Sanchez extension talks fall through

"Both Freddy Sanchez and Jack Wilson have rejected the Pirates' contract offers, and as of Sunday, neither has come back to present a counter-offer. The absence of any sort of counter-offer, general manager Neal Huntington said, does not leave the organization optimistic that a deal will be reached with either player in the coming days."

Sanchez's offer was a ridiculous lo-ball. Even in this economy, 2 years/10M is a joke for one of the top 2B's in the league, particularly one poised to reach an $8M vesting option. There were suggestions that these talks were just a PR move, but that offer is farcical. Being a Pirates fan must be worse than being a Warriors fan.

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wowsah

how good is the giants' starting rotation? our rotation is so good, our 5th starters throw no-hitters. uh.

by Golden Gate Review on Jul 19, 2009 1:01 PM PDT reply actions

PLOLrates.

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.

by cheno on Jul 19, 2009 1:22 PM PDT reply actions

I mentioned this in the gameday thread. The offers to these two players was an insult. It was a ploy by management to tell their fans that they attempted to keep their popular DP combo together but the player’s outrageous demands forced them to deal them.

Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!

by rxmeister on Jul 19, 2009 1:30 PM PDT reply actions

The Sanchez offer was a joke

The Wilson offer seems about right, in light of the collapse of the FA market.

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by Bhaakon on Jul 19, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions

but if wilson just stays healthy he’ll make more next year than he would in the 2 year offer they made

Thing A

by sam23 on Jul 19, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions

No, he won't.

From the article:

Wilson’s offer was also for two years and worth $8 million. It would take the place of his $8.4 million club option for next season, an option that the Pirates have already confirmed will not be picked up.</blockquote

Sanchez’s option is vesting, Wilson’s is not.

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by Bhaakon on Jul 19, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions

The Pirates have already made it clear they’re not picking up that option.

Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!

by rxmeister on Jul 20, 2009 3:49 AM PDT up reply actions

Jeez, you throw one no-hitter and it just goes to your head.

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Jul 19, 2009 1:48 PM PDT reply actions

um

Freddy Sanchez

(did I just fall in the chasm?)

Congratulations and Thank you Jonathan Sanchez.

by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 19, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions

(Yes)

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Jul 19, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions

Hows the weather down there?

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 19, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions

Need a ladder?

by Merope on Jul 19, 2009 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions

Hot

and yes please

Congratulations and Thank you Jonathan Sanchez.

by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 19, 2009 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions

TWSS

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@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

by marcello on Jul 19, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions

Man, that organization stinks.

by satyricrash on Jul 19, 2009 1:56 PM PDT reply actions

They pretty much offered them the extension so they could make it seem like they were going to try to keep them.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 19, 2009 2:04 PM PDT reply actions

Being a Warriors fan is fun btw.

Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!

by Azmanz on Jul 19, 2009 2:10 PM PDT reply actions

You can't trick me.

I am a Warriors fan.

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by Bhaakon on Jul 19, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions

I must be doin it rong.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jul 19, 2009 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions

It was fun for two years in the last fifteen

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by thehavenot on Jul 19, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions

One

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 19, 2009 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions

I had fun during the 48 win season, too.

by thehavenot on Jul 20, 2009 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions

Until the heart crushing end

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Jul 20, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions

I am a Celtics Fan

I’ve had one good year in the last 20.

by jctGamer on Jul 19, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions

Got tired of resting on your laurels?

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by Bhaakon on Jul 19, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions

I’m a Knick fan. I’ve had nothing since 1973.

Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!

by rxmeister on Jul 20, 2009 3:50 AM PDT up reply actions

Please

Since 1978, the Warriors have finished above .500 just EIGHT times. You guys made the playoffs every year from 87-01, you’ve got nothing to complain about.

by superk1ng on Jul 20, 2009 4:45 AM PDT up reply actions

The Terry Cummings era?

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on Jul 20, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions

re: Warriors fan

at least we’re not the Clippers. The Pirates could be the Clippers of MLB

Do you Wazzel?

by NeifiChicken on Jul 19, 2009 2:17 PM PDT reply actions

matiLOLnals are the Clippers of MLB

by jctGamer on Jul 19, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions

I chose the Warriors comp for a reason.

The Warriors suck now, but they’ve been good in the past, and they’ve got their ring.

The Clippers are more like the Brewers (3 playoff appearances, 12 winning seasons in 40 years of operation).

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by Bhaakon on Jul 19, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions

The Warriors have legit young talent right now though.. Same can’t be said about the Pirates.

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by Azmanz on Jul 19, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions

Perhaps.

They may be closer to a playoff spot, I don’t think that they’re really much closer to serious contention for a title than the Pirates are. I realize that’s statement seems odd, but it’s a product of 1) the strict luxury tax in the NBA, and 2) a sport in which it’s very difficult to win a ring without a top 5 talent, and 3) a game in which the playoffs are easier to reach and far less of a craps shoot.

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by Bhaakon on Jul 19, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions

Warriors may not be that far away, though.
Randolph is a supremely interesting talent, who may very well be top 10 within 3 years.

Without injuries, they may well be a playoff caliber team (even if they don’t get in, as stacked as the west is). But there is a very real chance of them being a dangerous play off team in 2 years, and a contender the year after. That can’t be said for the Pirates.

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by haverecords on Jul 20, 2009 2:22 AM PDT up reply actions

Good, sure. Very good, perhaps, But top 10 overall? I’ll believe it when I see it.

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by Bhaakon on Jul 20, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions

Giants should sneak over to the Buc’ clubhouse leave Renteria and sneak off with Sanchez. When they get to Atlanta they can call up Pirates management and say “oopsy our bad!”

by Merope on Jul 19, 2009 2:21 PM PDT reply actions

Note to Pirates management, the Pittsburgh fans know what a good organization looks like. IE Steelers and Penguins. And the Pirates before 1994.

I think it’s really sad that they had to insult their fans AND their 2 current players like this. If you don’t want them, then just fucking trade them. Don’t insult tons of people by trying to mask it as some outrageous player contract demands as forcing your hands.

by Hobbes2d on Jul 19, 2009 3:44 PM PDT reply actions

yeah serial

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by boonitez on Jul 19, 2009 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions

Freddy Sanchez is rightfully ours. Hand him over, Pittsburgh.

I’d like a side order of Ian Snell as well.

by Evan on Jul 19, 2009 5:05 PM PDT reply actions

The Pirates need to just give Sanchez to us and be done with it.

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by Natto on Jul 19, 2009 7:13 PM PDT reply actions

this

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 19, 2009 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions

If I was Jack Wilson, however, I would take the money and run

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by lmaozedong on Jul 19, 2009 7:46 PM PDT reply actions

Why?

he could probably get twice that from Sabean

Congratulations and Thank you Jonathan Sanchez.

by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 19, 2009 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions

-1

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by The Thrill on Jul 19, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions

And Renteria would still be paid more (including signing bonus) D:

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Jul 20, 2009 2:04 AM PDT up reply actions

I’m kind of into the idea of trading for Freddy Sanchez and trying to get the Pirates to throw Ian Snell into the deal as well.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 20, 2009 11:10 AM PDT reply actions

I don’t think thats out of the question considering he flat out told them he would rather stay in AAA than play for them again. Interesting strategy on his part

http://pittsburgh.pirates.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090719&content_id=5940234&vkey=news_pit&fext=.jsp&c_id=pit

by m34josh on Jul 20, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions