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Giants' Draft Review

Hey guys, I've posted a review of the Giants' draft over at MLB Bonus Baby. There's comments on all 50 picks. I thought you might be interested in the read.

Here's an excerpt for you, this being the size of each year in my draft previews before the draft:

1. Zack Wheeler, RHP, East Paulding HS (GA), #6 overall, 6’3’’/180: This wasn’t unexpected at all, as Wheeler had been seen by Giants’ GM Brian Sabean weeks before the draft. Wheeler had the most helium of any of the top prep pitchers over the course of the season, as he started running his fastball up and showed excellent potential. He hasn’t signed yet, but I expect him to reach a deal sometime on the deadline day. DOB: 5/30/90. Commitment: Kennesaw State.

2. Tommy Joseph, C, Horizon HS (AZ), #55 overall, 6’1’’/215: I had some people criticize my next-to-last mock draft, because I left Joseph out of the three round mock altogether. I even had a few people say it was idiotic for Joseph to be left out of the first round, as he was a lock. However, I felt a subtle shift in his stock late in the season, as teams were always sure of his bat, but became more apprehensive about his glove. I see first base in his future, as his mechanics behind the plate just aren’t those of a catcher in today’s game. He could easily improve greatly and prove me wrong, but I just don’t see the skills. He does have the tools, however, as his arm is quite strong. He hasn’t signed, but I expect him to agree shortly before Wheeler. DOB: 7/16/91. Commitment: Arizona.

3. Chris Dominguez, 3B, Louisville, #86 overall, 6’5’’/235: I love this pick for the Giants, as Dominguez is one of those rare college third basemen that could turn out to be a starter at that position in the big leagues. He has enormous tools, and you have to start with the raw power. He’s got enough strength to hit 30 homers a year if he improves his approach, though that’s tough, as he struggles with pitch recognition. His arm is also a plus, and he can handle third with it in the long-run, though, as with most third base prospects, he needs reps in order to become consistent. He’s still raw, despite having been a 5th round pick last year by the Rockies as a draft-eligible sophomore, but he’s got enormous potential. This wrapped up a great first day for the Giants. Dominguez signed quickly, and after a quick .306/.375/.528 run through the AZL in 36 ABs, he’s 8-for-21 (.381) with Salem-Keizer in the Northwest League. DOB: 11/22/86. Signing bonus: $411,300.

4. Jason Stoffel, RHP, Arizona, #117 overall, 6’2’’/220: Stoffel was one of those rare cases in which I firmly believe he was the subject of pitching abuse, though he was a reliever in college. The Wildcats used him early and often, and he threw over 50 innings over a three month span, equivalent to over 100 innings in relief over a six month Major League season. No manager in the Majors would subject such a high-end arm like Stoffel’s to that kind of use. However, it happened, and as a result, Stoffel’s pure stuff was down, as was his command, and I personally speculated a few times that Stoffel might be having arm troubles. He fell this far as a result of the diminished results, and the Giants might have gotten a steal. He signed already, but has yet to be assigned to a roster. DOB: 9/15/88. Signing bonus: $254,700.

5. Brandon Belt, 1B, Texas, #147 overall, 6’5’’/210: This was a surprising overdraft to me, as I loved what the Giants had done with their first four picks. However, Belt, despite blessed with exceptional size and good natural power, lacks the performance numbers or tools to be drafted this high. Since being drafted in the 11th round in both 2006 and 2007 (Red Sox and Braves), Belt has been a huge disappointment, with relatively weak hitting, making him going this high a big surprise. He’s got good tools at first, and with mechanical adjustments, he might become a more powerful hitter, but it’s just not likely. He hasn’t signed yet. DOB: 4/20/88.

The cutoff point in the Giants' draft in terms of transitioning to unsignable or organizational players is after the Chris Gloor pick in the 17th round.

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Sound solid to me. It’s disappointing that he focused solely on Joseph’s ability to stick at catcher. Doesn’t he know that we will take any bat we can get?

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by rotorueter on Jul 18, 2009 10:59 AM PDT reply actions  

Just realized that YOU wrote it. It’s disappointing that YOU focused solely on Joseph’s glove at catcher. :-)

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by rotorueter on Jul 18, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

But you have to question whether Joseph can play anything other than first. His bat is a whole lot less valuable there.

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by Andy Seiler on Jul 18, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think he focused only on Joseph’s defensive questions. He grades the Giants’ draft highly overall and mentions how much he likes the first six picks in particular.

by Dan from NM on Jul 18, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

why does a prep pitcher as good as wheeler sign up for kennesaw state? hopefully he’s with us and it’s a moot point, but still, i can’t remember the last time i heard kennesaw state as any sort of baseball powerhouse. love that funky delivery though.

by locutus on Jul 18, 2009 11:19 AM PDT reply actions  

Kennesaw State put out a pair of good pitchers this year.

Chad Jenkins and Kyle Heckathorn. That being said, he probably committed there because it’s close to home, and he didn’t have a strong preference. It just means he’s more signable.

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by Andy Seiler on Jul 18, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

KSU has a pretty good baseball program

Emerging and could become a powerhouse in the next few years. Perhaps an Oregon State-like rise.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 19, 2009 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Excellent wrap up. I’ve been reading your blog, and I’m amazed at how thorough you are with each team.

by Dan from NM on Jul 18, 2009 11:33 AM PDT reply actions  

Appreciate the insight. Am glad you wrote a lot about #6 pick Matt Graham. Believe the Giants are the perfect organization for a pitcher like Graham to grow/develop and excel. Hope the Giants sign Graham.

by wilriv21 on Jul 18, 2009 11:49 AM PDT reply actions  

Sweet

Good writeup. When I saw you posting these at minorleagueball, I couldn’t wait for the Giants. Definitely worth the wait. I really hope the Giants let Joseph and Dominguez try to stick at C and 3B, otherwise they drafted 3 1B in the first 5 rounds.

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by marcello on Jul 18, 2009 11:55 AM PDT reply actions  

Kudos for being able to write up a review on all 50 picks. That must’ve taken some serious research

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by Useful_Idiot on Jul 18, 2009 12:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Um, this ends with a summary for the Padres draft….

by quincy0191 on Jul 18, 2009 12:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Great write up and thanks for the link.

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by jponry on Jul 18, 2009 12:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Thank you, Andy… I really appreciate the information you provide.

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by shikantaza on Jul 18, 2009 12:45 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m pretty happy with Brandon Belt as a fifth-round pick. He’s an opposite-field type rather than a power hitter, but .323/.425/.523 is a nice line in the Big 12, particularly in Texas, which is a real pitcher’s park. The glove is good. And there’s rubber-toeing potential if the bat doesn’t develop.

by Evan on Jul 18, 2009 12:55 PM PDT reply actions  

I didn’t know that the Rockies had originally drafted Dominguez. That makes me like this pick even more. Let me taste your tears, Rockies fans.

by ryanmiles on Jul 18, 2009 1:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Nice Job

I expect Wheeler and Joseph to sign, but anything can happen.

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by CB30 on Jul 18, 2009 1:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Gotta figure that our 49th round pick won’t leave the CEA.

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 18, 2009 1:19 PM PDT reply actions  

AAAAGGGHHH BEATEN

I was sure I was going to be the first one in with an Austan Goolsbee joke.

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by antinous on Jul 19, 2009 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

it would seem like such a sure bet . . . .

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 20, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Thank you for sharing this with the McCoven. We appreciate your time and insight and it gives us more information when following our minor leaguers. Would be nice to have all our top six draft choices sign.

by APGiantsFan on Jul 18, 2009 2:16 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

+1

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Jul 19, 2009 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great job Andy!

Excellent job, as usual, Andy. I’ve been waiting for this with bated breath – the first 5 that you did seemed to come out with less delay in-between, but I did notice from your blog that you’ve been on rug rat patrol for most of the week.

 I was happy to see that you had rated the Giants draft as high as I did, as I was beginning to think that my affinity for the Giants was clouding my judgement. I have also been encouraged by the fact that they signed so many of their rounds 3-17 picks so quickly without breaking the bank and having to go over slot.
 
Andy, I have 1 correction and 1 question for you. First the correction.

At least 2 oulets have reported that Alex Burg (the #24 round pick from WSU) already signed way back in the beginning of June. He had arthroscopic knee surgery on June 29, and is already in Scottsdale waiting for it to heal before playing. As an aside, I think that you may be selling Burg a bit short, as it appears to me that he was held back from starting more games at C because of his knee injury. He was the leading hitter on the team with an avg/obp/slg line of .346/.469/.631 – outstanding for a C. I could only find a link to one of the sources with his signing info (I believe the other was the SF Chronicle), but here it is:
http://washingtonstate.scout.com/a.z?s=137&p=9&c=2&cid=877338&nid=4430696&fhn=1

Now the question. In your experience, what is the history of pitchers whose arms have been abused during their college year(s)? Do they often recover back to their past levels of success, and, if so, what ballpark percentages are we talking about, and how long does it usually take? I imagine that with pitchers like that it would behoove the Giants to shut them down the rest of this year as much as possible, and then treat them with kid gloves next year. I’m guessing that’s why Stoffel has yet to be assigned or pitch even though he signed several weeks ago.

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by Fla-Giant on Jul 18, 2009 8:35 PM PDT reply actions  

asking about the history of pitchers whose arms have been abused during their college years is pretty much the equivalent of asking about the history of college pitchers.

by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 19, 2009 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow this is great. Thank you a ton!

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by fwoty oz on Jul 19, 2009 12:18 AM PDT reply actions  

Very impressive writeup. Thanks for this.

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by Karlifornia on Jul 19, 2009 2:22 AM PDT reply actions  

Echoing everybody else

This was a detailed, thorough, well-written summary. I really appreciated it. Thanks a ton!

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by antinous on Jul 19, 2009 5:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Fantastic job, Andy. Thanks again!

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by Lyle on Jul 21, 2009 4:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Great article. I’d been curious about some of the teen picks since I’ve been unable to find much information on them. Thanks!

by HaroldS on Jul 21, 2009 4:37 PM PDT reply actions  

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