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minor lines, 6/30/09

The daily highlight: (a) John Bowker homered while reaching base four times for the second straight day.  Now to other highlights from the Giants' farm: (b) Pucetas did not allow an earned run in 7.0 IP; (c) Brett Pill had a triple, double and single; (d) Henry Sosa did not allow a run in his start;  (e) Thomas Neal has three XBHs; and (f) Andrew Biery reached base in all five plate appearances.

Star-divide

AAA: Fresno defeated Salt Lake 4-1

Fresno: LF John Bowker: 2 for 4, HR, 2 BB, CS
Fresno: DH Joe Borchard: 2 for 4, 3B
Salt Lake: 1B Brandon Wood: 1 for 2, 2B, BB

Fresno: RHP Kevin Pucetas: 7.0 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 2 K
Fresno: RHP Ronnie Ray: 1.0 IP, 2 K

Another big game for Bowker.  For the second night in a row, he homered while reaching base in all four plate appearances.  He finished June hitting .392/.479/.843 in 102 AB this month.  Borchard, the other other Grizzly to reach base twice, had two hits to raise his AVG back above .250.  For the Angels' affiliate, Wood's double and walk accounted for two of their five baserunners.

Pucetas had another fine start, improving his ERA to 3.17.  Tonight he had a 12/6 GO/FO line, but his GO/AO ratio for the season is not much above 1.00.  He's enjoyed a lot of success considering how many fly ball outs he gets (as opposed to strikeouts or groundball outs).  Ray had his third straight game with multiple strikeouts.

AA: Connecticut lost to Harrisburg 4-3

Connecticut: 2B Brock Bond: 2 for 4, 2B
Connecticut: 1B Brett Pill: 3 for 4, 3B, 2B

Connecticut: RHP Henry Sosa: 5.1 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 3 K--1 HB
Connecticut: RHP Dan Griffin: 0.1 IP, 2 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB--1 HR, 1 HB

With multi-hit lines in seven of his last eight games, Pill finished June on a tear.  Tonight's line included his 1st triple and 25th double, raising his SLG to .498.  A year ago in the more hitter-friendly Cal League, his SLG was just .395.  Bond was the other Defender to reach base twice.  Both Bond and Pill hit close to .370 in June.

Sosa pitched at least five full innings once again, something he accomplished in all ten of his starts in May and June, although he has yet to pitch into the 7th inning this year.  In May and June, he combined for 46 H, 20 BB, and 31 K in 55.1 IP with a 2.11 ERA.  After a 5/8 GO/FO line tonight, his GO/AO ratio for the year is just 0.59.  Like Pucetas, he has a very good ERA despite getting a high proportion of his outs as fly balls.  Griffin retired just one of the five batters he faced before being ejected in the 6th inning.  His peripheral stats are generally pretty good, but his ERA is 5.80.

A+: San Jose defeated Modesto 13-1

San Jose: SS Brian Bocock: 2 for 4, 2B, BB, SO
San Jose: LF Thomas Neal: 3 for 5, 3B, 2 2B, SO
San Jose: 1B Angel Villalona: 3 for 5
San Jose: CF Darren Ford: 3 for 4, 3B

San Jose: RHP Joe Martinez: 4.1 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 2 K

Neal had a huge game with his 3rd triple and 21st and 22nd doubles, raising his SLG to .612.  Villalona and Ford also had three hits each, improving their AVGs to .275 and .217.  Bocock was a fourth Giant to reach base three times.

Pitching on four days rest, Martinez made his third and longest rehab appearance.  In his three rehab starts, he has 7 H, 2 BB, 5 R and 8 K in 10.0 IP.

A-: Augusta defeated Lexington 7-2

Augusta: CF Dom Duggan: 2 for 4, 2B, HBP, SB
Augusta: LF Wendell Fairley: 2 for 3, BB, SO

Augusta: RHP Eric Stolp: 6.0 IP, 6 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 2 K
Augusta: RHP Edwin Quirarte: 1.0 IP
Lexington: RHP Ross Seaton: 5.1 IP, 6 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 2 BB, 5 K--1 HB, 2 WP

Duggan and Fairley both reached base three times, although both still have AVGs appreciably below .250.

Stolp made his first start in twelve days, the result of being the last starter in the GreenJackets' rotation scheduled around the all-star break.  Quirarte pitched a perfect 9th inning.  On the first day of June, the Astros' Season pitched a complete-game, three-hit shutout against the GreenJackets.  This time he did not fare quite as well.

ssA: Salem-Keizer defeated Vancouver 8-4

Salem-Keizer: 3B Andrew Biery: 3 for 3, BB, HBP
Salem-Keizer: DH Ryan Mantle: 0 for 5, SO

Salem-Keizer: RHP Orlando Yntema: 5.2 IP, 6 H, 2 R,1 ER, 1 BB, 3 K
Salem-Keizer: RHP Jose Casilla: 1.0 IP, 2 K

Biery (22nd rounder) reached base in all five of his plate appearances.  After going hitless in his first three pro games, he now has a six-game hitting streak to raise his AVG to .367 through 30 AB.  After tonight's oh-fer, Mantle, a late round draftee a year ago, is now just 1 for 17 to start this season.

Yntema made his second straight start allowing just 1 ER.  The 20-year-old Casilla, who was limited to just eight appearances (five starts) last year has yet to allow a baserunner in his five appearances this year.

R: Giants at Angels suspended after three innings due to a power problem

Scottsdale: CF Evan Crawford: 2 for 2, SB

Scottsdale: RHP Bryan Salsbury: 3.0 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 3 K--1 WP

Batting leadoff in his second pro game, Crawford (9th rounder) had two of the rookie Giants' three base hits.  He also had his 1st pro steal.

In his first pro start after two relief appearances, Salsbury (14th rounder) faced just one batter over the minimum.

DSL: Giants lost to Blue Jays 5-4 (10 innings)

Dominican: C Rey Duran: 2 for 5, SO
Dominican: LHP Ebert Fernandez: 4.0 IP, 4 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 3 BB, 2 K--1 WP

Duran (19.11 y.o.) had the Gigantes' only multi-hit line, leaving his AVG just a few points shy of .300.  Fernandez (18.8 y.o.) has a 4.39 ERA after four starts.

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Free Thomas Neal!!! Or is still too early to start yelling that?

by m34josh on Jul 1, 2009 12:33 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree with Steve’s comment yesterday. Promoting him shortly before the AA All Star Break doesn’t make that much sense. It’s just time he could be playing regularly in SJ. Especially seeing as how he came back from his own All Star Break a little cold prior to yesterday.

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Jul 1, 2009 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

JOEY!

El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."

by ResDog on Jul 1, 2009 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

YEAHH JOEY

Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on Jul 1, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it’s time for some bowkermania, brother!

Prospective parent of new pick, Zack Wheeler. Projectable Righty stolen from the braves. Of course, I stalk my son's myspace: http://www.myspace.com/zackwheelerbaseball

"Obviously I’m not doing things like going toe-to-toe with a ninja. Find me a ninja, for one."--Brian Wilson

by haverecords on Jul 1, 2009 12:52 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Jack Bowker continues to impress
Kevin Pucetas pumping up his trade value
Henry Sosa: see Kevin Pucetas
Brett Pill continues to roll
Have not seen Jacks Williams in Connecticut starting lineup, is he ok?
Good to see Big V break out of his slump
Thomas Neal is one of the prospects that needs to be protected and added to roster this winter
Good thing about the 16yr old Rodriguez is that he makes contact and seldom Ks

by wilriv21 on Jul 1, 2009 12:58 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

rafrod taking BBs is encouraging too but it might just be wild pitchers early in the season

by MetalFaceDoom on Jul 1, 2009 1:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rodriguez showed good contact before he was signed. He’s got an odd swing, and it is a question whether his raw power will fully develop, but his contact ability was what most sold the giants on him, besides his athleticism.

I’m not sure if Neal needs to be protected from this years Rule 5, or next (meaning 2010). He was drafted (and signed) under 19 years of age, which means the he has 4 years until Rule 5 eligibility—which would put him at this year if he signed in 05. But, as a draft and follow, he may have only signed a 2006 contract, which might make it 2010. Not sure how it is going to work out here.

Prospective parent of new pick, Zack Wheeler. Projectable Righty stolen from the braves. Of course, I stalk my son's myspace: http://www.myspace.com/zackwheelerbaseball

"Obviously I’m not doing things like going toe-to-toe with a ninja. Find me a ninja, for one."--Brian Wilson

by haverecords on Jul 1, 2009 1:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kevin Pucetas pumping up his trade value

Not really!

by xanthan on Jul 1, 2009 5:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d say he’s pumping up his San Francisco value.

Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005. And winner of the 2012 NL Fireman of the Year Award!

by Lyle on Jul 1, 2009 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s better than Sadowski!

by xanthan on Jul 1, 2009 7:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He doesn’t throw particularly hard, he doesn’t strike out many batters, and as Steve has noted, he gets a lot of fly ball outs. He’s either an all-time outlier, or he’s on a magic carpet ride that won’t last long in the majors. Hard to see another club taking him as a major piece of a major trade.

Disfrute Los Gigantes every day at www.leftymalo.com

by leftymalo on Jul 1, 2009 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

But, at this point, I really just want to see him pitch. I’m curious and I want to see how he’s doing it. His luck has been going on for a long, long time now; he’s outperformed his FIP for almost 440 innings. The last two seasons have been in rough leagues for pitchers as well.

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.

by marcello on Jul 1, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s got great control, but his K/9 has dropped from being in the 6’s and 7’s to 5.21 this year in AAA. I just wonder how much further it will drop (if it does) in the majors. He’s supposed to have great movement on his pitches, but he’s giving up a lot of flyballs.

I like him better than Sadowski, but I’d probably rate Joe Martinez ahead of Pucetas. He’s nice to have around, but in no way anything other than a C+ prospect in a trade.

by xanthan on Jul 1, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely, I’m just really curious.

Also, it looks like they’re getting Martinez ready for the 5th spot. Although, maybe they’re just trying to get him as much work as possible.

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.

by marcello on Jul 1, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m curious too, and I hope he can have some Rueter-ish success. I just don’t think he’ll be coveted. (McCoveted?)

Disfrute Los Gigantes every day at www.leftymalo.com

by leftymalo on Jul 1, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pucetas and Sosa do not need to be major parts of a trade they just need to be part of a major trade

by wilriv21 on Jul 1, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Teams desire our borderline prospects!

by xanthan on Jul 1, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Teams desire our borderline prospects! borderline pitching prospects!

by wilriv21 on Jul 1, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Teams desire our borderline prospects! borderline pitching prospects!

by wilriv21 on Jul 1, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jacks

Hasn’t played in a week and is currently not listed on the CT roster. Must have gone on the DL, though I don’t know what the injury is. I’d guess it’s nothing too serious as they haven’t added a 2nd catcher to the roster. Witter could play in an emergency, but if it was anything long-term they’d certainly get somebody there to spell LaTorre.

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Jul 1, 2009 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

From Eastern League Transactions
Jackson Williams assigned to Giants Extended Spring Training from Connecticut Defenders.

That is probably one of those pretend assignments they seem to do all the time in the minors.

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 1, 2009 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Believe the brother will have a long career in the majors

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Jul 1, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So does Witter no longer play catcher for the most part?

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on Jul 1, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s basically a DH in Connecticut.

by flyonthewall on Jul 1, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bowker

is making me shiver.

by DesertFox on Jul 1, 2009 1:06 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Might we have another Jack “the Ripper” Clark?
Hey! This is not my 79 win flavor Kool Aid.

/puts cup down and stares at it uneasily.

Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Fuggen Rox! You might want to try beating The Bums more than once in 10 games. Try it. You might find you like it.

by daveinexile on Jul 1, 2009 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry I had some extra GHB (Great Hitter, Bowker), so I shared

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 1, 2009 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I feel kind of funny inside. What is feeling called?

Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Fuggen Rox! You might want to try beating The Bums more than once in 10 games. Try it. You might find you like it.

by daveinexile on Jul 1, 2009 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

shushhh, just relax and go with the moment

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jul 1, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pill

That Pill name just keeps popping up on here.

by flyonthewall on Jul 1, 2009 1:13 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Bowker!

Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?

by shikantaza on Jul 1, 2009 1:23 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I hear folks say Bowker is a career minor leaguer who has done what he is doing before…but has he? In his previous 97 ABs in Fresno he batted somewhere around .250 with 3 HRs. In 2007 w/ CT he hit 22 HRs, many of those at Dodd Stadium, which isn’t really a hitter’s field. I think he was thrown into the majors too quickly and struggled. I’d REALLY like to see what he can do at the major league level. He hit ANOTHER HR last night (16) and went 2-2. He’s batting .359. Why the F’K people are wanting to trade away prospects such as Neal (went 3-5 last night with 2 doubles and a triple, is batting .349 w/ 13 HRs) or Alderson for folks like Holliday, Huff, and Uggla baffles my mind when Bowker hasn’t even been given an AB with the parent club. So you’d REALLY prefer a player who’ll bat .250 -.270 w/ 20-25 HRs (possibly) over giving the dude who is LIGHTING UP Fresno a shot? People, that makes NO f’n sense to me. Bring him up, let him show what he can do. He can’t do worse than Winn, Lewis, Ishikawa, or Aurilia.

Matt Cain's right hand beats a Royal Flush.

by Viva Gigantes on Jul 1, 2009 4:28 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Um...

I really don’t think many people are saying that about Bowker.

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Jul 1, 2009 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not here. But other boards have a shockingly high degree of, "He is Linden jr." type comments on them.

Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Fuggen Rox! You might want to try beating The Bums more than once in 10 games. Try it. You might find you like it.

by daveinexile on Jul 1, 2009 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess I can kind of understand it… they’ve been burned before. But there are a lot of reasons to be encouraged by what Bowker’s doing (I refused to be a believer for a long time, but now it’s like…well, it’s hard not to be.)

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 1, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I refused to be a believer for a long time

FOR SHAME

by xanthan on Jul 1, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

BOWKERMANIA WAS A LIE.

NOW IT IS DELICIOUS.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 1, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is the internet, you NEVER admit that you were wrong.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jul 1, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s like Rule #1

by xanthan on Jul 1, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Bowker. I thought he was a better hitting prospect than Ishikawa at the end of last year, and I think so today. But the Giants are winning, and you can’t start DFA-ing players without consideration to what it does to chemistry. We’ve got a trading deadline coming up. Perhaps there’s a buyer somewhere (longshot) for Freddy Lewis ?
Also, you have to consider where we play the man? Let’s say we DFA’d Lewis (who’s clearly at the bottom of the outfield rotation) and brought up Bowker, he would be the worst defensive outfielder and first baseman on the depth chart. What’s more is that he, like Nate Schierholtz are limited to right field. So, do you sit Nate, who was in Bowkers situation last year?
My take is that you be patient. Injuries and trades can happen, and there’s a lot of season left. Bowker will get his shot.

"Don't trust anyone under the age of 30" - Brian Sabean

by Smotheredinhugs on Jul 1, 2009 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

there are a lot of things working against Bowker

- he’s left handed. So are Nate and Fred (and Travis). adding another left handed (especially in our yard) is a bit redundant and does make as much as sense as adding a right-handed one (another reason that Richie is still on the team). He doesn’t hit lefties as well as righties (though his historical stats aren’t bat against them.)

- though I have seen him this year, his defense at first was awful last year and while I think he’d be an adequate left fielder, we already have one of those.

- he has options. Nate and Fred and Travis don’t and we’re not getting rid of Winn. this is probably the biggest factor and unless we want to send Whiteside down, we’re not carrying 6 OFs again. Also, those guys ahead of him are doing alright, though not great.

- he mouthed off a bit about being in AAA. I’m not saying this is a big factor, but it can’t help unless the team interprets it as a guy just wanting to play and being frustrated and lets it go. Frandsen did the same thing and is in the same boat.

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 1, 2009 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Bowkers OF defense >>>>> Bowker 1st base defense. Also he has been playing more LF in Fresno lately (17 games in Lf vs 45 in RF this season considering he played Rf almost eh whole first month that is not bad). As always I deffer to one the true prospect hounds should they say other wise.

And moving Lewis would do nothing more than place Bowker into the Ort Cloud. Unfortunately it would mean one of the Vets ( Winn) needs to go even if it is basically for a song.

Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Fuggen Rox! You might want to try beating The Bums more than once in 10 games. Try it. You might find you like it.

by daveinexile on Jul 1, 2009 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well the fact that they’re trying him in left means that they’re thinking about it. I’m not afraid of him getting the Ort treatment, he seems to have proven himself in AAA. If he succeeds in limited AB’s he’ll get more. That said, I also get the sense that Winn is about to have a break out second half.

"Don't trust anyone under the age of 30" - Brian Sabean

by Smotheredinhugs on Jul 1, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Second halves are more classy than first halves.

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Jul 1, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not afraid of him getting the Ort treatment …

You have more far more faith in the Big Head than I. I envy that. All I can say is look at Nate play time. Until Lewis swing broke and he started making Rowand type fielding errors ( though with more often the ’08 Errent Throwin’ frequency) Nate’s playing time was basically doing one of the hardest jobs in baseball – Pinch hitter. And that kind of play time is not going to tell as an thing about whether Bowker can handle the play time of 4 days a week. And the Teams needs part of that answer going into the off season

Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Fuggen Rox! You might want to try beating The Bums more than once in 10 games. Try it. You might find you like it.

by daveinexile on Jul 1, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This whole “Ort treatment” phenomenon really needs to get a new name — unless it’s some weird code for almost handing a guy a major league starting job despite nothing in his background suggesting he’s worthy of it, in which case “the Bocock treatment” might be a preferable moniker.

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Jul 1, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Bocock Shafting Experience?

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.

by marcello on Jul 1, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you experienced?

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Jul 1, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

More like the Brass saying one thing (repeatedly) and than just icing the guy. I am hard pressure to name a kid besides Panda in the Bochy era this has not happened to. If you have a better name for it I’ll gladly use it. Considering most of our Vets in the Bochy era were not all that outstanding and many have trouble posting league average numbers this is maddingly frustrating to me.

The me Bocock Shafting is more rushing the guy up and watching him crash. Burriss this year got the Bocock Shafting Experience.

Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Fuggen Rox! You might want to try beating The Bums more than once in 10 games. Try it. You might find you like it.

by daveinexile on Jul 1, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

obviously Bocock was rushed but it wasn’t as if the Brass thought he was ready and rushed him expecting him to be good. They were just unprepared for an injury to both Omar and Frandsen, they had no other options (or so they felt) than to bring up Bocock until Omar was healthy. I really don’t think Bocock did anything other than what everybody expected and he knew it wasn’t a permanent situation. he was just a sacrificial lamb.

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 1, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I think they’ve been quite fair in their treatment of Ishikawa, and more than fair with Burriss. Lewis was given the opportunity due to injury (twice) but he established himself quickly enough that last year that wasn’t even a hint of a controversy over PT when Roberts returned. Bowker was given a very long opportunity last year before he was finally sent down to (quite successfully) work on his game. I certainly imagine Frandsen would have had a starting position in ‘08 had it not been for the injury. That’s a lot of counter examples.

I don’t personally think Schierholtz has been treated particularly poorly this year either, and certainly the only people who got shafted during the Ortmeier experience were Giants fans because he should not have been anywhere near a major league starting lineup.

I’m certainly no Bochy apologist, but in this case I have to say, I’m reminded of the classic Dusty Baker quote “I ain’t in the giving it away business; I’m in the earn it business.” That Dusty was massively self-deluded in that sentiment doesn’t make it any less appropriate.

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Jul 1, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Real nice point on Ishikawa.

 There was plenty of excuses for the Big Head to complealty pull the plug on him and he has not. I might have wished for more playing timeby this part of teh season for Ishi but he has not abandioned him when he easily could have.

Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Fuggen Rox! You might want to try beating The Bums more than once in 10 games. Try it. You might find you like it.

by daveinexile on Jul 1, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am from the "Earn It " school as well. But that applys to free agent Veterans as well in my mind. That is were I part ways with the Big Head.

Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Fuggen Rox! You might want to try beating The Bums more than once in 10 games. Try it. You might find you like it.

by daveinexile on Jul 1, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well I’m certainly with you there. Aurilia’s continuing presence is just a mystery and I’m doing my best to forget that Klesko was ever here.

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Jul 1, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not afraid of it because Randy Winn is on the last year of his contract. My point is that if he only gets limited at bats, he’ll have the spring and next year to prove himself.

"Don't trust anyone under the age of 30" - Brian Sabean

by Smotheredinhugs on Jul 1, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Must suck to be a guy named Mantle who can’t hit.

by Evan on Jul 1, 2009 5:23 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Mantle=Not impressed

Adopted father of Brian Bocock, Brad Boyer, Sharlon Schoop, Shane Jordan and Jeremiah Luster,Trey Webb and David Quinowski.

by RichH on Jul 1, 2009 7:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is he staying with your family?

Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005. And winner of the 2012 NL Fireman of the Year Award!

by Lyle on Jul 1, 2009 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, I have Quinowski now.

Mantle was here at the end of last season and while he appears to be athletic and have some tools I haven’t seen them come into play yet. Seems to hack at pitches and might need little help from Jobu. Defense has been adequate, nothing flashy. Big kid, haven’t seen any power yet.

Adopted father of Brian Bocock, Brad Boyer, Sharlon Schoop, Shane Jordan and Jeremiah Luster,Trey Webb and David Quinowski.

by RichH on Jul 1, 2009 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Has Quinowski mentioned anything about his injury and why it took so long to recover?

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by marcello on Jul 1, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Had Tommy John surgery September 07 and spent the offseason and all of 08 rehabbing. Don’t know the normal rehab time for that surgery but he did not rush and feels 100% now, no pain after pitching.

He’s here getting some hours in (unfortunately not while the team is in Canada due to passport issues) hoping to move sometime this month to a higher level depending of course on performance.

Adopted father of Brian Bocock, Brad Boyer, Sharlon Schoop, Shane Jordan and Jeremiah Luster,Trey Webb and David Quinowski.

by RichH on Jul 1, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s odd, was he misdiagnosed? He last pitched in June of 07, but didn’t have the surgery until September. But, since he had the surgery in September, that is a perfectly normal recovery.

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by marcello on Jul 1, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anybody have a scouting report on Evan Crawford? It would be nice to have a lead-off CF type that wasn’t, you know, Darren Ford.

Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005. And winner of the 2012 NL Fireman of the Year Award!

by Lyle on Jul 1, 2009 7:48 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

9 rounder - Evan Crawford, OF Indiana - $110,000 bonus
Former infielder Evan Crawford looked more comfortable as an outfielder in his junior season, but his athleticism still has yet to translate well to the diamond. He makes good use of his plus speed on the bases but not as much in the outfield. He has yet to fill out his 6-foot-2, 165-pound frame, doesn’t have much pop from the right side of the plate and doesn’t control the strike zone.

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 1, 2009 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I should totally adopt this guy.

by Evan on Jul 1, 2009 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm… CF, plus speed, no power, doesn’t control the strike zone.

Wow, this guy was born to be a Giant.

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Jul 1, 2009 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

is he gritty?

Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.

by Aadik on Jul 1, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So much for a lead-off CF who isn’t Darren Ford.

Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.

:-(

by Cookyman on Jul 1, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey brother....

What’s the latest on Buster? He hasn’t played since the HBP. Has anyone heard anything?

by slcgiant on Jul 1, 2009 7:57 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Still recovering. He might DH in a couple of days.

by xanthan on Jul 1, 2009 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They don’t think he has a concussion, but after Matheny (and since Buster is so important), they’re taking it slow with him.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 1, 2009 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like the part where they don’t think he has a concussion, but they haven’t run any tests on him. That’s some weird combination of conservative and lackadaisical in their medical treatment.

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Jul 1, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know, I was WTFing at that.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jul 1, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, as I understand it

There really isn’t any test for a concussion…

by FairweatherFan on Jul 1, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

When Downs was out with a concussion he told me that they run a test of cognitive function and won’t let you play again till you pass. The way he described the test I’m not sure I’d pass whether I’d been hit in the head or not.

Adopted father of Brian Bocock, Brad Boyer, Sharlon Schoop, Shane Jordan and Jeremiah Luster,Trey Webb and David Quinowski.

by RichH on Jul 1, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why do the Angels have Brandon Wood playing 1B?

by Fresburg on Jul 1, 2009 8:09 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Because they are fucking insane when it comes to their prospect management? No clue really, maybe they have a good reason. I just don’t get why he hasn’t gotten a legit shot yet.

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by marcello on Jul 1, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

b/c Mike Scioscia hates rookies.

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 1, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It looks like July 14-15 is the Eastern League allstar break. Thomas N and Buster P, go that photo ID? prepare yourselves for boarding a plane.

cheering for Adam Witter, who will hit bigleague dingers some day.
Still yelling "Go, Antoan"

by foothillsfan on Jul 1, 2009 8:55 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

John Bowker continues to treat AAA pitching like batting practice

Does anyone know of another player who has demonstrated such an abrupt positive change in their approach?

The guy has more BB’s than strikeouts over a significant sample size.

by FairweatherFan on Jul 1, 2009 9:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Bowkers March to the Sea?

Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Fuggen Rox! You might want to try beating The Bums more than once in 10 games. Try it. You might find you like it.

by daveinexile on Jul 1, 2009 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mentioned this before, but Jose Reyes did something similar in the majors. In the beginning of the 2006 season, the Mets signed Rickey Henderson as a special instructor, and had him talk to Reyes about plate discipline. After that Reyes announced that he’s no longer going to hack, but instead work the count and wait for his pitch. Then he just did it.

BB%:
Before 2006: 3.6%.
Since 2006: 8.9%.

BB/K:
Before 2006: 0.31.
Since 2006: 0.82.

OBP:
Before 2006: .303.
Since 2006: .355.

Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.

:-(

by Cookyman on Jul 1, 2009 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

we need to hire Rickey as an on base coach. Or Bonds. He’d probably preach something similar.

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 1, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You’d have to think it’s rare to have it not affect the other aspects of your hitting. Both Reyes and Bowker seem to have retained their other skills while improving their selectivity, but I don’t think it’s something you could teach on a broad scale.

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.

by marcello on Jul 1, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it would be better as building an approach within the organization. I don’t think slop hacky veteran guys like Molina or Rowand who probably would not go for it as much because they’re set in their ways (especially Bengie), but the young guys would probably take to it easier.

Imagine Bonds sitting down with Posey and Neal or Travis or Nate and going over hitting approaches and being selective and being patient and getting your pitch to drive. that would be awesome. He was the best there ever was at that and they could learn a lot from him.

it certainly would be better than the current “swing at everything” approach to hitting that the team seems to employ.

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 1, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe

but guys like that a lot of times can’t translate their ability into teaching someone else. Can’t be worse than what we have, though.

Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on Jul 1, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There was some clip posted a while back in which Bowker talked about how Bam-Bam Meulens had been drilling into his head the idea of waiting for your pitch.

by Evan on Jul 1, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn’t know Meulens was Bowker’s Little League coach

by wilriv21 on Jul 1, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have a feeling that Bonds would make a great hitting coach. he was an elite hitter and real student of the art and science of hitting, kinda like Ted Williams and Tony Gwynn. Of course, that assumes that the circus doesn’t come to town with him…but as a roving instructor it would be worth a shot.

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 1, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I imagine when the dust finally clears on the federal lawsuit and it is dismissed in a couple of years after the prosecutor’s appeal is denied and the interest in pursuing the case has evaporated that Barry will emerge as a roving hitting instructor or part-time big league hitting instructor of some sort. When you listen to his interviews, he seems to have the ability to articulate the art of hitting very well and given the continued positive reaction that SF fans have to him, he would be welcome. It will all depend on whether he develops the bug to get back into the game in some capacity.

by APGiantsFan on Jul 1, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d be excited if they gave it a try, I’m just curious what the effect would be on a organizational level.

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.

by marcello on Jul 1, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think a potentially huge part of it is if the player feels confident that the team is behind him

If the team tells a player “We want you to work on selectivity. We know that is going to cause you to struggle at first, and it may result in a initial drop in performance, and we are okay with that because it will make you better in the long run. We aren’t going to punish you if you go o-fer the next X AB’s as long as you are working on this approach”

On the other hand, in the dog eat dog world of pro baseball, if a guy trys a new approach and does not have immediate success, there is significant pressure to go back to what “works,” even if all that produces is mediocrity.

It’s important for the team to stand behind a player who is making a change, otherwise that player is likely to bail out and go back to their old ways if they struggle. Working on being more selective at the plate is certainly something that could cause some initial struggle – like a lot of called strike 3’s.

This is really the case in any employment situation, not just baseball.

by FairweatherFan on Jul 1, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Patience

It is nice to see that Bowker has developed some patience at the plate and continues to hit AAA pitching – he will eventually get another shot at the show – his fans just need to show the same patience. Giants outfiled is too full with okay but not outstanding outfielders. I wonder if EME is being kept on the East Coast as potential trading material – easier for most scouts from most teams to view him there or is he just stuck in AA. Nice to see Pucetas and Sosa both have strong outings. Kevin’s consistently shown the ability to have a relatively low ERA in whatever league he pitches – even if he doesn’t have lights out stuff – the kid knows how to pitch. Nice to see Angel get three hits – hopefully he keeps this up. :)

by APGiantsFan on Jul 1, 2009 10:21 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

EME has very little trade value. I think he’s there because he hadn’t earned a promotion yet based on a few partial seasons there and because like the logjam in SF, there’s a logjam in Fresno, especially now that they signed Borchard.

Also, other than Pill, he’s been Connecticut’s best hitter and they probably don’t want that team to run into too much trouble scoring runs for the young starters.

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 1, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We went to the Modesto Nuts game last night and watched the Giants kick butt. I was really impressed with the team. Neal and Villalona are monsters in their own right. Bocock and Ford are future everyday players for sure. Martinez looked great, he was pitching awesome. Had no control issues at all, looks like he is grabbing the tiger by the tale. Only thing I was bummed about was not being able to see Posey play. I wonder why he has been sitting for the past few days? All in all, Posey signed my son’s baseball and was willing to give autographs before and after the game. That was impressive.

Ron Wotus for Manager or Roberto Kelly.
Billy Ripken is still a douche bag.

by kbsofaraway08 on Jul 1, 2009 4:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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