Post-Game Recap: Zito Gets a Well-Deserved Win

by Grant on Jun 5, 2009 8:32 PM PDT Comment 164 comments

The best part of the game for me wasn't Sandoval's homer. It wasn't Zito's continued non-Zitoness, which is a return to his pre-Giants Zitosity. It wasn't Aaron Rowand's continued non-Rowandness, which is...well, you get the point.

Sergio Romo, baby. He's back.

The slider slid, the cutter cut, and Romo got through two innings of one-run ball, pumping his fist back to the dugout.

Brandon Medders and Justin Miller have done much, much, much better than we had any right to expect. As options in the back of the bullpen go, the Giants aren't in bad shape. In the meantime, Medders and Miller did fine impressions of late-inning guys. Thanks for that.

But: Romo.

We all have our favorites. Steve Reed used to be one of my favorites. What if, then, late-inning scientists developed a Steve Reed who could also get lefties out?

Romo.

Good win. Now is the time on McCovey Chronicles when we dance.

Now I just can't wait until we trade for a hitter.

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welcome back, romo.

by KINGofCRA5H on Jun 5, 2009 8:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I couldn't be prouder

Sergio has asked me to pass along his thanks for all the cards, letters, and expressions of concern during his recent illness.

Now back to striking out hitters!

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by Lyle on Jun 6, 2009 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL RIOS

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by rhys on Jun 5, 2009 8:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

the postgame guys keep going on about how great wilson is, apparently unaware that walking the bases loaded is BAD

by quincy0191 on Jun 5, 2009 8:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

not to mention his propensity for throwing straight fastballs at key junctures.

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by rhys on Jun 5, 2009 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

But I thought they’re the BEST ANNOUNCERS IN BASEBALL!

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.

by cheno on Jun 5, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

He means Bip and the other dude, right?

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by jponry on Jun 5, 2009 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep

Judgment Day is coming
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by Natto on Jun 5, 2009 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Too many postgames.

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.

by cheno on Jun 5, 2009 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Best Announcers in Baseball

in their price range

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by ThrillisGone22 on Jun 5, 2009 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

WIN

Anyone have the link to that audio? I stupidly forgot to bookmark it

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by bondslegend on Jun 5, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dump Wilson

the postgame guys keep going on about how great wilson is, apparently unaware that walking the bases loaded is BAD

No kidding. Wilson goes in with a chance to actually earn his save (1 run lead on the road) and he walks the bases full. Move that guy out of that role! One single and it’s a loss.

Romo, on the other hand, had wicked movement and great control. I would love to see that guy get a little more experience and take Wilson’s job. I wish it wouldn’t take 10 consecutive blown saves for Bochy to make a move like that.

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by achiappanza on Jun 5, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Some of the breaking pitches he threw tonight were nasty. And he can control them too! <3 Romo

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jun 5, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is the same manager who has penciled in Molina in the cleanup spot all year.

by SFGuy on Jun 5, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

would you prefer

Aurilia batting cleanup?

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by natteringnabob on Jun 5, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

it’s hard to fault him, because this team HAS no cleanup hitter. Who’s he supposed to hit there? Sandoval? Ishi? Uribe?

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by bondslegend on Jun 5, 2009 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sandoval would be OK

by SFGuy on Jun 5, 2009 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree

but I don’t think it’s THAT terrible that Molina is there. He’s in a funk now (which he may never come out of), but yeah. The team’s offense sucks either way.

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by bondslegend on Jun 5, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The thing is, in that context, it might actually make even more sense to keep them in the same roles. If Wilson is just the guy to come out in the 9th with bases empty, Romo is free to be the fireman out of the pen. Get in a jam in the 6th, 7th, or 8th? He’s your man. It’s the kind of situation where Bochy may wind up being wrong in persisting that wilson is the team’s best reliever so he needs to close, but it could actually lead to a good decision.

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by Smoke on the Water on Jun 5, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

this

your best reliever should NOT be your closer. But bochy is wrong both ways- he thinks wilson is the best, and that the best guy should be your closer. Fine by me. Wilson should not be in a game in any other situation.

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by bondslegend on Jun 5, 2009 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I understand your logic, but we’ve probably had more 9th inning jams than any other this season.

by SeeingStars on Jun 5, 2009 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Crucial time

I’m sticking with the study that says the best time to use your best reliever is at -1, 0, and +1 in the 9th. I guess it’s OK if Wilson gets the 2-6 run leads to preserve.

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by achiappanza on Jun 5, 2009 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Knee JERK Reaction

Seems like everyone is super down on Wilson now because of his struggles lately. It can be hard to support a guy who comes off as a douche, but Wilson had an awsome season last year working through base runner’s galore. Obviously he couldn’t keep stranding runners at that pace, and that has caught up with him. Their is nobody else on the roster that can do a better job, Wilson has been the best closer we’ve had since Nen. I’d to throw a young guy like Romo out their and see how he reacts.

by shaolinironlion on Jun 5, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Correction

I’d hate to throw

by shaolinironlion on Jun 5, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Brian Wilson is a classic closer. He has the attitude, the look, and the 100mph fastball. He also bounces back after he blows one. I don’t think too many Giants’ fans have a problem with him closing, they just have a problem with the aggravation he causes them. I think if you see a fan post about demoting him from closer it would get a lot less positive response than a post game thread where he has just scared the shit out of everybody. I think the Giants’ have the order pretty much correct right now, now that Romo has returned and Howry is hopefully out of the late game mix.

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by rxmeister on Jun 6, 2009 6:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

There’s logic, and then there’s game day threads.

by Merope on Jun 6, 2009 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

This

there is no one else I’d rather have as the closer, and, more critically, no where else I’d rather have Wilson in the bullpen.

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by bondslegend on Jun 6, 2009 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree with this sentiment, but I’d add he is not yet a great classic closer… he has the potential to be, certainly, but he allows too many baserunners to be that dominant guy that changes the other team’s psychology. I’m not sure if he’s one secondary pitch away from being that guy or if he just needs better command, but I think he’s still one step away from true dominance.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 6, 2009 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Also, the dickishness is not out of place at the closer spot…

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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 6, 2009 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think it’s the command moreso than the secondary pitch… how many times have we seen him start off an AB 1-2 or 0-2 only to throw 3-4 straight pitches nowhere near the zone (and nowhere near where anyone not named Molina would swing at them)? His fastball is probably good enough in most cases to get everyone out… but he needs to throw them in better locations.

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by jponry on Jun 6, 2009 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

like over the plate, f'rinstance?

I don’t get all the nibbling. And having no other pitch is a problem, certainly in a couple years when his pitch goes from 98 to 94 or 93.

And being better than Herges, Hermanson, Walker, Boonitez, and the rest of the post-Nen closers… that’s not exactly high praise. I’d rather have Wilson than any of those guys too, but when this team starts heading over .500 they’re going to need someone who can protect a one run lead.

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by natteringnabob on Jun 6, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

He’s not better than Worrell was in 2003, imo.

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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jun 6, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

This

by SFGuy on Jun 6, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't think he's anywhere near great

I’m just saying I don’t think there’s anywhere else I’d rather have him. He seems to be OK in the closer spot, and maybe a little more time will make him better. I don’t want him coming into the game in the 7th or 8th, I know that.

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by bondslegend on Jun 6, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

He has a lot of room for improvement for sure… but his ceiling is very high if he can harness his stuff – which will only come with experience if it comes at all.
If he had a credible second pitch and some idea of where the fastball is going, he would be truly dominant (which is true for a lot of guys I guess).
Would it be better for his problems to be physical or mental? Cause I got the feeling it’s between the ears and maturity will improve his performance, but it’s probably irrational exuberance about the 98mph heater.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 6, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like Sergio Romo

He gets strikeouts for the Giants.

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by Natto on Jun 5, 2009 8:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

SERGIO ROMO!!!!

I didn’t realize how much I missed him until he came back.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jun 5, 2009 8:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

No kidding, this may be the best Giants bullpen in quite some time even with Mr. 3-2.

by SeeingStars on Jun 5, 2009 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

They paved paradise, put up a parking lot

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by ThrillisGone22 on Jun 5, 2009 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

certainly the deepest bullpen the Giants have had in awhile. Even the middle relievers like Medders and Miller are better than the late inning pitchers this team has had the past few years.

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by rxmeister on Jun 5, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I see what you did there.

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by Lyle on Jun 6, 2009 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

On the right side

How do the site come up with the related fanposts/fanshots?? It’s like stuff a year old.

by SFGuy on Jun 5, 2009 8:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Just pinch and twist.

The tags, I mean.

Then it’s free.

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by Idaho Nick on Jun 6, 2009 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ouch!

I’d need most of Mark’s happy pills to withstand self-inflicted pain like that.

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by Lyle on Jun 8, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Zito’s ERA is down to 3.86.

Judgment Day is coming
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by Natto on Jun 5, 2009 8:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

That looks respectable

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by CB30 on Jun 5, 2009 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pre-pentium designations

Xanthan probably loves that

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by ThrillisGone22 on Jun 5, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm a believer

by SeeingStars on Jun 5, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

As long as it's a 386DX

I don’t want no brain-damaged 386SX that lacks an FPU.

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by antinous on Jun 5, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Massive geek fail

Er, I meant to say, “lacks a 32-bit bus.” That was the difference between the 386SX and the 386DX. The difference between the 486SX and the 486DX was the FPU. I am shamed^2.

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by antinous on Jun 5, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Holy shit you suck so bad

/doesn’t know what the hell youre talking about

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by bondslegend on Jun 5, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I will never be xanthan. :-(

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by antinous on Jun 5, 2009 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well

to be fair, he has a built-in advantage. When he talks computers, he’s speaking of his own kind.

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by bondslegend on Jun 5, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

we need the Bengie with the glove on his head gif

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 5, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

before this game, Giants team OPS+ was all the way up to 79 (it was as low as 72 earlier in the year)

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by jponry on Jun 5, 2009 8:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I think i’m having feelings of Romosexuality…

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by Andy from DC on Jun 5, 2009 8:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Its normal to expiriment

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by CB30 on Jun 5, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

wear batting gloves so you don’t catch anything.

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by rxmeister on Jun 5, 2009 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Eugenio Velez is safe. He can't catch anything.

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by Mayor of 311 on Jun 5, 2009 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

/thread over

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Zorakophilia?

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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 6, 2009 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Once or twice doesn’t make you queer.

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that rule only works for girls

Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.

by oldjacket on Jun 6, 2009 7:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

And isn’t limited to once or twice.

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by can of corn on Jun 6, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

hawt

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by groug on Jun 6, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

My gf says she doesn't like Romo because of how he wears hit hat

I’m helping her comes to terms with her Romophobia

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by jordanovich on Jun 6, 2009 2:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well she has a gripe.

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by WalrusMan on Jun 6, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tonight's Bochy report card

Good:
1. Finally learned from a mistake. Left Zito in the game too long in his last start, and this time he pulled him at the first sign of danger.
2. Returned Sergio Romo to an important role in the bullpen

Bad:
1. Rich Aurilia
2. Didn’t pull Bengie for a pinch runner in the eighth. The only player in baseball who wouldn’t have scored on Uribe’s double
3. Should have pulled Wilson and allowed Affeldt to face Jeremy Hermida. Stop having blind faith in a pitcher who doesn’t deserve it.

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by rxmeister on Jun 5, 2009 8:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Bochy didnt really piss me off at all today

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by CB30 on Jun 5, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Unfortunately...

we’re stuck with Aurilia if Renteria’s injury continues to linger. Hopefully Frandsen gets a second go.

by SeeingStars on Jun 5, 2009 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was glad he let Romo pitch two high-leverage innings, I was worried he’d bury him after the two cheap runs he gave up in his first game.

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by jponry on Jun 5, 2009 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey

Aurilia walked twice. He deserves to be in the starting lineup.

by SFGuy on Jun 5, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

get used to it. We’re seeing three straight lefty starters the rest of this series.

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by rxmeister on Jun 5, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Marlins have announced Sunday’s starter?

by SFGuy on Jun 5, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ricky Nolasco, back from the minors.

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by rxmeister on Jun 5, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ricky nLOLasco

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by bondslegend on Jun 5, 2009 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

If Rents wasn’t hurt Aurilia doesn’t start vs. the lefties.

by SFGuy on Jun 5, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Laughing at Mordy from Monsey

He hates Renteria, but the only player he hates more than him is Aurilia. Kind of ironic that Renteria’s injury gets Aurilia into the lineup.

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by rxmeister on Jun 6, 2009 6:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's like rain on your wedding day...

Leave it to the Giants to Mordy in that kind of position.

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by Lyle on Jun 6, 2009 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I thought Mordy only complains about Dusty Baker.

by SFGuy on Jun 6, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

BTW

Rx, you could tell Mordy who I am.

by SFGuy on Jun 6, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The best part

was Aaron Rowand running into something

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jun 5, 2009 8:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

You're just trying to get that animated .gif posted

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by ThrillisGone22 on Jun 5, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ha

Announced attendance – 12,841 (yes I know that’s paid)

by SFGuy on Jun 5, 2009 8:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Was anyone else screaming for a pinch runner when Bengie singled in the 8th? Apparently he is too slow to score from first on a two out double.

by Bond16 on Jun 5, 2009 8:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

He’s too slow to score from first on a two out triple.

by SFGuy on Jun 5, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Fixed

Apparently he is too slow to score from ~~first~~ third on a two out double.

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by ThrillisGone22 on Jun 5, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I said the same thing higher up. This team has to do whatever it takes to scratch out every run that it can. If that means pinch running for your cleanup hitter, you need to do it.

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by rxmeister on Jun 5, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know was double checking the inning before I posted.. haha. Your post went up just before.

by Bond16 on Jun 5, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1000000000000000000000000

I’m going to make you the new Ginats Vice President!

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by natteringnabob on Jun 5, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Who is this leadoff batter that hits .302 and what happened to Scott?

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Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right

by Giant among Angels on Jun 5, 2009 8:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

He’s still there, desperately trying to break back out. Did you see his last two at bats? Vintage Rowand.

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by rxmeister on Jun 5, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Did the Marlins have a lot of long at-bats against Zito tonight? Looking at his line score it is hard to believe he threw 95 pitches through 5.

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Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right

by Giant among Angels on Jun 5, 2009 8:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Sergio!

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 5, 2009 8:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Brian WTFilson

seriously. Stop that.

BUT 3 WINZ IN A ROW!!

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by bondslegend on Jun 5, 2009 8:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

When I first read 3 wins in a row, I reached for my computer keyboard thinking to say there is no way that is correct thinking we had one 2 in a row. Boy do those double header sweeps do wonders. (Especially with one in 5 innings.)

DOUBLE SWITCHES AND MATCH-UPS, THAT'S WHAT BRUCE BOCHY DOES!

by PAWarrior on Jun 5, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

IKR

w00t

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by bondslegend on Jun 5, 2009 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

So everyone. Pray for a one hour rain delay tomorrow. (BTW, no Extra Innings for Saturday’s game)

by SFGuy on Jun 5, 2009 8:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Dear Brian Wilson

PUT THAT COFFEE DOWN! No Glengarry leads for you no more.

Dear Botchy: if the “closer” has walked two batters, you might want to pull him before he walks a third. This translates to: if you have to warm up someone while the closer is pitching, he’s not a closer.

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by natteringnabob on Jun 5, 2009 9:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

BUT HE IS THE CLOSER HE PITCHES THE NINTH INNING

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by jponry on Jun 5, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

New Ginats Manager

Fait A. Compli

3rd base coach: Ray Sipsa Loquitor

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

card carrying Bochy Hatter

by natteringnabob on Jun 5, 2009 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Excellent 'GG GR' reference.

Of course, there is no such thing as a bad one.

“Put. That coffee. Down. Coffee…is for closers.” Papa Dubs needs to remember ABC.

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by Mayor of 311 on Jun 5, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

ABTS

A – Always
B – Be
T – Throwing
S – Strikes

You see this watch? This watch cost more than your car! Well, actually not since you get paid $480,000/year and are due for a big raise in your arb eligibility… BUT I DIGRESS.

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by zenbitz on Jun 5, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

"Where did you learn your traaaade?"

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Jun 5, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

We went from a manager that pulls relievers like cigarettes out of a box (Alou), to one that stays loyal to roles to a fault. Classic Brass overreaction. But I still, I defend the move by Bochy to leave him in, I’ll take Wilson with the bases loaded in the ninth over any other pitcher in the pen even if he did put those guys their, just because of his history of working out of it.

by shaolinironlion on Jun 5, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

you have a lot to look forward to

because Wilson creates more jam than Smuckers. He’s got to be good!

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

card carrying Bochy Hatter

by natteringnabob on Jun 5, 2009 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

But he has a mohawk!

by Bond16 on Jun 5, 2009 9:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

new to the cove

im new the the cove chronicles so first comment here
and zito deserves this so much i want to see him get 6 in a row now (if hes capible for it)

vote nate davis as holder of the 49ers future
message has been approved by the davis party and nate davis himself

by big beaner on Jun 5, 2009 9:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

*capable

vote nate davis as holder of the 49ers future
message has been approved by the davis party and nate davis himself

by big beaner on Jun 5, 2009 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

First post, and with a misspelling. You’ll fit in just fine here, beaner.

Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005. And winner of the 2012 NL Fireman of the Year Award!

by Lyle on Jun 6, 2009 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Welcome. He probably won’t get 6 in a row, but then again getting 6 in a row is hard for a pitcher anyway.

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"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Kevin Frandsen, come back!

by WalrusMan on Jun 6, 2009 2:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Welcome aboard.

My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

by Goofus on Jun 6, 2009 6:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wasn't Romo DFA'd late last year?

I remember being real worried someone would grab him, I also remember him being pissed off about it at the time…

How things have changed..

by Southpaw86 on Jun 5, 2009 10:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I’m pretty sure he wasn’t or else I woulda choked a bitch.

my cousin and i got noah lowry's autograph after he came out of a porta-potty. he was nice about it.

by hubert on Jun 5, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

It was all kind of a misunderstanding.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jun 5, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Accidental DFA!

It's my blarg! Quick Pitch

by can of corn on Jun 5, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

It has since become legend

The artist formerly known as Set-up man

by CB30 on Jun 5, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

HOLY FUCKING SHIT ROMO GOT DFAD?!?!?!??!

FUCKING DIE SABEAN!!?!!?

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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on Jun 5, 2009 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

He was through a misundestanding, but I think that Baggs cleared it up that he was never really exposed.

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"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Kevin Frandsen, come back!

by WalrusMan on Jun 6, 2009 2:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Stop taking the fun out of the accidental DFA!

It's my blarg! Quick Pitch

by can of corn on Jun 6, 2009 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lewis?

Off balance, lost his opposite field approach…….? I refuse to believe his ceiling caught up with him, but i could be wrong.

by shaolinironlion on Jun 5, 2009 10:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

It’s one game. He was 4 for his last 10 before this game.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jun 5, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

/jpon defends her boy

Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on Jun 5, 2009 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

PEDRO

whyyy oh why

by ryanmiles on Jun 5, 2009 11:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

If you’re talking about Feliz, I saw that 9th inning. The Phils win if he gets to the ball.

by SFGuy on Jun 5, 2009 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

precisely.

by ryanmiles on Jun 6, 2009 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pedro Feliz just wants Giants’ fans to hate him. He sucks for the Giants’ for a decade, goes to another team and wins a ring, and then makes errors to lose games to the Dodgers.

Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!

by rxmeister on Jun 6, 2009 6:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Brad Lidge is a trap. —Admiral Ackbar

by shanghaijim on Jun 5, 2009 11:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Saturday Night's Game

If you get Extra Innings via Directv, it WILL be available on channel 736 at 4PM PT/7PM ET joined in progress as CSN-BA will do (EI will be using this feed as the Marlins will not televise this game). I don’t know if In Demand (cable) will so you folks will need to check your TV.

by SFGuy on Jun 6, 2009 2:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Thanks for the heads up.

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right

by Giant among Angels on Jun 6, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm still glad..

I drafted Romo in my fantasy league (holds league)

Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!

by Azmanz on Jun 6, 2009 2:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

It wasn’t Zito’s continued non-Zitoness

Believing in Zito this season has been really hard. I feel like the more I commit to believing in him, the more likely he is to rip my guts out.

I’m nearly ready to say the the first two years with the Giants was actually the “non-Zitoness”.

My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman

by Goofus on Jun 6, 2009 7:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I gotta say

I’m not sure how long he has to keep it up before we believe. I’ve already started, in that I’m not expecting a disaster every time he steps on the mound. I’m expecting a loss, but only because he’s the one getting cain’d this year. He’s been REALLY good after his terrible start.

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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on Jun 6, 2009 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

oddly enough, Zito has been the Giants 3rd best starter. Strange, I know.

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. This is one of the only ways a 5' 10" father can have a 6' 10" son.

by Speedforthewin on Jun 6, 2009 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

ERA aside, his current numbers are remarkably similar to his 2007 ones. 2008 might have been a fluke, but he’s not a very good pitcher, and hasn’t been since 2002.

Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.

:-(

by Cookyman on Jun 6, 2009 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

but, if Zito were to finish the season with say, a 4.00 ERA, would you still believe he is a bad pitcher?

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by Speedforthewin on Jun 6, 2009 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don’t think Cookyman thinks he’s a bad pitcher…given his citing of 2007 (where he had a 98 ERA+, basically average) he probably think he’s an average pitcher.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jun 6, 2009 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think on the whole, the mccoven would be happy if zito was an average pitcher for the remainder of his contract.

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by Speedforthewin on Jun 6, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would

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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on Jun 6, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Happy? No. Accepting of it? Yes.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Jun 6, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I didn’t say he’s bad, only that he’s not very good. He’s OK, can give you ~200 IP of decent pitching, which is a nice thing to have. But I think he’s very unlikely to finish the season with an ERA of 4.

Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.

:-(

by Cookyman on Jun 6, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree, i’m just curious if opinions will change if he’s continues his current performance over a season

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Jun 6, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Peripheral-wise, his current performance is decent but, not great. A full season of a low ERA wouldn’t be enough for me to ignore his peripherals.

Zito has always been considered one of those exceptions who can consistentaly out-pitch their peripherals, since his career ERA has always been lower than his FIP. But I looked at the numbers, and it seems that from 2000 to 2006, all of Oakland’s pitchers were consistently having lower ERA’s than FIP’s, so it probably had a lot to do with Oakland’s defense and home park. Overall, between 2000 and 2006, Oakland pitchers had an ERA .27 points lower than their ERA. In the same time period, Zito had an ERA .61 points lower than his FIP. So his park/defense adjusted ERA was really only .34 points lower than his FIP.

If Zito’s ERA right now were .34 points lower than his FIP, it would be 4.38. That’s pretty much what I expect him to post.

Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.

:-(

by Cookyman on Jun 6, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I can’t allow myself to believe in him, since that would only send him flying back into the depths of crapitude. Instead, I’ll continue to be pleasantly surprised each time he doesn’t suck, while always expecting him to suck. It’s science.

It's my blarg! Quick Pitch

by can of corn on Jun 6, 2009 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

So the strength of the pessimism field is inversely proportional to the crapitude quotient?

Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.

by Johnny Disaster on Jun 6, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

also

keep your fingers crossed while the bus drives over the train tracks.

Now, rather than expecting him to get shelled every time, I just expect… nothing. All the while hoping that he doesn’t suck so bad over the rest of the year that his numbers end up equalling another season of Matt Morris.

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

card carrying Bochy Hatter

by natteringnabob on Jun 6, 2009 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

At this point

A Zito season with consistent ERA’s of 3.9-4.0 would be awesome in my mind. It doesn’t make Sabean any less of an idiot for signing that deal, but still.

Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.

by Aadik on Jun 6, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs