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minor lines, 7/19/09

Highlights from the Giants' farm: (a,b,c) C.J. Ziegler, Roger Kieschnick, and Conor Gillaspie combined for a dozen hits, including Kiesnchnick's 20th HR; (d) Daryl Maday had 6.0 scoreless IP before surrendering a couple runs in the 7th inning; (e) Andy D'Alessio has three doubles; and (f.g) Wilbur Bucardo and Cameron Lamb both had good starts in short-season ball.

Star-divide

AAA: Fresno lost to Colorado Springs 4-3

Fresno: 3B Ryan Rohlinger: 1 for 3, 2B, BB
Fresno: LF Ben Copeland: 2 for 4, 2 SO
Colorado Springs: 2B Eric Young Jr.: 3 for 4, SB, CS, E

Fresno: RHP Joe Martinez: 4.0 IP, 7 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 0 K
Fresno: RHP Shingo Takatsu: 1.2 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 2 ER
Fresno: LHP Alex Hinshaw: 1.0 IP, 1 H, 1 K
Colorado Springs: RHP Scott Munter: 1.0 IP, 1 K

Copeland had two of the Grizzlies' five hits, raising his AVG to .293.    Rohlinger's 29th double was the Grizzlies' only XBH.  The Rockies' Young led all hitters in today's game with three hits.  His AVG remains just shy of .300, and he now has a 50/10 SB/CS line this year.  BA ranked him as the Rockies' #18 prospect to begin the year, and he has improved his stock with his performance so far this season.

Martinez made his third rehab start for Fresno.  Today he allowed 7 H after having allowed just 7 H in the previous two starts combined (in 11.0 IP).  The 40-year-old Takatsu made his season debut, allowing a couple runs.  Hinshaw threw eight of nine pitches for strikes while facing the minimum three batters in the 8th inning.  Munter threw a perfect 7th inning against his former team.

AA: Connecticut lost to New Hampshire 4-2

Connecticut: 3B Sharon Schoop: 1 for 2, 2B, BB
New Hampshire: 2B Brad Emaus: 3 for 4, 2B

Connecticut: RHP Daryl Maday: 6.0+ IP, 7 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 3 K--1 HR
Connecticut: LHP Joe Paterson: 2.0 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB

Schoop's 13th double was one of just five hits for the Defenders.  His OPS remains below .650.  Emaus, whom BA ranked as the Blue Jays' #10 prospect at the start of the year, once again had a big game against the Defenders.  After a big slump in June, he is hitting just .238/.327/.373 in 351 AB this year.

Maday had six scoreless innings but then allowed all three batters he faced in the 7th inning to reach base, scoring two runs.  His ERA remains slightly below 4.00.  Paterson took the loss when he allowed two more runs in the 8th inning, but his ERA remains well below 2.00.

A+: San Jose defeated Bakersfield 14-5
(leading 9-0 after four innings)

San Jose: LF Thomas Neal: 2 for 6, 2 2B, SO
San Jose: RF Roger Kieschnick: 4 for 5, HR
San Jose: 1B C.J. Ziegler: 5 for 5, 2B
San Jose: 3B Conor Gillaspie: 3 for 5, 2B, SO, E
Bakersfield: C Elio Sarmiento: 1 for 4, HR, SO

San Jose: RHP Oliver Odle: 5.2 IP, 9 H, 5 R, 5 ER, 0 BB, 2 K--2 HR
San Jose: RHP Mike Musgrave: 1.0 IP, 2 K

With five hits, Ziegler paced the Giants' 22-hit attack.  The performance raised his Cal League AVG to .342.  Not far behind was Kieschnick with four hits and Gillaspie with three hits.  Kieschnick led off the 2nd inning with his organization-leading 19th HR.  With two more doubles, Neal has an organization-leading 30 doubles.  Gillaspie's three hits, including his 19th double, raised his AVG to .285, but he also committed his 21st error.  Playing against his former organization, Sarmiento had his 1st HR of the year (in 40 games).

Odle had four scoreless innings but then allowed 5 ER over his last two innings, raising his ERA above 5.50.  Musgrave had 2 K in a perfect 9th inning.  This was his fourth game with San Jose after beginning the season with 23 appearances for Connecticut.

A-: Augusta defeated Greensboro 3-2

Augusta: DH Andy D'Alessio: 3 for 4, 3 2B
Augusta: C Johnny Monell: 2 for 4
Greensboro: C Kyle Skipworth: 0 for 4, 3 SO

Augusta: LHP Aaron King: 5.2 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 5 BB, 7 K
Augusta: RHP Mitch Lively: 2.1 IP, 2 K
Augusta: RHP Chris Wilson: 1.0 IP, 1 K

D'Alessio had his 14th, 15th, and 16th doubles since being demoted to the Sally League early in the season.  He is hitting .322/.379/.552 in 87 AB since the SAL all-star break.  Monell also had a multi-hit line, nudging his AVG above .275.  Skipworth, whom the Marlins selected 6th overall a year ago, had the oh-fer with the hat trick as his struggles continue.  Although noted more for his bat than his defense when he was drafted, he is hitting just .202/.254/.314 through 223 AB, in which time has more than 80 SO.

Despite the season-high 5 BB, King matched his second longest start of the season.  He also set a new season high with 7 K.  The 20-year-old in his first pro season does not have impressive peripheral stats, but he has consistently allowed right around 2 ER in each start, keeping his ERA below 4.00.  Lively and Wilson combined for 3.1 perfect IP in relief.

ssA: Salem-Keizer defeated Boise 3-2

Salem-Keizer: 3B Chris Dominguez: 1 for 2, HR, 2 BB, SO, 2 SB
Salem-Keizer: DH Andrew Biery: 2 for 4, 2B

Salem-Keizer: RHP Wilbur Bucardo: 6.0 IP, 6 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 2 K

Dominguez (3rd rounder) had his 4th HR in eight NWL games.  Biery (22nd rounder) had the Volcanoes' only multi-hit line, as they were limited to six hits.

The older Bucardo had his sinker working tonight, as he posted a 15/1 GO/FO line.  He allowed just 1 ER in 6.0 IP to get his ERA back down to 2.65 after his ERA took a beating in his final inning a few days ago.

R: Giants defeated Mariners 9-2

Scottsdale: 3B Evan McArthur: 2 for 4, 2B, SO
Scottsdale: RF Sundrendy Windster: 2 for 4, 2B, BB, SO, E

Scottsdale: RHP Cameron Lamb: 4.0 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 7 K
Scottsdale: RHP Jason Stoffel: 1.0 IP
Scottsdale: RHP Rafael Cova: 1.0 IP, 2 K
Peoria: RHP Chad Cordero: 1.0 IP, 3 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 0 K

Among four rookie Giants with two hits each, McArthur and Windster both doubled.

Lamb had another very effective start.  He has had 6+ K in four of his six starts.  For the season, he has a 1.25 K/IP and a WHIP barely over 1.00.  Stoffel, the Giants' 4th rounder this year, made his pro debut with a perfect 7th inning.  Cova, who was announced as part of San Jose's opening day roster but has spent the entire season on the DL, made his season debut.  Cordero pitched in his just his second game of the season, returing just three of the seven batters he faced in the 1st inning.

DSL: The Gigantes had their regular Sunday off-day

The AL all-stars defeated the NL all-stars 7-0 (7 innings)

Dominican: 1B Rey Duran: 0 for 1
Dominican: PH-2B Carlos Willoughby: 0 for 2
Dominican: DH Jose De La Cruz: 0 for 1

The three Gigantes in the all-star game--Duran (17.11 y.o.), Willoughby (20.8 y.o.), and De La Cruz (18.3 y.o.)--had a combined oh-fer as the NL all-stars managed just two hits on the day.

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Congratulations and Thank you Jonathan Sanchez.

by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 19, 2009 11:33 PM PDT reply actions  

I just watched The New Centurions a few weeks ago!

by xanthan on Jul 20, 2009 7:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s crazy how young he is in that movie.

/self reply

by xanthan on Jul 20, 2009 7:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Someday I’ll get around to seeing this one:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066485/

The trailer is hysterical.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 20, 2009 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Except in the HR department. :(

by Hobbes2d on Jul 20, 2009 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nobody really expected him to hit for power, did they? Though obviously he needs to post a better SLG if he wants to succeed.

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by jcb9 on Jul 20, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

No one expected him to hit DINGERZ but I think we expected a SLG over .400 at least.

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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 20, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

I’ve been really bad about following the minor lines lately (and almost everything, actually – I’ve been busy), so I’m not sure, but it seems like his numbers have crept up a bit lately. Noonan’s, too. Is this correct, or am I misremembering?

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by jcb9 on Jul 20, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Gillaspie is hitting like (approx) .285/.375/.375 right now. If the SLG was just like 50 points higher I’d feel a lot better about him. :\

Noonan’s still down at .243/.322/.382. The good news is that his Isos aren’t half bad, so if he could get his BA up to .280 or so, his overall line would actually look quite nice! (Unfortunately, his BABIP is currently .317).

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by jponry on Jul 20, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

At one point, Noonan’s OBP was below .300.

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by jcb9 on Jul 20, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he’s started showing some of that vaunted best plate discipline in the system (finally).

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by jponry on Jul 20, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

well his comp was Bill Mueller

He’s hitting exactly like Mueller, with a similar K/BB and power too. Not really the type of production you want form your third basemen but I’d be fine with it from second.

by superk1ng on Jul 20, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mueller was much better than that when he was in hi-A though.

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by jponry on Jul 20, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mueller was a year and a few months older than Gillaspie for his High-A season, but his line was better, yes

Mueller: .302 / .435 / .425, 5 HR, 20 2B, 9 3B, 47 K, 103 BB in 544 PA
Gillaspie: .285 / .375 / .377, 2 HR, 19 2B, 2 3B, 46 K, 44 BB in 364 PA

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on Jul 20, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

so I just realized..

Kieschnick actually has a lot of home runs.

by i wish we were good on Jul 20, 2009 12:17 AM PDT reply actions  

Despite the 5 walks that accompanied them

It’s good to see him have a nice high-K game.

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Jul 20, 2009 2:09 AM PDT reply actions  

Good to see Stoffel make a successful debut. He’s going to shoot up the system.

Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!

by rxmeister on Jul 20, 2009 3:42 AM PDT reply actions  

I’m getting a little impatient waiting for the Giants to promote Neal…

I only have a signature because I recognize everyone else by their sigs, not their usernames..

by lmaozedong on Jul 20, 2009 4:26 AM PDT reply actions  

Steve, is your listed age for Duran just a typo? MiLB lists his DOB as 7/31/89, so he’d be just about to turn 20, rather than 18, unless you’re seeing an different date for him somewhere.

My Bucardo is better than yours.

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by Roger on Jul 20, 2009 6:37 AM PDT reply actions  

Probably not the first mistake I’ve made in that regard, but the first time I recall someone questioning what I wrote about a DSL Gigante’s age this year.

by steve S on Jul 20, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ho-hum. Another amazing game by Dominguez.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 20, 2009 7:33 AM PDT reply actions  

Is Roger Kieschnick legit?

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 20, 2009 7:37 AM PDT reply actions  

He still strikes out waaaaaaay too much.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 20, 2009 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

this

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jul 20, 2009 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Chris Davis kind of too much? or just Ryan Howard kind of too much?

by jctGamer on Jul 20, 2009 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

K% of 23.4 which isn’t great, but it’s not the worst K% in the Cal League. Rockies prospect Brian Rike leads the league with a K% of 36.9. In 260 AB’s, he’s struck out 96 times.

FYI: The average K% in the Cal League for everyone is 22.8

by xanthan on Jul 20, 2009 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks xanthan. I didn’t think Kieschnick’s Ks were as dire as has been discussed here. I don’t have a problem with that as much as his walks. I want to see him walk more. Since he changed his swing and stance, I assume he’ll have some kinks to work out and that could be adding to the higher K rate.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 20, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s still tracking Schierholtz’s Cal League numbers closely. Kiesch has more homers, Nate had more singles & doubles, but they’re pretty much the same in value, and the K/W numbers are virtually identical.

by Evan on Jul 20, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

One difference is that that wasn’t Nate’s first experience with the Cal League, not his first full season. Nate had played half the previous season in the Cal League. Major differences the first time around were much less HR power (which was odd, as he’d been destroying the Sally in the first two months) and much better K rate.

My Bucardo is better than yours.

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by Roger on Jul 20, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kieschnick

Also, he’s fairly polished for the Cal League, coming from college, and the Cal League is a hitter’s league of course. So temper all enthusiasm immediately.

by I'm_a_Man on Jul 20, 2009 8:45 AM PDT reply actions  

…1/2 of his games are in a pitchers park…

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 20, 2009 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

and he’s pretty much exactly as polished as he should be for the Cal League.

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by Viliphied on Jul 20, 2009 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah. I like what I see from him and if he can keep hitting well, plus walk some more, I’ll like him a lot.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 20, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

One thing to realize about Kieschnick is that, when drafted, he was seen as relatively unpolished as college hitters go. That’s why he fell to us in the third round – he was a potential five-tool player, but he was a “project” and “toolsy.”

Despite being imperfect, I’m pretty encouraged by what he’s been doing this year.

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Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on Jul 20, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

+1

Also, Roger has made great strides this year when compared to his numbers/play from the Hawaiian League last Fall. I know it was a SSS, but it’s encouraging to see his ablility to progress and make changes in such a short period of time.

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Jul 20, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

What is SSS?

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 20, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

small sample size

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by Fla-Giant on Jul 21, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

ty

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 21, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is his first pro season, and he has 19 homers in an advanced league. I’d say that’s a reason to be enthused…

by crazedcrustacean on Jul 20, 2009 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does anyone know what type of errors Gillaspie makes the most? Throwing or fielding?

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by marcello on Jul 20, 2009 9:13 AM PDT reply actions  

Throwing

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 20, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know it’s been said, but maybe he should be moved to 2B sooner rather than later. Anybody know how good/bad he would be at 2B?

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@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 20, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Gillaspie and Noonan will have to fight it out in the Thunderdome.

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 20, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Noonan’s been better lately, but his offensive numbers are still crumby enough that I wonder if he might repeat San Jose next year, with Gillaspie playing third in Connecticut/Richmond.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on Jul 20, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

If Noonan slumps again, holding him back would probably be wise; but if he can keep improving a bit over the rest of the season, he’s probably ready for AA.

by Evan on Jul 20, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t mind making him start next season in San Jose (he’s still younger than 20, right?) and then moving him up to AA if he shows he can continue the improvements he’s made in the second half.

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by jponry on Jul 20, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

According to b-r, he turned 20 in May.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on Jul 20, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, I guess he’s 20 now. But still, I’ve always thought of it being like

20 lo-A
21 hi-A
22 AA
23 AAA

being the fair ages for each level, so he’s still doing okay.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 20, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Presumably they’ll make the decision based on whether they think he’ll respond well to continued challenge or needs a little time to consolidate what he’s learned thus far.

by Evan on Jul 20, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m with you. He (and Villalona, throw him into the discussion as well) are young enough so that holding them back won’t be detrimental.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 20, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fielding

Actually most of them have been fielding (14 fielding, 7 throwing), though I don’t know that it’s an unusually high split one way or the other.

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by Roger on Jul 20, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Another homerun for Chris :) Roger is a line drive hitting machine with some pop – we could do a lot worse. Nice start by the older Bucardo brother :) What is up with the Takatsu signing – replacing one old Japanese pitcher for another?

by APGiantsFan on Jul 20, 2009 10:15 AM PDT reply actions  

Takatsu was signed way before Yabu was released.

by Natto on Jul 20, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Either way, probably just filler for the pitching staff.

by Natto on Jul 20, 2009 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dominguez’s K-rate is over 25% though. Actually, I guess that’s more or less what we expected. KEEP IT UP DOMDINGERZUEZ!

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 20, 2009 10:43 AM PDT reply actions  

the extra D is for dingerz

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 20, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

As long as he keeps hitting the ball over the wall. Also, 5 for 5 on SBs! For a guy who’s listed at 6-5, 235, that’s kinda crazy.

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by marcello on Jul 20, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Future 40/40

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 20, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

the next Alfonso Soriano?

Or the next Jose Canseco?

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by RDreamer on Jul 20, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just noticed that Dominguez is actually older than Kieschnick and Crawford and last year’s college draftees. I guess he got a late start? They’re going to need to move him aggressively.

Also, fun fact, Kieschnick and Crawford were born on the same day. Did everyone know this but me?

by Evan on Jul 20, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he will be 23 at the start of next season, so hopefully they’ll start him at high-A and then be willing to move him aggressively.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 20, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was not aware of that. Maybe they’re THE SAME PERSON!!!

by Natto on Jul 20, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've never actually seen a picture of them together....

hmm

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by RDreamer on Jul 20, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dominguez was drafted as a senior – I think all last year’s major college draftees were juniors.

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by jcb9 on Jul 20, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

He took a redshirt year with a broken arm.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 20, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Beat that Scott Rowand!

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 20, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m going to see the San Jose Giants tomorrow night with my father, who’s visiting from Florida. Should be fun.

Of course, I’ve also missed a lot of minor lines lately, so I’m pretty behind on the state of the Little Giants. Nice to see Kieschnick and Neal still seem to be hitting!

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on Jul 20, 2009 11:31 AM PDT reply actions  

plus you’ll get to see Bocock!

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by Speedforthewin on Jul 20, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

TWSS

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by RDreamer on Jul 20, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

YES!!!!!!!

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.

by jcb9 on Jul 20, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

The last game I saw Bocock in, he committed 2 errors.

/obligatory TWSS

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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 20, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tell your dad to Neal before Zod

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 20, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I fell off the ziegler bandwagon the year after he was drafted, but I like what he’s doing with SJ. I’ll give the guy props for hitting well.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 20, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember him falling off the prospect radar as well, but I was a bit shocked to see Steve note the .342 BA above. So I look up Ziegler on minorleaguesplits.com and that gave me a laugh.

Also, what happened to Adam Witter? He was something of a bright spot in the dark days for Connecticut, and while I remember his glove not being good enough for C and his bat not being good enough for a corner IF spot, he just completely forgot how to hit this year. Was he hurt?

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 20, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

The OBP thing is pretty horrifying, but I made a note of Ziegler getting nine hits in 19 at-bats last week for my Cal League notebook. I can sing the praises of Thomas Neal every week but him being awesome is old news. I try to spotlight the guys who are doing well outside of the usual suspects.

I don’t know about Witter, but it appears he’s fallen off big time. I’ll need to do some digging to find out what happened.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 20, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

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by jponry on Jul 20, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes! It’s good to see that he brought the hot bat that he picked up in Salem-Keizer back up with him to SJ. Let’s hope he’s only headed up the ladder from now on.

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by Fla-Giant on Jul 20, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dominguez!

Chris was a man among boys last night. He scored all 3 runs for S-K and drove in the 1st run with his HR. Just as impressive as the HR was the way he scored the last 2 runs. Both times he walked, stole 2nd base and scored on a single. He also had some nice plays on D at 3B. He really displayed all his tools last night. Is he going to be our Dave Winfield – big and tall with power, speed and a great arm?

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by Fla-Giant on Jul 20, 2009 4:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Noting what was said above about Dominguez's age...

…I must point out that when Winfield was the same age as Dominguez, he was in his first full season with the Padres and hitting 20 HRs against major league pitching.

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by EliminateMe on Jul 20, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Obviously

I wasn’t saying that Domiguez will have a career like Winfield – you’re talking about a HOFer. I was just pointing out that they have similar builds and similar tool-sets, and the Giants have never really had a tall guy that had all those tools. Dave Kingman probably would come closest. The other guy that Dominguez reminds me of is Derrek Lee of the Cubs.

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by Fla-Giant on Jul 20, 2009 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I say push Dominguez aggressively. Send him to SJ now and he if he can handle it. Next year he can go to AA, and it won’t be the hitter’s crucible that is Dodd.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 20, 2009 8:09 PM PDT reply actions  

I bet they send him to SJ after the NWL ends. SJ has a first round bye in the playoffs and will be playing through at least mid-September. Kinda like how they did Posey last year.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 20, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

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