Poll: What should be done?
by Lyle on Jul 23, 2009 8:13 AM PDT
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What should the Giants do to maximize their potential this year? (moderators, feel free to delete if this is superfluous - I did a quick check, but I've been out of town for a week)
We seem to be at a crossroads. It seems that some want to make a big splash via a trade, some want a smaller trade, and some want to stand pat and let the season play out with the roster bascially as is. I can see some value to each position, so what say you McCoven?
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Option 6 – Don’t make stupid trades because you’ve over-estimated our current team.
by xanthan on Jul 23, 2009 8:21 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
this
Les Plack = more chicks
my lead in dingerz.exe is shrinking...
by Headhunter Rollins on Jul 23, 2009 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup!
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
by daveinexile on Jul 23, 2009 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chris, is that the same as #5?
Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005. And winner of the 2012 NL Fireman of the Year Award!
by Lyle on Jul 23, 2009 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think so, but I’m not so sure we can win the WC. Plus, I just wanted to be snarky!
by xanthan on Jul 23, 2009 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Snark away!
Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005. And winner of the 2012 NL Fireman of the Year Award!
by Lyle on Jul 23, 2009 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hoped for this option too, but voted #5 as the best alternative.
Noonan. Nooooonan!
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Jul 23, 2009 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The corollary, though: Don’t NOT make smart trades because you’ve overestimated our FUTURE team.
by Evan on Jul 23, 2009 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, but...
…don’t not refrain from making stupid trades because you underestimate how much the current team will overestimate our future team, either.
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by EliminateMe on Jul 23, 2009 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t completely disagree with this, in part.
by Evan on Jul 23, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me neither.
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by EliminateMe on Jul 23, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this
Prospective parent of new pick, Zack Wheeler. Projectable Righty stolen from the braves. Of course, I stalk my son's myspace: http://www.myspace.com/zackwheelerbaseball
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by haverecords on Jul 23, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bingo!
Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 23, 2009 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Option 7 – Lowball on Alex Rios and/or Freddy Sanchez
by SoFa King Mike on Jul 23, 2009 8:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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/ polishes foil hat and looks longingly at center field.
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
by daveinexile on Jul 23, 2009 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I voted for Sanchez, also thinking Rios would be a similar situation. If we take a contract we dont have to give as much in return. Plus, its not like we have great prospects at either of these positions so it helps the future as well.
by shaolinironlion on Jul 23, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Option 8 CANE FOUR SUM BATZ
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
by rotorueter on Jul 23, 2009 8:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
MATT HOLLIDAY MATT HOLLIDAY MATT HOLLIDAY MATT HOLLIDAY MATT HOLLIDAY MATT HOLLIDAY
sucks!
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Jul 23, 2009 8:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think a trade will happen. A couple of months ago Sabean made a comment on KNBR that has stuck with me. He said that the front office would be more inclined to do something if we were in the race this season because the fans deserved it after suffering through the last 4 years. I’m paraphrasing but that was the gist of it.
by I'm_a_Man on Jul 23, 2009 8:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Brian Sabean also said:
“FUCK WORK, LET’S DRINK!”
by SoFa King Mike on Jul 23, 2009 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not just the fans, either. Players also get frustrated with front offices that don’t bring in help to win. Think of poor Matt Cain (who we’ll need to be seriously beginning to engage in extension talks with this winter) — don’t think he’d like to see some help? He’s yet to play on a team that finished near .500. We’re in a difficult situation, that’s for sure.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
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by Roger on Jul 23, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This
Remember what happened when Pat Gillick didn’t make any trades for the Mariners in 2003? That team won 93 games and lost the WC by 2 games. Jeff Nelson during the season complained about other teams making moves and them standing pat. He was later traded for criticizing management haha.
by Hobbes2d on Jul 23, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He said this thinking we wouldnt be in the race anymore.
by shaolinironlion on Jul 23, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
POLL FAIL
there was no “Panic” option
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on Jul 23, 2009 8:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Mohammed Jihad
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
by CB30 on Jul 23, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My God, that’s the best acting I’ve ever seen!
GROUGTHINK ALERT
by groug on Jul 23, 2009 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck Yeah!
Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 23, 2009 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The offensive woes of the Giants will not be cured with one trade. They have gaping offensive holes at second and left field and only a slightly smaller hole at first. Can they get Holliday and Freddy Sanchez without giving up the farm? If not – then no trades, bite the bullet for this year and next and hope that in 2011 Matt and Timmay continue to pitch at superior levels.
by APGiantsFan on Jul 23, 2009 8:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
it’s like a post from back in time. Say, the offseason 2008-2009
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
by zenbitz on Jul 23, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, im just a little black rain cloud, hovering under the honey tree…
Les Plack = more chicks
my lead in dingerz.exe is shrinking...
by Headhunter Rollins on Jul 23, 2009 8:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
trade nothing for something
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 23, 2009 9:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I voted Sanchez...
not because I think he will help us contend this year, but because of the lack of a 2B prospect near the majors. Noonan is the only semi-prospect at 2nd (assuming Frandsen continues to get the shaft), and many seem to have doubts even now about his future as a major leaguer. 2B is a definite hole in the team. The Pirates excel at making terrible trades, and I think it would behoove Sabean to try to deal for him, either now or in the offseason.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Jul 23, 2009 9:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This.
I also don’t know how much FSanch will help this year, but he will be a nice improvement over what we have. Also, based on what the Pirates got for Laroche, they seem to be in fire sale mode and wouldn’t demand a premium for the guy.
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by Flapjacks McGurty on Jul 23, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
With Sanchez in the folds at 2nd Uribe could play for Renteria more.
by shaolinironlion on Jul 23, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Freddy Sanchez, at the right price, would be a good addition for this year and next.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.
by marcello on Jul 23, 2009 9:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
That’s the only viable option in this poll. That being said, “the right price” needs to be no more than 3 very fringey prospects considering what the Pirates got in their previous trades for McClouth and Nyger Morgan. We have the upper hand in this deal as the Pirates desperately need to dump salary.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
by Fla-Giant on Jul 23, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Add the LaRoche deal to the BoSox to that list
The Pirates didn’t get much for LaRoche either.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
by Fla-Giant on Jul 23, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This gets said every year, but seriously: one of these off-seasons the Giants need to decide which young player/prospects are going to be part of their future and which ones aren’t. Has the team seen enough of Lewis/Bowker/Schierholtz/Frandsen/Ishi/etc. to be able to make go/no-go decisions on them? Because, if you’re building for 2010 and beyond, you need to figure out where your biggest holes are (TWSS!). And it feels like they’re still trying to figure that out.
"He is Tim Lincecum...the Most Interesting Pitcher in the World."
by Kitspool on Jul 23, 2009 10:02 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
On the other hand
You’ll have to openings in the OF and three LHH young outfielders. None of them look like sure bets to me as everyday players.
I wouldn’t blame the Giants for looking for another OF.
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by Goofus on Jul 23, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
weren’t we told by Sabean, in April, that a reason for the Giants’ not making a big move in the off-season was so that they would have the money to make a possible big move at the trade deadline?
by campanari on Jul 23, 2009 10:07 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think it was quite such a cause and effect kind of thing, but he did say that given our lack of offseason spending we would probably be able to be active in the trade market.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 23, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I voted for Sanchez as well simply because it will make us better. Good enough to make the playoffs? Probably not; this team needs two bats to at least make the lineup somewhat competitive.
I think what’s really scary is that our pitching staff could fall apart at any minute. Sadowski is not a major-league starter and paired with Zito and Sanchez that gives us three big time question marks in the rotation. Trading Sanchez, or any quasi-MLB-ready starter from anywhere in the organization, seems like a pretty dumb idea to me at this juncture. Which, of course, severely affects our ability to trade in the first place. Ugh.
by InTimmyWeTrust on Jul 23, 2009 11:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I really think we need to trade for Sanchez, swap one of our lefty outfielders for a RHH outfielder to platoon (Elijah Dukes???), DFA Richie, and bring up Guzman to platoon with Ishi.
It was nice to dream of Roy Halladay, or Adrian Gonzales, but I think we should go to war with the guys we have and see how things pan out.
by OTTOMATIC on Jul 23, 2009 2:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I wanted another option
Don’t make the trades mentioned above, but the opportunity to make
a good deal without giving up the too much, should always be on the
table.
by bradleybear on Jul 23, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those 4 moves are basically the right roadmap if we want to try to win this.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
by rotorueter on Jul 23, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was away from my computer for 6 days; it was some sort of pent-up McCovenitis or something. I’ll go back to my normal self now.
Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005. And winner of the 2012 NL Fireman of the Year Award!
by Lyle on Jul 24, 2009 6:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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