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What the Giants Should Do at the Trade Deadline

I suppose things are a little muddled now. The Giants are rebuilding. The Giants are contending. The Giants need to keep their core of prospects together. The Giants need to win at all costs. Flags do fly forever, you know. The Giants have a winning record, and their run differential matches up nicely with their record, but some abacus ticklers think the Giants have been a little lucky with their offense, and the team could be in for a fall. Translated: they aren’t a team that should rightfully be over .500, and they’ll regress in the second half.

Interesting theories, all. After careful consideration of the above factors, it’s time for a trade deadline manifesto.

Star-divide

The Giants shouldn’t trade any of their four best prospects. Buster Posey, Madison Bumgarner, Tim Alderson, and Angel Villalona are building blocks for the future. C’mon, man. You can’t trade them. Hands off.

The Giants need to trade for really, really good players. They need to trade for players who can help the offense now. Anyone who represents only a slight upgrade at first base or second base isn’t worth the Giants’ time.

Also, the Giants need to trade with an eye on the future. Giving any prospects away for rent-a-players would be a mistake. The really, really good players should be under contract for 2010, at least. Maybe even longer.

Jonathan Sanchez used to be a tradable commodity, but he’s looked awesome in his last two starts. He stays no matter what.

The Giants should trade one of their young, left-handed outfielders – Nate Schierholtz or Fred Lewis – to free up some playing time for both John Bowker and the player who isn’t traded. But they should only make that trade if there’s a lot of value coming back. I mean, you don’t just want to give the guys away.

If there’s one subset of players the Giants should target, it’s this: young, pre-arbitration hitters who are already middle-of-the-order lineup forces, or at least above-average hitters for their position. If those players aren’t coming up in trade rumors, make the team an offer they can’t refuse. Sweeten the pot with extra players.

Remember, though, that the top four prospects are untouchable. Well, five, really, since I’ve grown kind of fond of Thomas Neal. And Scott Barnes has been lights out in the Cal League, so we should probably hang on to him. Brandon Crawford’s bat should come around, too. Plus, Roger Kieschnick’s power is intriguing. Ehire Adrianza is holding his own with the bat and playing superb defense against older competition, so he stays too. Anyone else is pretty much fair game unless they have upside.

So there it is. It’s pretty simple, really. The Giants need to trade for an impact hitter who might not exist, they need to hold on to the players that anyone else would want in a trade, and they should center the package around a flawed corner outfielder whom we wouldn’t miss.

If the Giants do anything – or don’t do anything – within these exact parameters, I will complain loudly, and I will complain for months. It’s pretty flippin’ easy, Giants front office. I just laid it alllllll out for you. E-mail me if you have questions about this simple task.

edit: I forgot to add that I also want a pony included in any deal made. The pony would go to me. Thanks.

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great post

so frustrated reading that, because it all is true and puts us in such hard place.

I would be fine with trading Alderson, but not Bumgarner, only if we get someone real good in return.

I put Neal in that untouchable list, but I’d be fine with trading anyone else.

by heimy25 on Jul 21, 2009 11:14 AM PDT reply actions  

lol irony

Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on Jul 21, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol accuracy
they aren’t a team that should rightfully be over .500, and they’ll regress in the second half.

If by “regress” you mean fall off a fucking cliff backwards

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Jul 21, 2009 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oops me

I misread what heimy was saying.

Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on Jul 21, 2009 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

79 wins

Any moves they make should be made with an eye towards 2010. I guess I am one of those abacus ticklers. I feel that the 1st half was smoke and mirrors. But now that the smoke has dissipated and the mirrors have cracked, the team should continue with what the plan has been all along: see what is in-house this season, and spend some money filling holes in the offseason.

by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 21, 2009 11:14 AM PDT reply actions  

Agree.

We’re playing with house money by even being discussed for playoff contention. That makes this “rebuilding” season much more palatable…hell, most folks would have been happy with a 75-win season.

Plus, the holes are too plentiful to be filled with any satisfaction via a few trades at the deadline.

"There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live - too rare to die."

by younghutch on Jul 21, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Most folks would have been happy with a 75 win season.

Um, I kind of doubt that. Unless maybe a lot of the young guys did well, but ridiculously bad luck made the team do poorly.

VOTE SANDOVAL
Adopted Giant: Henry Sosa

by raisingcain on Jul 21, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Let me rephrase: A 75-win season that showed growth and promise in the youngsters.

"There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live - too rare to die."

by younghutch on Jul 21, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was saying if so many of the young guys do well, we’d probaly win more than 75 games.

VOTE SANDOVAL
Adopted Giant: Henry Sosa

by raisingcain on Jul 21, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

82+ is good, 80 or less is bad.

Simple as that.

"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."

by i did my job on Jul 21, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

79!!!!!

And be happy with it as long as playing the under 30 question marks enough to figure out how they fit into to 2010 and onwards squads.

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Jul 22, 2009 6:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Genius

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Jul 21, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with this except I want to see the north side of .500 – 82 wins, please.

Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.

by Johnny Disaster on Jul 21, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

This post warmed my heart.

by xanthan on Jul 21, 2009 11:15 AM PDT reply actions  

He likes it in the USB port and the headphone jack at the same time.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 21, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

fingercuff

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 21, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t like where this conversation is heading!

by xanthan on Jul 21, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

/bans self

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 21, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

you might have crossed his wires

by jctGamer on Jul 21, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did it tickle his abacus?

by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jul 21, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kelly Johnson homers twice in G-Braves' win

http://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-braves/kelly-johnson-homers-twice-96461.html

Not to undermine the snark of this threat, but this guy could be a long-term upgrade, and perhaps we could actually get him for a package centered around one of our extraneous outfielders.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 21, 2009 11:16 AM PDT reply actions  

I mentioned Johnson in an earlier post, and I would be all for it. I think his defense is sub-Frandsen, though.

by Grant Brisbee on Jul 21, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was just checking his UZR numbers and they range from bad to average-ish. He’s got a career UZR/150 at 2B of -6 runs.

by xanthan on Jul 21, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he isn’t without warts, but that’s the whole reason he might fit into the “TRAED K-FRED” mold. Plus, it’s second base. An autistic chimpanzee would be an upgrade.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 21, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yup, and I didn’t mean to say that I didn’t like Johnson as a trade target, he would make some sense. I think Bobby Cox hates him and has de-friended him from his facebook account.

by xanthan on Jul 21, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure Bobby’s only on MySpace.

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Jul 21, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d love to have Kelly Johnson.

by Natto on Jul 21, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

omgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomg

by Natto on Jul 21, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I read this as “nomnomnomnomnomnomnom”

"There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live - too rare to die."

by younghutch on Jul 21, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

that comes later

Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list and batting .326 in Scottsdale...which I believe has be renamed Rafaelsdale.

by BrianBokake on Jul 21, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not to undermine the snark of this threat, but this guy could would absolutely be a long-term upgrade, and perhaps we could actually get him for a package centered around one of our extraneous outfielders.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 21, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Trade K-Fred for Johnson. DO IT GIANTZ BRASZ!

by Hobbes2d on Jul 21, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m in favor of screwing dealing with other teams by trading our savvy veterans to them .

Rowand, Zito, Aurilia, Molina for Holliday, Halliday, Doris Day, Otis Day (& the Nights)…

"There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live - too rare to die."

by younghutch on Jul 21, 2009 11:16 AM PDT reply actions  

I guarantee you nobody would do that deal. Nobody would part with The Nights.

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Jul 21, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lets instead get

Morris Day and the feather pluckin Time!

by Viva Jon Miller on Jul 21, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

"My Drawers"!!

That’s my walk-up music.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Jul 21, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Plus

They have and album called Pandemonium

by Viva Jon Miller on Jul 21, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which has a song called "My Summertime Thing"

GET IT DONE, GINATS BRXASS!1

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Jul 21, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

“The Walk” should be your walk up music !

My adopted son Matt Downs . Ranked as the 24th best prospect in the Giants farm system by Baseball America !!

by nvsfg on Jul 21, 2009 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Believe it or not, I’m glad they’ve hit a bit of a skid. The way things were going, Sabean would have likely traded some young talent for a Rent-A-Player to push us into ’09 Postseason.

I’d rather see this team do well in ‘10-’13 than push for ’09 and mortgage more of the future.

Hitler was a Dodgers fan.

by The Nick on Jul 21, 2009 11:18 AM PDT reply actions  

Hater

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 21, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t forget that the list of players going into FA this off-season isn’t bad. Adding a run producer through FA is a possibility, and we’ll get to keep the farm system on track.

2010 Free Agents

Hitler was a Dodgers fan.

by The Nick on Jul 21, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I kinda like Polanco if he came cheap-ish.

by xanthan on Jul 21, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s had a down year, but he can still defend. This past offseason the market squeezed out guys like Mark Grudzliesaklasnk and Ray Durham, maybe Polanco would be undervalued?

by xanthan on Jul 21, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

ya but you know Sabez will sign him for way too much

hes comparable to renteria

Congratulations and Thank you Jonathan Sanchez.

by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 21, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, but who is going to give me a gurantee we will be competitive 2010-2013?

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 21, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Who says you deserve one?

by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 21, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hiding the whole thing to avoid…whatever.

by Grant Brisbee on Jul 21, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate whatever.

The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Kevin Frandsen, come back!

by WalrusMan on Jul 21, 2009 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Censorship! I will rebel!

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 21, 2009 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I got in one last Billy Mays comment before it was hidden!

by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 21, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dammit

I shouldn’t have closed the thread. I want to know who replied to me and what they said.

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.

@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 21, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just go to your profile page.

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Jul 21, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bay Area Sports Guy
For a second I thought we were playing $25,000 Pyramid…

by Natto on Jul 21, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was the only one.

by Natto on Jul 21, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks

I was hoping for some anger and vitriol, but I guess humor will do. What happened, did it devolve into rude comments, or was it just a preemptive strike?

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.

@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 21, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

More of the latter.

by Natto on Jul 21, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

dude come see me. seriously ill mess u up. ill teach you sum manners. his family is still mouring and your making jokes. imean really dude grow up and stop making jokes about billy mays or anyone else

by Mannybeatsfranny on Jul 21, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is an unexpected turn.

by xanthan on Jul 21, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man I wish I hadn’t closed this thread an hour ago.

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.

@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 21, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

HAHAHAHA

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.

@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 21, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, someone really isn’t taking Burriss’ broken foot well.

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Jul 21, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Randy Winn took all my class

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.

@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 21, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

What on earth are you talking about?

No one is disrespecting Billy Mays. No one spoke ill of him or his family. say hey nation brought up his name because he was known for his enthusiasm with selling products. Nothing more.

by Natto on Jul 21, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're still a dick though Natto

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Jul 21, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do you think I’m too stiff?

by Natto on Jul 21, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

You've turned into such a hard guy.

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Jul 21, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 21, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

come meet me at at&t next week when we face the priates i wanna kick the you know what out of you.

by Mannybeatsfranny on Jul 21, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

sweet, you gonna pay for my tixs?

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 21, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

naw ima beat the @#$* out of your imature @##

by Mannybeatsfranny on Jul 21, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Part of me thinks that we’re all falling in the sarchasm. It’s the part of me that thinks Juan Uribe might not be the worst player in the history of the world.

Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ

by Zetsuboushita on Jul 21, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

One of your parts is right.

by xanthan on Jul 21, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pervert.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Jul 21, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think he’s being the immature one here.

by Natto on Jul 21, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

What is going on? I missed something

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 21, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

HES SELLING MJ D"S TO FARRAH!

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 21, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ed McMahon says: YOU ARE CORRECT, SIR

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 21, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

5 DOLLAR FOOTLONG

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 21, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

5

The sum value of all the things Billy Mays ever sold!

HEYO

Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on Jul 21, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Every time I see the Big City slider Ad I deeply consider buying it

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 21, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

The BCS did look pretty amazing.

by xanthan on Jul 21, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

IMHO

He should have sold Snuggies

Congratulations and Thank you Jonathan Sanchez.

by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 21, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

When ever I type in CAPS i always use " instead of ’

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 21, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here

That happened, freakout commenced.

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.

@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 21, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can we make it the Phillies game on the 9/3 I already have tixs

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 21, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like how Manny beat Franny

Even though Manny’s worse than Frandsen?

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Jul 21, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

debateable

Congratulations and Thank you Jonathan Sanchez.

by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 21, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

There’s hardly even been a joke made here, good lord.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 21, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Idk I think them hitting a skid makes the probability of a trade higher than if they had kept winning…

by Hobbes2d on Jul 21, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Giants shouldn’t trade any of their four best prospects. Buster Posey, Madison Bumgarner, Tim Alderson, Thomas Neal, and Angel Villalona are building blocks for the future. C’mon, man. You can’t trade them. Hands off.

Fixed. I don’t hate Alderson but I wouldn’t go postal if he was traded. Neal I think is special and I want to keep

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 21, 2009 11:18 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm also not sure about Villalona

injury prone. Not great strike zone judgment. Can only play first, not a great athlete. Has fallen in love with American fast food. But he’s 18. But also, there’s Chris Dominguez.

by Giantsfan4life on Jul 21, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s all about the Roosevelts.

/Anvil has hunger pains

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Jul 21, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

take him to a dreamworld of magic

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Jul 21, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry that’s Hamiltons

by goGSW24 on Jul 21, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's pangs

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.

@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 21, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

it’s hunger pangs…

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 21, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Somewhat hilariously, sharp pains

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.

@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 21, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well thanks to this delicious sausage mcgriddle, I don’t have any anymore.

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Jul 21, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

never forget

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 21, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry to be out of the loop, but… who is this?

by The Double Deuce on Jul 21, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some dude they showed on screen during the All Star Game.

by Natto on Jul 21, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

A character from the show Fringe, who Fox has apparently been showing during a lot of their broadcasts.

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Jul 21, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s also a Shining Hero Shining Brightly.

Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ

by Zetsuboushita on Jul 21, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can’t tell who is worse at whoring their own shows. NBC or FOX

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 21, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

they showed during the ASG but didn’t Identify him from what I could tell, so if you don’t watch that show, all you saw was creepy bald guy for 10 seconds, which made it all so funny.

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 21, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s exactly how I remember it. It was very odd.

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.

@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 21, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Has fallen in love with American fast food.

Huh? How do you know this?

by Natto on Jul 21, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Geez, just look at him. He’s a tank

by Giantsfan4life on Jul 21, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

A Super Awesome Tank ?

My adopted son Matt Downs . Ranked as the 24th best prospect in the Giants farm system by Baseball America !!

by nvsfg on Jul 21, 2009 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

All he needs to do is take the stairs instead of the elevator. Am I the only one who listens to Kaiser Permanente????

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Jul 21, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I totally started doing that after hearing that ad.

by The Double Deuce on Jul 21, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dear Big Mac,

Do you like me?

[ ] yes
[ ] no

by xanthan on Jul 21, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Morons Dealt” is an anagram of Tim Alderson.

Take it how you like, but I’m stocking the basement

by microwave donut on Jul 21, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

wait a second, no it isn’t.

Carry on then

by microwave donut on Jul 21, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

You must be thinking of Tom Alderson.

"Just another ahahahaha... laugher."
bok bok bok... BOCOCK!

by capnk on Jul 21, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gotta give something to get something

I always harken back to the first Kevin Mitchell trade and the Matt Williams trade.
To get Mitch, Dravecky, and Leftyerts we had to part with a young, already All-Star 3B/future pop star Chris Brown and future CY Mark Davis…
And to rebuild a mediocre mid-90’s team into perenneial contenders, we had to do the unthinkable: part with Matty Williams.

That said, this may not be the year to pull another…
Glad it’s not my call (not really, any openings Giants brass??)

by Giant Homer on Jul 21, 2009 11:20 AM PDT reply actions  

Photoshop

I’d love to see a picture with Larry Baer with a GINATS BRAZZZZ shirt.

Make it happen internet peoples that are good with photoshop.

by Giant Voodoo on Jul 21, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isn't Chris Brown driving a truck in Iraq?

Thought I read that somewhere. Mr. Fragile driving a truck in a war zone; he’s semi-heroic now

by Giantsfan4life on Jul 21, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

He passed away in 2006.

by Natto on Jul 21, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry, i hadn’t heard. But the Iraq thing was right, right?

by Giantsfan4life on Jul 21, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

He died back in texas about Dec of 2006 years ago from burns he got in a house fire.

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Jul 21, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

The guy drove a truck in Iraq and dies in Texas from a house fire? Oh that sucks.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 21, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

After hanging on for a month dealing with the burns. That is just a heeping turd sanwich in my book.

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Jul 21, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

As I remember it, the fire was very suspicious.

by SFGuy on Jul 21, 2009 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd be okay with dealing Tim Alderson as well

I think the odds that he will become a solid SP are very good and 6 years of cost-controlled starting pitching is great, but I would move him in the right deal.

Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.

by Aadik on Jul 21, 2009 11:22 AM PDT reply actions  

Who's even available?

Freddy Sanchez? Matt Holiday? Alex Rios? Are these guys that are really going to be THAT helpful? I like them all if we somehow got them ALL on the same team, but obviously that would cost too much. I think Rios is probably the most realistic piece to trade for, since his team wants to dump him so bad, but I’m not sure him alone makes the team playoff CUNTENDURZ.

So IDK. But what I do know is I trust Brian Sabean.

To do exactly the wrong thing.

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by bondslegend on Jul 21, 2009 11:24 AM PDT reply actions  

Agreed.

Rios would be more a building piece for the next seasons. Not nessarly a high impact one for this season. The rest is bucket full of luke warm “meh” once the price is out of the blue light specail range.

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Jul 21, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

So we trade one of our flawed OF ‘prospects’ for an established, very expensive flawed OFer. ‘yeah, let’s do that.
Sabes will though

by Giantsfan4life on Jul 21, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who plays a legit elite Cf and have been a 3 WAR player. The one thing that would stop Sabean is he is on the wrong side of 30.

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Jul 21, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who’s getting superstar money and who sure as hell ain’t a 3 WAR this season. Not saying I wouldn’t want him, but they’re asking too much

by Giantsfan4life on Jul 21, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Umm $12MM a year is NOT Super Star money. When are you, back in the early 90’s?

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by daveinexile on Jul 21, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

You mean Aaron Rowand isn’t a superstar?

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Jul 21, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

AAARRRGGGHH

/ repeatedly bashes head on desk

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by daveinexile on Jul 21, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

Ow, my head hurts.
What is Zito?

by Mrbasepaul on Jul 21, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

This point can’t be emphasized enough.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 21, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

it's only a good trade

if you give up a bunch of crap for something good.

Hmm… I guess I am not verbose enough to be a famous rumor mongering blogger…

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by zenbitz on Jul 21, 2009 11:24 AM PDT reply actions  

The monkey in the wrench may be the fact that Sabean’s contract is coming up. has he done enough already to justify an extension? Does he feel the need to make a final splash at the deadline? Does Neukom want to put his own stamp on this team?

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by younghutch on Jul 21, 2009 11:25 AM PDT reply actions  

Rough market

I just think too many teams believe they are in it at this point and are asking for insane premiums. We have financial flexibility right now and i would rather keep it like that to sign lincecum and cain to long term deals rather than take on the likes of Rios unless we get to dump something as well.

You know it’s sad when even the Nats are asking for a premium on Nick Johnson because we all know at night they are duct taping him together. I honestly think the best deal we are going to get is picking up Sanchez or Uggla, with Uggla being more desirable as he fits more of our lack of power.

I’m okay dealing decent prospects as lon gas we dont trade the farm for a Halladay.

I forsee us picking up one of Holliday, Uggla, or Sanchez by the deadline. The Cost? I think the highest cost we will give up is that of Villalona or Alderson, which leaves Posey and Bumgarner 100% untouchable, and obviously IF we traded V or TimA we would need to be getting something pretty awesome back.

by Giant Voodoo on Jul 21, 2009 11:28 AM PDT reply actions  

What’s this about an ion gas leak at the old Halladay farm?

by The Double Deuce on Jul 21, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

long as

typing skillz, i has them.

by Giant Voodoo on Jul 21, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?

by TexasRanger on Jul 21, 2009 11:29 AM PDT reply actions  

Trade Schierholtz?

I’m with you on Lewis, but I’m also failing to grasp the theory that the way to improve our offense is to trade away one of the few people producing.

by GiantPain on Jul 21, 2009 11:30 AM PDT reply actions  

I agree. He’s getting consistent ABs and has been relatively productive. Nate stays unless the deal is so one sided it can’t be passed on.

Hitler was a Dodgers fan.

by The Nick on Jul 21, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

his defense has been solid, but .287/.317/.414 kinda sucks

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 21, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Compared to Bowker

He’s Hank Aaron.

Trade Bowker and Lewis. Nate is a fantastic defender with a cannon and an above average hitter (way above Giant average)

by GiantPain on Jul 21, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow…easy does it… Bowker has played 6 games this year and has reworked his approach at least give him 12 games to prove himself

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 21, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bowker, Schierholtz and Lewis all need more AB’s. It’s unbelievable how Rowand swings at everything in the dirt, yet gets a free pass from Bochy (and Kruk and Kuip).

by boolemaster on Jul 21, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Gamer

He’s a gamer.

Gamer gamer gamer

by GiantPain on Jul 21, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Having the 2nd best wOBA among our starting position players, and 3rd best of the batters on the team (behind ANDRES FREAKING TORRES?! are you kidding me?) doesn’t hurt either

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by Viliphied on Jul 21, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like Rowand, just not at leadoff when he’s slumping.

by GiantPain on Jul 21, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t hate him either, but he definitely should not be batting leadoff anymore (see 2 BB, 18 K for month of July).

by boolemaster on Jul 21, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

he's very streaky

which is what happens with hacktastic players.

Bonds stands alone.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 21, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

unfortunately, with this team, that isn’t saying much.

by boolemaster on Jul 21, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

gamer = overpaid veteran

Bonds stands alone.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 21, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Definition of a “gamer”….

My adopted son Matt Downs . Ranked as the 24th best prospect in the Giants farm system by Baseball America !!

by nvsfg on Jul 21, 2009 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Making a judgment on him after 24 at bats isn’t the best idea.

by Natto on Jul 21, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

HUZZAH!

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by Viliphied on Jul 21, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

well

except for Frandsen, that sucks for him =(

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by Viliphied on Jul 21, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Making moves to show we care.

by DrDC on Jul 21, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you for making the link open in a new window. It woulda taken forever to reload this monster-thread.

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by bgunn on Jul 21, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pro Tip

Cursor on “Link” , Right Click, “Open In A New Window” in pretty much any browser :-)

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by nvsfg on Jul 21, 2009 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

OR

control click/ option click

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by bondslegend on Jul 21, 2009 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

meh

it’s mediocre. With his defense, I think it’s acceptable.

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by Viliphied on Jul 21, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

sure, he’s been acceptable, not great. we’ve got plenty of acceptable.

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 21, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, he still has room to improve, and I think he’s more valuable than Lewis.

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by Viliphied on Jul 21, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not compared to Winn. Winn has a .275/.321/.391 line. Winn’s defense is better, but Nate’s arm has to count for something.

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by KTJ on Jul 21, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great range>>>>>>>>>>>great arm

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 21, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not to overly defend Winn, however. He has been disappointing.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 21, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Schierholtz has both

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by Viliphied on Jul 21, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

well

at least above average range

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by Viliphied on Jul 21, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

that’s still better than Schierholtz’a line for all of it’s wretchedness.

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 21, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

How is it better? I think it’s a wash, but Nate has power, as shown by his minor league numbers. I’d count on him figuring out how to hit up here more than Randy starting to hit better at 35.

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by KTJ on Jul 21, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll definitely take a few points of OBP over a few points of SLG. I’m not sure why counting on Nate to improve is more reasonable than expecting Winn to return to something closer to his career averages.

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 21, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Age is a cruel master. Espically for a baseball player that have build their whole game arround speed.

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by daveinexile on Jul 21, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s a lot of meth.

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by Zetsuboushita on Jul 21, 2009 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

His power is the part that may have left.

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 21, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nate Schierholtz OPS+: 92
Fred Lewis OPS+: 90

by Natto on Jul 21, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I said “relatively.” Taking a walk doesn’t produce ribbbeeeez.

Hitler was a Dodgers fan.

by The Nick on Jul 21, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

But they can lead to them.

by Natto on Jul 21, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

they only count when you drive them in

wait, what?

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 21, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

TIM RAYNES SUX

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 21, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

WILSON ALVAREZ SUCKS

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Jul 21, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is true.

OK…. how about Nate’s Defense > Fred’s Defense by a LONG SHOT.

Hitler was a Dodgers fan.

by The Nick on Jul 21, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah really

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by Viliphied on Jul 21, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

well

I don’t know about “long shot” but it’s better.

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by Viliphied on Jul 21, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lewis has nice metrics, but there isn’t a stat that quantifies “confidence that routine fly balls will be caught.” Nate kills Fred there.

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Jul 21, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

The subjective outrage stat.

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 21, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

i know you're kidding

but this comment made me think about parts of Nate’s D that may not show up in the stats, namely his arm. I know it shows up as outfield assists now, but eventually if he keeps it up, runners are going to think twice about taking the extra bag when they hit a ball to him. That, however, is something that’s really hard to quantify.

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by Viliphied on Jul 21, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

really?

it differentiates between whether a ball would "normally "go for one base or 2?

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by Viliphied on Jul 21, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I believe so. I know for sac flies, it measures how many times a guy gets thrown out as well as whether or not the runner won’t even try.

by DrDC on Jul 21, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

ARM (outfield arm runs): Outfielder’s get credit (plus or minus) depending on what the runners do on a hit or a fly ball out. A runner can stay put, advance, or get thrown out. A fielder will get credit not only if he throws out more than his share of runners, but also if he keeps more than his share of runners from advancing extra bases.

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@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 21, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, nice.

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by jponry on Jul 21, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

UZR will also iron your clothes, if you ask nicely.

by xanthan on Jul 21, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

BUT WILL IT STARCH YOUR SHIRTS???

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by Zetsuboushita on Jul 21, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

IT WILL IRON YOUR JEANS.

DAMN YOU, UZR!

/shakes fist

by xanthan on Jul 21, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

hmm

interesting. I thought that would be harder to track, but it’s cool that they’re doing it.

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by Viliphied on Jul 21, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know people keep track of this stuff for Linear Weights purposes, so I suppose it’s not too difficult to also apply it to UZR.

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by jponry on Jul 21, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Still seems like it’d be pretty fuzzy. Stuff like this should be a lot easier to actually quantify once Hit F/X and Baseball F/X get all the way up and running.

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by Viliphied on Jul 21, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, that’s all in there.

FWIW UZR stays up at night practicing it’s signature with Nate’s last name. It just thinks Lewis is okay, too.

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 21, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

His arm actually does show up in the stats.

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by jponry on Jul 21, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know the actual “throwing people out” part does, but what about “guy sticks with a single instead of trying for 2” or “doesn’t score from 2nd on a single”

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by Viliphied on Jul 21, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, I don’t know if there’s any way to really quantify that.

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by jponry on Jul 21, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

That happens so rarely that it isn’t really significant

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 21, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s probably a vastly overrated baseball concept. I doubt it’s going to mean much in the long run.

ie: JT SNOW IS AWESOME BECAUSE OF HIS BALL-SCOOPING (shut up, Lars!) ABILITIES

In the big scheme, they don’t mean much. Range is the most important factor.

by xanthan on Jul 21, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

well

not THE most important (COUGH VELEZ COUGH), but probably the most important once the glove/routes get up to a ML level.

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by Viliphied on Jul 21, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list and batting .326 in Scottsdale...which I believe has be renamed Rafaelsdale.

by BrianBokake on Jul 21, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

The point is, if another team wants Nate and not Lewis for a good player, why on earth would Nate be untouchable?

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 21, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think either player has enough exposure to where any opposing GM knows enough about either player to want one over the other (if that makes sense).

Hitler was a Dodgers fan.

by The Nick on Jul 21, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

But you have enough exposure to do so?

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 21, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rephrase: But you have seen enough from those players to do so?

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 21, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

We have more exposure to them because we watch every game. Do you think the Twins GM watches every Giants game to critique our fringe prospects?

Hitler was a Dodgers fan.

by The Nick on Jul 21, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not the GM, but the scout.

Also, have you heard of archived video?

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 21, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

also at least 1/2 of the games you watch are on TV, so you don’t really get to “watch” one player enough to scout him. The TV crew decides what you see

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 21, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are you familiar with the concept of scouting? Teams do a lot of this, with a lot of people who aren’t the GM.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 21, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Straw hats and stopwatches!

by Natto on Jul 21, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

sigh

All I’m saying is that I don’t think the difference between the two players would be a deal maker/breaker.

Hitler was a Dodgers fan.

by The Nick on Jul 21, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree…. I would rather have another team argueing over Lewis/Nate than MadBum/Alderson, AnVil/Posey, etc. Any of our left-handed outfielders is expendable in my eyes

by OTTOMATIC on Jul 21, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not a believer in Schierholtz

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on Jul 21, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

or any guy that consistently swings at HBP

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 21, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

ha, I was just about to post something along these lines up above.

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on Jul 21, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, but he might get two bases if he hits it, HBP is only 1

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 21, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Schierholtz doesn’t have a consistent power swing. He’s not a threat to hit dingerz. So, unless Winn disappears, he’s trade bait.

by boolemaster on Jul 21, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

NAH

 To be fair I see Nate looking like a4th OF that could be a good pinch hitter ( check his promising line at it this year) with good defense. What adds extra value to him on a club like the ‘09 & ’10 Giants is he is controlled and should reduce the Gm’s feeling that he needs a Vet to hold the roster together encase of injury while teh upper farm is kind of bare. They should basicaly use him as teh guy to beat out fo playing time.

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by daveinexile on Jul 21, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

that’s pretty much the definition of trade bait.

by boolemaster on Jul 21, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

The “problem” is he provides more value staying here right now then an realictic package that would come bad.

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Jul 21, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

And don't think I didn't notice

…this thinly veiled excuse to rosterbate yet again.

by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 21, 2009 11:32 AM PDT reply actions  

palmy hair

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Jul 21, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jim PalmyHair

"There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live - too rare to die."

by younghutch on Jul 21, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

/ one handed typeing.

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Jul 21, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s not even trying to hide it any more.

"There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live - too rare to die."

by younghutch on Jul 21, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

DFA Aurilia. Vs. LHP: Pablo at 1B, Uribe at 3B, Frandsen at 2B. Explore the option of trading Winn.

This team would be no worse than it currently is, plus it creates openings for Bowker/Schierholtz/Lewis.

by boolemaster on Jul 21, 2009 11:36 AM PDT reply actions  

Why not just play Frandsen at 1B and leave Pablo and Uribe where they are? Or Frandsen at 3rd and leave Uribe. The advantage to a utility IF is that you don’t need to shift the whole infield around when you start him…

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by EliminateMe on Jul 21, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

that’s true, but exposing pablo to 1b occasionally is not a bad thing. he may end up there in the long run. frandsen/uribe are definitely interchangeable, so, yeah, stick him at 3b

by boolemaster on Jul 21, 2009 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I saw a post on a BBTF thread

The difference between C and 1B replacement level batting is 25 runs. Between C and 3B is 10.

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by zenbitz on Jul 21, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

As a pro Uribe guy this last winter I am telling you if we figure on him holding up it will end badly. Very badly.

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Jul 21, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Indeed.

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by Zetsuboushita on Jul 21, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

indeed x100

his AB’s are less than inspirational

by boolemaster on Jul 21, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh I agree

However, Bochy’s decided that Uribe is the starting 2B for now. I’m just saying if you’re bringing Frandsen into the lineup vs LHP you don’t necessarily need to shift everyone else around.

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by EliminateMe on Jul 21, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I get you now. Sorry about that.

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Jul 21, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

agreed, except for pablo, on the off chance sabean is scouting 3B (ie. rolen)

by boolemaster on Jul 21, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fixed with latest roster updates

Why not just play Frandsen Downs at 1B and leave Pablo and Uribe where they are? Or Frandsen Downs at 3rd and leave Uribe. The advantage to a utility IF is that you don’t need to shift the whole infield around when you start him…

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by EliminateMe on Jul 21, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

What about Fielder?

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Jul 21, 2009 11:54 AM PDT reply actions  

Fielder Jones has been dead for 75 years.

by Natto on Jul 21, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Then can we trade Merritt “Sugar” Cain for him?

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/cainsu01.shtml

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 21, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can't wait to find out what the roster move is...

its like New Years, you know its gonna happen and when, and you get all excited and when it happens its meh

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 21, 2009 11:56 AM PDT reply actions  

Bowker is about to kiss a complete stranger.

by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 21, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

had the same exact thought earlier today. though i’ll be slightly more excited than “meh” if aurilia’s dropped.

by boolemaster on Jul 21, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or Rowand is DL.

/ rosterbates harder

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Jul 21, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

i had that flicker of hope, but can’t see that as happening given how boch treated renteria and uribe earlier this year re: nagging injuries

by boolemaster on Jul 21, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, It probably will not happen. But Even Big Head saw what an injure Rowand looks like for mulitple months last season. So maybe, just maybe he has been burned enough to have learned.

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Jul 21, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry if I wouldn’t be enthused about having our 2nd best hitter shelved for any extended period of time.

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by Viliphied on Jul 21, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

He is in a slump and had to come out of a game becuse of an injury. In sum he is not that hitter right now and if a couple weeks gets him back to the Rowand we saw earlier this year I would rather they just pay the price now and get it over with.

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Jul 21, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can see this line of thinking, personally I’d start with 2-3 days off before considering DL time though.

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by Viliphied on Jul 21, 2009 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

you nailed it. the only problem with that is boch will have him pinch hit and then will refuse to DL him even though he’s hurting

by boolemaster on Jul 21, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

stupid bochy.

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by Viliphied on Jul 21, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Normally I would as well.

 But the 25 man is so bullocked up right now and short of the Richie DFA this is the least evil of choices. I doubt Rowand is being considered by other teams right now, it frees up the play time for the young COF candidates and Winn gets his steady P.A.’s to see if he gets his RHB swing back together, other teams see Winn in CF as well for a bit.

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Jul 21, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

great logic…probably not going to happen

by boolemaster on Jul 21, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Your probably correct. And if it did Big Head would play the 31 year old Torress for 15 games straight for all 9 innings because that is jsut the way Big Head rolls.

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Jul 21, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

well... (SSS alert)

Torres has been the 2nd best hitter on the team.

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by Viliphied on Jul 21, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

we don’t have a 2nd best hitter

by boolemaster on Jul 21, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

sure we do.

3/8 of our starting position players have put up above average batting #s this season. (though one is really really close to average)

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by Viliphied on Jul 21, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

2nd least worst?

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on Jul 21, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

We should get rid of an outfielder and bring up Wendell Fairley so that Xanthan can see that he is wrong once again.

Furthermore, I propose that control of this team be turned over to me for the sole purpose of turning it into a testbed for showing Xanthan that he is wrong about everything.

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by Zetsuboushita on Jul 21, 2009 11:56 AM PDT reply actions  

I will see…SEE THAT YOU’RE HELLA RONG!

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by Zetsuboushita on Jul 21, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know what's frustrating

Granted, there is still a lot of the season left, but I feel like none of the questions for our future lineup (Nate, Fred, TI) have been answered. The playing time has been so inexplicable and sporadic, that I have trouble saying anyone is a failure.

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.

@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 21, 2009 11:57 AM PDT reply actions  

Eh. Fred’s been about as close as you can get to one.

TI is pretty spotty, but Nate’s been consistant enough to merit a future spot.

by GiantPain on Jul 21, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fred vs. Nate

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@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 21, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nate’s D is better.

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by Viliphied on Jul 21, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe

Over about 1500 innings, Fred has been ~10 prorated to a full season. Over about 750 innings, Nate has been ~20. Fred’s number is much more reliable due to the larger sample, and there is no way Nate is a +20.

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@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 21, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t be shocked if he totaled around +15 though, with a +20 season or two not completely out of the question

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by Viliphied on Jul 21, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought this was gonna be a rick/roll to a giant octopus vs megashark poster

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 21, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think TI is pretty much who I thought he was

Above average defense but not enough bat to make him a 2 WAR player

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Jul 21, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it's pretty clear what Nate isn't

He isn’t an everyday player. I don’t think we need to give him 500 ABs to figure that out, his minor league numbers make it pretty obvious.

by superk1ng on Jul 21, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

what?

career MiL OPS of .874, AAA OPS above .900 in age 23 and 24 seasons.

That’s not otherworldly but to say that those #s make it “pretty obvious” that he isn’t an everyday player is just silly.

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by Viliphied on Jul 21, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

it's not silly

who gives a shit what his OPS is when he walk rate through out his minor league career, and short ML career is less than 5%. He’s only slightly better than Bengie Molina at walking. He’s going to have to hit .325+ to be a useful player and I really doubt that happens considering he’s a hack.

by superk1ng on Jul 21, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

or

he could hit for power.

He’s an almost average hitter, and brings defensive value. Walk rate isn’t everything, and some people who get into advanced metrics read too much into it. While it’s true that OBP has been undervalued in traditional analysis, overvaluing it is just as harmful.

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by Viliphied on Jul 21, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

If he hits as expected, say per ZiPS, he’s mediocre. I won’t say he has to hit .325 plus to be useful, but he does have to hit .300 to be considered useful, and even then he’s completely replaceable at a position ripe for an upgrade.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 21, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Projection systems aren’t very accurate unless players have a couple years of data under their belt.

by DrDC on Jul 21, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

He has many years of minor league data under his belt. If someone really wants to believe that Schierholtz is going to outperform substantially the projections based on that minor league data and the little major-league data we have, that he’s going to take a significant jump forward, then hey, knock yourself out.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 21, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

It happens. Not saying it’s likely, but it happens. But you are correct.

by DrDC on Jul 21, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

or better yet

like other good Doctor, throw yourself down the stairs…

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on Jul 21, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

well

his ZIPS projection is a little below average, but not much (.331 overall, .342 rest of season), and UZR creams its pants when it hears his name.

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by Viliphied on Jul 21, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

To be fair, he is at an age at which he is still expected to improve. We haven’t had a lot of that in recent years…

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 21, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am not overvaluing it

I am saying HE DOES NOT WALK. He is almost as bad as Bengie Molina in his hackery. His offensive skill set is dreadful and offers very little upside. The best case scenario with him is Jeff Francoeur. I like him as a defensive replacement or pinch hitter, but that’s about it.

Also, he is not an almost average hitter, he is well below average. A .311 wOBA is not even close to average.

by superk1ng on Jul 21, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

the site is rather slow at the moment… well at least it is for me.

by Merope on Jul 21, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

To be fair, Schierholtz is better than Francoeur now. 2007 Francoeur is probably Schierholtz’s upside.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 21, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am not overvaluing it

I am saying HE DOES NOT WALK. He is almost as bad as Bengie Molina in his hackery. His offensive skill set is dreadful and offers very little upside. The best case scenario with him is Jeff Francoeur. I like him as a defensive replacement or pinch hitter, but that’s about it.

Also, he is not an almost average hitter, he is well below average. A .311 wOBA is not even close to average.

by superk1ng on Jul 21, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

The reason the questions have not been answered

Is because the players aren’t very good.

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on Jul 21, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well

They could be answered in the negative, but I feel like they haven’t really been given a fair, consistent shot to succeed or fail.

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@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 21, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

well they are not terrible either

except Burriss, he was terrible. And Frandsen…. I guess he’s some sort of puppy kicker.

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by zenbitz on Jul 21, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I was just hoping that out of the three, one would have revealed himself as a decent player by now. And Frandsen must have kicked every puppy he could find. Some multiple times.

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@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 21, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still like a trade with Tampa for a player like Zobrist. Tampa could use a closer and we could trade Affeldt, Romo, or Wilson. Romo’s recent suckyness doesn’t help. Or, maybe they part with Upton cheap he’s having an awful year, Lewis wouldn’t be much of a downgrade the way Upton is playing and they could add an Affeldt- that would really help the Rays’ playoff chances me thinks

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by cybermaldonado on Jul 21, 2009 12:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Grant has always had an irrational hatred for Ben Zobrist. I’ve spent hours trying to convince him that Zobrist is a good player, but Grant will have nothing of it.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 21, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

there is no way tampa trades zobrist now

by boolemaster on Jul 21, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or Upton!!!

Saving countless runs with my Brian Horwitz

by lyricalkiller on Jul 21, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you’re wondering what the chances are of Tampa Bay parting with Zobrist in exchange for any of our relievers, allow me to introduce you to “Slim” and “None.”

"He is Tim Lincecum...the Most Interesting Pitcher in the World."

by Kitspool on Jul 21, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

you might want to take a look at Upton’s “horrible year” statswise

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by Speedforthewin on Jul 21, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I asked Keith Law in a chat last season (either May or June)

If the Giants should trade Brian Wilson or Jack Taschner (LOL me) to the Rays for Zobrist.

He pretty much said there was no f-in way that the Giants should trade Wilson for Zobrist because he had pretty much no power.

Then Zobrist proceeded to see his power explode all over the place.

Weird how things turn out.

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Jul 21, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Andrew Baggarly said in his blog a few weeks ago that Zobrist was never actually available.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 21, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rosterbation with a married man?

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by jhiat00 on Jul 21, 2009 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

You aren’t lying.

Saving countless runs with my Brian Horwitz

by lyricalkiller on Jul 21, 2009 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

You found it before I did, hahhaha

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Jul 21, 2009 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s down on Brandon Crawford and high on Tim Alderson and Brooks Kieschnick in that chat.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 21, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't Panic

Sheesh. Had we won one more of these past four no one would be making a fuss. They will get back on track soon.

by positiveuphemism on Jul 21, 2009 12:15 PM PDT reply actions  

not so sure about the no fuss part

sunday’s win and yesterday’s loss (mostly not the fault of the lineup) showed how vulnerable this team is offensively. the main fuss should be about how the vets have as worse hitting habits than the younger guys.

by boolemaster on Jul 21, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would like to see a trade that upgrades one of 1B, 2B, or OF and then let the kids get more at bats in the other two positions. It is an improvement (in theory) and also lets us figure out who should be with the big club for next year’s division winning team.

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by jhiat00 on Jul 21, 2009 12:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Bt if you get another outfielder, that creates even more of a logjam, which makes it even harder to “let the kids play”.

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by Goofus on Jul 21, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Honestly, I would like to see more ABs for Lewis, Schierholtz and Lewis. I don’t know how this happens, but it needs to happen

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by Speedforthewin on Jul 21, 2009 12:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Both Lewises need more at bats!

by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 21, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is that the good Lewis and the bad Lewis?

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by jhiat00 on Jul 21, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes. meant lewis, schierholtz and bowker

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by Speedforthewin on Jul 21, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

we need to separate them. somehow

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by Speedforthewin on Jul 21, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I shudder to think...

what this Team would look like if McC poster ran it

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 21, 2009 12:22 PM PDT reply actions  

1. SS Bocock
2. CF EME
3. C Holm
4. 1B Guzman
5. 2B Frandsen
6. 3B Aurilia
7. LF Torres
8. RF Velez
9. P Sadowski

by xanthan on Jul 21, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

JACKS WILLS!!!!!

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Jul 21, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

How could I have forgotten JACKS?

by xanthan on Jul 21, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d put Fairley in LF.

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by Zetsuboushita on Jul 21, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Particularly amused by the overall OF arrangement.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 21, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Xanthan's lineup

SS Uribe
CF Uribe
C Uribe
1B Uribe
2B Uribe
3B Uribe
LF Uribe
RF Uribe
P Uribe

by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 21, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fixed
Xanthan’s lineup

SS Uribe
CF Uribe
C Uribe
1B Uribe
2B Uribe
3B Uribe
LF Fairley
RF Uribe
P Uribe

by xanthan on Jul 21, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

OH GOD NO

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by Zetsuboushita on Jul 21, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Plus Fairley and Williams

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Jul 21, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

why SS Uribe over CF Uribe?

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 21, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lars lineup:

3B Pie Traynor
CF Felix Pie
LF Apple Pie
RF Pecan Pie
1B Cherry Pie
2B Pumpkin Pie
SS Rhubarb Pie
C Triple Berry Pie
P Peach Pie

by Hobbes2d on Jul 21, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s an odd combination of players loved and players despised by MCC regulars.

If the team was really run by MCC, someone would be DFAd pretty much every day.

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.

by EliminateMe on Jul 21, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s for the lulz.

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by Zetsuboushita on Jul 21, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lars’ lineup has me really wanting to clone 9 Juan Uribe’s now.

by xanthan on Jul 21, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure the catering costs along would force the Giants to take out another mortgage on AT&T Park.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 21, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mewbs

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Jul 21, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

that’s booby jenks to you.

"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"

by The Gene Hackman on Jul 21, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like this but with Juan Uribe? YOU MONSTER

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by Zetsuboushita on Jul 21, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but it would probably be funnier than that since Mad TV has never been funny!

by xanthan on Jul 21, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

You make me sad.
/adds “Hates Mad TV” to “Things I Hate About Xanthan” list

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by Zetsuboushita on Jul 21, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

You like Mad TV? Weirdo!

Maybe I’m the only one who thinks it’s generally unfunny.

by xanthan on Jul 21, 2009 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

No. No, you’re not. Though that Dane Cook impression someone linked to a while ago was genuinely funny.

by Grant Brisbee on Jul 21, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that one was pretty good. I liked it, but mostly because I hate Dane Cook so much. The impression was good, though.

by xanthan on Jul 21, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because he's hot and you're not?

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Jul 21, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Your circuits are overheating?

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Jul 21, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think you need a new fan.

by Natto on Jul 21, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Xanthan’s CPU heatsink is a shred of aluminum foil wrapped around a toothpick.

Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
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by Zetsuboushita on Jul 21, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol.

My heatsink is none of your bees wax!

by xanthan on Jul 21, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bees wax is what you use to interface your heatsink with your CPU.

Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ

by Zetsuboushita on Jul 21, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

HOW’D (the CPU) GET BURNED? HOW’D IT GET BURNED?!

Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ

by Zetsuboushita on Jul 21, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let’s be friends again. I’m going to mail you my entire Juan Uribe Starting Lineup Figure collection.

by xanthan on Jul 21, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

They’ll have an honored place inside my fireplace.

Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
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by Zetsuboushita on Jul 21, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh I agree it’s generally not funny, but it has its moments.

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BRING BACK MARMOL!
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
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by Zetsuboushita on Jul 21, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mad TV has never been good.

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Jul 21, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mad TV is useful

when you are working at home by yourself and you need something stupid on TV in the background that you won’t actually pay attention, yet is not a talk show or infomercial.

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on Jul 21, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is “Wings” not on anymore?

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Jul 21, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why would you need something on TV? Are you aware that TVs are allowed to be turned off?

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Jul 21, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I DON'T HAVE TO 'SPLAIN MY SELF TO YOU DAWG

Ill seriuslollly mess u up.

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on Jul 21, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's afraid to push the "Power" button...

…just like Emmanuel Burriss.

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.

by EliminateMe on Jul 21, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ive seen 2 madtv things I thought were funny

some skit making fun of kenny rogers running a BBQ place, and the aforementioned dane cook impression. Mostly that show is meh

Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on Jul 21, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

The iRack was also pretty funny. But yeah, that show sucks.

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.

by cheno on Jul 21, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

cloning 9 Richie’s comes first.

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Jul 21, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

/DFAs Zetsuboushita

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.

by EliminateMe on Jul 21, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would be 2006; sorry.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Jul 21, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sad thing is the starting 8 migtht not have been worse then the starting 8 in the fist Pit game. Way to set the tone there Big Head.

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Jul 21, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

No LOLCats?

Proud parent of Frederick Charles Merkle.

by jhiat00 on Jul 21, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I shudder to think what this team would look like if SFGate posters ran it.

by Natto on Jul 21, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I shudder to think what anything would look like if SFGate posters ran it.

"He is Tim Lincecum...the Most Interesting Pitcher in the World."

by Kitspool on Jul 21, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not entirely convinced that SFGate isn’t run by its posters.

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BRING BACK MARMOL!
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ

by Zetsuboushita on Jul 21, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

lulz

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 21, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably like the finacial system

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 21, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Topical!

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 21, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

The team wouldn’t even play, they’d be blocked by SF Gate editors.

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Jul 21, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

what would the team look like if GRM ran it?

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by Speedforthewin on Jul 21, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

All Press Releases Would Look LIke This

by Natto on Jul 21, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

And be full of misspellings.

by xanthan on Jul 21, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

3B Fat Itchiro

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BRING BACK MARMOL!
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ

by Zetsuboushita on Jul 21, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

All Press Relaeses Would Look LIKe Thsi

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Jul 21, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

And they would also all be slightly insulting.

by xanthan on Jul 21, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey leave me out of this!

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Jul 21, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone have love for Brock Bond?

OK, maybe his D isn’t stellar. And his SB% suggests a guy running in sand. But he’s a second base prospect who gets on base. A lot. Which happens to be the most significant skill we lack. At the position where we need the most help. Grade A prospect? No. But a maybe possible why not see what he can do sort of prospect?

by Giantsfan4life on Jul 21, 2009 12:45 PM PDT reply actions  

I liked him when his name was Travis Denker.

/reopens old wounds

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 21, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

he pretty much stopped hitting, last I checked

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 21, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

He died of a broken heart.

by xanthan on Jul 21, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Remember that one Denker HR?

That was sweet….

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Jul 21, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I actually missed it.

I was in China.

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 21, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chinese scouting:

do you know what a baseball is? If so, you’ve got a leg up on everyone else!

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 21, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Parenting FAIL

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Jul 21, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Denker would be the starting 2B right now

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Jul 21, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the solution is simple

Trade our bad players for good players

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 21, 2009 12:45 PM PDT reply actions  

LOL FRANDSEN DOWN

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konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ

by Zetsuboushita on Jul 21, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

MANAGEMENT FAIL

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Jul 21, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

it’s like they’re going out of their way to not give him a chance.

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 21, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why in hell would they send Frandsen down and bring Downs back up? Is this like a competition based on who can do the best in 4 AB per week and one chance in the field?

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 21, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's a psychological test

Which of these guys can handle the abuse best.

"I can't hit the ball until I hit the bottle!"

by Li on Jul 21, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s a reality show.

by DrDC on Jul 21, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Kevin Frandsen....

…YOU are the weakest link!

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.

by EliminateMe on Jul 21, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought it was You ARE…

Just saying.

by DrDC on Jul 21, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

your the weakest link

Proud parent of Frederick Charles Merkle.

by jhiat00 on Jul 21, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

There both the weakest link

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.

by EliminateMe on Jul 21, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

there weaker then all other links.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Jul 21, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

THAN, cot dammit!!!

Hold it, that’s yourself, mang. You were making a joke.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Jul 21, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

your sure?

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Jul 21, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now you are pushing it.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Jul 21, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

That picture was already posted in this thread.

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.

@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 21, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Too many pictures. I’m stunned.

by DrDC on Jul 21, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously?

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.

@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 21, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

What’s the point of switching Frandsen with Downs? Do they hate him that much?

by Natto on Jul 21, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

the FO clearly hates Frandsen

by boolemaster on Jul 21, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, he DID complain publicly and say he might be better used elsewhere.

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Jul 21, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

My only hope is that now he’ll get more PT. He wasn’t going to get it here, so maybe…I don’t know.

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.

@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 21, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Downs is going to be the everyday 2B, so he COULD have gotten it here.

by AndOnTheDrums... on Jul 21, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t realize that when I posted, but that just adds to the level of crazy. I assumed they were bringing Downs up to be the backup.

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.

@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 21, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope, Bochy is making Uribe the backup again.

It’s a freaking circus out there.

by DrDC on Jul 21, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wacky Sax plays all day long in the front office.

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.

@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 21, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hot Bothan Sex all day long in the front office!?!??!

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Jul 21, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Frandsen stole Sabean’s lunch

by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 21, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe they do this b/c Franny has been or is going in a trade?

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 21, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m neither a Frandsen hata nor a huge fan, but I think this is totally stupid and WORSE than a lateral move. Give him a chance while there’s a lull before a trade for another infielder, at least. He’s shown signs that he can hit too, just that he’s been rather unlucky. He should be totally fed up with this organization.

by Duelling Brandos on Jul 21, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

I’m with you on this.

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Jul 21, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ummmm….

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 21, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

does Richie go on the DL with anxiety disorder?

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Jul 21, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

does Richie go on the DL with anxiety majorly sucky disorder?

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Jul 21, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pulled suck muscle.

/kicks it old school

by Grant Brisbee on Jul 21, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

GET OFF OUR LAWN

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on Jul 21, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

ran out of smelling salts

by boolemaster on Jul 21, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pulled a muscle while fake bunting

by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 21, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oldtimers’ Disease

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 21, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

What a bizzare move. Frandsen actually looked decent during the few AB’s I saw of him in the Pirates series. Downs … just isn’t that good.

by xanthan on Jul 21, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

FRANDSEN HASN’T PROVED HIMSELF IN HIS 39 AT BATS. HE’S A BUST>

by Natto on Jul 21, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

And Anyone Who Tihnks Otherwsie Is Blinded By Your Rage

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Jul 21, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Your Stats Don’t Apply Bcuase The Giants Have Scouting

Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ

by Zetsuboushita on Jul 21, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

heh

you mean silicoid and titanium photoreceptors

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on Jul 21, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve got lazer eyes

and I know what you’re thinking

by xanthan on Jul 21, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just curious, why titanium? Wouldn’t you typically use a gallium alloy?

Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ

by Zetsuboushita on Jul 21, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

not for the frame, dumb ass

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
-------
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by zenbitz on Jul 21, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

OIC

Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ

by Zetsuboushita on Jul 21, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Lineup"

CF Winn
RF Bowker
3B Sandoval
1B Ishikawa
LF Lewis
SS Renteria
2B Downs
C Whiteside
P Sadowski

by Natto on Jul 21, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I liked my lineups better.

by xanthan on Jul 21, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

perfect amount of Lewis though

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Jul 21, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

SHUT THE FUCK UP

Downs gets to start. FUCK BOCHY. WTF is going on?

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.

@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 21, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

FRED LEWIS DOESN’T GET TO START FOR LIKE THREE WEEKS AND THEN HE GETS A START AND BATS FIFTH

BRUCE BOCHY WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 21, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

somebody has to hit 5th and Bruce doesn’t really have a lot options in that regard.

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 21, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s the jump to conclusions mat.

by xanthan on Jul 21, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

it's a cows opinion

a moo point

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on Jul 21, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know, it just seems kind of funny to me.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 21, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

it is funny. just not in a ha ha kinda way.

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 21, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Switching Bowker and Fred would make more sense

Though I don’t care that much

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Jul 21, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

the fith slot has been hilarious this year.

Fifth: Mathematically, Someone Has to Hit There.

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 21, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

while the 4th spot has been very sad.

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 21, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Every spot that’s not Pablo or Rowand (when he was hot) has been pretty sad.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 21, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

sad, but consistently filled by the same players. The fifth slot has been filled by whatever’s lying around, including some spent AA batteries and a 2005 issue of Entertainment Weekly.

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 21, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

No LOLCats?

Proud parent of Frederick Charles Merkle.

by jhiat00 on Jul 21, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lolineup

CF Winn
RF Bowker
3B Sandoval
1B Ishikawa
LF Lewis
SS Renteria
2B Downs
C Whiteside
P Sadowski

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 21, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not as bad as it could be. At least it doesn’t make me want to spork my eyes out.

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Jul 21, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

right, regular plastic fork will do.

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 21, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Molinia out of the #4. Banged up Scott out of #1. A Lewis sighting. A Bowker sighting. Winn in Cf. Not much Torress. I almost wonder if Big Head is in the hospital or something.

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Jul 21, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

what would happen if Bochy put a Bowker-Lewis-Schierholtz OF out there for a game?

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Jul 21, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

/BRAINSPLODE

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Jul 21, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

we would know that a lefty isn’t the opposing SP

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 21, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

This wins.

Although, what would happen if Bochy put that OF against a lefty?

/EARTHSPLODE

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"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Kevin Frandsen, come back!

by WalrusMan on Jul 22, 2009 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

He was a RF for most of his farm days.

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Jul 21, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

So richie might be released after all?

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Jul 21, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

WE NEED A RALLY FRED SUBTHREAD

BEAT LA! BEAT LA! BEAT LA! BEAT LA!

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Jul 21, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

FREDEMPTION 09 STARTS NOW

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 21, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 21, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 21, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

that’s the cover of the Boy’s Guide to Puberty.

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 21, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I nearly spit my lunch out there.

"He is Tim Lincecum...the Most Interesting Pitcher in the World."

by Kitspool on Jul 21, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I actually didn’t see what he was doin the first time

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 21, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Frandsen’s gotta be demanding a trade right about now.

by boolemaster on Jul 21, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

or loading a revolver

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 21, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Front office ADHD

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 21, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

this is pretty much a lateral move

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 21, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

just pick a AAAA middle infielder and stick with one!

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 21, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Second base is this year’s answer to last year’s shortstop “situation”

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Jul 21, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

time to call up Noonan

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 21, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fire up the San Jose -San Francisco Shuttle again

by wilriv21 on Jul 21, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gillaspie

has it in his contract>
Gillaspie: You PROMISED!

by Giant Homer on Jul 21, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

bonus spot?

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on Jul 21, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

what the fuck

why would they send Frandsen down for Downs???

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 21, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

didn’t you see his error last night?…he clearly can’t handle the rigors of the MLB

and Bochabean hates him

by boolemaster on Jul 21, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d rather have Bocock again.

by xanthan on Jul 21, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

TWSS

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.

by zenbitz on Jul 21, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

this move really makes no sense.. at least frandsen can play a few other positions…maybe they want to try downs at 1b against LHP?

by boolemaster on Jul 21, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have to think

that Frandsen is going to be in a trade in the next few days, and Aurilia is either released or perma DL’d.

by jctGamer on Jul 21, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

where’s the logic in sending him down, though? to keep him fresh for his new team?

by boolemaster on Jul 21, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

So we have a body to play 2B today (and backup infielders..etc)

by jctGamer on Jul 21, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Frandsen could have been that body.

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.

@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 21, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

not if he’s on his way to Pittsburgh!

by jctGamer on Jul 21, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe, but it's unlikely

The deal would have to be done for them to sit on a player like that.

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.

@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 21, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I appreciate the attempt. The move is a head scratcher and will require outside the box thinking.

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.

@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 21, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

One observation though : Richie to DL allows him to be reactivated onto the team when the roster expands on Sept 1st.

Just a thought vs outright releasing him.

by jctGamer on Jul 21, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

So they’re going to keep him on the DL for over a month?

"He is Tim Lincecum...the Most Interesting Pitcher in the World."

by Kitspool on Jul 21, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

The imaginary muscle might experience setback in the rehab.

by jctGamer on Jul 21, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

not if he’s on his way to Pittsburgh!

Franny for LaRoche? That almost makes sense in a twisted way.

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Jul 21, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

The rumor was Franny, Ishi, and Pucetas for LaRoche and Sanchez!!!

by OTTOMATIC on Jul 21, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes that is good giggle.

/ chuckles

But for LaRoche himself, barely a type B at the end of June. On a team whos upper farm MI depth is basically Bixlar I could see were a team controlled Frandsen might bey worth more than 2 months of LaRoche to them. Especaily if they try and get out from underneth Sanchez’s $8MM next season and the insulting take it or leave it offer the just made public.

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Jul 21, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh but they have Brad Lincoln! Drafted 6 spots before Lincecum!

LINCLOLN

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 21, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

He might be able to bat clean up for us.
Or did I go too far?

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Jul 21, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can never go too far with the Giants cleanup jokes.

by DrDC on Jul 21, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

frandsen played well at 2b earlier this year…this move is odd

by boolemaster on Jul 21, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously

Stop screwing with our young players; enough is frigging enough. Give Frandsen a goddamn shot!

Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.

by Aadik on Jul 21, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

If they made a move, it feels to me like there is a huge possibility that they’d screw up the future. It seems like they’d be better off to not make a trade. If another team wants to salary dump a power hitter to the Giants for mid-level prospects, I’d do that.

If they could get a good hitter for Sanchez, I’d do that too. I don’t think the Giants will be able to give long term deals to Lincecum, Cain, and Sanchez and therefore it makes sense to part with Sanchez if you can get some hitting in return.

by parisspleen on Jul 21, 2009 12:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Lineup

CF Winn
RF Bowker
3B Sandoval
1B Ishikawa
LF Lewis
SS Renteria
2B Downs
C Whiteside
P Sadowski

by boolemaster on Jul 21, 2009 12:52 PM PDT reply actions  

I really like 1-5

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 21, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then I vomited

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 21, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

this is not a horrendous lineup…at least we get to see bowker and lewis

by boolemaster on Jul 21, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know what's so good about this lineup?

Our cleanup hitter does not have a wOBA of .287

by jctGamer on Jul 21, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh Kevin, why….

Proud new co-dad of Travis Ishikawa. And ishikaBOOM Goes the Dynamite.

by Andy from DC on Jul 21, 2009 1:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Downs for Frandsen seems kind of panicky to me.

THROW SHIT AT THE WALL. SEE WHAT STICKS.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 21, 2009 1:01 PM PDT reply actions  

IN < 10 PAs!

Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl

by Viliphied on Jul 21, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

But hey, no pressure.

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.

by EliminateMe on Jul 21, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

what if...

i don’t think i have read anyone asking the question… what if our young prospects don’t work out? i think some fans may be hanging their hat on the future of our young guys too much. sure bumgarner, alderson, villalona, and posey are doing great, but we have had great young prospects in the past that did not pan out. jesse foppert? he is playing in a bay area wood bat league right now as we speak. francisco liriano? everyone couldn’t understand why we traded him… management felt he could be injury prone, hello, they were right! personally i am only truly sold on bumgarner and posey, somewhat on villalona. so i agree with everyone when i say they are untouchable. as for anyone else, i think you have to have an open mind. you have to take advantage of opportunities when they arise, and believe or not as of right now, we have a great opportunity to contend. if we can make the playoffs, you never know what can happen, our pitching staff is the type you don’t want to face in a series. i am just as excited about the future as the next guy, but you have to be realistic, there are a lot of variables to consider…i am not saying give up the farm to get anyone that can help our offense, but i am saying don’t give up on the present so quickly, don’t stand pat and hope we can play well down the stretch of the 2nd half, and don’t be so quick to say our future is a sure World series appearance or two… cause you never know… if you are betting on the future and you don’t see the results you are expecting, don’t come back here whining about “we should’ve traded back in 09 when we had a chance”…

by Do_the_research on Jul 21, 2009 1:01 PM PDT reply actions  

words between the lines of age

"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"

by The Gene Hackman on Jul 21, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lines between the word of rage

"The dreams ain't broken down here now, they're walking with a limp" --TW

by bgunn on Jul 21, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Block O’ Text

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 21, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

/gets the ranch out of the fridge and hands it to walrusman

Proud parent of Frederick Charles Merkle.

by jhiat00 on Jul 21, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

That reminds me. I went to the Boardwalk yesterday and had their deep fried artichoke hearts. And dipped them in ranch. Mmmmmmm Mmm.

The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Kevin Frandsen, come back!

by WalrusMan on Jul 22, 2009 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh geez, not that guy....

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Jul 21, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

What is my aunt had a sausage between her legs? Does that make her my uncle?

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Jul 21, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t read the whole thing because lol wall of text but yes, sometimes prospects don’t work out. You should still value them correctly.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 21, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can’t read, left field?

by xanthan on Jul 21, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fred? :D:

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Jul 21, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do_the_punctuation!

Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list and batting .326 in Scottsdale...which I believe has be renamed Rafaelsdale.

by BrianBokake on Jul 21, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Paragraphs are not to be feared. They are your friend.

Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list and batting .326 in Scottsdale...which I believe has be renamed Rafaelsdale.

by BrianBokake on Jul 21, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

remember

i am on your side.. lol.. just voicing an opinion and seeing if others agree

by Do_the_research on Jul 21, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

fear not, they do that all the time to everybody.
including themselves.

"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"

by The Gene Hackman on Jul 21, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

No one is actually disagreeing with you, they’re just telling you to format your thoughts better so we can read it. The snark comes free of charge with every comment posted.

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.

@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 21, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

sweet

i didn’t catch that in the brochure

by Do_the_research on Jul 21, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude,
This is close to impossible to read. Didn’t your mamma ever teach you about paragraphs?

My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

by Goofus on Jul 21, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

my apologies

i was unaware that i was writing an english lit paper that needs to be properly formatted.
thanks for the heads up!

by Do_the_research on Jul 21, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

it just makes it easier

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 21, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why do people say this? Is hitting the enter key to break up your thoughts really the equal to writing an english lit paper?

by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 21, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, yes, yes it is.

by xanthan on Jul 21, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

How would a computer know anything about effort?

by Natto on Jul 21, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

In middle school, I’d write my papers in all lower case with almost no punctuation just so my peer editor would have something to do.

Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ

by Zetsuboushita on Jul 21, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’re very considerate!

by Natto on Jul 21, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

you are bustin' me up man.

who installed the comedy circuit?

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.

by zenbitz on Jul 21, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m always funny, but you never notice because you’re never sober.

by xanthan on Jul 21, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

People get awfully defensive about writing lazily on the internet.

by Natto on Jul 21, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

What if my ENTER key breaks?

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 21, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

i’m on the internet voicing opinions and sharing thoughts about a team i have no control over, of course i am being lazy

by Do_the_research on Jul 21, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

seriously

i was just being a smarta**
i undertsand the purpose of paragraphs, i’ll use them going forward. i was clearly unaware that failing to do so would urk so many folks… sorry guys… lol

by Do_the_research on Jul 21, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you for handling it with out threats and swearing

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 21, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

i rarely get rowled up in person, why would i let harmless internet banter get to me?

by Do_the_research on Jul 21, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

You clearly missed the Billy Mays incident

Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl

by Viliphied on Jul 21, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s more just that when you write a big wall of text like that, no matter how good whatever you’ve written in it is, most people on the internet will just have their eyes glaze over after like two sentences.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 21, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just dont make an attempt anymore, nothing personal but it hurts my eyes

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 21, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

THAN, dammit!!! Oh, wait-- nevermind. Sorry.

(But would it kill you to use a period there instead of the erroneous comma?)

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Jul 21, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

we’re just as lazy, if not lazier

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 21, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

or the ADD takes control

by Merope on Jul 21, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

i understand that now, i have no problem reading whatever and however it’s written, as long it has a valid point. like i said though, i will respect the wishes of my fellow giants fans and format my thoughts better in the future. I don’t want to inflict any more pain than the current state of our current offense does.

by Do_the_research on Jul 21, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

that was two and a half lines there. you’re pushing it, buddy.

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on Jul 21, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s funny how much the internet has changed the perception of what constitues a long paragraph. I will find myself putting in paragraph breaks usually after no more than 2 or 3 sentences. But if you had told James Joyce he needed to write shorter paragraphs, he would have laughed out loud and then beaten you to death with a stick.

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.

by EliminateMe on Jul 21, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Bitch, are you for real?”

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 21, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

LOL

Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Jul 21, 2009 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was almost able to read that whole thing. but I got tired and

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 21, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

James Joyce never had to get through a thread with 700 silly posts about second basemen and death threats.

by Evan on Jul 21, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chuck Norris could read all these posts!

with his eyes closed

Congratulations and Thank you Jonathan Sanchez.

by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 21, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chuck Norris would have given that paragraph a roundhouse to the chin!

Proud parent of Frederick Charles Merkle.

by jhiat00 on Jul 21, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chuck Norris

would have deleted it, saving the world from reading.

by DrDC on Jul 21, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

His publishers used better fonts and spacing.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 21, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

tl;dr

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.

by zenbitz on Jul 21, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

IRK damn you IRK!!!

Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list and batting .326 in Scottsdale...which I believe has be renamed Rafaelsdale.

by BrianBokake on Jul 22, 2009 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

And that concludes today’s episode of “If Jack Kerouac were still alive and posting on a Giants fan blog”

"He is Tim Lincecum...the Most Interesting Pitcher in the World."

by Kitspool on Jul 21, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Out loud I laughed.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Jul 21, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hell, you should see what happens to people who misuse:
 their/there/they’re
or
your/you’re/yore

bloodshed!!!

by Merope on Jul 21, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

and, of course, than/then.

The others are errors, but usually don’t lead to ambiguity. The then/than one often does. GRRRR.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Jul 21, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Executive mayoral summary for executives or mayors:

1. Future is unknown.
2. Prospects are uncertain.
3. 2.5 prospects are worth protecting.
4. Can’t “give up farm” (a.k.a. “mortgaging future”) to win now.
5. Notwithstanding #4, can’t undervalue current opportunity at expense of overvaluing future opportunities (see #1).
6. You never know.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Jul 21, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Use It .

My adopted son Matt Downs . Ranked as the 24th best prospect in the Giants farm system by Baseball America !!

by nvsfg on Jul 21, 2009 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just got this sweet offer via email

TICKET MANAGER – Camelback Ranch – Los Angeles Dodgers – Spring Training Facility (GLENDALE, AZ)

Thanks, MLB. Why don’t you just ship me a dreadwig.

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Jul 21, 2009 1:11 PM PDT reply actions  

On a related note

This ad on the front page of McC makes me uneasy.

by Natto on Jul 21, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll take five.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 21, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

What’s wrong with fermented soy beans?

Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ

by Zetsuboushita on Jul 21, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did you find your perfect match?

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 21, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

no way

this is a golden opportunity. Perfect Matches = Natto. Just sit back and wait for the phone numbers to roll in…

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 21, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I got here late and there are too many posts to read. Could someone summarize this thread for me, please?

by Evan on Jul 21, 2009 1:26 PM PDT reply actions  

- Legit baseball talk
- Juan Uribe sucks
- Billy Mays
- U DED DAWG
- /thread goes to hell

by xanthan on Jul 21, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

What was actually said about Billy Mays, I think it was deleted?

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 21, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

And the guy freaked out?

lol wut

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 21, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Greatest. Freakout. Ever.

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.

@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 21, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Someway asked who is said I deserve guarante

i answered Billy Mays (which is true, he did say it)

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 21, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Geez, someone had their Cheerios peed in

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 21, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

it was literally just his name

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 21, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ

by Zetsuboushita on Jul 21, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

YOU DEAD DAWG

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 21, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

can’t wait to get home to see this

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 21, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m kind of sad we don’t play the Nats anymore because it was fun saying YOU OUT, DAWG whenever Dukes struck out.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 21, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

  • We’re cool with trading Alderson and one/or of the billion young OFs we hae.
  • We’re immature 5 year olds.

by Natto on Jul 21, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

if you mention Billy Hayes’s name some guy will inexplicably go off on you.

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 21, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

no i just think ppl should get lives in which they dont have.

by Mannybeatsfranny on Jul 21, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

get busy livin or get busy dyin

by boolemaster on Jul 21, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Andy was framed!

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 21, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not me!

Honest!

(and LOL BILLY MAYS)

by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 21, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

TOO MANY FUCKING TANGENTS IN THIS THREAD

I can’t keep up with all the discussions here at work. WTF

by jctGamer on Jul 21, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have been trying to read this thread for about 10 minutes and I am even more confused. Who are we trading fer and who are we getting rid of? Also something about Frandsen getting screwed again.

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 21, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

From what I understand

Kevin Frandsen was optioned to Fresno and the Ginats recalled a dead horse to play 2nd base

Congratulations and Thank you Jonathan Sanchez.

by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 21, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was a horse with no name…

by Merope on Jul 21, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

and a player to be named later (Billy Mays?)

Proud parent of Frederick Charles Merkle.

by jhiat00 on Jul 21, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

come see me at chase field sf@az. I’ll mess you up dood

Proud parent of Frederick Charles Merkle.

by jhiat00 on Jul 21, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe the horse will take a pitch

Congratulations and Thank you Jonathan Sanchez.

by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 21, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

DONT HAVE WHAT? WHAT? I MUST KNOW!!!

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 21, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Umm what?

Dude I understand that you knew Mr. Mays, but you got to chill, nobody here is being disrespectful to him. In fact you are the one who is bringing it up over and over again. So here is what you do take a chill pill and go sit in a corner.

Wilber Bucardo: Carlos Silva with a younger brother.

by gianator on Jul 21, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe a few minutes on the “naughty steps”?

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 21, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought Billy Mays was a dork

but I really shouldn’t matter.

in the big picture.

by FreshStart on Jul 21, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

rosterbation and be careful what you say about dead people

by boolemaster on Jul 21, 2009 1:27 PM PDT reply actions  

The way I’m picturing it though, I’m only thinking that Bumgarner and Posey have a great chance to be really good. And most people think that too. They are like in the top 25, if not the top 10, in all of baseball’s prospects and Bumgarner is in the top 5. Even if one of those two turn out to be an all-star, it would be worth it to wait and not trade them. There’s a good chance that one, if not both of these guys, are going to make the team a lot better in the next few years.

Making a big trade and having Halladay, Rolen, and Vernon Wells on this team is not very appealing to me. Guys like Halladay and Rolen are seemingly always hurt.

by parisspleen on Jul 21, 2009 1:31 PM PDT reply actions  

some people on this site dont even talk about baseball

making fun of dead people i hope you guys grow up, like you think making fun of dead ppl is funny, just wow, just wow.

by Mannybeatsfranny on Jul 21, 2009 1:33 PM PDT reply actions  

GOOD GRIEF

NO ONE IS MAKING FUN OF BILLY MAYS
CALM DOWN

by Natto on Jul 21, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where’s that dead horse graphic?

by Merope on Jul 21, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  


Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.

@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 21, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

My mistake.

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.

@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 21, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

now THAT's funny

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Jul 21, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope

Although I noticed the thread functionality went south once I posted those two, and for that I apologize.

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.

@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 21, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like the last one best.

by DrDC on Jul 21, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

It would be entirely wrong for anyone to edit that gif to replace the horse with Billy Mays. ENTIRELY WRONG AND I WON’T CONDONE IT.

by Evan on Jul 21, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

WHAT!!! you took my paid personel leave!

NOW ITS ON!

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 21, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

No one actually made fun of BILLY MAYS until you went apoplectic about people allegedly making fun of Billy Mays.

Are you related to the guy? Is someone close to you related to the guy? Do you have some personal connection? If so, you may have a legitimate gripe about people being insensitive, but they won’t know that unless you reveal that you have some emotional tie to the man.

If not, you’re completely overreacting, and making ridiculous claims through the internet about kicking some ass paint you as a knucklehead.

I’m guessing that Billy Mays understood that people laughed at his “HI BILLY MAYS HERE FOR…” intro, and he did it all in good fun and raked in the cash along the way. That’s speculation, but come on, the guy was funny and people are celebrating that.

Now I’m off to write about how sad it is that Sabean couldn’t hire Billy Mays to be his representative before the trade deadline.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 21, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

HI BILLY MAYS HERE FOR THE SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS!!

Wilber Bucardo: Carlos Silva with a younger brother.

by gianator on Jul 21, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want to see that commercial where “LIVE SPORTS COME THROUGH THE WALL ALL THE WAY UP TO YOUR TV”

by DrDC on Jul 21, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heck, he did one of those for ESPN 360. Not a product but was making fun of himself.

by SFGuy on Jul 21, 2009 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

He has a point guys

We really never talk about baseball, and it’s kinda sad.

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.

@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 21, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

What the fuck is baseball?

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Jul 21, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s a series of numbers. Like Bernie Madoff.

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.

by cheno on Jul 21, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

"And that's the way it is."

Oh— wait. (bursts into tears)

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Jul 21, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are a troll. I can’t believe it took this long for me to figure this out.

by FreshStart on Jul 21, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

TWSS

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on Jul 21, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

A FUCKING WELL HUNG TROLL, OK?

See: sexual harrassment without the threat of physical violence.

by FreshStart on Jul 21, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am guessing there is some reason for Franny getting sent down...

It can’t just be, oooh Downs got a double in his last ab, and Franny made an error, lets make a switch.

Am I giving too much credit to GINTS BRAZZ!!!?!

Wilber Bucardo: Carlos Silva with a younger brother.

by gianator on Jul 21, 2009 1:34 PM PDT reply actions  

The reason that Franny got sent down is because his landlord in Fresno has been unable to rent out the apartment.

"He is Tim Lincecum...the Most Interesting Pitcher in the World."

by Kitspool on Jul 21, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Something tells me Frandsen’s one of those guys whose parents bought a house for him to live in while in the minors.

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Jul 21, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s Chris Crocker, obviously:

EVERYBODY LEAVE BILLY MAYS ALONE!!!

Billy Ripken is not a fuck face

by Karlifornia on Jul 21, 2009 1:37 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m surprised they still had him.

by Natto on Jul 21, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought you meant he was dead for a second.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 21, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 21, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

TK gonna mess you up

by Evan on Jul 21, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know

I was like, “Oh shit, TK is going to be so sad :(”

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 21, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s no Billy M….

by jctGamer on Jul 21, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

The ink on the paperwork for his DFA

is barely dry, and you guys are making fun of him

I think you all need to get a life in which you don’t have.

by FreshStart on Jul 21, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can't believe Ransom is still hanging on..

Wilber Bucardo: Carlos Silva with a younger brother.

by gianator on Jul 21, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just want to thank this thread for making 3-5 PM go by much faster than it normally would.

by xanthan on Jul 21, 2009 1:42 PM PDT reply actions  

East coast bias

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 21, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’re welcome.

Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ

by Zetsuboushita on Jul 21, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

same, and your welcome

However I will be afraid to open my computer when I get home.

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 21, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

CHECK YOUR ANSWERING MACHINE DAWG

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 21, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just realized the Giants made brilliant roster moves today for the sake of team chemistry by optioning and sending to the DL their two most disgruntled players. THEY’RE PLAYING CHESS WHILE WE’RE PLAYING CHECKERS!

"He is Tim Lincecum...the Most Interesting Pitcher in the World."

by Kitspool on Jul 21, 2009 1:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Kevin Frandsen and Rich Aurilla= Osama and Saddam

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 21, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shouldn’t Billy Mays = Saddam Hussein? You know, because they’re both dead.

Too far?

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.

@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 21, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

IM GONNA BEAT URZ ASS!

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 21, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Both had beards. Both are teats-up.

Win!

"There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live - too rare to die."

by younghutch on Jul 21, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Too soon. I am still mourning that loss.

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.
.
I mean, how a secular Sunni managed to keep that region relatively orderly for a couple of decades… I don’t know. Sure, he was a horrible man, but he was our horrible man. I’d rather he do the mass nut-crunching than us.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Jul 21, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

this is checkers?

I thought it was Pinata time!

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
-------
PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.

by zenbitz on Jul 21, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

z

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 21, 2009 1:48 PM PDT reply actions  

i agree

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 21, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I cannot believe Frandsen got sent down

Wtf was that about? This is the kind of 20 AB’s for the young guys attitude that scares the crap out of me vis-a-vis Sabean; Rich Aurillia gets all year to suck (until today), Renteria gets all year to suck, but wow. I want no part of this man making meaningful decisions for SF going forward.

Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.

by Aadik on Jul 21, 2009 1:49 PM PDT reply actions  

New baggs post

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/extrabaggs/2009/07/21/roster-moves-giants-force-aurilia-to-dl-downs-returns-as-everyday-second-baseman/

Indicates Frandsen was more of a “stopgap” solution in the first place. Uribe returns to utility role. Downs gets a shot at sticking at 2B because he’s hot in AAA.

Freddy Sanchez, Dan Uggla, where are you?!?!?!?!

by jctGamer on Jul 21, 2009 2:01 PM PDT reply actions  

infected toe, that’s convenient

by Lobsterkite on Jul 21, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

"When a guy comes up, you’d like to give him more time," Bochy said. "He’s throwing out better at-bats. We’d like to see some more at-bats from him."

Unless that guy is Kevin Frandsen.

Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl

by Viliphied on Jul 21, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was going to make this very same comment

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 21, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

"When a guy comes up, you’d like to give him more time," Bochy said. "He’s throwing out better at-bats. We’d like to see some more at-bats from him."

Also, unless that guy is Kevin Frandsen

Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 21, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

UNLESS HES FRANSEN MIRITE?

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.

by EliminateMe on Jul 21, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unless he’s “Frandsen”.

Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.

by Johnny Disaster on Jul 21, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

You might also notice mirite is not a word.

Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list and batting .326 in Scottsdale...which I believe has be renamed Rafaelsdale.

by BrianBokake on Jul 22, 2009 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

It looks like medical science has finally solved the mystery of where the infamous “suck muscle” is located.

Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ

by Zetsuboushita on Jul 21, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t get it. Are the scouts just perfectly sure that Frandsen’s 2007 line was a fluke. I’d love to have a second-baseman who could do that—-and according to UZR he was above-average defensively.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 21, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bochy and Sabean just keep losing credibility every time they open their mouths

Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.

by Aadik on Jul 21, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

In theory

Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.

by Aadik on Jul 21, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

So your saying

they should start writing their thoughts on 3 × 5 index cards and passing them around?

Congratulations and Thank you Jonathan Sanchez.

by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 21, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

How else is he going to get the thoughts out? That’s a lot of volume.

by DrDC on Jul 21, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

You guys aren’t reading closely enough. Downs had three hits the other day! Sounds to me like a guy who should be starting at 2nd base in the majors.

"He is Tim Lincecum...the Most Interesting Pitcher in the World."

by Kitspool on Jul 21, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why did Frandsen never get to start, but Downs does?

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 21, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Um, this is remarkably stupid.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 21, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

What the hell makes Downs a starting option when he’s up but Frandsen just a utility option?

I DON’T GET IT

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 21, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Giants Organizational Logic explained in 3 minutes and 25 seconds.

"He is Tim Lincecum...the Most Interesting Pitcher in the World."

by Kitspool on Jul 21, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stop Looking For Something To Complain About

Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 21, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

let's have a Blame Storming session!

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Jul 21, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rich Aurilia!

Congratulations and Thank you Jonathan Sanchez.

by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 21, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Suck It" Martin!

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Jul 21, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not hard to find

Congratulations and Thank you Jonathan Sanchez.

by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 21, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Frandsvestites, it is time to give up the dream.

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Jul 21, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Godspeed, “Frandsen.” We hardly knew ye.

by Evan on Jul 21, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kevin was a good bowler, and a good man. He was…He was one of us. He was a man who loved the outdoors, and bowling, and as a surfer explored the beaches of southern California from Redondo to Calabassos.

And he was an avid bowler. And a good friend. He died — he died as so many of his generation, before his time. In your wisdom you took him, Lord. As you took so many birght flowering young men, at Khe San and Lan Doc, AND HILL 364! These young men gave their lives.

And Kevin too. Kevin…who…who loved bowling.

Proud parent of Frederick Charles Merkle.

by jhiat00 on Jul 21, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

You got that from the transcript!

In the movie, the beaches were “From La Hoya to Leo Creo, and up to…Pismo.”

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Jul 21, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Alas! You are right about the line.

I just lazily googled it and took it from the first site on the list.

Proud parent of Frederick Charles Merkle.

by jhiat00 on Jul 21, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

La Hoya?

The Georgetown University beach?

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.

by EliminateMe on Jul 21, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

My only regret is that I didn’t also misspell Pismo.

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Jul 21, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

And so, in accordance with what we think your dying wishes…may well have been…we commit your final mortal remains to the bosom of the Pacific Ocean, which you loved so well.

Good night, sweet prince.

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Jul 21, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kevin Frandsen

RIF

Congratulations and Thank you Jonathan Sanchez.

by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 21, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

DAh! Dah! DAh! Another one bites the Ortmeire!

And another one – Downs

And another one- Downs

And another one Bite the Ortmeire.

Downs their gonna get you to!

And another one bites the Ortmeire.

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Jul 21, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lance walks warily down the street

with his Linden way down low…

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.

by EliminateMe on Jul 21, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Same with Frandsen and Burriss

But Franny took care of that problem. Downsie better watch out.

Wilber Bucardo: Carlos Silva with a younger brother.

by gianator on Jul 21, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Little-known fact:

Threats of physical violence will always, always, always get you banned. Keep that in mind, guyz and galz.

by Grant Brisbee on Jul 21, 2009 2:55 PM PDT reply actions  

What about threats of hugs? I’m going to hug the shit out of Natto.

by xanthan on Jul 21, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

So that’s how you pay him to turn watches into TVs?

Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ

by Zetsuboushita on Jul 21, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

A hug that tight seems…violent.

DROP THE BANHAMMER

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Jul 21, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

tell me about the rabbits, Grant

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 21, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d worry about a hug from a computer.

by SFGuy on Jul 21, 2009 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Swung the banhammer did you?

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 21, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Please banhammer don’t hurt ’em

Proud parent of Frederick Charles Merkle.

by jhiat00 on Jul 21, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah?

Let’s see you have that attitude when I beat you in the face next week with my fist.

by Natto on Jul 21, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does that include

violence towards dead horses?

Congratulations and Thank you Jonathan Sanchez.

by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 21, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even if directed at Tommy Lasorda?

Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.

by Aadik on Jul 21, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

another all-star game the NL lost

Proud parent of Frederick Charles Merkle.

by jhiat00 on Jul 21, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is sexual harrassment okay?

Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 21, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only if it includes violence

Proud parent of Frederick Charles Merkle.

by jhiat00 on Jul 21, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

When does sexual harassment not include threats of violence?

Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 21, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

when they include actual violence?

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 21, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

okay?

it’s fantastic

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 21, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

always

what else is the Internet used for?

Congratulations and Thank you Jonathan Sanchez.

by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 21, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s still ok with my secretary and law clerks, right? RIGHT?

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 21, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

only the hot ones

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 21, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let me tell you something, pendejo. You pull any crazy shit with us, you flash a piece out on the lanes, I’ll take it away from you and stick it up your ass and and pull the fucking trigger til it goes “CLICK”

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 21, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

8 year olds dude

Proud parent of Frederick Charles Merkle.

by jhiat00 on Jul 21, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is that from Dora the Explorer?

Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 21, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

It’s from this episode.

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.

@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 21, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Excellent

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.

@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 21, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s one of the few redeeming features of the Jimmy Kimmel Show.

by Natto on Jul 21, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

God I love it so much

Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on Jul 21, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like Kimmel. Not as much as Craig Ferguson, but his show is probably my second favorite amongst late night.

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.

by cheno on Jul 21, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just physical violence right? I’m sooo going to threaten to beat people up in my mind when they piss me off.

Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 21, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ive started pressing 'Z' on facebook

to try to scroll through peoples status updates

Congratulations and Thank you Jonathan Sanchez.

by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 21, 2009 2:55 PM PDT reply actions  

i do that too

and on other forums.

Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl

by Viliphied on Jul 21, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, Kevin Frandsen may not impress the Giants much, but he’s always good for a spare 800+ comments here.

"He is Tim Lincecum...the Most Interesting Pitcher in the World."

by Kitspool on Jul 21, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

All-time leader in ratio of McC posts to major-league at-bats.

by Evan on Jul 21, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Slowly but surely, jcb9 is trying to hand that one to Kim Batiste.

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Jul 21, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now there’s a guy who knows a thing or two about violence.

Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 21, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

And you just helped him.

groug = jcb9 sockpuppet

by Evan on Jul 21, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nothing gets us more riled up than (HAPPY MAYOR?) marginally talented middle infielders who get inexplicably dicked around.*

*Reference the Denker Disaster

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.

@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 21, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bless you, You.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Jul 21, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Although, I guess you could argue that I missed a comma. But, I probably use too many in the first place.

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.

@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 21, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

NEEDS MOAR SEMICOLONS!

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Jul 21, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

THE SEMICOLON IS THE GREATEST MARK OF PUNCTUATION! IT IS THE BARRY BONDS OF PUNCTUATION!

Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Jul 21, 2009 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

You, can never use too many, commas.

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.

by EliminateMe on Jul 21, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, lack of comma was quite correct.

Where would it have gone? You were golden.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Jul 21, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

No-- wait, I'm a doofus. You meant after "HAPPY"?

Yes, that would have been correct. Damn. Doesn’t matter.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Jul 21, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

And my failure turns into victory. Today was a good day.

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.

@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 21, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d like a comma between “Happy” and “Mayor,” please.

by Evan on Jul 21, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was a quizzical exclamation!

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.

@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 21, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't do it

It was like this when I got here.

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.

by EliminateMe on Jul 21, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

/points at the dog

Congratulations and Thank you Jonathan Sanchez.

by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 21, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

/ smears more poo on wall while your back is turned.

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Jul 21, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I tried to stop them but they said that I wasn’t the boss of them.

"There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live - too rare to die."

by younghutch on Jul 21, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know

part of me really wants Frandsen and Denker to be the starting 2B for the 2011 All-Star Game.

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
-------
PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.

by zenbitz on Jul 21, 2009 3:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Which part?

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.

by EliminateMe on Jul 21, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

the part that hates Brian Sabean

with the white hot fury of 10,000 suns.

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
-------
PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.

by zenbitz on Jul 21, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would’ve guessed the spleen.

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.

by EliminateMe on Jul 21, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just in. Is it raining in Atlanta? Poured all day on Long Island…

Also, is there a link to game?

Juan Marichal's bat > JR's head

by titofuentes4 on Jul 21, 2009 4:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Bowker vs. Schierholtz

not putting real money on this, but…..

Bowker = John Vanderwahl
Scheirholtz = Larry Walker

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

by greatgiantfan on Jul 21, 2009 4:47 PM PDT reply actions  

If you decide you’d like to put some real money on that, let me know.

by Evan on Jul 21, 2009 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

i’ll get back to you….in about ten years :)

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

by greatgiantfan on Jul 21, 2009 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Vander Wal seems like a good comp, actually. But Larry Walker’s a near-Hall of Famer.

by Evan on Jul 21, 2009 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, i selected walker in a pinch, but the speed, arm, and signs of power seem similar enough at this stage. It’s really more my observation on Bowker than anything else.

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

by greatgiantfan on Jul 21, 2009 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want in on that action too. Perhaps there is a guy named Scheirholtz somewhere who will be like Larry Walker, but Schierholtz sure as hell isn’t that guy. In fact, that’s one of the most laughable things I’ve read in a while. Are you Nate’s brother?

As for Bowker, I’m thinking somewhere between Jeromy Burnitz and Ryan Klesko – Vander Wal just didn’t have that much power (or get the starts to show it). Maybe Geoff Jenkins? I would, of course, like better – say lefty Jeff Bagwell (tiny arms!) – but even I’m not that optimistic.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 21, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Check out Bowker’s swing—he punches through the strikezone. That stroke will never generate much power. (yeah, I know, I’ve got yer stroke...)

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

by greatgiantfan on Jul 21, 2009 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bat speed through the zone is what generates power and Bowker has a quick swing, so I can totally see him generating pretty decent power numbers.
Not that I’m a Hate Schierholtz guy… to the contrary actually. I think Nate has the potential to be a very nice player a la Randy Winn, but with more pop.

Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.

by Johnny Disaster on Jul 22, 2009 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bowker does generate a lot of power from his swing, it just doesn’t happen to make contact that often.

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 22, 2009 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m your Vanderwahl…

Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.

by Johnny Disaster on Jul 21, 2009 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the laughs, everyone.

by Dan from NM on Jul 22, 2009 7:47 AM PDT reply actions  

fangraphs has buerhle with a 4.6 era, 1.4 whip the rest of the season

ROWAND I LOVE YOU SON!

old signature:
"apparently the adoptive parent of the 2nd best hitter on the team.
/shrug"

by lincypoo i wuv u on Jul 23, 2009 1:24 PM PDT reply actions  

i was mistakingly linked here from the gamethread to get rid of my lingering or something, nyah

ROWAND I LOVE YOU SON!

old signature:
"apparently the adoptive parent of the 2nd best hitter on the team.
/shrug"

by lincypoo i wuv u on Jul 23, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

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