Post-Game Recap: Tim Lincecum is Good
by Grant on Jun 29, 2009 7:36 PM PDT
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Is there anything better than watching Tim Lincecum pitch to Albert Pujols? Yes. Tim Lincecum pitching to Albert Pujols with a nine-run lead in the seventh inning, sitting at, like, 20 pitches for the game. Hit it a mile, Pujols. In blowout-mode, I'll just enjoy the show.
And am I allowed to be righteous about an opposing superstar watching a non-homer? What's the statute of limitations on that? *checks with arbitration panel* Oh, never? I can never get indignant about that again?
Yeah, that's about right.
Also of note: Tim Lincecum pitching the best game of his career. On a warm summer night, 25 years ago, Greg Maddux and Pedro Martinez shared a bottle of chablis, a room at a Best Western, and a secret that survived until tonight. A complete game two-hitter in less than 100 pitches? Good gravy. What a gem.
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Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
by Azmanz on Jun 29, 2009 7:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
#3
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
by Azmanz on Jun 29, 2009 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At best?
Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NL WEST
top 3 teams in run differential
by superk1ng on Jun 29, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
MORE LIKE NL WORST
Status: So pissed that the Giants sold my wall of Ks to Johnsonville Sausages, that I'm boycotting purchasing anything at the park, or patronizing their sponsors.
by GiantBrass on Jun 29, 2009 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We'll get there someday.
Status: So pissed that the Giants sold my wall of Ks to Johnsonville Sausages, that I'm boycotting purchasing anything at the park, or patronizing their sponsors.
by GiantBrass on Jun 29, 2009 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
6.5 games...
Closing in on the soon to be cold Dodgers…
by bondo on Jun 29, 2009 7:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Timmy is awesome
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
by tobias on Jun 29, 2009 7:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
he kid is all right.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
by jcb9 on Jun 29, 2009 7:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He gives me a happy.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2009 7:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
As long he doesn’t give you a something else.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Half a chub is half of a real possibility here.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2009 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this kid is going to end up being a pretty good pitcher.
Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2009 7:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I love him
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 7:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
On a warm summer night, 25 years ago, Greg Maddux and Pedro Martinez shared a bottle of chablis, a room at a Best Western, and a secret that survived until tonight.
Creepy, yet hilarious. Goofusesque might be the right adjective.
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
by oldjacket on Jun 29, 2009 7:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Stupid mlb audio cut off my post game show and knbr isn’t streaming it yet.
by paboperfecto on Jun 29, 2009 7:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow-- THANK you. I didn't know that. That's great to know. Gracias.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Jun 29, 2009 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is indeed great news
Very handy to know
Judgment Day is coming
comics | art | Nattowear
by Natto on Jun 29, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tonight isn’t up yet but on the main page you could get Saturday and Sunday.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and click the subscribe link and you’ll get all the post game shows.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But this would mean teck is our friend?
/ confused
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on Jun 30, 2009 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
More thanks for that pointer.
MLB.com is always iffy for including the wrap in the archived Gameday audio, so this is really really handy.
by 2X2L on Jun 30, 2009 5:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mine is still going. I’ve noticed that when you click the link that’s right on the Gameday page (upper right), that seems to stay running longer than when you go through Gameday Audio.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
by tobias on Jun 29, 2009 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
PRESENT!
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Jun 29, 2009 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
YOU WIN THIS ROUND XANTHAN
Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
by Zetsuboushita on Jun 29, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone once videotaped Tim Lincecum getting pissed off. It was called Walker: Texas Chain Saw Massacre
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 7:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Fun Fact
Pablo Sandoval is only 7 months older than Buster Posey.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 29, 2009 7:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Awesome Fact
by FairweatherFan on Jun 29, 2009 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fun Fact
Pablo Sandoval is 5 days older than my sister.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
by jcb9 on Jun 29, 2009 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Walrus Man would consider that a cougar.
by Grant on Jun 29, 2009 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How did this meme start?
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 29, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably from WalrusMan’s numerous trips to Pitcairn Island.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
by jcb9 on Jun 29, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have no idea. But it annoys him, and that’s all I need to know.
by Grant on Jun 29, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m considering turning jponry, um, getting excited into a meme.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 29, 2009 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's disgusting.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never stopped me before.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 29, 2009 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess
I can already see your balls, so it can’t get much worse.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.
by marcello on Jun 29, 2009 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boy with Balls on chin
/Insert picture of Butters with prosthetic balls on chin
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Jun 29, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This makes me lol and lol
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
by Aadik on Jun 29, 2009 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol Walrusman is a pedophile
meme compleat
Supporting San Francisco Dugout since 2005 and Manny Burriss since 2006, and bringing you all your California League needs since 2009.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 29, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just because I’m not here as much to defend myself doesn’t mean you have to keep on spreading it.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Kevin Frandsen, come back!
by WalrusMan on Jun 30, 2009 2:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s absolutely what it means
GROUGTHINK ALERT
by groug on Jun 30, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The case against him is public record. It’s a miracle he was acquitted.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bone Hard Medical Fact
Pablo Sandoval is fucking awesome.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol bone hard
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
by rotorueter on Jun 30, 2009 7:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is just amazing
I ran home to catch the last two innings. Can I say again how glad I am he’s a Giant?
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
by Aadik on Jun 29, 2009 7:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Andres Torres? Me too!
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Jun 29, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gravy is good
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Jun 29, 2009 7:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Mmmmmm...
Gravy…
Status: So pissed that the Giants sold my wall of Ks to Johnsonville Sausages, that I'm boycotting purchasing anything at the park, or patronizing their sponsors.
by GiantBrass on Jun 29, 2009 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gravy and biscuits is good!
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on Jun 29, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The grass is always greener on the other side, unless Tim Lincecum has been there. In that case the grass is most likely soaked in blood and tears.
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 7:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Tim Lincecum doesn't always drink beer;
But when he does…
by FairweatherFan on Jun 29, 2009 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
stay thirsty, my friend
Krazy Krab despised in the 20th century and beloved in the 21st century. Hey it only took over 20 years, so don't give up hope.
by timmeh on Jun 30, 2009 1:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He once got into a base-loaded situation, just to see how it feels.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Jun 30, 2009 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, I just made this my FB status
You think your a fan? You got nothing on my adopted daughter Sue Burns, now she's a fan. 4 out of 5 doctors agree Rosterbation can cause blindness and delusions of grandeur.
by igotnothing on Jun 30, 2009 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The two SF athletes worthy of the Chuck Norris treatment:
Timmy and Bamm Bamm (Patrick Willis)
I’m glad things are finally turning around for our teams.
by snafu on Jun 29, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d buy him a Choco Taco
Matt Cain's right hand beats a Royal Flush.
by Viva Gigantes on Jun 29, 2009 7:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I still want to know where I could buy this stuff.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Balco makes it. Devine!
Matt Cain's right hand beats a Royal Flush.
by Viva Gigantes on Jun 29, 2009 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are out there, just gotta look
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Jun 29, 2009 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn’t like every store have these?
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Jun 29, 2009 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, sometimes you can find them at Blockbuster
they also have them in the snack bar at the Exploratorium
The San Francisco Giants: Where old men go to die.
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jun 29, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Exploratorium again shows me why it’s possibly the greatest place on earth.
by Classy_Argonaut on Jun 29, 2009 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You unbelievably huge douche.
Now I’m going to want Choco Tacos all damn night.
Proud adoptive parent of Billy "Duke" Neukom. He's got balls of steel.
by Gabafnerhagen on Jun 29, 2009 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good thing we have sites like BtB to tell all us, the unwashed masses, about how the Giants are actually worse than the Nats.
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
by shikantaza on Jun 29, 2009 7:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
oh christ
this annoys me. You think BTB has some kind of built-in bias? They’re looking at the data, and it suggests the Giants have been very lucky. Pretending otherwise is idiotic.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
by Aadik on Jun 29, 2009 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it’s run by people who don’t even watch the game. Everything is stats, stats and more stats.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you really can't be one of the flat-earthers, can you?
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
by Aadik on Jun 29, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
With BtB, he does seem to be right.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Jun 29, 2009 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he was joking.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.
by marcello on Jun 29, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To rank the Giants so low, they don’t watch the game and judge everything based on stats. You have to watch it.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, you weren’t joking? Or is this epic level sarcasm?
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.
by marcello on Jun 29, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not joking. To judge everything based 100& on stats is wrong. These people don’t watch the games.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh shush
by FairweatherFan on Jun 29, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
These people don’t watch the games.
Oh, shut the hell up. I wrote for BtB briefly and it’s a great group of baseball fans. They not only watch baseball, they really, really like it!
by xanthan on Jun 29, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course they do
That’s the stupidest thing you could possibly say. Congrats.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.
by marcello on Jun 29, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It doesn’t seem like they do if they judge the Giants so low. If I’m wrong, I apologize.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look, the point of the project is as such:
Take every team in major league baseball. Pretend they’re in one division. Use their component stats and a league adjustment to determine how many runs they would score and allow if they were in one big division. That gives you your power rankings.
Is it a flawless methodology? I don’t think so. Is it gospel? No. Is it interesting? Sure. And as happy as I am with the Giants this year, there’s no question they’ve played over their heads in terms of W-L (I don’t think they’ve done so quite as drastically as the BTB Power Rankings say, but you know.)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
All the other “power rankings” I’ve seen has them at 8-10.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, yeah, based purely on W-L record, that’s a pretty fair place to put them. BTB is trying to go beyond that and look at how teams would do hypothetically, in an even playing field.
Like I said: is it perfect? I don’t think so. But they don’t have a vendetta against us or anything.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, all of you know what I think of it.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, and that’s fair enough, but it’s not fair to say things like “Oh, they don’t watch the games!” or “Omg they hate the Giantz!!!”
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kruk’s power rankings don’t count.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 29, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well any team
who has a very good starting rotation and excellent bullpen play is going to win games…
She Hate Me
by cloudydays on Jun 29, 2009 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's a thought exercise
Do you think people who spend so much time talking about baseball that they write about it for multiple sites WOULDN’T watch games? If they just wanted to play with numbers, they wouldn’t need the game of baseball to do that.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.
by marcello on Jun 29, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love McCC, but I’ve never seen so many people ready to overreact to a simple, inoffensive comment. Geez, relax a bit
Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
McCC = McClain Chronicles
by Useful_Idiot on Jun 30, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you think it’s inoffensive, you missed it. The not watching games comment is old and tired and really fucking condescending.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.
by marcello on Jul 1, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sure Sky Kalkman watches games (I think he’s a Reds fan?) But you’re misinterpreting the point of the thing they’re doing.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sky Kalkman is actually an underground computer buried 3 miles beneath the earth’s crust.
by xanthan on Jun 29, 2009 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/watches 18 GB of porn on Sky Kalkman in one lonely night
by Grant on Jun 29, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somewhere, Sky just shuddered.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.
by marcello on Jun 29, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, a relative of yours?
Judgment Day is coming
comics | art | Nattowear
by Natto on Jun 29, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
While I don’t deny the usefulness of statistical analysis, your attitude of infallibility makes me want to join the flat earth society.
Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
McCC = McClain Chronicles
by Useful_Idiot on Jun 30, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think what it suggests
Is that any model becomes questionable at the extremes. The Nationals are so epically bad that I think their performance is operating in the nonsensical edge of the model.
by FairweatherFan on Jun 29, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand that
I just like to joke about it
by superk1ng on Jun 29, 2009 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
by shikantaza on Jun 29, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They need to look at moar stats then!
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
by shikantaza on Jun 29, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just kind of like saying “WORST TEAM IN BASEBALL IMO”, I understand their methodology and I accept it.
I also think it’d be more useful to take the actual performance into account a bit though.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But the Giants suck that one year in the ’90s!
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Jun 29, 2009 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looking forward, you absolutely do. Our wins are banked, regardless of how we got them. No backsies.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.
by marcello on Jun 29, 2009 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, exactly
I get what the point of the project is (to put all the teams into one big pot and decide how good they are based on component stats), but I just don’t know how useful it really is if you completely what actually happened. The projected standings are far better in that regard.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know that their method is the best method out there, I have no clue what is, but I don’t think it’s without merit. It’s certainly not gospel though.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.
by marcello on Jun 29, 2009 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I think it’s an interesting exercise but not necessarily predictive.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Problem is that 90% of the people criticizing it never actually bothered to find out what the method is.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 29, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s true. At this point though, as the Giants keep playing well, it’s just fun to say “Worst team in baseball imo” after every win. YMMV.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't really looked at their methodology
So I can’t comment one way or the other, but I generally tend to trust math.
by FairweatherFan on Jun 29, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I tend to trust math too, but it was like two weeks ago when the Nationals were supposed to be better than the Giants. That absolutely killed any credibility those rankings were supposed to have, because there’s no way it was true.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
by groug on Jun 29, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, like I said
I would suspect that the epic fail of the nationals bullpen broke their model. All of these linear projection type things depend on results lingering around the mean.
by FairweatherFan on Jun 29, 2009 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Giants are Nats are like bizzaro opposites. One team with great hitting but league worst pitching. The other with great pitching but league worst hitting.
by xanthan on Jun 29, 2009 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Together
THEY WOULD RULE THE WORLD
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or really suck
by FairweatherFan on Jun 29, 2009 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be epic.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Jun 29, 2009 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not like anyone would notice if we just absorbed the Nats...
Yoink!
Status: So pissed that the Giants sold my wall of Ks to Johnsonville Sausages, that I'm boycotting purchasing anything at the park, or patronizing their sponsors.
by GiantBrass on Jun 29, 2009 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nats don’t really have great hitting.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 29, 2009 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they did, at the time. They’ve gotten worse since then.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are 6th in the NL in wOBA right now. I think the last time I looked they were a top-3 team.
by xanthan on Jun 29, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
team OPS+ is down to 98
not that that really matters w/ the way BTB is doing their thang.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, they were doing better a month or so ago when I last checked. Still, a near average offense is pretty good.
by xanthan on Jun 29, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giants’ pitching + average offense = teh sex
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Jun 29, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends how you define “great”, I guess.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 29, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't looked up the stats
but I bet they have a really shitty defense too, especially in the OF
by superk1ng on Jun 29, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that’s responsible for a decent amount of the shitty pitching.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last in the majors in UZR.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 29, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OMG WHY DIDNT GIANTS BRAZZS SIGN HIM?! HE HITS DINGERZZZ!
by Hobbes2d on Jun 30, 2009 1:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For the record, I got that you were at least partially joking about it. I think some people bandwagoned on that not realizing.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.
by marcello on Jun 29, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly, I'm not that interested
I’m sure there’s a basis for what they’re doing, but I’m not sure why making fun of the fact that their system wasn’t terribly predictive with respect to the Giants is bad. I mean, I give regular experts crap when they make bad predictions; I’m not down with people who hold themselves out as experts + numbers hiding behind the model. If the model gets you crappy results, then the model has problems. I do not think it should be off limits to tease when the model fails, and I think it’s a copout for the designer to just say “the model predicts what the model predicts.” if it does not desribe my reality in some useful way, then I don’t have much use for it.
All that being said, of course statistical analysis is good for baseball. I’m just going to call out those foolios if they design a system that wrongly calls my team the worst.
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
by shikantaza on Jun 29, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
See
I don’t know if they’re necessarily trying to say it’s predictive. It seems like more of an attempt to put all the teams on the same playing field (aka out of their divisions) and see what would, hypothetically, happen.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
See, here's my issue
This is impossible. How do you use stats (any stats, even component stats) that are happening in reality to show what would happen in some hypothetical even playing field? The component stats weren’t made on this even playing field.
I’m probably just missing something, here. But that’s what I think at this current juncture in time.
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
by thehavenot on Jun 29, 2009 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would tend to agree, but I still think it’s a valiant, if somewhat flawed, effort.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Beyond the Box Score power rankings are my Baseball Boogie. I have never looked at them and never will.
by Evan on Jun 29, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
high five
I still haven’t watched the Baseball Boogie either.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re missing out on a lot of satin jackets.
by xanthan on Jun 29, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah I know, that’s what I meant … I have watched it. And my life is richer for it.
by Evan on Jun 29, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How could you miss out on this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nXl93ji30M
Judgment Day is coming
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by Natto on Jun 29, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I WILL NOT
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's Flashbeagle, Charlie Brown
GROUGTHINK ALERT
by groug on Jun 29, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
(It’s not really Baseball Boogie)
Judgment Day is coming
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by Natto on Jun 29, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/kidnaps jponry, ties her to a chair, tapes her eyes open and puts on Baseball Boogie.
…this is kind of creepy.
But I’ma keep it!
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
by thehavenot on Jun 29, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So….that’s what you’re doing Friday night!
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by WalrusMan on Jun 30, 2009 2:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure I see a meaningful difference
Their model declares the Giants worse than the Nats. That’s clearly wrong. What’s the point if it doesn’t yield something useful?
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
by shikantaza on Jun 29, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s not true anymore.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still mad!
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
by shikantaza on Jun 29, 2009 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, they are saying it’s kind of predictive, as they put out Predicted Standings as well.
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by WalrusMan on Jun 30, 2009 2:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but those at least take into account the actual W-L record so far this year, as far as I can tell.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 30, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, but then they make predictions based off of the evaluation system. It’s mixed signal to say the least.
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
by oldjacket on Jun 30, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure why making fun of the fact that their system wasn’t terribly predictive with respect to the Giants is bad
The system was never meant to predict anything. Anyone who actually bothered to read what they wrote would know that.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 29, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reading is tough. I just want to react to things.
by xanthan on Jun 29, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's the point of a model that doesn't predict?
Even if the prediction is with respect to a hypothetical (eg, one big league)?
What’s the point of baseball rankings that don’t actually rank?
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
by shikantaza on Jun 29, 2009 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To see who the “actual” best teams in baseball are, hypothetically, without the oddities that unbalanced schedules produce.
It doesn’t mean anything IRL but it’s for fun.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally
I see that. My point is that a ranking system that would place the Giants below the Nats when it did has some flaws, even if it’s saying what would happen under hypothetical conditions.
Seriously though, I’m glad my snark generated some discussion, but I don’t mean to overblow the point. One bad result does not a horrible model make! I’m sure what they do has value.
BUT THEY CALLED MY TEAM THE WORST!
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
by shikantaza on Jun 29, 2009 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are so many adjustments, it seems like each tweak futzes the outcome by 5%….
“Okay, we’ll start with the basic idea that every NL team is 500% worse than AL teams. Good? Okay, let’s move on…”
by Grant on Jun 29, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The thing is
The league differential is at least 5 wins, and maybe 10. We can pretend its not, but all the evidence we have suggests this is the case. Toronto is one of the best teams in baseball, but players in the most brutal division around.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
by Aadik on Jun 29, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, except the Giants smoked the interleague series.
by FairweatherFan on Jun 29, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
cmon man, there's basic sample size issues
The AL has over the last 2-3 years performed at a pretty good clip; I think its something like a .580 win pct (I’m pulling this from memory). That’s significant and a large enough sample.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
by Aadik on Jun 29, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know dude, I'm on your side
Remember ?
by FairweatherFan on Jun 29, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
SSS. AL has won something like 9 out of the last 10 interleagues. Past 5 years the AL has a ~.580 winning percentage against the NL. That’s pretty significant.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 29, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
I don’t know. Also DH would obviously help the other league, so if you are just using Run Differential…
=/
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by GiantBrass on Jun 29, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
why?
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
by Aadik on Jun 29, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's been argued
That because AL teams carry a DH, they have the advantage in AL home games. Makes some sense as NL teams don’t have guys like Ortiz just sitting around on the bench.
by FairweatherFan on Jun 29, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But
Most AL Teams don’t have someone like David Ortiz DHing.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
right
but Most NL teams have the 4th OF DH’ing
It would be interesting to look at it, altho I think it’s been done.
Average wOBA of AL DH vs Average wOBA of player used as DH on NL teams during interleague
by FairweatherFan on Jun 29, 2009 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
okay, but they lose that in NL games
where a key offensive component may sit, and NL pitchers have more experience hitting. Evens out in my mind, though I haven’t seen any data.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
by Aadik on Jun 29, 2009 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I understand
But i’ve seen it argued before. Should be pretty easy to prove.
As far as the record – interleague schedule is governened more by geographic location than anything else – highly possible the strength of schedule favors the AL.
by FairweatherFan on Jun 29, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mathematically impossible, since all 30 teams play.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 29, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but the teams don’t play every team in the other league. The schedules of the involved teams are NOT equal. Therefore, it is possible, though highly improbable, that for an extended period of time the AL teams consistently play inferior opponents due to essentially random chance. This would of course be created by the cited league difference of 5-10 wins.
Not saying it’s true. Just saying it’s possible because the schedules aren’t actually equal.
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by cornball on Jun 29, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not in any way possible. While individual teams could, and probably do get screwed, overall all the teams in the AL play and all the teams in the NL play, making it impossible that the AL plays “inferior opponents” – unless NL teams, in general, are inferior opponents.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 30, 2009 3:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem is that you cannot say that each team in the NL, for example, plays an equal interleague schedule. They don’t. The schedules are not equal and match-up inequity can occur. For instance, the Giants play the A’s twice every year. No other team in the NL does. Therefore, it is possible, even on a league-wide basis, that the best NL teams generally play the best AL teams (which is the inherently better league at the moment) and the worst NL teams play the worst AL teams. It could happen. It is just highly, almost impossibly, improbable.
However, I think it is more likely that the talent-level in the AL is just higher.
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by cornball on Jun 30, 2009 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem is that you cannot say that each team in the NL, for example, plays an equal interleague schedule.
That doesn’t matter. I’m not saying that every single team gets a fair schedule. We’re not talking about an individual team, we’re talking about the entire league. You can make up whatever schedule you want – as long as all the teams play, it will not, in any way, affect the overall win probability of each league.
Think about it – it always balances out.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 30, 2009 7:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps I am thinking about this wrong
But the distribution is not equal. The Giants play 6g V. the A’s. The Yankee’s play 6 V. the Mets, etc. based on geographical location.
If you had the better teams from the AL playing a disproportionate # of games v. the worse teams from the NL, it would be possible. Because the teams don’t all play each other the same # of times, this might be possible.
Look at it this way – assume 2 15 team leagues. Take the best 5 teams in the AL and schedule them for 6 games each w/ the worst 5 teams in the NL.
Then you take the best 5 teams in the NL and schedule them for the next 5 best teams in the AL.
Then take the remaining worst 5 AL teams and play them against the middling 5 teams in the NL.
So, for simplicities sake, let’s say the best teams automatically win vs. the worst teams, the best teams are twice as good as the middling teams, and the middling teams are twice as good as the worst teams.
So, AL best V. NL Worst
AL up 30-0.
Now let’s say that middling teams v. best teams go 2-4.
AL middling V. NL Best
NL wins 20-10
AL up 40-20
Now lets say that AL worst v. NL middling goes the other way for NL,
NL Wins 20-10
Overall Record: 50-40 in favor of the AL.
If, however, the teams simply played Best v. Best and Worst v. Worst and split each series because of equal talent, they would be an even 60-60.
What it really depends on is how much better the best teams are than the second best, and the worst – etc.
by FairweatherFan on Jun 30, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s getting too close to the right, I replied to you in the end of the thread.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 30, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know that the Giants just played the Brewers during the normal interleague schedule, does every NL team miss 1 series vs. the AL?
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by Azmanz on Jun 30, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some AL pitchers can hit if they need to as well...
any advantage gained by a bunt here or there is easily mitigated by having your DH come out in the most critical situation.
Status: So pissed that the Giants sold my wall of Ks to Johnsonville Sausages, that I'm boycotting purchasing anything at the park, or patronizing their sponsors.
by GiantBrass on Jun 29, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe the argument is that the difference in production between AL and NL pitchers is much less than the difference between the DH and the best sub on a National League team.
Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NL teams can't afford to field an extra slugger who doesn't have to play defense!
Not only that, you are replacing the pitcher with a slugger who doesn’t have to hit. And even then if you don’t have a dedicated DH, you rotate the DH around to get people more rest to make sure they can hit in more games.
Status: So pissed that the Giants sold my wall of Ks to Johnsonville Sausages, that I'm boycotting purchasing anything at the park, or patronizing their sponsors.
by GiantBrass on Jun 29, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its use would be in gauging the most likely talent level of the big club medium & long term (over more than 1 season). It is kind of the other end of the spectrum to ride the hot hand all the time. Both have their uses.
/ waits for teh stats crowd to point out the erros in my ways here.
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on Jun 29, 2009 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Evenif right, they called my team the worst. I demand satisfaction, good sir (or madam)!
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
by shikantaza on Jun 29, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
STOP WATCHES
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Jun 29, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“You are what your record says you are.”
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by thethrillisgone on Jun 29, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tim Lincecum is God
It’s just metaphyics
by Viva Jon Miller on Jun 29, 2009 7:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, this is about Tim Lincecum’s game. That’s right.
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by WalrusMan on Jun 30, 2009 2:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Imagine if the Rockies had taken Tim, we would all hate him because he would have 2 no-hitters against us.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 7:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The Rockies decided too, to take another Pac-10 guy before Timmy but one who's tall and big league ready...
LOL
Mo'ped Money, Mo'ped Problems
by Scooter Ellis on Jun 29, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crying tears of blood
Thinking about that horrible hypothetical. You are paying for my therapy.
by Viva Jon Miller on Jun 29, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t worry that Tim would have had arm problems or been moved to the bullpen.
by Hobbes2d on Jun 30, 2009 1:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty sure that not only would Timmy no hit us, we’d owe hits the next game he faced us
Matt Cain's right hand beats a Royal Flush.
by Viva Gigantes on Jun 29, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Timmy was badass when they called him Kelly on Bad News Bears. He’s even more bad asser now.
Matt Cain's right hand beats a Royal Flush.
by Viva Gigantes on Jun 29, 2009 7:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i reserve my true hatred for dodgers and angels and scrappy obp guys.
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
reply fail.. haha
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Timmy is pretty good I guess. I remain unimpressed
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jun 29, 2009 7:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He's no Barry Zito!
If he was actually good he’d be making $18 million this year.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
by groug on Jun 29, 2009 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The way he’s pitching he’s going to demand $20 million + from the Giants. Damn Peter Magowan and his “face of the franchise” BS.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to get a Choco Taco...
In honor of Lincecum.
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by GiantBrass on Jun 29, 2009 7:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He’s no Billy Swift, but he gets the job done. And with prettier locks!
Matt Cain's right hand beats a Royal Flush.
by Viva Gigantes on Jun 29, 2009 7:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The wrap, omg.
Krukow: something about killing a six pack while talking about Tim.
Flemm: Let’s do it!
Jon Miller dies laughing.
I love these guys.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 29, 2009 7:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's hard not to
We must have one of the best commentary teams in baseball
by quincy0191 on Jun 29, 2009 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously
I live in DC, and I had to watch the local broadcasts of the Nats-Giants games. They have Rob Dibble….Rob. Dibble. Shudder.
Thank Lincecum that we get to listen to Jon and Flem and Kruk and Kuip.
by Viva Jon Miller on Jun 29, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was NASTY
Matt Cain's right hand beats a Royal Flush.
by Viva Gigantes on Jun 29, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So that is were Dibble went. I had hoped thought the EPA had rounded him up in the intrest of public safety.
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on Jun 29, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that would be OSHA
Krazy Krab despised in the 20th century and beloved in the 21st century. Hey it only took over 20 years, so don't give up hope.
by timmeh on Jun 30, 2009 1:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t care what part of the alphabet soup does it as long as they do it!
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on Jun 30, 2009 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Although it was fun
Hearing them repeatedly bash their own team. No sugar coating either, especially Dibble
by Viva Jon Miller on Jun 29, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I need to go buy a cheap radio to listen to the post game show on, my boom box that I used to use mysteriously disappeared while I was gone. :(
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
me too
I’d rather listen to that than Bip Roberts being…. Bip Roberts.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
by Aadik on Jun 29, 2009 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everything you have is slowly disappearing. I think it’s related to your refusal to watch Baseball Boogie.
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
by thehavenot on Jun 29, 2009 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Refering to who should start the All-Star game:
Kuip: “I think Sadowski’s got a shot.”
by deuce deuce on Jun 29, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 29, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
mortenson was only responsible for 2 runs.
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 7:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
WE NEEDZ TRADEZ FOR NOMAR TO REPLACE ISHI!!!
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on Jun 29, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not this
Matt Cain's right hand beats a Royal Flush.
by Viva Gigantes on Jun 29, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if Rags is even allowed to look Timmy in the eye. Eh, probably not.
Matt Cain's right hand beats a Royal Flush.
by Viva Gigantes on Jun 29, 2009 7:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Tim LIncecum lives in San Francisco.
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 7:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I heard Timmy counted to infinity between innings
Matt Cain's right hand beats a Royal Flush.
by Viva Gigantes on Jun 29, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"...even the prepositions."
He can speak Russian… in French.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Jun 29, 2009 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
AND HE SAVES FOXEZ
The San Francisco Giants: Where old men go to die.
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jun 29, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He only does the to mess with the straights hounds.
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on Jun 30, 2009 7:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which is still cool by the way.
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on Jun 30, 2009 7:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I seem to be pulling xanthan but with out content…
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on Jun 30, 2009 7:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I at least need a Rickard joke, bad pun or something. Quickly.
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on Jun 30, 2009 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
PIE wil save me!!!!
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on Jun 30, 2009 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since when has Xanthan had content?
Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
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by Zetsuboushita on Jun 30, 2009 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have you read his Uribe posts?
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Fuggen Rox! You might want to try beating The Bums more than once in 10 games. Try it. You might find you like it.
by daveinexile on Jun 30, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
fuck posey has a concussion! that sucks
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 7:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
OKAY TIME TO BURN DOWN STOCKTON
GROUGTHINK ALERT
by groug on Jun 29, 2009 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
brb gotta get my flamethrower
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 29, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO
by FairweatherFan on Jun 29, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its baseball. Troy Aikman got a concussion a week for years. Maybe they’ll wise up and move him to SS
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by Viva Gigantes on Jun 29, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was hit in the head by a pitch when he was hitting.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 29, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who the fuck does that in the minor leagues?
by FairweatherFan on Jun 29, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sandoval would get hit in the head by a ball he was swinging at
Matt Cain's right hand beats a Royal Flush.
by Viva Gigantes on Jun 29, 2009 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was a curve ball
but still, BASEBALLS ARE HARD!
They really should ban that pitcher forever and no I don’t think I’m overreacting.
by superk1ng on Jun 29, 2009 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sarchasm?
If not, really?
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Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Jun 29, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah, i was just kidding
still really douchey to hit a guy in the head
by superk1ng on Jun 29, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It happens
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by Giant among Angels on Jun 29, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was this intentional? Cause it seems to me that plenty of guys in the minors would have spotty enough control to accidentally hit a guy in the head
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by norcalnick on Jun 29, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
from what I heard
they threw at his head twice but I could be wrong about that
by superk1ng on Jun 29, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
From the video I saw and what I heard, it was a curveball and Posey sort of ducked into it trying to get out of the way.
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by marcello on Jun 29, 2009 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not in the Minors, but CHI-A’s Ramirez got drilled in the noggin tonight
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by Giant among Angels on Jun 29, 2009 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It looked like a curveball that just got away, but still. Apparently the pitcher threw over Posey’s head once as well.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 29, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
From the ESPN recap
The Giants have homered in five straight games, totaling eight. … The Giants haven’t committed an error in a season-high nine games.
Wow, power and defense? Did today actually happen?
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by norcalnick on Jun 29, 2009 7:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He actually says “bienvenidos, puta”
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by Viva Gigantes on Jun 29, 2009 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
by FairweatherFan on Jun 29, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
//shakes fist
Still in despair.
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by Zetsuboushita on Jun 29, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No coincidence we’ve played in only road games.
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by Azmanz on Jun 29, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ishi’s home/road split may finally be normalizing.
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Ishikawa, let the boy hit against lefties.
by kennv on Jun 29, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point..
At one point he was hitting 330 at home and 060 on the road
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