minor lines, 7/25/09
by steve S on Jul 26, 2009 12:54 PM PDT
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PrintHighlights from the Giants' farm: (a) Ramon Ortiz allowed just an unearned run in 7.0 IP; (b,c,d) Daryl Maday, Ben Snyder, and Waldis Joaquin combined for a thirteen-inning shutout; (e) Andrew Biery had 3 HRs; (f) Vladimir Frias reached base five times; and (g, h) Ehire Adrianza and Eugenio Velez each had three hits, including a double. Honorable mention for a top prospect: (i) Buster Posey had a double, single, and a walk.
AAA: Fresno defeated Reno 9-2
Fresno: 2B Eugenio Velez: 3 for 5, 2B, GiDP, E
Fresno: C Buster Posey: 2 for 4, 2B, BB, E
Fresno: 1B Jesus Guzman: 3 for 5, E
Fresno: LF Joe Borchard: 2 for 5, HR
Fresno: 3B Ryan Rohlinger: 1 for 4, HR, BB, SO
Reno: C Chris Snyder: 0 for 4, 2 SO
Fresno: RHP Ramon Ortiz: 7.0 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 3 BB, 3 K
Fresno: LHP Alex Hinshaw: 1.0 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 K
Reno: LHP Travis Blackley: 3.0 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 1 K--2 HR
Velez and Guzman each had three of the Grizzlies' fifteen hits. Posey also reached base three times It was his second multi-hit game in eight PCL games. Borchard had his 10th HR and Rohlinger his 9th HR. The Diamondbacks' Snyder had an oh-fer in his fifth rehab game.
Three Grizzlies pitchers allowed only a couple unearned runs as the their defense committed four errors. Ortiz has been pitching very well as a starter. He had his third striaght start of 7.0 IP. His stats in eight starts are 44 H, 10 BB, and 37 K in 45.0 IP with a 2.80 ERA. Hinshaw threw 13 of 17 pitches for strikes. Blackley had an abbreviated start against his former team.
AA: Connecticut defeated New Britain 1-0 (13 innings)
Connecticut: 2B Brock Bond: 2 for 5, BB, SO
Connecticut: SS Brandon Crawford: 2 for 6, 2 2B
Connecticut: RHP Daryl Maday: 7.0 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 1 K
Connecticut: LHP Ben Snyder: 4.0 IP, 1 H, 2 BB, 4 K--1 BB
Connecticut: RHP Waldis Joaquin: 2.0 IP, 1 H
Crawford's 14th and 15th doubles, which were the Defenders' only XBHs, got his AVG back up to .236. Bond reached base three times.
Three Defenders pitchers--Maday, Snyder, and Joaquin--combined for the thirteen-inning shutout. Alough he had just 1 K, it was otherwise Maday's most effective start in some time. His K/IP ratio is barely above 0.50, but his GO/AO ratio remains above 2.00. In eighteen starts, he has a 3.66 ERA. With six scoreless innings, Snyder and Joaquin improved their respective ERAs to 1.98 and 2.88.
A+: San Jose lost to Stockton 4-1
San Jose: SS Brian Bocock: 1 for 3, BB
San Jose: LF Thomas Neal: 0 for 4, 2 SO
San Jose: RF Tyler Graham: 2 for 3, SB
Stockton: CF Grant Desme: 2 for 4, 2 HR, SO
San Jose: LHP Clayton Tanner: 6.0 IP, 4 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 1 BB, 8 K--4 HR
San Jose: RHP Mike Musgrave: 1.2 IP, 1 H, 3 K
Stockton: LHP Carlos Hernandez: 7.2 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 6 K
Aside from the 4 HRs, Tanner actually had a very good start, facing the minimum eighteen batters in six innings with 8 K. Of course, the 4 HRs are more than just an aside. He has now allowed 15 HRs this year in 93.0 IP. He has improved his K/BB ratio over the course of the season, with a 6.00 K/BB ratio in his last eight starts.
Graham and Bocock each reached base twice, with the rest of the Giants' offense limited to two singles. Even the red-hot Neal had an oh-fer with a couple strikeouts. The Athletics' Desme hit two of the Ports' four solo HRs. The 23-year-old selected in the second round two years ago and who basically missed all of last season, now has 11 HRs in 30 Cal League games and 22 HRs for the year. For the year, he is hitting .272/.342/.547 through 371 AB. Musgrave struck out three of the six batters he faced. Hernandez, who began the year in the upper minors as a 22-year-old, had one of his better starts of the year, but his ERA remains above 4.50.
A-: Augusta defeated Kannapolis 11-4
Augusta: 2B Vladimir Frias: 4 for 5, HBP
Augusta: C Johnny Monell: 3 for 5
Augusta: SS Ehire Adrianza: 3 for 4, 2B, SO
Augusta: RHP Mike Loree: 6.0 IP, 6 H, 4 R, 2 ER, 0 BB, 4 K
Augusta: LHP Ryan Verdugo: 2.0 IP, 2 BB, 4 K
Augusta: RHP Edwin Quirarte: 1.0 IP
While playing the three most demanding positions defensively, Adrianza, Frias and Monell combined for ten of the GreenJackets' eighteen hits, raising their respective AVGs to .270, .250, and .283.
Loree got his W-L record above .500 at 7-6. Verdugo struck out four of the eight batters he faced. Quirarte pitched a perfect 9th inning.
ssA: Salem-Keizer defeated Yakina 9-8
Salem-Keizer: CF Caleb Curry: 2 for 4, 3B, 2B, SH
Salem-Keizer: DH Andrew Biery: 3 for 3, 3 HR, BB
Salem-Keizer: C Eliezer Zambrano: 1 for 1, HR
Salem-Keizer: RHP Javier Hernandez: 5.0 IP, 7 H, 4 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 4 K--1 WP, 1 BK
Salem-Keizer: RHP Andrew Bowlin: 0.0 IP, 3 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB--1 HR
Salem-Keizer: RHP Jose Casilla: 1.0 IP, 1 H, 2 K
Biery (22nd rounder) had perhaps the best game of any Giants minor league hitter this year, with his solo HRs leading off the 2nd, 6th and 8th innings. Although he had had just 1 HR previously this year, he had been swinging a red-hot bat, with his pro line now reading .402/.458/.589 through 107 AB. Curry added two more XBH with his 1st triple and 3rd double, but his AVG remains below .230. Zambrano, who entered the game defensively in the 8th inning, homered in his only AB--his 1st HR in 22 NWL games last year and 21 NWL games this year.
Hernandez has a 6.00 ERA in five NWL starts. After Bowlin allowed the first four batters to reach in the 9th inning, Casilla struck out two of the next four batters for his 6th save. Casilla has a 1.32 ERA.
R: Giants lost to Angels 3-2 (14 innings)
Scottsdale: DH Jesse Shriner: 2 for 6, 2 2B, 2 SO
Tempe: RF Randal Grichuk: 0 for 6, HBP, 4 SO
Scottsdale: RHP Cameron Lamb: 2.0 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 4 BB, 1 K
Scottsdale: RHP Audy Santana: 3.0 IP, 1 H, 3 K
Scottsdale: RHP Rafael Cova: 1.0 IP, 3 K
Shriner had his 7th and 8th doubles. Grichuk, one of the Angels' first round draft picks this year, had the oh-fer with the sombrero. The 17-year-old is hitting .298/.328/.439 through his first 114 AB.
Lamb has been the rookie Giants' best starter this year, but yesterday issued four walks and was limited to two innings. Santana, a 22-year-old who was in the Cubs' organization a year ago, faced the minimum nine batters in the 3rd, 4th and 5th innings. Cova struck out all three batters he faced as he continues his rehab.
DSL: Giants lost to Blue Jays 3-2
Dominican: Rey Duran: 2 for 4, 2B, SO
Dominican: RHP Kendry Flores: 6.0 IP, 5 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 9 K--1 WP
Duran (19.11 y.o.) had two hits, including his fifth double, to raise his AVG to .263 through 160 AB. A year ago he had a .179 AVG in 67 AB. Flores' (17.8 y.o.) ninth pro start was his best yet, including a career-high 9 K and 6.0 IP. His stats are now 29 H, 16 BB, and 38 K in 42.0 IP with a 2.36 ERA.
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went to my first sj giants game saturday
Weird start for Tanner. First pitch of the game, home run. First pitch in the second, home run. 2nd pitch in the fourth, home run. At the same time, when he threw the breaking ball down, he was getting a bunch of swing throughs and having success. Topped out at 89mph from what I saw, although the radar gun stopped showing speeds after a few innings. He doesn’t have enough velocity to be able to leave the fastball up in the zone – that’s what caused some of the homers, it seemed. I have to say, they got out in a hurry. All pulled to left or left center.
While Neal’s day doesn’t look so good, I was still impressed. He clearly has some work to do, but he’s got plenty of time, and he really looks like the kind of guy who becomes a big leaguer with power. His first at bat resulted in a hard-hit fly to right center, IIRC. Looking forward to seeing him in the majors.
Overall, it was a lot of fun. The park is small so everyone’s really close to the field, which was nice.
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How did Carlos Hernandez look for Stockton? He is a local guy so I am curious if he will make it to the big time soon
a few things I remember
The few innings they showed the velocity, it was around 88-89. He seemed to have pretty good control. I’m not sure what kind of breaking pitches he threw, but they didn’t seem to get as many swing throughs as Tanner’s did. There were some hard hit balls, but not very many, and the hits weren’t all crushed either – Bocock’s rbi single broke his bat. He wasn’t helped out by the stockton defense though, I think they made like 4 errors or so.
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Sounds like Rojas has too predictable a pattern of calling pitches. Consistent first pitch fastballs is where the whole swing at the first pitch philosophy comes from. If you know what you’re getting, and it’s what can be hit, why not swing?
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by BruteSentiment on Jul 26, 2009 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Verdugo
Even if I didn’t go to high school with the guy in Lake Stevens, WA, it be hard not to notice that the lefty has been pretty damn good so far in his young career.
Don't play a dangerous game.
Call ’em all up, looks like the Giants have just given up lately
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If Velez keeps on hitting they’re going to bring him up for Downs. Fun…
"I can't hit the ball until I hit the bottle!"
by Li on Jul 26, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Dominguez again
Chris Dominguez was 2 for 4 with his sixth homerun for Salem-Keizer, I guess it’s easy to miss when someone hits three in one game. He’s tied for second in the league in homeruns, and most of the guys he’s tied with have twice as many atbats.
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I know nothing about Biery
Is he even a prospect?
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Quoting the draft review
22. Drew Biery, 3B, Kansas State, #657 overall, 6’0’’/205: Biery was a college senior that best profiles as an organizational utility infielder. He doesn’t have pro size or pro tools, and he’s already 23. As expected, he signed quickly and is doing well in the Northwest League, hitting .363/.416/.425 in 80 ABs. DOB: 5/14/86. Signing bonus: Unknown.
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by Li on Jul 26, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Drew Biery
He’s old for S-K (he turned 23 in May), but he has scorched the league from his 1st game onward as one would expect for a gifted hitter in an underage league. His K ratio (< 10%) is great, and he has about a 1:1 K/BB ratio – so he has good discipline and a good eye. He also has the prototypical body for a 3B – 6’2", 215 lb.
He also seems to be a real professional hitter. A good example of this would be what he did last night. Yes, the 3 HRs were impressive, but even more impressive was his progression. He hit the first one out in LF, the 2nd in left-center, and the 3rd in RF. Most young guys would get homer-happy after hitting 2 HRs in one game. After that they would be muscling up and trying to pull every pitch over the fence. But not Biery. When he went up for his 4th AB (he also walked in the 4th with a runner on 1B and 1 out) he took what the pitcher gave him and hit it out of the park over the RF wall. There are a lot of batters in the majors right now that don’t have the discipline to do that (many of them in SF unfortunately).
One note of caution is his 7 errors in only 29 games, but that doesn’t necessarily means he’s a hack at 3B. I would like to see him sent to Augusta ASAP (to replace Culberson!) – that way Chris Dominguez can get the majority of starts at 3B for S-K.
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trade Neal before his value plummets any further!
by TimLincecumIsGod on Jul 26, 2009 5:50 PM PDT reply actions
Bond seems to be doing pretty well...
is he not really considered a prospect because of his age?
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Well, I consider him a prospect...
The age doesn’t bother me. 23 in the Eastern League isn’t unusually old.
However, his lack of matching his on-base percentage and hitting with either slugging or base stealing does hurt his status more than a bit.
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by BruteSentiment on Jul 26, 2009 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Solid.
Not spectacular. But not too terrible, either. He still has some things to work on, but he won’t be a huge liability there.
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by BruteSentiment on Jul 26, 2009 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Bill Mueller?
Doesn’t that pretty well describe Bill Mueller’s game? He had a pretty nice career – even won an AL batting title. And he was as slow as molasses. Bond has a horrible steal percentage, but he has a high number of steal attempts, which tells me he isn’t slow. He must either be just a shade too slow, or he can’t read pitchers and so he gets terrible jumps (like Velez). If it’s the former then they should just shut him down and tell him to stop stealing, but if it’s the latter then they should continue to try to learn the craft while he’s in the minors.
To get back on point, IMO he should be considered an above-average 2B prospect. If Bond can hit around .300 with an OBP over .400, and slug in the high 300’s, and play above average D, then he’d be a god-send at 2B for us in SF – even if he never steals a base. Normally I would say that AA stats don’t translate well to the majors, but Bond is putting up excellent numbers (.348/.442/.853) while playing half his games at Dodd – which makes PetCo Stadium look like a hitter’s paradise. His K rate is quite acceptable (< 13%) and his K:BB is fine at 1:1.
The one big thing we can’t judge just by looking at stats is his D. He has 9 errors in 85 games, which seems OK for AA, but we don’t know what his range is like and how well he turns 2.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Mueller had a little bit more power, not much. Although he never put up anything as anemic as Bonds .335 SLG at San Jose last year. But it’s not a bad comp — although you have to remember Mueller came up with a plus glove at 3B.
Possibly though, the big difference is/was opportunity. Would Mueller have gotten the opportunity to have his major league career had Matt Williams not missed the second half of a season going nowhere, with lame duck GM and all, allowing Billy a totally pressure free 60 games or so in the majors to show what he could do. And then, after Wiliams was traded, they brought Mark Lewis in to be the starting 3B even though Mueller had posted a .330/.401/.415 line, but fortunately Lewis kinda stunk, allowing Mueller to grab a starting job and hold onto it.
Timing and opportunity are everything to fringy prospects.
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I think you’ll have to give Bond a pretty good chance of lucking into a good situation in terms of timing and opportunity. Looking at our infield now, the only keeper I see (a la Matt Williams) is Pablito at 3B. 2B looks quite weak and the prospect pool is very, very shallow. If Bond can put up similar numbers in Fresno next year (and why shouldn’t he because it’s much more of a hitter’s paradise compared to Dodd) then, barring a trade or FA signing, he should get a clean shot in SF by the end of the year. And I don’t see Noonan or Gilaspie pushing him out any time soon.
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Possible. But I’d guess that before next season starts management will be forced to go out and make some dramatic moves to improve the every day lineup. So a trade or FA does seem the most likely direction. After that, dear god, is the return of Emmanuel.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
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23 in AA isn't that bad
but. he doesn’t seem to be much of a baserunner and he has very little power, though he is slugging over .400 this year. Not sure about his D, though. The guy just seems to hit though
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 26, 2009 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I think you actually have to SEE someone play, and not just look at their stats.
by flyonthewall on Jul 26, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
right
b/c seeing a guy a few times makes all the difference.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 27, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Minor League Splits has this tool that corrects for “luck,” i.e. his unsustainable BABIP. This puts Bond’s numbers at .299/.399/.356, which is still kind of interesting, though generally the prognosis for powerless hitters who depend on walks is not good.
I’d take that right now at 2B in SF. Also, how can you say that he “depends on walks” when he’s actually hitting .348 and only walking < than 13% of the time – putting him only in the middle of the pack in the EL? Oh, wait, I see what you’re doing. Looking at his walk rate through the prism of our current SF Giants team would qualify him for that label.
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Ben Snyder
Seeing him throw in Connecticut was not overwhelming, but I don’t think it can be understated about the season he’s having. It doesn’t look good considering he’s moved from the rotation to the bullpen, but he has quite the numbers. Most notably is his 72 2/3 innings, which is very, very high for a reliever. He seems to be being groomed for a long relief role, with three appearances of four innings or more in the last ten games.
That’s not to say that there’s not some worries. Snyder has a number of splits, such as a .269 average against RHH and a .137 average against LHH. He also has 20 walks against 21 strikeouts with RHH, with 8 walks and 50 strikeouts against LHH. However, he has spent enough time facing both types with his extended innings, and has maintained his success so far.
Snyder’s M.O. in his career has been shining at the start of a season, and then getting a midseason promotion and struggling. One has to wonder if a move to Fresno would result in the same thing.
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Buster Posey raising that OBP
0-0, 3BB so far with maybe one more PA left.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 26, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Clearly he is not ready for the big leagues yet. Takes too many pitches.
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