Post-Game Thread
by Grant Brisbee on Jul 17, 2009 8:38 PM PDT
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PrintI could use another four days off.
People I'm angry at right now: Edgar Renteria, Rich Aurilia, and Edgar Renteria.
And where's my damn pizza?
Also, I'm annoyed with Edgar Renteria right now. And Rich Aurilia.
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Can we please release Richie
Enough. This is beyond awful. And Renteria joins the Sabean hall-of-fame big money FA signings; sit with Edgardo Alfonzo over there, by Aaron Rowand, with Barry Zito and Matt Morris. Yay team!
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
Box Score shows
Aurilla struck out 3 times (I also vaguely remember a soft Double Play ground ball — but I could have dreamt that last night).
by On Deck #44 on Jul 18, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Please tell me this was his curtain call game. Please
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How does HHHIIEEADD not make that list?
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Bochy
What the hell was he thinking? Was he trying to lose?
Aurilia? Torres? Renteria 5th?
Like, seriously? What is that?
Great way to start of 20 straight games. Lose with your best pitcher, kill your bullpen, and embarrass yourselves.
by DrDC on Jul 17, 2009 8:42 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Spread the Hate
Molina needs more than his share of the blame.
by SammyG on Jul 17, 2009 8:43 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
who cares about the Dodger game when we’ve just played like this. We’re going nowhere fast if they don’t fix this lineup.
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Watch Yourself
It’s always a good time to enjoy those dogs getting a good old fashioned smackdown
ive been stressing about the rockies ever since their 13 game winning streak
back in my day we wanted to be like magic larry now these days all you guys talk about is try to be like mike or becoming the next lebanon james
They just flat out can’t beat the Bums (currently 2-10 vs. the Bums). Tell they do that I don’t think the rest of the NL will take them that seriously. The will be stuck between pretender but not yet contender status.
After last night’s Vets-gasim line up crapped the bed (again) I almost see the Rox passing us as a good thing. Either it would be the end of 7 out of the starting 8 being over 30 free agent signees (who’s current skill levels are basically fungible or just a bit above) starting the or the end of Big Head. Either way I get a team back that I can happily root for again.
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We lost that game because of the starting lineup. He had to go all righthanded against Maholm like he was freaking Randy Johnson in his prime. Yes, Maholm is tougher on lefties than righties, but your lefthanded hitters are better than your righthanded hitters. That has to be your main consideration.
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by rxmeister on Jul 17, 2009 8:43 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
yeah, but Bochy's too stupid to figure that out
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
Damn straight!
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Exactly right.
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by Mayor of 311 on Jul 17, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm just annoyed
because it doesn’t seem like he brought his plate discipline with him from the minors.
He swung and missed at 3 out of the zone breaking balls in one AB, and almost swung and missed at a 4th.
Not to mention the out of the zone breaking balls he was lucky to foul off.
by AmorVincitOmnia on Jul 17, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Bochy said that Bowker will definitely play tonight against the righty. I don’t mind if he sits Winn or Rowand, but something tells me it’s Nate that’s not going to play. Part of me is annoyed, but then I think maybe they just feel they have to evaluate Bowker before the trade deadline.
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Not enough Molina hate
he is seriously one of the worst players in baseball
no he's definitely one of the worst players in baseball
the only reason why he’s not negative in WAR is because they don’t know how to track catcher defense
His defense isn’t necessarily terrible enough to lower his value that much.
I’m in no way supporting him though. Eli Whiteside plz.
He's a terrible defender
I know our pitchers don’t help him out much but he can’t throw anybody out. Even when he has time he one hops the throw to second. I’m just sick of looking at him. If we re-sign this guy I’m going to be fucking sick. I wouldn’t even take him back for a minor league deal.
He definitely seems considerably slower behind the dish this year, and still struggles like crazy catching the FBs up.
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by Giant among Angels on Jul 18, 2009 6:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Bengie gave us two good years, so this year is not enough for me to hate him. However, GET HIM THE FUCK OUT OF THE CLEANUP SPOT!!!
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+1
At this point I don’t care if the need to put the pitcher in #4.
After last night it is obvious could not care less about string his less terrible bats together so he can semi reliably mount and threatening rally every few innings. He thinks (and demands) his few decent bats are good enough to place crap in between them and they will jump start the crappier ones. The strategy might work if his good batters are as effective as Panda but they are not and Big Head just will not adjust his strategy to the talent on hand. Instead he demands the talent execute what it is poorest at.
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The at-bat late in the game where he rolled over on a GD 2-0 pitch sums it all up. He’s looking for one pitch and one pitch only and he still manages to get him self out by hitting a pathetic dribbler.
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by Giant among Angels on Jul 18, 2009 6:54 AM PDT up reply actions
He really is a great example of needing to drop down a bit and maybe is bat gets going again. Also an example of Big Head needs to go a pair and use Whiteside more often. I am not the biggest Whiteside fan but Molina has looked worn down to a nub for over a month now.
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Not sure I consider the out a home a good defensive play.
The ball arrived way before the runner and I don’t know of any catcher in the majors that doesn’t make that play.
I thought he had a horrible game behind the plate, he was having trouble catching/blocking all game long. He almost cost the game in the 7th when he didn’t get the out on the strikeout.
considering the amount of time he had when he got the ball
every catcher in baseball should make that play
For a power hitter he has no power
And for a leadoff hitter Aaron Rowand can’t get on. I could go on forever…this lineup stunk tonight.
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I agree...
He had one of his worst games tonight as a Giant. I don’t think he’ll be in the majors next year.
He will be, hopefully not for us though.
As sad as it is that he’s our cleanup hitter, Molina is still a league average catcher.
by RoyaleWithCheese on Jul 18, 2009 2:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Omar Minaya will give him 3 yrs and 20 million dollars. The funny thing is that if he did sign with the Mets, he would probably help them because they would bat him eighth.
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In the Chron this morning, Jenkins said that the team can’t afford to let him go should let Poset play first next year. Wha?
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Yes.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
oh my god what is wrong with him
of all the positions to want to move posey to (even for just one season)…. FIRST???
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Keep in mind he has made remarks in the past that could be read as his inner fan boy having strong Dodger tendencies. The key words here being " could" and "inner fan boy". For a man that has been writing in this market for decades it is rather impressive that I am not really certain who his inner fan boy loves – unlike a certain Heathen that is currently on Sports Phone most nights – and for that I am grateful.
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agreed
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by Mayor of 311 on Jul 17, 2009 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
but they're veterans
can’t blame them. Lincecum should have done better.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
WHERE’S MY BURRITO?
I still believe in Bowkermania.
by rightcenterfielder on Jul 17, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Only two good things about this game...
1. Timmeh didn’t get the L.
2. I got delivered a pizza I didn’t even order!
Ted Wood.
by dangjackson on Jul 17, 2009 8:46 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
SFGuy: no more gif's of Number Five dancing before Giants wins are final. Got it?
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I posted it and said that the win wouldn’t happen. That we won’t see that at the end of the game. Was I wrong?
HAHAHAHAH SUCK IT SFGUY
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This attitude annoys me. Why did you spend hours watching and commenting if you don’t think it’s possible they’re going to win? We had the friggin best pitcher in baseball starting.
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
this
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Again:
Why did you spend hours watching and commenting if you don’t think it’s possible they’re going to win?
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
1. Playing Aurilia and Torres is stupid
Yes, everybody agrees with you
2. It’s impossible for the Giants to win with that lineup
I haven’t seen anybody agree with you.
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
Aurilia alone is so bad, he causes other Giant hitters to sink into deep depression. Soon, NO ONE IS HITTING AT ALL!! THAT’S WHY IT’S IMPOSSIBLE, OKAY??
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
O RLY YA?
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by Giant among Angels on Jul 18, 2009 6:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Whatever man
If you’re a fan you don’t write the team off when they have the best fucking pitcher in baseball going.
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I guess
but still. Crazy things happen. Don’t write them off before the game.
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You're really making a lot of friends, pal.
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by Mayor of 311 on Jul 17, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not the only one getting on these guys. We have Tim Freakin’ Lincecum going and they put that shit out there?
Yes
but we waited for it to actually happen before we commented. If it was Barry zito then that’s fine. But it was Tim Lincecum.
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Nobody is defending the lineup. It was lousy. We all knew it.
But — right or wrong, logically or illogically, rationally or irrationally — baseball fans thrive on superstition and trying to create the Right Energy and so forth. You are part of the McCoven community, which is a real community made up of real people. Part of that is some admittedly silly stuff, like respecting our customs and norms. One of those is posting that gif before Giants wins are secured. If you are going to be part of our community, you might consider some respect for the feelings of other real people who really make up this community.
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by Mayor of 311 on Jul 17, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions
GOOD LEARN YOUR LESSON
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DFA Aurilia and SFGuy
Just kidding, Guy
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by Useful_Idiot on Jul 18, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
CAN I FIND THIS ON AMAZON?
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by Giant among Angels on Jul 18, 2009 6:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Easy on SF Guy
I know him personally, and he’s a good man. He’s a pessimist though, and sometimes with this team it’s hard not to be. The Giants’ have managed to win a lot of games this year despite his negative comments.
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Morally wrong, yes. Spiritually wrong, yes.
Socially wrong, HELL yes.
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by Mayor of 311 on Jul 17, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Haiku
Rich Aurilia
You suck. You suck. You suck ass.
Please retire. Like, now.
by High_On_Lincecum's_Godliness on Jul 17, 2009 8:48 PM PDT reply actions
Aurilia just swung his bat at his locker in frustration. He missed.
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IRL LOL
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cogent
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Seriously, Richie really needs to go. Sure, Renteria has been bad, but because of his contract we are stuck with him. Richie, on the other hand, has no contractual reasons for us to keep him around. He is below replacement level at this point, and does not appear to have the ability to hit major league pitching. He is at 2002 Shawon Dunston levels right now.
We become a better team the second he is released.
Who, Renteria?
Rich shouldn’t even be batting 8th for Molly Putnam’s School for blind girls.
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by Giant among Angels on Jul 18, 2009 6:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Below replacement value? Hell, he's below grandma value.
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by Mayor of 311 on Jul 17, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Yup, after this weekend he will be hitting in the .100s
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by Giant among Angels on Jul 18, 2009 6:23 AM PDT up reply actions
A Request
Rich Aurilia would like you guys to use bigger fonts so he can read this.
Thanks!
Ted Wood.
by dangjackson on Jul 17, 2009 8:54 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
We could make it 32 point font and HE WOULD STILL MISS IT.
HEY-ooooh.
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by Mayor of 311 on Jul 17, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
He would definitely be on his front foot.
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by Giant among Angels on Jul 18, 2009 6:27 AM PDT up reply actions
NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Jul 17, 2009 8:50 PM PDT reply actions
Kruk just said the Giants need their veterans to get them through this loss… haha that was caused by the crappy veterans!
No one here gets out alive.
Something else
I know that this was only one game, but these are definitely the types of games that we need to win.
Despite the fact that the Giants are in the wild card lead, there are a whole hell of a lot of teams that are nipping at their heels, and they will probably continue to need to be one of the top two or three teams in the NL to maintain that lead.
The Giants cannot afford to lose games to Pat Maholm led Pirates teams when Timmy is on the mound. With Zito going tomorrow, there is a clear risk of dropping an important series to a bottom feeder team. That is not the type of things that playoff teams do with regularity.
Good thing the sun came out again this morning.
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by Giant among Angels on Jul 18, 2009 6:29 AM PDT up reply actions
it’s also my birthday. Thanks for ruining it, Giants!!
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Happy Birthday!
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 18, 2009 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Only thing worse than the fact that I wasted so much time watching this stupid game, is that I am now listening to Bip’s inane babble about the great Pirate pitching.
Bob " oh and five " howry
Play hard, then rock out even harder.
by TheBigLeburnski on Jul 17, 2009 8:55 PM PDT reply actions
Part of being a championship team is...
… of course, beating the teams you are supposed to beat. The Pirates are absolutely in that category. And when your pitching staff limits the opponent to ONE GODDAMN RUN in 13 innings, you HAVE to win those games.
All this was set in motion with a lineup that starts Aurilia etc.
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All I have to say on this game is 2 things.
1. This was the veteran line up that shat the bed like an elephant that has over dosed on EXLAX.
2. Bochy was the "Genius" that force feed all that EXLAX into the elephant in the first place.
That is all.
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You might not be a playoff team....
When your All-Star Cy Young pitcher lowers his low 2’s ERA and you still lose
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The broadcast crew heads to the bar. Wish I could join them.
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Like I said in the series preview, managers set their rotation to get the best possible matchups they can get with the help of the all star break. This moron somehow manages to make sure that Zito essentially gets two starts in the space of three games. If you’re so hung up on putting a lefty between Tim and Matt, why not use Sanchez, who’s probably your hottest pitcher based on his last start?
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and I keep saying… he’s trying to get the most out of Zito so they can move him before the trade deadline.
Shutup, just let me have my damn little fantasy okay?
I wanted to like Zito, I really did, but now, I dunno… I woke up this morning wishing this game was on NOW, just so we could get it over with. Now with a weather forecast of 110º heat AND a Zito start… there’s a black cloud of impending doom over the whole damn day.
“he’s trying to get the most out of Zito so they can move him before the trade deadline.”
But wouldn’t not having Zito pitch really be getting the most out of him?
I’m with rxmeister — I can’t believe Sanchez throws a no-no, and then has to watch from the bench as Zito gets two starts before he gets another one. That makes no sense, even if it didn’t run the risk of letting Sanchez get rusty when he was in a great groove. I get that they’re going to keep running Zito out there due to his contract, and their slavish devotion to treating vets like they own the place, but how did Zito earn the #2 spot in the rotation coming out of the break — by having the worst stats, or by having the worst last start?
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by Josh from Hollywood on Jul 18, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I dunno, she makes a whole lot of sense up there…
Wanted to like Zito, but doesn’t? Check.
Wish the game was on now just to get it over with? Check.
Dreading the heat and watching Zito pitch. Checkity-fucking-check.
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by Josh from Hollywood on Jul 18, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Shutup, just let me have my damn little fantasy okay?
That was in regards to getting the most out of Zito.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
Maybe I’m failing to make myself clear, but I’m trying to agree with her — fantasy, agony, and all.
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by Josh from Hollywood on Jul 18, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Every opportunity to win that game
And we can’t get it done. We made Paul Malholm look like a freaking All-Star out there. Seriously, has anybody learned anything from the Boston disaster? Renteria is not that good!
We should have signed Orlando Cabrera. Would’ve been a heck of a lot cheaper at least.
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OK seriously
FUCK YOU, bruce bochy. Your team got to 10 games over .500 by playing young guys who were hitting the ball well. So how do you start the second fucking half?
WITH RICH FUCKING AURILIA. holy fucking shit you fucking shit faced moron. RICH FUCKING AURILIA.
I can understand Rent and Uribe. Who is there that’s better? BUT RICH FUCKING AURLIA IS THE SHITTIES SHIT THAT EVER FUCKING SHIT AT PLAYING BASEBALL. and I don’t care if that doesn’t make sense. It still makes more sense than playing RICK FUCKING AURLIA ON A FUCKING MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL TEAM WHEN YOU’RE IN A RACE FOR A FUCKING PLAYOFF SPOT.
Holy shit what a shitface dickhead.
Also, RANDY FUCKING WINN SHOULD NOT FUCKING PLAY AGAINST FUCKING LEFT-HANDED PITCHING.
I’m so glad I didn’t watch the last innings of that game. It’s so fucking sad that I KNOW we’re losing when I see Howry in the game. What a fucktard.
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by bondslegend on Jul 17, 2009 9:00 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
SHIT THATS FUCK
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The thing is that you can kind of justify starting Richie against the LHP… BUT AS SOON AS THE PIRATES MANAGER PUT A RIGHTY IN, HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN OUT OF THE GAME. RICH AURILIA SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED TO TAKE ABS AGAINST A RHP AT THIS POINT IN HIS CAREER.
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He should not be on a fucking major league roster
I’m sorry. EVER. He should be at home banging his hot wife.
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Ishi’s at .556? :\
In like 15 AB or something.
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Yes
but he’s very good in the “He’s not fucking Rich fucking Aurlia” stat department.
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Yeah, he's like 1.000 NFRA
And it should be obvious to anyone in baseball: Ishikawa has SOME chance of improving against LHP (greater than zero chance) and offers good defense, whereas Aurilia has NO chance of improving whatsoever in anything, and offers lesser defense. So there is absolutely no loss whatsoever in having Ishikawa in there, the possibility of gain, certainly some more seasoning for TI.
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by Mayor of 311 on Jul 17, 2009 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Ishikawa’s been improving month by month in all areas of his game. Ishikawa should never sit again, unless for Bowker.
No Bowker at 1B please.
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by Giant among Angels on Jul 18, 2009 6:33 AM PDT up reply actions
FUCKING BRUE EEOACIDNOIFHEOIHVOIDHAOGEOGEWNOVHCOAIHDVCOUADBOCVUAEW
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I disagree with the premise; there is no way to justify Richie starting against anyone, period, ever, for the rest of time, always and everywhere.
I join the consensus that he should have been dumped before, but should certainly be dumped NOW. NOW. Tonight. NOW. On the bus ride back to the hotel.
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by Mayor of 311 on Jul 17, 2009 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions
reiterating my point from before. maybe that is the silver lining in this loss. bochy finally wakes the fuck up!
No one here gets out alive.
That is not going to happen, young citizen.
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by Mayor of 311 on Jul 17, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL hope
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Yes
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Sorry, but Ishi needs to platoon
He needs a veteran RH bat as a platoon partner. That’s basically all Aurelia can do anymore. He shouldn’t play third, or, lord help us, short. But he’s one of the great all time Giants. Have some respect.
That said, he does need to be released. If only we had a good RH hitting first baaeman in AAA.
Oh wait. . .
by Giantsfan4life on Jul 17, 2009 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously, a DFA of Rich and a call up of Jesus is way past overdue right now.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
seriously
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
(this is one of those situations where i was so flabbergasted i forgot the ?)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
IKR
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oh ok
I thought you meant Aurilia vs Guzman.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Guzman should be playing first against lefties. You can pull him early for defense or when the other team makes a pitching change. I’ve never heard of an automatic out being a righty platoon at first base because of defense.
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Um no
just no. I have all the respect in the world for what the guy did SIX FUCKING YEARS AGO.
But that has absolutely no impact on how I should view him today.
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Respect who he was
I completely agree, he’s past it, he needs to be replaced. And yes, Jesus should come up, that was my point. But he didn’t write his own name on a lineup card.
by Giantsfan4life on Jul 17, 2009 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
No
but he could easily have retired with some shred of dignity. It’s obvious he wants to keep it going because he thinks he’s better than he is.
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Well of course he does
He’s a professional athlete. Of course he thinks he’s better than he is. Remember Willie Mays in ‘73 falling down in the OF? And getting pissed because the Mets didn’t use him more as a PH?
by Giantsfan4life on Jul 17, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL no I don't
because I was 14 years from existing. But yes I see your point.
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I've never been happier to have Crabs
But that's the point
Willie was done. Willie shouldn’t have been playing anymore. Willie wasn’t doing himself any favors by being so overconfident and continuing to play.
It was Willie’s time. It is Rich’s time.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
Sure, but that's who these guys are
It’s precisely that competitive fire that made them great in the first place. That’s why the grownups in the room need to take away the car keys. Blame Sabes, blame Bochy, that’s totally fair. Richie’s doing the best he can. It isn’t good enough anymore; on that point we agree. So, yeah, do what Roy Rogers did to Silver.
by Giantsfan4life on Jul 17, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Horse analogy FAIL
Roy Rogers horse was Trigger. Lone Ranger’s horse was Silver.
Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!
But you should have seen what Roy was doing to Silver behind Trigger’s back…
Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 18, 2009 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions
if he had respect for his own career
he’d retire ala Mike Schmidt
Sorry, but Aurilia needs to not be in the majors
He’s not good enough to be on a major league roster, so he shouldn’t be on a major league roster.
That’s it. Aurilia just isn’t good enough to play in the majors. He’s done.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
Agreed, he can't play
I’m just saying, speak of the man with some respect.
by Giantsfan4life on Jul 17, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
No
if he wanted us to speak of him with respect he should have retired before he got this terrible. If/ when he retires I will respect him a lot more than I do now.
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I do respect the guy and all he’s done…but it’s time. At this point it’s clear Bochy won’t take him out back and tell him about the rabbits, but that doesn’t mean he should stay on the roster. It’s the big leagues. Spots are earned. He hasn’t earned his this year, and he hurts the team every time he takes an AB.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
Nice defense of Aurilia, Giantsfan-4life, but you’re talking about the guy like he was a Hall of Famer. He had one great year and a couple of good ones. You’re talking about the guy like he was Bonds. When he became an FA he overvalued himself and asked the Giants for 4 yrs 32 million. He then went out on the market and found out that all he was worth was one year at 4 million! He continues to overvalue himself today by thinking that he’s still a major league player. The Giants’ told him to take a hike once before, and they need to do it again.
Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!
One of the great all time Giants?
Don’t forget to take a towel!
Yes Ishi needs a platoon.
However ’ 09 Aurlia is not the platoon we are looking for on a Giant’squad above AA. There I said the cold an brutal turth against the guy that is the last link to the ’93 squad. And I feel shitty for saying but it has to be said at this point.
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
Take it from Courage Wolf Matt Cain
by SoFa King Mike on Jul 17, 2009 9:00 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
+1 for the Pacific Sock Exchange
Damn, I wish I still had that poster.
I still believe in Bowkermania.
by rightcenterfielder on Jul 17, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Pacific Sock Exchange
I never had the poster. But I want one! I still have the Beckett with them on the cover tho.
LOL
emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 17, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions
anyone have the .gif(s) of his home runs?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
my fantasy team sez yes
but my soul sez NOOOOOOOOO
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I've never been happier to have Crabs
BECAUSE MY FANTASY TEAM NEEDZ DINGERZ
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
BECAUSE WALKING HIM INTENTIONALLY EVERY TIME REGARDLESS OF SITUATION IS A RECIPE FOR DISASTER, EVEN MORESO THAN PITCHING TO HIM. AAAARGH.
Seriously. he’s great but if you pitch to him, he is still going to make an out ~55% of the time. Walk him when it makes sense, but both of his HR today were solo HR, in the 4th and 6th innings. It makes no sense to walk him in those situations.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
yup
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I've never been happier to have Crabs
roids will never go away
the testing cannot keep up with the technology
somebody should take him up on his offer on giving a blood test
I wonder if he’d back out, Sosa style
BUT HE SED HE WUZ CLEEN
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As soon as this game ended all I could think was...
Zito’s pitching tomorrow with a tired bullpen. Are we about to witness worse carnage?
“No. we need Winn to get is going from the right side of the plate.”
- overheard from near Big Head’s lap top.
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
I don’t think Big Head is aware of the existence of computers.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
99% of this thread could have out managed Bochy tonight. Im sorry
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only 99?
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Rox Girl
Would have managed about as well, even if she was throwing the game
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Funny you should say that.
When I came back in the 11th ( dinner, dogs etc) and looked at the box and results I thought " So this is what baseball was afraid of with Rose managing." I am not saying Big Head would do that – In fact I can’t believe he ever would be does love the game too much – but the very fact his actions even placed that though in my head, however briefly, is a testament to the monument of stupidity and bullheadedness he built last night.
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
That's actually sort of a tricky thought experiment,
How to manage the Giants to lose without looking like that’s your ultimate goal so you don’t get caught and can keep on doing it? So the obvious things of putting Lincecum in the bullpen and sitting Sandoval for not being veterany enough are clearly out. I guess I would probably do things like be sure to sit Schierholtz and Ishikawa against all LHP’s to give as many AB’s to Aurillia and Torres as possible, maybe try to finagle my post-All Star rotation to give Barry Zito as many starts as possible in the second half, you know, subtle stuff like that…
err… I mean, no, I would do something totally different from what Bochy’s doing right now. Totally different.
this night and every other night
he’s just not very smart.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
My cat could outmanage Bochy.
One advantage of having my cat manage: he LOVES to watch quick, darting movement, and so he would manage so as to produce much of it. Bochy manages to minimize movement.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Jul 17, 2009 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions
They don’t need to decide until the 5th spot in the rotation comes up.
Judgment Day is coming
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It might be today of tommarrow. I don’t imagine the ‘Pen is going to be in good shape come Sunday. Even money Sundays game is The Mule will have the trudge to Big Head freakin’ rescue again. So thta means Cain for 8 inning or 250 pitches -whichever comes first.
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
I put the Marlins-Phillies game on
because it’s fun to see a game where it’s after midnight there.
I didn’t know the Marlins used cheerleaders.
Manatees
They also use a male dance team comprised of fellas who are large and in charge. I’d like to party with those guys.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 17, 2009 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions
The time has come...
To send JT Snow to Fresno and tell him he isn’t allowed to go home until Jesus plays a mediocre first base. Dude is hitting .350 against lefties this year. Please JT, for the love of god man, help!!!!!!! We can’t take any more richie
JT isn’t a magical defense fairy that bestows special defensive powers upon others.
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BUT WHAT’S DOES HE SAY ABOUT IT?
Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
by Zetsuboushita on Jul 17, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Well I got my wish. The game is over.
Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
Next time I will wish for a crate of Valencia oranges to hide in when Bochy puts out another LOLINEUP.
Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
by Zetsuboushita on Jul 17, 2009 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions
He puts one of those out every game…
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
We're Giants fans
So the cash will be counterfeit and the dreamboat will be related to us in some way.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 17, 2009 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s bad.
Anagram of "knowing how to win" = WOW, I KNOW NOTHING
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jul 17, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
it comes with your choice of free toppings!
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 17, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
the toppings contain sodium benzoate
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 17, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
...that's bad
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 17, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions
One of the more publicized elements to the Kevin Towers/Bruce Bochy falling out involved Vinny Castilla. Castilla was awful. Bochy kept playing him. Towers would say, hey, did you ever think about, you know, not playing him? And Bochy said something like, if you don’t want me to use him, why in the hell is he on the roster? So Towers released Castilla. It’s kind of like a bedtime story, no? After the last sentence, you tuck in your kid and smile, and your kid wishes this were the kind of world where fairy tales like that could really come true.
Are we seeing the same thing now with Aurilia, and could we possibly see an equal result?
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by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jul 17, 2009 9:29 PM PDT reply actions
But we don’t have Kevin Towers to release him. If Bochy said, re-sign Aurilia for two more years, Sabean would.
I forgot about this story, but I was just about to make this same point.
I think it’s clear to all of us that Aurilia is done. But I think the blame is somewhat misplaced when it lands on Bochy. I just think it’s difficult for a manager to completely bench one of his players, and never, ever play him. I mean, as a fan I’m thinking, “I’d bench him!! I’d say, ‘Sorry Rich but you’re horrible and I can’t in good conscience let you see the light of day’.” I’m sure we all wish Bochy would do something along those lines. But IRL a major league manager does have to consider his players’ feelings. He has to consider player morale. As long as Aurilia is on the roster, I’m sure Bochy feels as if he has to play him at least a little.
Going into tonight’s game, Aurilia had only had 4 ABs this month—3 in one game, when he started at 3B against Roy Oswalt, a RHP. And he homered off him. The one time this month (before tonight) a lefty started against the Giants, Travis got the start.
I do think Aurilia should not be on the roster. But Brian Sabean is the guy who ill-advisedly signed Aurillia, and he’s the one who truly has the power to get rid of him. To me, the ongoing Rich Aurilia debacle is much more the responsibility of Brian Sabean than it is Bruce Bochy. Sabean should learn the lesson that Kevin Towers finally did when he got rid of Vinny Castilla.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
Vinny went on to coach the Mexican national baseball team
Richie can have a coaching/advising opportunity in his future as well. He’s been a good Giant and he’s well liked in the org. Just give it up, man.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 17, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Agree with your premise, but not the application
Yes, a manager has to consider the psychology of the players in addition to their physicality. Sure. In NO WAY does that mean that Richie should START under hardly any circumstances, and for DAMN SURE not the FIRST GAME AFTER FIVE DAYS OFF. Ridiculous. Aurilia knows he isn’t doing well; it’s not like he is sitting on the bench wondering why he is there.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Jul 17, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
+1 and piling on.
And why insist on a carrier #5 OF in his 30’s and another OF that is barely on the interstate vs LHP get like 8 P.A.’s in the same game as they play Richie is just beyond stupid.
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Fair enough...
OK, good points. And look, I’m not trying to absolve Bochy of all blame. I agree that the timing of Aurilia’s start was poor. Exceedingly poor, perhaps. But I did want to point out that Bochy has curtailed Aurilia’s playing time pretty severely of late (not severely enough, thanks to last night).
To me, the problem is about 3 parts Bochy and 7 parts Sabean. Sabean, who is so ridiculously enamored with veterans and intangibles and speed and aggressiveness at the plate, and has hired managers and coaches throughout the system with the same values. Sabean, who has saddled this team (and us) with five straight years now, of punchless lineups. Sabean, who presided over a minor league system that failed to produce a major league caliber hitter for 12 years. Sabean, who hasn’t a clue how to evaluate major league hitting. When Sabean’s farm system produced no viable catchers, second basemen, shortstops, outfielders, or first basemen, he went out and signed whatever washed-up, second or third-tier veterans happened to be available. That strategy has given us years of non-entities like Edgardo Alfonzo, Edgar Renteria, Michael Tucker, Ryan Klesko, Dave Roberts, Jose Castillo (maybe fourth or fifth tier), and (ahem) Rich Aurilia. Even Sabean’s most glorious successes have been with players who have only been moderately productive, guys like Ray Durham, Mike Matheney, Omar Vizquel, Aaron Rowand, and Randy Winn.
So, as much as I dislike seeing Aurilia in the lineup, and as much as I am willing to join in with the angry mob that is calling for Bruce Bochy to be slapped upside his sizable head for having the temerity to write Richie’s name on a lineup card, I still say that Brian Sabean is the guy who ultimately is keeping the Giants from winning a World Series. I don’t have confidence that this roster of hitters is anywhere near enough to win a World Series—even with the supremely talented pitching staff leading the way. And I don’t have confidence that Sabean has even a whit of a clue as to how to properly make the very few moves needed to take this Giants team to that championship level.
That’s what’s bugging me right now.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
We don't disagree
I would add the Ellis Burks experience as an ongoing detriment: Ellis was plucked off the ash-heap of MLB, and goes on to be THE indispensible ingredient in our 2000 team. But the drawback is that Sabean, instead of recognizing that for a blessing and a lightning bolt in a bottle, he saw that as a business model. Dammit. It’s lightning in a bottle when something like that happens. Christ almighty. So he’s been trying to re-create the Ellis experience ever since. Grrr.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Jul 18, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Great point about Ellis...
That’s an angle I’ve never considered before, and I have to say, it’s “I’d like to subscribe to your newsletter” spot-on.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
That's all on Richie...
I think I explained that earlier.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
14 innings much of those against RHP
Not one Ishikawa at bat.
This is on Bochy. The lineup was constructed from fail at the start.
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 17, 2009 9:30 PM PDT reply actions
Plus, let's be honest
If Bochy were fired, and replaced with Earl Casey Weaver Stengel, we’d hate him just as much within a couple of weeks.
by Giantsfan4life on Jul 17, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
You'll never hear Baggs say a bad thing about Aurillia
only Lewis gets that treatment
Remember Schulman's story for the game when Aurilia won it with a homer?
The SUCK IT AURILIA HATERS story?
…yeah.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
And we all feared it would buy him another month.
Little did we know it would buy him the remainder of the motherlovin’ season.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Jul 17, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I get that funny feeling about Winn’s single vs Maholm late in teh game as well. Now we recieve “The Gift” of seeing Winn get every P.A. vs. LHP tell after Labor Day and is matter not if he makes contact durring any of them.
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
i think it was him who wrote something like
wut u fink about renteria contrac now? IT GUD RITE? YEA SUCKIT hATRES!
by i wish we were good on Jul 17, 2009 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Are we through rabbling?
Lets acquire some batz
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XO
Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
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by Zetsuboushita on Jul 17, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
In other news
Suck It Russell Martin was hit by a pitch thrown by Roy Oswalt
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He was askin’ for it.
I still believe in Bowkermania.
by rightcenterfielder on Jul 17, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Alderson in his last four starts: six strikeouts in 21 innings with a 5.57 ERA.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Seven home runs and nine RBIs!
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Looks like some AAAA dude from his page on The Baseball Cube. Doing something right, as he was just picked up in my fantasy league.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 17, 2009 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Anagram of "Should Rich Aurilia be released?"
DELIRIOUS, CRUEL, DESIRABLE. HA HA!
Anagram of "knowing how to win" = WOW, I KNOW NOTHING
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jul 17, 2009 9:43 PM PDT reply actions
IAWTA
Fred Lewis can stand under my umbrella.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
We are at war with Los Angeles. We have always been at war with Los Angeles.
Lowering the Quality of Internet Discourse Since 1985™
by S.F. Giangst on Jul 17, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Bye Wildcard lead
It was cool to know you for a while, but the Rockies dont lose and we cant score;
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I kinda want this to happen
So we don’t pretend this is a good hitting ballclub. Either changes will be made, or we can forget about pretending to go for it this year and wait for the cavalry next year.
It’s the wake up call we need so people stop looking around and think we can win with what we have. We can’t. This offense fucking sucks dick.
With Lincecum and Cain, the Giants could be in this the rest of the season (but losing 1-0 or 2-1 in said games cancels things out).
If we lose tomorrow and the Rockies win, we are no longer the leader of the WC. I kinda want that to happen. It is the wake up call we need.
It’s entirely possible but for some reason, I have confidence if the Giants have the regular lineup other than Molina out there.
that will happen no matter what. We just have to play the hand we are dealt.
In other news, Baggs new article makes it sound like even the Giants know Aurilia is a problem. In the end though, I"m sure the roster move for 5th starter is going to be Bowker option to AAA.
Lewis for Francoeur?
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!!
And some guy thinks Lewis isn’t worth Francoeur. Good lord, I can’t believe people’s views of Lewis are skewed that much (and that Francoeur is still thought of as having any value whatsoever.)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
The Giants are the worst team in the history of the universe.
Fred Lewis can stand under my umbrella.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
We are at war with Los Angeles. We have always been at war with Los Angeles.
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14 LOB by the giants
Renteria is anti-clutch
how good is the giants' starting rotation? our rotation is so good, our 5th starters throw no-hitters. uh.
by Golden Gate Review on Jul 17, 2009 10:10 PM PDT reply actions
We’re less than double-digits over .500
Season over.
Fred Lewis can stand under my umbrella.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
We are at war with Los Angeles. We have always been at war with Los Angeles.
Lowering the Quality of Internet Discourse Since 1985™
No offense, no hope
It’s a game like this that reminds us how low a priority getting Halladay should be.
"[Greg] Vaughn is in a funk so deep, George Clinton wearing a miner's helmet couldn't find him."
- Jim Baker, ESPN.com, May 2002
by achiappanza on Jul 17, 2009 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I would settle for no more lineup cards were 7 of the starting 8 are over 30 years old and were signed as free agents. Funny how that type of lineup cards have not done well for like 5 years for the Giants.
It is also funny when more than 2 of the starting 8 are under 30 and not free agent signees this team wins and occasionally score runs. Perhaps Big Head is just trying to collect more data points to as to figure were the more talented ( or less disastrous) players are?
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
F@#$
This game
Congratulations and Thank you Jonathan Sanchez.
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 17, 2009 11:28 PM PDT reply actions
Remember that time
when Aurilia drove Steve Holm in to win the game?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Jul 18, 2009 6:28 AM PDT reply actions
so awesome
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Jul 18, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
opening this thread up feels like opening the ark & covenant
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 18, 2009 11:00 AM PDT reply actions
Can't blame him
I didn’t want to watch the game either.
Judgment Day is coming
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Hey look
I would switch Bowker and Nate, but hey, at least they’re playing. One step at a time.
CF Winn
LF Bowker
3B Sandoval
RF Schierholtz
1B Ishikawa
2B Uribe
SS Renteria
C Whiteside
P Zito
Insanity is just a state of mind.
I wouldn’t bat Bowker second, but I don’t want him killing rallies after Pablo either. Batting Nate and Ishi back to back scares me. It makes me think he’ll pinch hit Aurilia late in the game if the Pirates bring in a lefty.
Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!
I Agree with your point.
My wish is the The Big Head figures Panda is gettinga bit of a reputation as a hitter and but placeing Bowker in front of him Bowker will see more fastballs. Panda is good but I don’t think he has reached that status yet but Big Head knows all.
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
having Panda behind him would just make me want to throw Bowker nothing but those low and inside breaking balls that he can’t hit/lay off of.
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
Give Frandsen another look in Edgidp’s place and I’d be very pleased with that lineup.
"I can't hit the ball until I hit the bottle!"
by Li on Jul 18, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait a moment now.
With out repeated direct orders for the GM’s office you have have at least 4 over 30 free agent Vets in the starting 8 else the Big Head just comes compleately unraveled. He would probably start double switching people in teh 2nd inng regaurdless of the score.
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
Then lock him in his office together with Aurilia where they can talk about the good old days instead of hurting the team.
"I can't hit the ball until I hit the bottle!"
by Li on Jul 18, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Now look here ...
this Sensible Logic stuff has no place in the Giants Way.
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
I think that this is probably the optimal lineup for these players. I dunno if l like the PLAYERS, but the arrangement is good.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
Agreed... unfortunately, Zito & the Pirates won't co-operate.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Jul 18, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
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