursing injuries.
Proud parent of Waldis Joaquin!
That's all true...
…but Bowker was just as redundant when they brought him up, and Downs just as unlikely to be a big league hitter.
It just seems like the way they’ve managed the last 2 roster spots this year, none of the young guys has gotten enough playing time to really get a fair evaluation, and a high-pressure situation for them is made even more so by knowing that 10 bad ABs will buy them a ticket back to Fresno. Meanwhile the Giants have gotten no more production from Frandsen or Downs than they would have if they’d just kept Burriss.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
True, although Bowker was mainly called up as we had the extra roster spot (due to not needing the 5th starter) and was aiming to provide an offensive lift as he was in form. That always struck me as a short term measure that was going to have to be adressed in the end & it’s been addressed now.
You’re right though, they’ve chopped and changed in a few areas so often that it’s been very puzzling & have been trying to catch lightning in a bottle rather than having any conviction in their decisions.
Proud parent of Waldis Joaquin!
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