July 2nd: official start of the signing period for 20 year old 17 year olds
See, this is why I didn't want Mateo anyway! HA!
Actually, I hope the Giants make a run at some of the second tier players.
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btw… it looks like Wagner is officially with the Cardinals.
http://stlcardinals.scout.com/2/876616.html
Bastards. Tough loss last night, and now they steal the prospect I wanted.
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
Baggz sez
Giants are going after lesser known prospects. Also, they didn’t want to invest in to Mateo because his left handedness limits him to First base and LF if he can’t play CF.
i dunno
I don’t understand why left handedness limits guys from playing other infield spots
because it does! don’t question the groupthink!
Prospective parent of new pick, Zack Wheeler. Projectable Righty stolen from the braves. Of course, I stalk my son's myspace: http://www.myspace.com/zackwheelerbaseball
"Obviously I’m not doing things like going toe-to-toe with a ninja. Find me a ninja, for one."--Brian Wilson
It can be an issue with middle infielders, as the pivot can be difficult for lefties (and makes double play partners far less interchangeable). But I don’t think its a fatal issue, as regards the ability of lefties to play RF, 2nd or SS.
To my mind, the Lefty part about RF is BS. Wagner doesn’t have the arm to play RF, though.
Prospective parent of new pick, Zack Wheeler. Projectable Righty stolen from the braves. Of course, I stalk my son's myspace: http://www.myspace.com/zackwheelerbaseball
"Obviously I’m not doing things like going toe-to-toe with a ninja. Find me a ninja, for one."--Brian Wilson
“Wagner doesn’t have the arm to play RF, though.”
I suspect that’s what the whole development gobbledigook talk really boiled down to, and probably got messed up in translation to media types et al.
They didn’t think he had the arm to play anything but 1B or LF, and are you really gonna give a kid like that $3M (or in this case, $3.5M, per http://twitter.com/jorgearangure/status/2348687441). Villalona got $2.1M back when bonuses were a little more reasonable, but they also thought he’d be a potential 3B. Not anymore.
Hard to tell with 16 year olds in any case, and I think Baggs’ point on the signing bonuses getting out of control for the top prospects is a valid one. I’d bet they’d still have paid up for someone they had no reservations whatsoever about.
Oh, and the one other thing that I have said for a while (although not on these boards) – this is why treating the Alou situation with kid gloves at the end really did help the team longer term. To an extent on the scouting end, sure (we’ll see on Mateo if he turns out well) but more that as the first Dominican to play regularly in the majors even now he carries an awful lot of weight when he walks into someone’s living room.
He played a role in both the Anvil and Rodriguez deals.
Prospective parent of new pick, Zack Wheeler. Projectable Righty stolen from the braves. Of course, I stalk my son's myspace: http://www.myspace.com/zackwheelerbaseball
"Obviously I’m not doing things like going toe-to-toe with a ninja. Find me a ninja, for one."--Brian Wilson
LH Throwing Third Baseman
From Google Groups
If you include all of baseball history, Hick Carpenter, who played from 1059 of his 1118 career games at 3B despite the handicap of being left handed. It doesn’t seem to have hurt him too badly, either; his .853 FP was actually a hair better than the league norm of .849 (!) and his RF of 3.25 was only a bit lower than the league average of 3.30. Carpenter is the only “real” left handed 3B in MLB history. There have been 50 other lefties to play at least one game at 3B, but their career total is only 597 games, so Carpenter played almost twice as many games as a TL 3B as the rest of the lefties in MLB history combined. Of the 51 left handed throwers to play 3B in MLB history, just 9 debuted after the AL was founded: Hal Chase (1 G at 3B), Milo Netzel (6 G), Duffy Lewis (1), George Sisler (2), Charlie Grimm (1), Mike Squires (14), Terry
Francona (1), Don Mattingly (3), and Mario Valdez (1). That’s just 29 games,
LH Throwing Shortstops
From Wiki Answers:
There are far more and more recent examples of left-handed throwing 3B and 2B than there are SS. Since 1970 Don Mattingly, Mike Squires, even pitcher Sam McDowell – all lefty throwers played a game or two at 3B or 2B but never at SS. The last lefty throwing SS I could find is George Van Haltren: http://www.baseball-reference.com/v/vanhage01.shtml
He played 79 games at SS pre-1900 – all in the National League. I found no American League left handed throwing shortstops.
LH Throwing Second Baseman
I can find no LH Throwing Second Baseman that played more than 3 games except the following:
Wee Willie Keeler, a Hall of Famer, played second base, third and shortstop 71 times over his 19-year career from 1892 through 1910.
Hal Chase, normally a first baseman, played 36 games at second base between 1905 and 1916.
/posts “sarchasm” pic as backup
My adopted son Matt Downs . Ranked as the 24th best prospect in the Giants farm system by Baseball America !!
Giants may be in on Colombian OF Leonardo Fuentes
Prospective parent of new pick, Zack Wheeler. Projectable Righty stolen from the braves. Of course, I stalk my son's myspace: http://www.myspace.com/zackwheelerbaseball
"Obviously I’m not doing things like going toe-to-toe with a ninja. Find me a ninja, for one."--Brian Wilson
We just need Donatello & Michaelangelo now and it’s PIZZA TIME
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