Post-Game Recap: Braves Donate Final Game of Series to Charity
by Grant Brisbee on Jul 23, 2009 1:16 PM PDT
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PrintOther than every game in which he's given up multiple earned runs, Zito's been a godsend for this team.
Zito had another strong start, though it's hard to get too excited about a six-walk outing. But Zito's still worth a major league roster spot, and he has been since he's been a Giant. Releasing him -- while it would be a spiffy, head-on-a-pike/ornamental kind of move -- never made baseball sense. It's hard to remember that during the games he's handing out complimentary runs, so today feels like a good time to revisit that point.
If other teams commit errors at crucial times over the next fifty games, the Giants have a shot to make some noise in this playoff race.
Last point: I think it's ridiculous that AAA rules prohibit pitchers from throwing low-and-in sliders to left-handed hitters. It's an archaic, unnecessary rule, and it doesn't help when teams want to evaluate their own prospects. Like, oh, John Bowker. There's absolutely no way he's ever seen a slider at his back foot, and that's not fair to him or the team when he reaches the majors.
edit: Upon further review, it seems like I was a little too "meh" about Zito's performance. A lot of walks, sure, but he could have crumpled under the pressure at any point. And there had to have been a lot of pressure on this start. Bully for you, Zito. Bully.
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wait. we won?
I got out and run some errands and all heaven breaks loose.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 23, 2009 1:17 PM PDT reply actions
that's because Juan Uribe is no longer on the White Sox
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 23, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
D:
emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 23, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I died a little inside.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 23, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
“that’s because Juan Uribe is no longer on the White Sox "….
Speaking of Uribe, watching him swing the bat today makes me kinda wonder if the dude is legally blind!!
"Buy High-Sell Low"--The Brian Sabean Method Of Trading
by Mordy From Monsey on Jul 23, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Everyone watching it downstairs went crazy when it happened. I just muttered, “Fuck you, Juan Uribe.”
Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
by Zetsuboushita on Jul 23, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I noticed you’re a fan of Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels. That’s my favorite movie!
Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
by Zetsuboushita on Jul 23, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
This road trip has thus far been very painful to watch. I think I can feel myself developing kidney stones and gray hairs at the same time. I for one willingly expect a thorough rape of Colorado
Cy Lincecain FTW
The real story here is THE GIANTS WON A GAME
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
What
emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 23, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
The rockies just acquired Indains reliever Rafael Betancourt for some Single A pitcher….looks like some teams like to improve themselves
Per Henry Schulman
I’m also told that a Washington Nationals scout made a special trip to Norwich, Conn., to watch the Giants’ Double-A team.
I’m not going to take the leap and say the Giants are focusing on left-handed first baseman Nick Johnson, because nobody has told me that. The Nats have other parts a contender might want, including Adam Dunn and lefty relievers Joe Beimel and Ron Villone.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/indexn?blogid=22#ixzz0M7IEv2NG
LOL is he still alive?
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Jul 23, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
To be honest, I always liked him just because he seemed like such a hard luck sorta guy. Him being the token pick for the Nats in the all-star game a couple of years ago kinda made me a little sad.
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Jul 23, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
somebody wants Ron Villone?
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Oh crap we're gonna trade for Villone.
That would just be such a Sabean thing to do.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
Willingham
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 23, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd be okay with that....
as long as we didn’t give up a ton to get him. He’s been solid this year with the bat, though I think I remember hearing that his defense was pretty shoddy.
by The Double Deuce on Jul 23, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
But he gets homers and walks
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
I look forward to everyone suddenly wondering why our pitchers ERAs are going up.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
It's okay as long as our runs scored are going up at a faster rate
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
I’m sure that would be the case any more
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
I assume it will be due to the fact that they collectively forgot how to win.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
BECAUSE OF THAT DASTARDLY ADAM DUNN’S NEGATIVE INFLUENCE!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
lol dastardly
I am picturing Snidely Whiplash
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 23, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Dunn just tied Matt Cain to the train tracks and twirled his mustache.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
“Curses. Foiled again in my pursuit to catch a batted ball.”
NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Jul 23, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d kinda be pissed if we traded for him, since we coulda had him for free in the off-season.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
we would still have had to pay him
Adam Dunn got to get paid, son
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Paying is fine. Giving up players in exchange is another thing altogether.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
Josh Willingham would be a decent fit on our left-handed-heavy team.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
by rotorueter on Jul 23, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
meh
emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 23, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
They traded Conor Graham from Modesto in the Cal League. Had 87 K in 80.1 IP. Walks were a little high.
I see that the Rocks (Rox?) called up Jhoulys Chacin. He’s freaking unbelievable. He pushed MadBum for best pitcher in the Sally League a year ago during the first half.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 23, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
GIANTS BRASS!!!!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
I took a practice SAT instead of watching the game :(
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
I’m a future SAT Prep Instructor!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
I taught SAT to young asian kids once for extra income in college
Only the math section though. English is not my first language =/
the SAT is a bullshit test tbh but what can you do?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
No, the magic part is that we’re supposed to teach the students to think of the SAT as being bullshit!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
It is bullshit, but I wish my crap-ass math SAT score didn’t keep me out of Stanford. :(
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 23, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
That sucks :(
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
I’m more upset about missing out on Stanford for the money issue. If I got in, I would have attended for free because of the $18 bil endowment they received last year. They’re offering free tuition to students making less than $100,000.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 23, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
I’m happy to attend San Jose State, and the state school fees/tuition are still very cheap compared to a lot of other college options, but free elite education? I could have ruled the world…
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 23, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Still might.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Jul 23, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
nah
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 23, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
YYYEEESSSS
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Jul 23, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
/can’t believe he’s part of this lame rivalry but . . .
go Bears
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
nah
emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 23, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
YES!!!
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 23, 2009 4:01 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Cal sucks!
As a Stanford grad, I am legally obligated to make this post.
Any test that says I got a high score on it is okay by me.
Even if it’s stupid.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 23, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
the SAT only said that I was high.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 23, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
They were probably asian-americans.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 23, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah that one's probly going unanswered.
well, he could’ve been a 17 yr old freshman in college…
On 5/7, the best part of waking is up LOLDGERS in my cup.
I was a 17 year-old freshman in college once! It sucks.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Why would asian kids need someone to teach them math?
by The Double Deuce on Jul 23, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I would tell them
Don’t stress out too much because your GPA matters more.
My GPA was great, that didn’t help when MIT told me that there were thousands more qualified than me and LOL’d in my face.
=/
GPA consistently out-predicts SATs at collegiate success. But good grades + high SATs is better than just high GPA.
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
I agree. A good GPA says that you give a fuck. High SATs just mean you’re smart/good at standardized tests.
Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
by Zetsuboushita on Jul 23, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn you people
I am one those people. High SATs, comically low GPA..
Wilber Bucardo: Carlos Silva with a younger brother.
me 3
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
I’m trying to right the ship, albeit late in the game.
Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list and batting .326 in Scottsdale...which I believe has be renamed Rafaelsdale.
also +1
my post grad grades are very good.
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
me 5
Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 23, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I am too.
Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
by Zetsuboushita on Jul 23, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I did not speak any English as of 8th grade, as much as I wanted to improve my Verbal score on SAT it was impossible for me to get a 1500 on my SAT.
It worked out though. I saved a bunch of money and went to Cal instead.
If it makes you feel better, your English on this site is among the clearest of anyone here.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
I stand by my comment, but it was more of a reflection of the scatterbrained nature of this site.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
Cal’s just as good as MIT for 80% of everything and better for another fraction of that.
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
unless they wanted you to be an engineer or psychologist, they were wrong to do so.
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
BUT MIT HAS LOTS OF TUNNELZ!!!!111
Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
by Zetsuboushita on Jul 23, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Having graduated two years ago, I am continuing to find Cal to be not-cheap.
Although I’m sure it’s not as expensive as some other schools.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 23, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I can tell you that it’s not as expensive as Boston College!
:\
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Shh!
They might do so!
NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Jul 23, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Try private medical schools. They make BC look cheap.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
other than cost of living, it’s pretty cheap
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
I pretty much mailed it on the SATs. I don’t like the idea of being forced to take a standardized test, regardless of what’s at stake. I still got in to every place I applied so I assumed they don’t put a lot of weight in to SATs(although it should be noted that they issued the new SATs when I took them).
Well, it takes thousands and thousands of hours to improve your GPA and by the time you’re a junior/senior in high school, a lot of it is already set in stone. Most people only spend 1-6 hours preparing for the SAT but it’s still worth ~25% of the app in general. If you increase that to just like 40-60 hours, it can make a huge difference.
/reciting company propaganda
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Revolution Prep. I am told we are MUCH better than Kaplan (I have no idea what Kaplan’s curriculum looks like, but I think this one seems like it could actually be really really useful and it apparently is.)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Actually
I think the key is that we’re about half as expensive as Kaplan.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
You’re the Michael Tucker of test prep.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
/gets into a fight with Jeff Weaver
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
I was at that game. One of my fondest Michael Tucker memories….which is a pretty slim file.
Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list and batting .326 in Scottsdale...which I believe has be renamed Rafaelsdale.
I remember a couple of grand slams but I don’t remember the context for them.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Both were off the same Rockies lefty (don't remember the name)
Splash hit.
Wilber Bucardo: Carlos Silva with a younger brother.
against the Rockies bullpen. I remember Marquis Grissom getting a big walkoff against them around the same time. No wonder they traded for Betancourt right before this series
Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!
by rxmeister on Jul 23, 2009 1:48 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Didn't think it through that far
I was just thinking of Sabean’s “If we’d signed Vlad, we wouldn’t have had the money to sign Tucker et al” riff.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
my SAT preparation
signing up, receiving the notice in the mail, opening the notice and figuring out when the test was, looking again the night before the test to make sure it was indeed the next day, asking my Dad how to get to Gunn HS, driving to the test at Gunn HS.
I did well enough to play college sports.
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 23, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I had a friend who got an 800 verbal after not having slept in 36 hours.
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
I took it at Gunn, too. One time the intruder alert went off and they had to cancel the test and give us all vouchers to retake it a month later. That was bullshit.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I had a 3.6 at the time I applied to Stanford and they still turned me down due to an abysmal math SAT score.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 23, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
What major?
My friend had a 4.0 GPA and they still turned him down. Two arrests for assault didn’t help his case though.
Wilber Bucardo: Carlos Silva with a younger brother.
Political science.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 23, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Useless major. I didn’t learn anything in a political science class that I couldn’t learn from reading the news more often. Of course, I rarely attended class….
"El once, chico. Eleven."
Of course it is. I just need a piece of paper to get paying journalism jobs and I wanted to study something I enjoy.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 23, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
This may or may not be true
But what is even more true is that GPA and SAT scores are just one of many, many factors that elite schools look at in regards to admissions.
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
That’s not always the case. I had a bad GPA in high school becuase I was always chasing girls or giving the principal a hard time, but then when I got over 1500 on my SAT’s I was offered a scholarship from the Harvard of the West right on the spot. I ended up going to Cal U. instead of Stansbury, but it all worked out for the best since I got to attend with all my friends and stayed close to the love of my life, who later became my wife.
by Hammaker Party of 8 on Jul 23, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions
/high-fives jponry!
Though we might work for rival companies. It’s all good for me because SAT prep is my side job. I actually applied to another company this summer who didn’t hire me only because I work for their direct competitor. That kinda sucked.
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
Yeah, I’m still doing some consulting type work for my old boss, so it’s all good. The SAT Prep job pays pretty well though and hey classroom experience. I’m looking forward to it!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Yeah
It’s a nice part time job. Pays well and it’s easy.
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
So you are a recent college grad then.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jul 23, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
OK , that's quite enough educational/vocational banter.
Let us revert back to bashing our underachieving Giant overlords.
NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Jul 23, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
And this...which should be administered daily , like a vitamin.
Vitamin LOL
NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Jul 23, 2009 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Buherle Might Have Saved The Giants
Since Sanchez’s no-hitter, the Giants have been playing like crap… perhaps Buherle is the cure for the curse!
How is it remotely possible
That I skimmed that as Hey Giants at first?
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
the gays have control of Zito now?
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Jul 23, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey girls!! Zito was just FABULOUS today. And such a stud!!
Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!
by rxmeister on Jul 23, 2009 1:40 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Somehow we actually won the season series against the Braves.
Judgment Day is coming
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LOL BRAVEZ
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Jul 23, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t even remember sweeping them at AT &T.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
when’s the big deal coming Sabes? Even the broke ass Rockies made a trade today to help themselves
Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!
by rxmeister on Jul 23, 2009 1:24 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
LOL
I can just see him sitting out on the corner somewhere in SF holding a cardboard sign that says “Will trade for crap.”
Wanted to trade for Carp but he had trouble with the spelling.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Prices come down the closer to the deadline it becomes.
by positiveuphemism on Jul 23, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Is Amy G. giving him oral too?
Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!
by rxmeister on Jul 23, 2009 1:44 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I know he went 3-5 today, but I didn’t realize how ‘meh’ Nate’s batting line was until now: .291/.319/.413 that’s pretty meh.
nice.
Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list and batting .326 in Scottsdale...which I believe has be renamed Rafaelsdale.
I’m really disappointed that this graphic isn’t used more often for that phrase.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
BATTING AVERAGE!!!!!!!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Nate's biggest hit
was hitting Gonzo and getting him out then the Giants’ powerful offense took over after that.
Mo'ped Money, Mo'ped Problems
by Scooter Ellis on Jul 23, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
THE BATTLE OF THE MEH
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
What happened to the walks?
I always thought we could count on TI to walk at a decent clip, but it seems like he hasn’t walked in forever.
by Squire_Boone on Jul 23, 2009 1:56 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Well, his OBP is virtually the same as Nate’s with a BA 30 points lower, so he is walking, just not a lot.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
but meh with really really really really good D
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
SSS applies
but his D has been crazy good so far in his ML carreer. Like 2 wins/150 good. I don’t think he’s that good, but 1.5 games/150 isn’t out of the question. With a below average bat that puts him as a slightly above average player overall. Cheap, young and under team control. Good thing to have.
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--Daisy Owl
he looks like he's going to be good defensively
but his offense looks like it’s going to be really awful
i don't know about awful
I’d say below average, maybe up to average if he starts hitting for a little more power
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
He has a long meh to go
He meh get better, though Will he? Mehbe.
My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman
Funny, that’s roughly what Nate’s PECOTA was this year (higher SLG, lower OBP)
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
for an average RF, maybe, but and average ML? not that far. And he’s so far ahead of most other RFs defensively that if he ever hits as well as an average ML, he’ll be really really valuable.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
*an average ML
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
But if you’re giving him credit for defense, you need to compare him to corner outfielders. He’s still not as valuable with the glove as a mediocre shortstop.
And as he was coming up, no one ever suggested he was some kind of transcendent outfielder. So I’d say his defensive numbers are more likely to come back to earth than his hitting is to take off.
right
and the stats ARE comparing him to corner OFs. No one ever suggested that a good COF glove is as valuable as a good SS glove, but it still adds value. In Nate’s case, enough to offset his lack of production with the bat, even after positional considerations
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
I meant that if you’re comparing his glove to other RFs, you also need to compare his bat to other RFs.
But we basically agree. I think his fielding numbers will come down but his hitting will improve a bit, leaving him average or a little below, which is fine — but more or less the same thing you could get from Lewis or Bowker or Ishikawa. That’s what’s so maddening — we need one of these guys to turn into a GOOD player.
Since he started playing regularly, Nate’s right about average in WPA/Li and wOBA (for right fielders).
Bowker still has a very small sample size from which to evaluate his batting
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 23, 2009 4:10 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Awful is about right
He swings at everything and doesn’t walk. When his batting average declines, he’ll essentially be bengie molina
But he could potentially learn to take pitches. At least he’s young and can improve, even if there’s no reason to believe so right now.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
Hmmm, just wondering,
How many players learn discipline in the Majors?
Wilber Bucardo: Carlos Silva with a younger brother.
we should hook electrodes up to him in BP
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
Maybe if he continues to not walk at his current rate, but his ISO OBP this season is 20 points lower than it has been over his MiL career, so it’s not like his walk rate improving is out of the question.
Honestly, this feels a lot like what some people were saying about Lewis last year. Average major league production from a 25 year old under team control for a while is a Really Good Thing.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
his walk rate was still shitty in the minors
so if he makes any improvement, it would be from incredibly shitty, to slightly less shitty.
he’ll essentially be bengie molina
So you’re saying he can be our cleanup hitter? SWEET!
by The Double Deuce on Jul 23, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s annoying, but it beats the Natinals’ OF situation.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
It’s not like he has any sort of protection in the lineup. He’d probably look a lot better on a better team.
The King Of Bling
by cybermaldonado on Jul 23, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
how would protection help a guy that swings at HBP?
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
Free-swingers need protection most of all, what with the rise of STDs.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
if by 'meh'
you mean “significantly worse than Juan Uribe” than yeah. I would actually flat out call it shitty.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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Yeah, but you say that about everything.
Anyway, current Juan Uribe >> Schierholtz >>>>>> real Juan Uribe.
I just hope this imposter can keep the real Uribe locked up in his basement for the rest of the season.
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Letter to The Ethicist
I am a baseball fan in a large, West Coast city. A few weeks ago one of my team’s pitchers was denied a perfect game when Juan Uribe muffed a ground ball in the 8th inning. I was mad for a while, but the pitcher threw the team’s first no-hitter in 33 years, so I forgave Uribe.
Today, though, another team’s pitcher threw a perfect game, which would have been the second one of the season if not for the bobbled ground ball. Is it right for me to want to withdraw my forgiveness towards Uribe?
Sincerely,
“Kitspool”
"He is Tim Lincecum...the Most Interesting Pitcher in the World."
That's a pretty resolute answer
Do you ethicize often?
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
Once you forgive, you can’t unforgive. It’s pretty simple. To want to unforgive is pretty ridiculous all by itself. So…no.
by positiveuphemism on Jul 23, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Not true
What if someone apologizes to you for something and you forgive them, but then later you overhear that person laughing about the apology and saying they didn’t mean it?
I think wanting to unforgive would be justified.
My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman
I dunno
That’s a new infraction, no?
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
Exactly.
And besides, forgiveness is not really for the wrongdoer, but for the benefit of the person who was wronged — allowing him to release this stress and go on with life. It does happen to benefit the wrongdoer, too, but that’s incidental. Kitspool gave himself a gift by forgiving Uribe; he shouldn’t take it back.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Jul 23, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions
HHHHEEERRRRAAAAIIIIDDEEERRHHHHHSSSSSs
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
Holy smokes. Fantastic.
I’m picturing Aaron Rowand in the clubhouse muttering to himself, “He lets the ball slip out of his glove, then bare-hands it before it hits the ground! Genius! Why didn’t I think of that?”
by Evan on Jul 23, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Link without the shake cam
wow. saves perfecto, no-no, and shut out.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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Great catch....
I hope this doesn’t take away from Sanchez’ no-no. It’s typical Giants luck that less than two weeks after doing something so rare and special, another team comes along and tops it. Plus they do it during a weekday afternoon, so EAST COAST BIAS actually pays close attention to it. I’m feeling a little bitter.
"He is Tim Lincecum...the Most Interesting Pitcher in the World."
I actually hate it when the Giants get national media attention. They always gloss over stuff, or get things wrong, or ask the same questions we’ve already heard the answers to a hundred times. The national media has a way of pissing all over things. We love Jonathan for his no-hitter, and I will never ever forget how watching every pitch made me feel (even if the game indirectly led to the end of my relationship with my now-ex). I will applaud Buerhle for his incredible feat. To me, it doesn’t take a thing away from Jonathan Sanchez’s story.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 23, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Good point. Today certainly hasn’t changed how I feel about the Sanchez no-hitter, I just like seeing the team get some props from the talking heads in Bristol, while realizing it doesn’t mean anything.
"He is Tim Lincecum...the Most Interesting Pitcher in the World."
Yeah. At least MLB Network was buzzing about Sanchez for a few days. ESPN is awful, so I consider MLB Network worth a heck of a lot more.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 23, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
(even if the game indirectly led to the end of my relationship with my now-ex)
I’m intrigued… Care to elaborate?
(I understand if you don’t want to)
by The Double Deuce on Jul 23, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
nah I was dating Juan Uribe
I dumped him after he committed the error.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 23, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
All I care to say about it is, if two deeply passionate Giants fans can fight on a such an incredible night, there were some massive problems.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 23, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Awesome PSD Comments...
People would rather have ish then Dunn… You guys are restarted.. Dunn is good for 40 jacks every year and had an amazing on base percentage. stick him in left field
Bochy should be fired. Twice today we had a runner at 2nd with nobody out and Bochy let the hitters swing away instead of bunting and we didnt score either time
Would you trade cain for fielder?
My head…..
You guys are so restarted!
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 23, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
When I go there, it is usually to tell someone how wrong they are, like the caps lock spewing guy
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
oh god did u see that guy earlier “MY FRIED WHO KNOWS LARRY BEAR SAYS LEWIS AND ALDERSON FOR HOLLIDAY DEAL ALREADY DONE WAITING FOR AFTER THE GAME TO ANNOUNCE”?
I should have stopped ready at ", but i kept going until Larry BEAR.
I also have a fried who knows Larry Bear...
…and this is a direct quote from Larry: “I do not feel sick.”
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
I thought it was a rural colloquialism:
“Borrow my car? MY FRIED LARRY BEAR YOU WILL!”
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
HOW CAN THAT BE?
Status: Has a feeling that tonight is going to be good night. || Still boycotting Johnsonville and Giants souvenirs or ballpark foods for repossessing my K Wall in right field.
PSD?
emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 23, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, OK, then.
emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 23, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Its a sports forum
Not quite as classy as this place
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
LOL Giants’ offense. From sfgiants.com:
ATLANTA — A four-run uprising in Thursday’s eighth inning, which included two bunts and a pair of Braves errors, broke a tie and lifted the Giants to a much-needed 5-1 victory in Atlanta.
Only with the Giants could four runs be an uprising, and the catalyst of said output be based on bunts and errors. Sheesh!
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jul 23, 2009 2:48 PM PDT reply actions
Heh
The Perfect Game Thread on South Side Sox has 88 comments on it after a couple hours. I think we had 88 comments in the first minute of the Sanchez no-hitter thread.
"He is Tim Lincecum...the Most Interesting Pitcher in the World."
McCoven win at overreaction and celebration.
Basically the essence of sports-fandom.
Status: Has a feeling that tonight is going to be good night. || Still boycotting Johnsonville and Giants souvenirs or ballpark foods for repossessing my K Wall in right field.
went to lunch after we won
and the perfecto… give me the wrap up, what happened in this thread… i only see something about larry bear driving matt holiday somewhere
go timmy!
"Restarted" = new "unrated"?
Anagram of "knowing how to win" = WOW, I KNOW NOTHING
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jul 23, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
Fresno LOLineup
2B Velez
CF Timpner
C Posey
1B Guzman
DH Borchard
SS Rohlinger
LF Copeland
RF Horwitz
Wald 3B,
Pucetas P
IT’S BECAUSE HE GOT PROMOTED TO AAAA
Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
by Zetsuboushita on Jul 23, 2009 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions
With RJs long term health in question
wouldn’t it be smarter to bring up Pucetas and DFA Sadowski?
Yeah, probably.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Right side of the infield has the worst defense ever
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
Tell me when hits a grandslam. Then, I’ll take notice.
by SoFa King Mike on Jul 23, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Wilriv will soon be clamoring for all of our pitchers to swing the bat, right after the hitters toe the rubber.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Lol
Royals fan puts his allegiance up for sale.
Wilber Bucardo: Carlos Silva with a younger brother.
LOL
emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 23, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
OT
There has been a game time change for the Giants. The August 15th game at New York was originally scheduled for a 4:10 PM PT start has been moved to 1:10 PM PT (or 4:10 PM ET) to accommodate FOX. The game that was dropped was Arizona-Los Angeles.
I know there are a few New Yorkers here so this is for them since they are likely going to the game and a heads up for us so we don’t turn the game on at 4:10 PM on CSN and see nothing but Life of Brian.
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