minor lines, 6/29/09
Highlights from the Giants' farm: (a) It's still June, so John Bowker's name appears here again, this time with a homer and a double while reaching base in all four plate appearances. Other highlights include (b) Jake Wald also homering while reaching base three times, (c) Matt Kinney allowing just one run in a complete-game victory, and (d) Eddy Martinez-Esteve reaching base four times. Also notable is Tim Alderson making a start, although it was one of his less effective starts of the season.
AAA: Fresno defeated Salt Lake 7-1
(after scoring five runs in first two innings)
Fresno: LF John Bowker: 3 for 3, HR, 2B, BB
Fresno: SS Jake Wald: 2 for 3, HR, BB, SO
Fresno: RHP Matt Kinney: 9.0 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 6 K
Bowker had another big game, hitting his 15th HR, legging out his 18th double, and reaching base in all four plate appearances. He has had 20 XBH this moth. Wald also homered, his 3rd HR, while reaching base three times.
Making his sixteenth start, Kinney had his best appearance of the year, pitching his first complete game of the year. He had not pitched more than 6.1 IP in any of his previous nine starts. He got hs ERA below 5.50. With no walks in his last two starts, he has raised K/BB ratio to an even 3.00.
AA: Connecticut defeated New Britain 6-3
Connecticut: 2B Brock Bond: 3 for 5, CS, E
Connecticut: RF Eddy Martinez-Esteve: 3 for 4, BB, GiDP
Connecticut: LF Ramon Castro: 2 for 4, 2B
Connecticut: RHP Tim Alderson: 5.0 IP, 7 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 0 K
Connecticut: RHP Waldis Joaquin: 2.0 IP, 2 H, 1 K
New Britain: RHP Carlos Gutierrez: 4.0 IP, 10 H, 5 R, 5 ER, 1 BB, 2 K
With three hits each, Bond and EME raised their team-leading AVGs to .323 and .316. Bond may be one of the leading hitters in the Eastern League, but he is not among its better basestealers with his 10/11 SB/CS line. Last year he had a 15/6 SB/CS line. Playing his third game of the season, the 29-year-old Castro contributed the Defenders' only XBH.
Alderson had perhaps his least impressive start of the season, allowing his opposing hitters a .375 OBP and striking out none. Still, he improved his W-L record to 4-0 and kept his K/BB ratio above 4.00. Joaquin allowed a couple hits, but his BAA remains below .200. Gutierrez, whom the Twins selected 27th overall a year ago, made his fifth start in the upper minors, allowing a season-high 10 H. After a 1.32 ERA in the Florida State League, his ERA is over 6.00 since his promotion.
A+: San Jose lost to Modesto 5-1
San Jose: DH Tyler Graham: 1 for 3, BB
San Jose: RF Roger Kieschnick: 0 for 3, HBP, 2 SO
San Jose: 2B Nick Noonan: 0 for 4, 3 SO
San Jose: LHP Paul Oseguera: 4.2 IP, 6 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 3 BB, 1 K--1 WP
Batting leadoff, Graham was the only Giant to reach base twice. Kieschnick had his hit streak snapped. After the oh-fer with the hat trick, Noonan now has more strikeouts than hits (60 H and 62 SO in 247 AB, .243 AVG). Buster Posey did not play again.
Oseguera's fourth start for San Jose was his shortest yet. His W-L record dropped to 0-3 as his ERA rose to 5.32.
A-: Augusta lost to Rome 2-1
Augusta: C Matt Klimas: 1 for 2, BB, SO
Augusta: LHP Aaron King: 7.0 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 2 K--1 HR, 1 HB, 1 PO
Klimas, whose bat has cooled in June with a sub-.600 OPS, was the only GreenJacket to reach base twice.
King had his longest start of the year, pitching not just six full innings for the first time this year but seven full innings. However, he still suffered the loss, dropping his W-L record to 3-5 through a dozen starts. In terms of BAA, June was his best month of the season. After allowing BAAs over .300 in both April and May, his June BAA was just .237.
ssA: Salem-Keizer lost to Vancouver 14-0
Salem-Keizer: 1B C.J. Ziegler: 0 for 2, 2 BB, E
Vancouver: RF Rashun Dixon: 2 for 4, 2B, BB
Salem-Keizer: RHP Jose Valdez: 3.1 IP, 3 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 4 BB, 2 K--2 WP
The Volcanoes managed just four hits, all singles; and Ziegler was their only hitter to reach base twice. Dixon, whom the Athletics gave a big over-slot bonus as their 10th round pick a year ago, reached base three times.
The box score would suggest that Valdez suffered some control issues in his second NWL start.
R: Giants defeated Athletics 10-9
(scoring seven runs in final two innings)
Scottsdale: 2B Julio Izturis: 3 for 6, SB
Scottsdale: 3B Chris Dominguez: 2 for 5, BB, SO
Scottsdale: CF Evan Crawford: 3 for 5
Scottsdale: RHP Aaron Davidson: 2.0+ IP, 6 H, 6 R, 6 ER, 3 BB, 2 K
Scottsdale: RHP Audy Santana: 2.2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 5 K
Among the five Giants who reached base three times each were Izturis, who raised his AVG to .462; Dominguez, the Giants' 3rd round pick playing in his second game; and Crawford, the Giants' 9th round pick playing in his first pro game.
In his second pro start, Davidson, signed as an undrafted free agent, was hit hard. He retired just six of the fifteen batters he faced. He was reliever by Santana, who played in the Cubs' organizaton a year ago. In his third game with the Giants he struck out five of the eleven batters he faced.
DSL: Giants lost to Royals 5-1
Dominican: DH Rey Duran: 1 for 3, SO
Dominican: LHP Luis Azocar: 3.0 IP, 2 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 4 BB, 2 K--1 HB, 1 WP, 1 PO
Duran (19.11 y.o.) managed to be just one of two Gigantes to reach base safely today. Azocar (22.9 y.o.) had perhaps his least effective relief appearance of the season, issuing four walks. His ERA is 2.76 after seven appearances.
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John Bowker. Enough said.
Eddy Martinez-Esteve continues to make his case.
Could Tim Alderson be part of a big trade?
by wilriv21 on Jun 29, 2009 11:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wonder When, Perhaps If, the Giants Will Move Bowker Up
Bowker has been tearing the cover out of the ball in Fresno but with Ishikawa improving at the plate and a crowded outfield there doesn’t seem to be much room for the guy.
I really liked what Bowker brought last year in the beginning of his stint. Hopefully, with the confidence he built in Fresno, he can make the most of another chance at the MLB Level
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by objesguy on Jun 29, 2009 11:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Bowker deserves a shot at this point but the trouble is that none of the Giants OF are playing poorly enough to warrant being DFA’d (which is what would need to happen.)
Perhaps a trade will make room.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What trade though? I don’t see the Giants trading Nate, and I don’t think Fred has any trade value.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 30, 2009 6:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then we’re stuck with 3 LH corner OF.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 30, 2009 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like we are not in that boat already?
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on Jun 30, 2009 7:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Winn’s a switch hitter, with pretty even career splits. He’s had extreme splits this year, but that has to be SSS.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 30, 2009 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes it could be SSS. It could be just bad season from one side of the plate. It could that his birth sign in the House of Sever Cluster Fuggen. The point is if we are looking at this near term it affects use in 3 ways.
1) He is not hitting from that side and the season is getting shorter. If he does not start showing signs soon the team I basically having a second pitcher hit when they send him up in those situations.
2) He looks to qualify as a Type A free agent. If he does not snap out of this soon he would appear to most outsiders to be a player ageing into a platoon & defensive replacement role. Not many teams are going to willing part with their first round pick for that. And not many teams in the top 15 picks would be interested in a a platoon & defensive replacement.
3) It might help this team to see this season if Bowkermania can keep making adjustments enough to really merit holding hold a corner infield job. I reduces the "to do list" for 2010 and forward. Because of Big Head religious grounds of doing anything like the Goofus Principle™ if he can at all avoid it that playing time will not come with Winn and Rowand on this team with this manager.
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Fuggen Rox! You might want to try beating The Bums more than once in 10 games. Try it. You might find you like it.
by daveinexile on Jun 30, 2009 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m fine with trading Winn, I’m just saying that we’d still have a problem. It’s not going to happen anyway, Sabean never sells at the deadline – he either buys or does nothing.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 30, 2009 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
.. or deoes nothing.
How sad is this? That pharse still makes me happy. I remember the times he could not be counted on to do nothing!
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Fuggen Rox! You might want to try beating The Bums more than once in 10 games. Try it. You might find you like it.
by daveinexile on Jun 30, 2009 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correction.
Above i said Winn is on track to be a Type A. According to this ( on page 14 )he is the highest type B Outfielder.
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Fuggen Rox! You might want to try beating The Bums more than once in 10 games. Try it. You might find you like it.
by daveinexile on Jun 30, 2009 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that might be good news, means we can offer him arb and other teams wont be scared off
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Jun 30, 2009 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would be in my eyes. But he is out of Type A by like less than a full point. for reasons said above if he gets Type A i think we aren’t getting any picks for him so it would be what ever we can get this month to recharge teh farm with.
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Fuggen Rox! You might want to try beating The Bums more than once in 10 games. Try it. You might find you like it.
by daveinexile on Jun 30, 2009 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t see the Giants offering him arbitration anyway.
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 30, 2009 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Across the league
I think arbitration will be really interesting this year. After teams being really tentative to spend money last off-season, we might see teams exercise more caution when offering arbitration this time around.
Seriously, has anyone seen my adopted brother?
by j14 on Jun 30, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
right. he might accept!
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 30, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really think he would be the best choice for the team’s plans. And I have been, historically, a Winn backer.
As for Lewis: A young team controlled bat that can get on base. Yes, there are teams that would be interested in that. Place him in small yard and some of his almost-spectacular -plays -that clank would disappear. ( See Ibanez in Philly for recent example of this)
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on Jun 30, 2009 7:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somebody will take him off our hands. By the end of July, Bowker will be in the lineup and Lewis or Schierholtz will be somewhere else.
by Evan on Jun 30, 2009 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don’t think Nate leaves. That 9 for 24 in pinch hitting is ussaly the kind of bat Sabean scources the leagues for when he thinks his team is going to make a run.
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Fuggen Rox! You might want to try beating The Bums more than once in 10 games. Try it. You might find you like it.
by daveinexile on Jun 30, 2009 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see the Giants trade Nate. He’s the flavor of the month right now, but before that it seemed clear that the org had no interest in him.
by Evan on Jun 30, 2009 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Giants don’t seem to be fond of the sell high strategy, do they?
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 30, 2009 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Giants don’t seem to be fondof the sell highstrategy, do they?
Fixed
My adopted son Matt Downs . Ranked as the 24th best prospect in the Giants farm system by Baseball America !!
by nvsfg on Jun 30, 2009 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Giantsdon’tseem to befond of the sellhighstrategy
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Jun 30, 2009 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Giants don’t seem to be fond of the sell high strategy
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Fuggen Rox! You might want to try beating The Bums more than once in 10 games. Try it. You might find you like it.
by daveinexile on Jun 30, 2009 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ooh! I've got one!
The Giants don’t seem to be fond of the sell high strategy.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
by rotorueter on Jun 30, 2009 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey guys!
If you cross out some of the words in that sentence, it totally reads “The Giants seem to be high”!!!
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.
by EliminateMe on Jun 30, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re going to have to provide an example to prove that to my satisfaction.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
by groug on Jun 30, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously
What ARE you going to do when Bowkermania comes for you? Brother.
by Rorsavelt on Jun 30, 2009 2:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm Coming For You Brother !!
My adopted son Matt Downs . Ranked as the 24th best prospect in the Giants farm system by Baseball America !!
by nvsfg on Jun 30, 2009 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 30, 2009 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
by shikantaza on Jun 30, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
King's periphs make me sad D:
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
by baetown415 on Jun 30, 2009 3:08 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Dominguez, baby.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
by rotorueter on Jun 30, 2009 6:44 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
EME
My boy needs to be promoted. He is now up to .341/.400/.516 away from Dodd.
by malarky on Jun 30, 2009 8:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
it is kinda getting ridiculous, but Fresno already has a pretty bad outfield with Bowker and Velez (and Copeland) running around out there every night. Adding EME to the mix wouldn’t help things there. Of course, he could DH, but Joe Borchard is currently holding down those duties.
I guess my point is that offense probably isn’t the main reason EME isn’t being promoted. it’s his defense…and the logjam in Fresno.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 30, 2009 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tyler Graham
He makes things happen.
I like cats. Wings is the greatest show of all time.
by Norm Median on Jun 30, 2009 9:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Pablo
wow, for the month of June, Pablo Sandoval has a wOBA of .499, the highest of any NL player (Pujols .478 is next highest).
vr, Xei
by Xeifrank on Jun 30, 2009 9:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No one can stop Bowkermania, brother!
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
by shikantaza on Jun 30, 2009 10:36 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
except Fred Lewis.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 30, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Promotions/slumps
Isn’t it time for some promotions – Neal to Conn.; EME to Fresno – enough time already on the East Coast for the new Mayor of Norwich and retirement for one or two of the AAA outfielders – I mean is Borchard really the answer to anything and is Velez going to do anything except frustrate? A couple of these AAA pitchers should be moved out also – Hammond, Ortiz? Move up MadBum and Brohius – make it interesting.
Nick and Angel are both in terrible slumps – another 0 for 4 for Angel yesterday – both are young and I suppose this is all a part of the growing and learning process. Nice to see Chris get a couple hits – hopefully they sign Joseph and Wheeler soon.
by APGiantsFan on Jun 30, 2009 12:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ah yes, the daily “promotions needed” comment. Actually, now would be a poor time to promote Neal. I wouldn’t expected to see him promoted so shortly before the double-A all-star break. And I really think that promoting Bumgarner to the PCL would be a bad idea. What’s he going to learn in the PCL that he’s not going to learn in the Eastern League, excepts perhaps how good veterans hitters in hitter-friendly environments to me. Promoting Bumgarner to the PCL would strike me as a move with little upside and lots of downside.
by steve S on Jul 1, 2009 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting comment about Bumgarner. Is your opposition to promoting Bumgarner to AAA based on timing or do you wish Bumgarner never pitches in PCL?
by wilriv21 on Jul 1, 2009 1:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what's that sniffle...
It MIGHT be a case of the Bowkermania commin’ on.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on Jun 30, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could that be the JB1N1 Flu ?
My adopted son Matt Downs . Ranked as the 24th best prospect in the Giants farm system by Baseball America !!
by nvsfg on Jun 30, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very nice.
Sergio Romo: striking out professional hitters since 2005. And winner of the 2012 NL Fireman of the Year Award!
by Lyle on Jun 30, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
an OPS > .900?
wow… bring the guy up already!
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
by shikantaza on Jun 30, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
but Fred Lewis gets to the ball!
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 30, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to Minor League Splits
MLE for Bowker is 299/379/502
And minor league splits tends to give more pessimistic projections
waiting for 2011....
by Osama91w9 on Jun 30, 2009 12:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Is that the tool thingy? If you translate them from his player page they are .300/.378/.481
by xanthan on Jun 30, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That line is fine with me
I think I pulled my swagger muscle...
by BawLa on Jun 30, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, well in that case he’s worthless! :)
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
by rotorueter on Jun 30, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I WAS JUST WONDERING WHERE HE GOT THE MLE FROM, JEEZ ROTORUETER
by xanthan on Jun 30, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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