Dodgers Suck & Trading for Vmart & Lee??

by cazzuno on Jul 26, 2009 2:31 PM PDT Comment 39 comments

Ok guys MLBTR has the f'in dodgers trying to trade for both Vmart & Lee. Billingsley/Kershaw, & Loney plus minor leaguers are being mentioned. Obviously Sabeans doesn't have the cajones to pull off a trade like this but I might be ok with that cuz it will probably cost a massive package like MadBum, Posey + much more

I am semi-ok with the trade expecially if the deal includes Kershaw, Billingsley, and Loney. Essentially they would break up one of the best young teams for two-three (hopefully) years of two very good older players. What do you guys think? Obviously this makes the freaking Dodgers WS contenders but even with that trade I dont know if it puts them over the top...and if it does i know a great Voodoo witch doctor

link... Dodgers trading for Lee and Vmart

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Dodgers Trading For V-Mart & Lee? Possible options are...

Cry, this makes dodgers WS front runners for years

14 votes

Laugh at Dodgers, this kills the team chemistry for this yr & mortgages future core

117 votes

Sabes! Throw in a package of MadBum, Posey + entire AAA Fresno at the Indians

4 votes

Sabes kicks the tires for AJ Pierzynski & Shea Hillenbrand

15 votes

Does absolutely nothing....

30 votes

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Rosenthal printed a retraction. He said both teams denied this trade. The Dodgers are interested in Lee though.

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by rxmeister on Jul 26, 2009 2:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

already shot down by both teams....

denial all the way around…

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by Big Country on Jul 26, 2009 2:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Bummer

I would have loved for them to ship Billingsly and kershaw to AL.

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by The Thrill on Jul 26, 2009 2:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

+1

Kershaw is scary

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by shikantaza on Jul 26, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That would’ve been a really idiotic trade for LA

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by Useful_Idiot on Jul 26, 2009 3:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I would love for that trade to go through

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by shikantaza on Jul 26, 2009 3:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Trade rumor rule #1:

If it comes from Rosenthal, ignore it. Dude knows nothing.

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by Li on Jul 26, 2009 3:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

+1. I think teams just feed him stuff as trial balloons.

by HaroldS on Jul 26, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Really? I think he’s the most reliable of any of the reporters who focus on rumors.

by Dan from NM on Jul 26, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think everyone hates the Dodgers so much it affects their common sense. That trade would be better for Cleveland in the long run, but it probably makes the Dodgers world series favorites for the next two years. Sort of like when they got Manny and everyone thought it would hurt team chemistry.

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by rxmeister on Jul 26, 2009 3:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Would it really? V-Mart is an upgrade at first, but not really a superlative first baseman and I don’t see Lee over Billingsley or Kershaw being a big enough difference to make up for the service time. It would probably make them better in the short term, yes, but not some unstoppable powerhouse.

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by jponry on Jul 26, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

unless the Phillies pick up Roy Halladay, the Dodgers would have to be the favorites. Maybe not in the Series against the Yankees, but certainly to get there.

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by rxmeister on Jul 26, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, but it hurts their future, which is what the Giants are shooting for. Billingsley or Kershaw will be better than Lee in the next couple years, and both guys will be aging and free agents.

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by CB30 on Jul 26, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Is Lee even better than Billingsley right now though?

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by BrianBokake on Jul 26, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

no

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by WTF on Jul 26, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think he is

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by Azmanz on Jul 26, 2009 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

He is better but is he significantly better enough this season (and next) to warrant the loss of Billingsley in the future years?

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by jponry on Jul 26, 2009 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

c’mon. The Dodgers aren’t putting Billingsley in that deal, he’s one of the top pitchers in the league already. All the benefits of getting Lee would be cancelled out if they put Billingsley in the deal. They might offer Kershaw, but even then I think they would try to give them something else.

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by rxmeister on Jul 26, 2009 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

If they offer either they are being shortsighted and dumb. Lee isnt a big enough upgrade this year and next to make the loss of Kershaw or Billingsley worth it.

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by CB30 on Jul 26, 2009 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

He’s in the AL which means he’s a million percent better.

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by groug on Jul 26, 2009 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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by Natto on Jul 26, 2009 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Go back to fangraphs!

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by BrianBokake on Jul 26, 2009 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

They should be the favorites already. And while Martinez would be an offensive upgrade over Loney his bat really isn’t enough to be a particularly impact 1B. And I don’t know that Lee would give them much of an upgrade over Kershaw right now, much less the future considerations. They’re much better off keeping both for the long run. AFter all, after the long season even great pitchers are frequently too tired by playoff time to be as dominating as they are over the course of the year. And truly craptacular ones can suddenly go through a lucky dominating stretch (lest we forget: Jeff Weaver).

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by Roger on Jul 26, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs