I want Hanley
All of this trade talk is fun but there isn't much out there that excites me. Now if we could get Hanley Ramirez somehow I would definitely be interested. I'd happily give up ANY of our big four to get him. I really have no idea what it would take to get a player like him but he WOULD be the sort of upgrade we need. I don't want Dye or Martinez or Uggla or who knows what. I'm happy to stand pat and exceed expectations this year even if we don't go all the way. If we are going to try to go all the way and need a trade to do it, I don't want to mess things up. The way I see it: C - Molina is probably not expendable because he IS a core part of the team. He may suck huge donkey balls in the cleanup spot but he also seems to be good for the team beyond this. 1b - Ishi should be given every chance to prove whether he is a starter or not. So far he has done nothing to show that he definitely isn't. Let him play as his upside is pretty good and we aren't likely to replace that in a trade. I mean if he lives up to his potential we won't be able to replace that in trade. If he just plays meh...then we will know by the end of the year. 2b - The one spot where we definitely could see improvement. Don't give up anything super valuable, though. SS - I would happily trade Renteria. Shit, I'd move him to 2b if we could get Hanley. Otherwise we are stuck with him for another year and AFAIK he is league average at the position. 3b - Covered. OF - Rowand is here for a while. Schierholtz is being given the chance to succeed and he is the same as Ishi...if he lives up to potential we aren't going to be able to replace him via trade very easily so why trade. LF is the headache. We are probably stuck with Winn and this is not a bad thing. Lewis is toast and should be sent to the minors. Torres is a serviceable 4th. We have Bowker tearing it up in Fresno so why not bring him up and see what he can do. He had success last year to a decent degree. Anyway, that was rambley but why trade at all? This year was supposed to be a progress year and we are doing that just fine. Just because we have a good shot at the playoffs doesn't mean we have to start getting all crazy. Unless we can get Hanley...
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I think that conversation would start and stop with Lincecum plus, as Hanley is widely regarded as one of the top-five players in the game, value wise.
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by GiantsFanInExile on Jul 1, 2009 11:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Did you mean to make this a fanpost?
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by jponry on Jul 1, 2009 11:49 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
and for the last time
Lewis is out of options.
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by jponry on Jul 1, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought he had one. No worries, just trade him or something. :p
by positiveuphemism on Jul 1, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Call me a cynic but I don’t believe this is the last time.
by Evan on Jul 1, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s the last time before jponry snaps
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by groug on Jul 1, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by nvsfg on Jul 1, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No. I just got carried away and started rambling. Tired of all the “trade” posts.
by positiveuphemism on Jul 1, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We’re not getting Hanley.
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by Natto on Jul 1, 2009 12:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
BUT IN MLB 2K9 I TRADED MANNY BURRISS FOR HIM!
by Hobbes2d on Jul 1, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You never know. No one expected them to trade Willis and Cabrera, at the same time no less.
by positiveuphemism on Jul 1, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought they were openly seeking trades for both of those players?
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by ResDog on Jul 1, 2009 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You may be right. I remember it coming out of nowhere, though. The Willis part at least. I remember the McCoven fantasizing about Cabrera.
by positiveuphemism on Jul 1, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They’re currently in a pretty good position to make a move on first place in their division, which I would think would douse some of their enthusiasm for trading. It’s Florida so who the hell knows, but still.
Oh and EVERYBODY expected them to move Cabrera in the offseason before he began to strike it rich in arbitration.
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by Roger on Jul 1, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The thing is, you said you’d happily give up any of the big four to get him… would you be willing to give him two of them or even three or four of them? Because that’s what it would take.
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by jponry on Jul 1, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope. Hanley is only in FL for 2 more years. I think 2 full years would be worth one of the big four.
by positiveuphemism on Jul 1, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's signed through 2014
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by groug on Jul 1, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh wow. I thought he was a FA after his 6th year. Didn’t realize they had extended him.
by positiveuphemism on Jul 1, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then you probably aren’t getting him. I mean, consider that the package for Cabrera (Miller and Maybin) at the time was probably about equivalent to Bumgarner and Villalona. Then consider that Hanley is signed for longer, is arguably a more complete player than Cabrera was, plays a more valuable position (SS vs 1B), etc etc and you might have to get into adding Alderson to the deal territory.
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by jponry on Jul 1, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would definitely trade two of them. Probably Bumgarner and Villalona. And then a top B prospect like Neal. The chances that the three of them develop to be worth as much as Hanley aren’t high enough to make this taboo.
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by cheno on Jul 1, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you were the Marlins, though, would you take that? No. You have to look at the trade from both sides. If it was Bumgarner, Villalona, Neal, and then maybe something like Sosa and Crawford, that’s when you’re starting to get closer…
by Missing Barry on Jul 2, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But at least its a realistic block-o-text
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by CB30 on Jul 1, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I couldn’t tell you. I stopped reading it after a sentence or two.
by xanthan on Jul 1, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean your search algorithm flagged “Hanley Ramirez” and “trade” and triggered a LOLWUT?
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by Zetsuboushita on Jul 1, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
While we are robbing the Marlins blind can we also ask for Mike Stanton?
by wilriv21 on Jul 1, 2009 1:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
and I want Grady Sizemore and Zack Greinke
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 1, 2009 3:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’d settle for a pony and a rocketship.
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