Post-Game Recap: Tim Lincecum is Good
by Grant on Jun 29, 2009 7:36 PM PDT
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Is there anything better than watching Tim Lincecum pitch to Albert Pujols? Yes. Tim Lincecum pitching to Albert Pujols with a nine-run lead in the seventh inning, sitting at, like, 20 pitches for the game. Hit it a mile, Pujols. In blowout-mode, I'll just enjoy the show.
And am I allowed to be righteous about an opposing superstar watching a non-homer? What's the statute of limitations on that? *checks with arbitration panel* Oh, never? I can never get indignant about that again?
Yeah, that's about right.
Also of note: Tim Lincecum pitching the best game of his career. On a warm summer night, 25 years ago, Greg Maddux and Pedro Martinez shared a bottle of chablis, a room at a Best Western, and a secret that survived until tonight. A complete game two-hitter in less than 100 pitches? Good gravy. What a gem.
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Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
by Azmanz on Jun 29, 2009 7:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
#3
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
by Azmanz on Jun 29, 2009 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At best?
Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NL WEST
top 3 teams in run differential
by superk1ng on Jun 29, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
MORE LIKE NL WORST
Status: So pissed that the Giants sold my wall of Ks to Johnsonville Sausages, that I'm boycotting purchasing anything at the park, or patronizing their sponsors.
by GiantBrass on Jun 29, 2009 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We'll get there someday.
Status: So pissed that the Giants sold my wall of Ks to Johnsonville Sausages, that I'm boycotting purchasing anything at the park, or patronizing their sponsors.
by GiantBrass on Jun 29, 2009 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
6.5 games...
Closing in on the soon to be cold Dodgers…
by bondo on Jun 29, 2009 7:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Timmy is awesome
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
by tobias on Jun 29, 2009 7:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
he kid is all right.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
by jcb9 on Jun 29, 2009 7:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He gives me a happy.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2009 7:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
As long he doesn’t give you a something else.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Half a chub is half of a real possibility here.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2009 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this kid is going to end up being a pretty good pitcher.
Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2009 7:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I love him
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 7:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
On a warm summer night, 25 years ago, Greg Maddux and Pedro Martinez shared a bottle of chablis, a room at a Best Western, and a secret that survived until tonight.
Creepy, yet hilarious. Goofusesque might be the right adjective.
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
by oldjacket on Jun 29, 2009 7:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Stupid mlb audio cut off my post game show and knbr isn’t streaming it yet.
by paboperfecto on Jun 29, 2009 7:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow-- THANK you. I didn't know that. That's great to know. Gracias.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Jun 29, 2009 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is indeed great news
Very handy to know
Judgment Day is coming
comics | art | Nattowear
by Natto on Jun 29, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tonight isn’t up yet but on the main page you could get Saturday and Sunday.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and click the subscribe link and you’ll get all the post game shows.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But this would mean teck is our friend?
/ confused
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on Jun 30, 2009 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
More thanks for that pointer.
MLB.com is always iffy for including the wrap in the archived Gameday audio, so this is really really handy.
by 2X2L on Jun 30, 2009 5:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mine is still going. I’ve noticed that when you click the link that’s right on the Gameday page (upper right), that seems to stay running longer than when you go through Gameday Audio.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
by tobias on Jun 29, 2009 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
PRESENT!
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Jun 29, 2009 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
YOU WIN THIS ROUND XANTHAN
Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
by Zetsuboushita on Jun 29, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone once videotaped Tim Lincecum getting pissed off. It was called Walker: Texas Chain Saw Massacre
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 7:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Fun Fact
Pablo Sandoval is only 7 months older than Buster Posey.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 29, 2009 7:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Awesome Fact
by FairweatherFan on Jun 29, 2009 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fun Fact
Pablo Sandoval is 5 days older than my sister.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
by jcb9 on Jun 29, 2009 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Walrus Man would consider that a cougar.
by Grant on Jun 29, 2009 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How did this meme start?
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 29, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably from WalrusMan’s numerous trips to Pitcairn Island.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that pie > cake, that Bochy is endowed by his creator with certain undeniable traits, that among these are veteran man-love, a gigantic skull, and the pursuit of the double switch.
Adopted Giant: Fred Lewis, who can still draw a walk.
by jcb9 on Jun 29, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have no idea. But it annoys him, and that’s all I need to know.
by Grant on Jun 29, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m considering turning jponry, um, getting excited into a meme.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 29, 2009 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's disgusting.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never stopped me before.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 29, 2009 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess
I can already see your balls, so it can’t get much worse.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.
by marcello on Jun 29, 2009 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boy with Balls on chin
/Insert picture of Butters with prosthetic balls on chin
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Jun 29, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This makes me lol and lol
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
by Aadik on Jun 29, 2009 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol Walrusman is a pedophile
meme compleat
Supporting San Francisco Dugout since 2005 and Manny Burriss since 2006, and bringing you all your California League needs since 2009.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 29, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just because I’m not here as much to defend myself doesn’t mean you have to keep on spreading it.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Kevin Frandsen, come back!
by WalrusMan on Jun 30, 2009 2:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s absolutely what it means
GROUGTHINK ALERT
by groug on Jun 30, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The case against him is public record. It’s a miracle he was acquitted.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bone Hard Medical Fact
Pablo Sandoval is fucking awesome.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol bone hard
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
by rotorueter on Jun 30, 2009 7:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is just amazing
I ran home to catch the last two innings. Can I say again how glad I am he’s a Giant?
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
by Aadik on Jun 29, 2009 7:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Andres Torres? Me too!
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Jun 29, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gravy is good
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Jun 29, 2009 7:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Mmmmmm...
Gravy…
Status: So pissed that the Giants sold my wall of Ks to Johnsonville Sausages, that I'm boycotting purchasing anything at the park, or patronizing their sponsors.
by GiantBrass on Jun 29, 2009 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gravy and biscuits is good!
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on Jun 29, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The grass is always greener on the other side, unless Tim Lincecum has been there. In that case the grass is most likely soaked in blood and tears.
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 7:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Tim Lincecum doesn't always drink beer;
But when he does…
by FairweatherFan on Jun 29, 2009 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
stay thirsty, my friend
Krazy Krab despised in the 20th century and beloved in the 21st century. Hey it only took over 20 years, so don't give up hope.
by timmeh on Jun 30, 2009 1:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He once got into a base-loaded situation, just to see how it feels.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Jun 30, 2009 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, I just made this my FB status
You think your a fan? You got nothing on my adopted daughter Sue Burns, now she's a fan. 4 out of 5 doctors agree Rosterbation can cause blindness and delusions of grandeur.
by igotnothing on Jun 30, 2009 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The two SF athletes worthy of the Chuck Norris treatment:
Timmy and Bamm Bamm (Patrick Willis)
I’m glad things are finally turning around for our teams.
by snafu on Jun 29, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d buy him a Choco Taco
Matt Cain's right hand beats a Royal Flush.
by Viva Gigantes on Jun 29, 2009 7:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I still want to know where I could buy this stuff.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Balco makes it. Devine!
Matt Cain's right hand beats a Royal Flush.
by Viva Gigantes on Jun 29, 2009 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are out there, just gotta look
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Jun 29, 2009 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn’t like every store have these?
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Jun 29, 2009 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, sometimes you can find them at Blockbuster
they also have them in the snack bar at the Exploratorium
The San Francisco Giants: Where old men go to die.
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jun 29, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Exploratorium again shows me why it’s possibly the greatest place on earth.
by Classy_Argonaut on Jun 29, 2009 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You unbelievably huge douche.
Now I’m going to want Choco Tacos all damn night.
Proud adoptive parent of Billy "Duke" Neukom. He's got balls of steel.
by Gabafnerhagen on Jun 29, 2009 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good thing we have sites like BtB to tell all us, the unwashed masses, about how the Giants are actually worse than the Nats.
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
by shikantaza on Jun 29, 2009 7:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
oh christ
this annoys me. You think BTB has some kind of built-in bias? They’re looking at the data, and it suggests the Giants have been very lucky. Pretending otherwise is idiotic.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
by Aadik on Jun 29, 2009 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it’s run by people who don’t even watch the game. Everything is stats, stats and more stats.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you really can't be one of the flat-earthers, can you?
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
by Aadik on Jun 29, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
With BtB, he does seem to be right.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Jun 29, 2009 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he was joking.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.
by marcello on Jun 29, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To rank the Giants so low, they don’t watch the game and judge everything based on stats. You have to watch it.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, you weren’t joking? Or is this epic level sarcasm?
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.
by marcello on Jun 29, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not joking. To judge everything based 100& on stats is wrong. These people don’t watch the games.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh shush
by FairweatherFan on Jun 29, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
These people don’t watch the games.
Oh, shut the hell up. I wrote for BtB briefly and it’s a great group of baseball fans. They not only watch baseball, they really, really like it!
by xanthan on Jun 29, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course they do
That’s the stupidest thing you could possibly say. Congrats.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.
by marcello on Jun 29, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It doesn’t seem like they do if they judge the Giants so low. If I’m wrong, I apologize.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look, the point of the project is as such:
Take every team in major league baseball. Pretend they’re in one division. Use their component stats and a league adjustment to determine how many runs they would score and allow if they were in one big division. That gives you your power rankings.
Is it a flawless methodology? I don’t think so. Is it gospel? No. Is it interesting? Sure. And as happy as I am with the Giants this year, there’s no question they’ve played over their heads in terms of W-L (I don’t think they’ve done so quite as drastically as the BTB Power Rankings say, but you know.)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
All the other “power rankings” I’ve seen has them at 8-10.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, yeah, based purely on W-L record, that’s a pretty fair place to put them. BTB is trying to go beyond that and look at how teams would do hypothetically, in an even playing field.
Like I said: is it perfect? I don’t think so. But they don’t have a vendetta against us or anything.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, all of you know what I think of it.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, and that’s fair enough, but it’s not fair to say things like “Oh, they don’t watch the games!” or “Omg they hate the Giantz!!!”
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kruk’s power rankings don’t count.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 29, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well any team
who has a very good starting rotation and excellent bullpen play is going to win games…
She Hate Me
by cloudydays on Jun 29, 2009 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's a thought exercise
Do you think people who spend so much time talking about baseball that they write about it for multiple sites WOULDN’T watch games? If they just wanted to play with numbers, they wouldn’t need the game of baseball to do that.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.
by marcello on Jun 29, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love McCC, but I’ve never seen so many people ready to overreact to a simple, inoffensive comment. Geez, relax a bit
Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
McCC = McClain Chronicles
by Useful_Idiot on Jun 30, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you think it’s inoffensive, you missed it. The not watching games comment is old and tired and really fucking condescending.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.
by marcello on Jul 1, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sure Sky Kalkman watches games (I think he’s a Reds fan?) But you’re misinterpreting the point of the thing they’re doing.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sky Kalkman is actually an underground computer buried 3 miles beneath the earth’s crust.
by xanthan on Jun 29, 2009 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/watches 18 GB of porn on Sky Kalkman in one lonely night
by Grant on Jun 29, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somewhere, Sky just shuddered.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.
by marcello on Jun 29, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, a relative of yours?
Judgment Day is coming
comics | art | Nattowear
by Natto on Jun 29, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
While I don’t deny the usefulness of statistical analysis, your attitude of infallibility makes me want to join the flat earth society.
Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
McCC = McClain Chronicles
by Useful_Idiot on Jun 30, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think what it suggests
Is that any model becomes questionable at the extremes. The Nationals are so epically bad that I think their performance is operating in the nonsensical edge of the model.
by FairweatherFan on Jun 29, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand that
I just like to joke about it
by superk1ng on Jun 29, 2009 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
by shikantaza on Jun 29, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They need to look at moar stats then!
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
by shikantaza on Jun 29, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just kind of like saying “WORST TEAM IN BASEBALL IMO”, I understand their methodology and I accept it.
I also think it’d be more useful to take the actual performance into account a bit though.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But the Giants suck that one year in the ’90s!
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Jun 29, 2009 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looking forward, you absolutely do. Our wins are banked, regardless of how we got them. No backsies.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.
by marcello on Jun 29, 2009 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, exactly
I get what the point of the project is (to put all the teams into one big pot and decide how good they are based on component stats), but I just don’t know how useful it really is if you completely what actually happened. The projected standings are far better in that regard.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know that their method is the best method out there, I have no clue what is, but I don’t think it’s without merit. It’s certainly not gospel though.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.
by marcello on Jun 29, 2009 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I think it’s an interesting exercise but not necessarily predictive.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Problem is that 90% of the people criticizing it never actually bothered to find out what the method is.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 29, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s true. At this point though, as the Giants keep playing well, it’s just fun to say “Worst team in baseball imo” after every win. YMMV.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't really looked at their methodology
So I can’t comment one way or the other, but I generally tend to trust math.
by FairweatherFan on Jun 29, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I tend to trust math too, but it was like two weeks ago when the Nationals were supposed to be better than the Giants. That absolutely killed any credibility those rankings were supposed to have, because there’s no way it was true.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
by groug on Jun 29, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, like I said
I would suspect that the epic fail of the nationals bullpen broke their model. All of these linear projection type things depend on results lingering around the mean.
by FairweatherFan on Jun 29, 2009 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Giants are Nats are like bizzaro opposites. One team with great hitting but league worst pitching. The other with great pitching but league worst hitting.
by xanthan on Jun 29, 2009 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Together
THEY WOULD RULE THE WORLD
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or really suck
by FairweatherFan on Jun 29, 2009 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be epic.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Jun 29, 2009 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not like anyone would notice if we just absorbed the Nats...
Yoink!
Status: So pissed that the Giants sold my wall of Ks to Johnsonville Sausages, that I'm boycotting purchasing anything at the park, or patronizing their sponsors.
by GiantBrass on Jun 29, 2009 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nats don’t really have great hitting.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 29, 2009 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they did, at the time. They’ve gotten worse since then.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are 6th in the NL in wOBA right now. I think the last time I looked they were a top-3 team.
by xanthan on Jun 29, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
team OPS+ is down to 98
not that that really matters w/ the way BTB is doing their thang.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, they were doing better a month or so ago when I last checked. Still, a near average offense is pretty good.
by xanthan on Jun 29, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giants’ pitching + average offense = teh sex
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Jun 29, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends how you define “great”, I guess.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 29, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't looked up the stats
but I bet they have a really shitty defense too, especially in the OF
by superk1ng on Jun 29, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that’s responsible for a decent amount of the shitty pitching.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last in the majors in UZR.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 29, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OMG WHY DIDNT GIANTS BRAZZS SIGN HIM?! HE HITS DINGERZZZ!
by Hobbes2d on Jun 30, 2009 1:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For the record, I got that you were at least partially joking about it. I think some people bandwagoned on that not realizing.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.
by marcello on Jun 29, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly, I'm not that interested
I’m sure there’s a basis for what they’re doing, but I’m not sure why making fun of the fact that their system wasn’t terribly predictive with respect to the Giants is bad. I mean, I give regular experts crap when they make bad predictions; I’m not down with people who hold themselves out as experts + numbers hiding behind the model. If the model gets you crappy results, then the model has problems. I do not think it should be off limits to tease when the model fails, and I think it’s a copout for the designer to just say “the model predicts what the model predicts.” if it does not desribe my reality in some useful way, then I don’t have much use for it.
All that being said, of course statistical analysis is good for baseball. I’m just going to call out those foolios if they design a system that wrongly calls my team the worst.
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
by shikantaza on Jun 29, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
See
I don’t know if they’re necessarily trying to say it’s predictive. It seems like more of an attempt to put all the teams on the same playing field (aka out of their divisions) and see what would, hypothetically, happen.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
See, here's my issue
This is impossible. How do you use stats (any stats, even component stats) that are happening in reality to show what would happen in some hypothetical even playing field? The component stats weren’t made on this even playing field.
I’m probably just missing something, here. But that’s what I think at this current juncture in time.
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
by thehavenot on Jun 29, 2009 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would tend to agree, but I still think it’s a valiant, if somewhat flawed, effort.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Beyond the Box Score power rankings are my Baseball Boogie. I have never looked at them and never will.
by Evan on Jun 29, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
high five
I still haven’t watched the Baseball Boogie either.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re missing out on a lot of satin jackets.
by xanthan on Jun 29, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah I know, that’s what I meant … I have watched it. And my life is richer for it.
by Evan on Jun 29, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How could you miss out on this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nXl93ji30M
Judgment Day is coming
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by Natto on Jun 29, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I WILL NOT
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's Flashbeagle, Charlie Brown
GROUGTHINK ALERT
by groug on Jun 29, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
(It’s not really Baseball Boogie)
Judgment Day is coming
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by Natto on Jun 29, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/kidnaps jponry, ties her to a chair, tapes her eyes open and puts on Baseball Boogie.
…this is kind of creepy.
But I’ma keep it!
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
by thehavenot on Jun 29, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So….that’s what you’re doing Friday night!
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by WalrusMan on Jun 30, 2009 2:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure I see a meaningful difference
Their model declares the Giants worse than the Nats. That’s clearly wrong. What’s the point if it doesn’t yield something useful?
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
by shikantaza on Jun 29, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s not true anymore.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still mad!
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
by shikantaza on Jun 29, 2009 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, they are saying it’s kind of predictive, as they put out Predicted Standings as well.
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by WalrusMan on Jun 30, 2009 2:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but those at least take into account the actual W-L record so far this year, as far as I can tell.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 30, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, but then they make predictions based off of the evaluation system. It’s mixed signal to say the least.
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
by oldjacket on Jun 30, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure why making fun of the fact that their system wasn’t terribly predictive with respect to the Giants is bad
The system was never meant to predict anything. Anyone who actually bothered to read what they wrote would know that.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 29, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reading is tough. I just want to react to things.
by xanthan on Jun 29, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's the point of a model that doesn't predict?
Even if the prediction is with respect to a hypothetical (eg, one big league)?
What’s the point of baseball rankings that don’t actually rank?
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
by shikantaza on Jun 29, 2009 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To see who the “actual” best teams in baseball are, hypothetically, without the oddities that unbalanced schedules produce.
It doesn’t mean anything IRL but it’s for fun.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally
I see that. My point is that a ranking system that would place the Giants below the Nats when it did has some flaws, even if it’s saying what would happen under hypothetical conditions.
Seriously though, I’m glad my snark generated some discussion, but I don’t mean to overblow the point. One bad result does not a horrible model make! I’m sure what they do has value.
BUT THEY CALLED MY TEAM THE WORST!
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
by shikantaza on Jun 29, 2009 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are so many adjustments, it seems like each tweak futzes the outcome by 5%….
“Okay, we’ll start with the basic idea that every NL team is 500% worse than AL teams. Good? Okay, let’s move on…”
by Grant on Jun 29, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The thing is
The league differential is at least 5 wins, and maybe 10. We can pretend its not, but all the evidence we have suggests this is the case. Toronto is one of the best teams in baseball, but players in the most brutal division around.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
by Aadik on Jun 29, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, except the Giants smoked the interleague series.
by FairweatherFan on Jun 29, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
cmon man, there's basic sample size issues
The AL has over the last 2-3 years performed at a pretty good clip; I think its something like a .580 win pct (I’m pulling this from memory). That’s significant and a large enough sample.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
by Aadik on Jun 29, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know dude, I'm on your side
Remember ?
by FairweatherFan on Jun 29, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
SSS. AL has won something like 9 out of the last 10 interleagues. Past 5 years the AL has a ~.580 winning percentage against the NL. That’s pretty significant.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 29, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
I don’t know. Also DH would obviously help the other league, so if you are just using Run Differential…
=/
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by GiantBrass on Jun 29, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
why?
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
by Aadik on Jun 29, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's been argued
That because AL teams carry a DH, they have the advantage in AL home games. Makes some sense as NL teams don’t have guys like Ortiz just sitting around on the bench.
by FairweatherFan on Jun 29, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But
Most AL Teams don’t have someone like David Ortiz DHing.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
right
but Most NL teams have the 4th OF DH’ing
It would be interesting to look at it, altho I think it’s been done.
Average wOBA of AL DH vs Average wOBA of player used as DH on NL teams during interleague
by FairweatherFan on Jun 29, 2009 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
okay, but they lose that in NL games
where a key offensive component may sit, and NL pitchers have more experience hitting. Evens out in my mind, though I haven’t seen any data.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
by Aadik on Jun 29, 2009 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I understand
But i’ve seen it argued before. Should be pretty easy to prove.
As far as the record – interleague schedule is governened more by geographic location than anything else – highly possible the strength of schedule favors the AL.
by FairweatherFan on Jun 29, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mathematically impossible, since all 30 teams play.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 29, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but the teams don’t play every team in the other league. The schedules of the involved teams are NOT equal. Therefore, it is possible, though highly improbable, that for an extended period of time the AL teams consistently play inferior opponents due to essentially random chance. This would of course be created by the cited league difference of 5-10 wins.
Not saying it’s true. Just saying it’s possible because the schedules aren’t actually equal.
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by cornball on Jun 29, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not in any way possible. While individual teams could, and probably do get screwed, overall all the teams in the AL play and all the teams in the NL play, making it impossible that the AL plays “inferior opponents” – unless NL teams, in general, are inferior opponents.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 30, 2009 3:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem is that you cannot say that each team in the NL, for example, plays an equal interleague schedule. They don’t. The schedules are not equal and match-up inequity can occur. For instance, the Giants play the A’s twice every year. No other team in the NL does. Therefore, it is possible, even on a league-wide basis, that the best NL teams generally play the best AL teams (which is the inherently better league at the moment) and the worst NL teams play the worst AL teams. It could happen. It is just highly, almost impossibly, improbable.
However, I think it is more likely that the talent-level in the AL is just higher.
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by cornball on Jun 30, 2009 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem is that you cannot say that each team in the NL, for example, plays an equal interleague schedule.
That doesn’t matter. I’m not saying that every single team gets a fair schedule. We’re not talking about an individual team, we’re talking about the entire league. You can make up whatever schedule you want – as long as all the teams play, it will not, in any way, affect the overall win probability of each league.
Think about it – it always balances out.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 30, 2009 7:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps I am thinking about this wrong
But the distribution is not equal. The Giants play 6g V. the A’s. The Yankee’s play 6 V. the Mets, etc. based on geographical location.
If you had the better teams from the AL playing a disproportionate # of games v. the worse teams from the NL, it would be possible. Because the teams don’t all play each other the same # of times, this might be possible.
Look at it this way – assume 2 15 team leagues. Take the best 5 teams in the AL and schedule them for 6 games each w/ the worst 5 teams in the NL.
Then you take the best 5 teams in the NL and schedule them for the next 5 best teams in the AL.
Then take the remaining worst 5 AL teams and play them against the middling 5 teams in the NL.
So, for simplicities sake, let’s say the best teams automatically win vs. the worst teams, the best teams are twice as good as the middling teams, and the middling teams are twice as good as the worst teams.
So, AL best V. NL Worst
AL up 30-0.
Now let’s say that middling teams v. best teams go 2-4.
AL middling V. NL Best
NL wins 20-10
AL up 40-20
Now lets say that AL worst v. NL middling goes the other way for NL,
NL Wins 20-10
Overall Record: 50-40 in favor of the AL.
If, however, the teams simply played Best v. Best and Worst v. Worst and split each series because of equal talent, they would be an even 60-60.
What it really depends on is how much better the best teams are than the second best, and the worst – etc.
by FairweatherFan on Jun 30, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s getting too close to the right, I replied to you in the end of the thread.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 30, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know that the Giants just played the Brewers during the normal interleague schedule, does every NL team miss 1 series vs. the AL?
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by Azmanz on Jun 30, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some AL pitchers can hit if they need to as well...
any advantage gained by a bunt here or there is easily mitigated by having your DH come out in the most critical situation.
Status: So pissed that the Giants sold my wall of Ks to Johnsonville Sausages, that I'm boycotting purchasing anything at the park, or patronizing their sponsors.
by GiantBrass on Jun 29, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe the argument is that the difference in production between AL and NL pitchers is much less than the difference between the DH and the best sub on a National League team.
Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NL teams can't afford to field an extra slugger who doesn't have to play defense!
Not only that, you are replacing the pitcher with a slugger who doesn’t have to hit. And even then if you don’t have a dedicated DH, you rotate the DH around to get people more rest to make sure they can hit in more games.
Status: So pissed that the Giants sold my wall of Ks to Johnsonville Sausages, that I'm boycotting purchasing anything at the park, or patronizing their sponsors.
by GiantBrass on Jun 29, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its use would be in gauging the most likely talent level of the big club medium & long term (over more than 1 season). It is kind of the other end of the spectrum to ride the hot hand all the time. Both have their uses.
/ waits for teh stats crowd to point out the erros in my ways here.
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on Jun 29, 2009 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Evenif right, they called my team the worst. I demand satisfaction, good sir (or madam)!
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
by shikantaza on Jun 29, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
STOP WATCHES
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Jun 29, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“You are what your record says you are.”
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by thethrillisgone on Jun 29, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tim Lincecum is God
It’s just metaphyics
by Viva Jon Miller on Jun 29, 2009 7:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, this is about Tim Lincecum’s game. That’s right.
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by WalrusMan on Jun 30, 2009 2:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Imagine if the Rockies had taken Tim, we would all hate him because he would have 2 no-hitters against us.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 7:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The Rockies decided too, to take another Pac-10 guy before Timmy but one who's tall and big league ready...
LOL
Mo'ped Money, Mo'ped Problems
by Scooter Ellis on Jun 29, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crying tears of blood
Thinking about that horrible hypothetical. You are paying for my therapy.
by Viva Jon Miller on Jun 29, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t worry that Tim would have had arm problems or been moved to the bullpen.
by Hobbes2d on Jun 30, 2009 1:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty sure that not only would Timmy no hit us, we’d owe hits the next game he faced us
Matt Cain's right hand beats a Royal Flush.
by Viva Gigantes on Jun 29, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Timmy was badass when they called him Kelly on Bad News Bears. He’s even more bad asser now.
Matt Cain's right hand beats a Royal Flush.
by Viva Gigantes on Jun 29, 2009 7:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i reserve my true hatred for dodgers and angels and scrappy obp guys.
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
reply fail.. haha
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Timmy is pretty good I guess. I remain unimpressed
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jun 29, 2009 7:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He's no Barry Zito!
If he was actually good he’d be making $18 million this year.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
by groug on Jun 29, 2009 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The way he’s pitching he’s going to demand $20 million + from the Giants. Damn Peter Magowan and his “face of the franchise” BS.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to get a Choco Taco...
In honor of Lincecum.
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by GiantBrass on Jun 29, 2009 7:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He’s no Billy Swift, but he gets the job done. And with prettier locks!
Matt Cain's right hand beats a Royal Flush.
by Viva Gigantes on Jun 29, 2009 7:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The wrap, omg.
Krukow: something about killing a six pack while talking about Tim.
Flemm: Let’s do it!
Jon Miller dies laughing.
I love these guys.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 29, 2009 7:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's hard not to
We must have one of the best commentary teams in baseball
by quincy0191 on Jun 29, 2009 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously
I live in DC, and I had to watch the local broadcasts of the Nats-Giants games. They have Rob Dibble….Rob. Dibble. Shudder.
Thank Lincecum that we get to listen to Jon and Flem and Kruk and Kuip.
by Viva Jon Miller on Jun 29, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was NASTY
Matt Cain's right hand beats a Royal Flush.
by Viva Gigantes on Jun 29, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So that is were Dibble went. I had hoped thought the EPA had rounded him up in the intrest of public safety.
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on Jun 29, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that would be OSHA
Krazy Krab despised in the 20th century and beloved in the 21st century. Hey it only took over 20 years, so don't give up hope.
by timmeh on Jun 30, 2009 1:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t care what part of the alphabet soup does it as long as they do it!
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on Jun 30, 2009 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Although it was fun
Hearing them repeatedly bash their own team. No sugar coating either, especially Dibble
by Viva Jon Miller on Jun 29, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I need to go buy a cheap radio to listen to the post game show on, my boom box that I used to use mysteriously disappeared while I was gone. :(
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
me too
I’d rather listen to that than Bip Roberts being…. Bip Roberts.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
by Aadik on Jun 29, 2009 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everything you have is slowly disappearing. I think it’s related to your refusal to watch Baseball Boogie.
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
by thehavenot on Jun 29, 2009 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Refering to who should start the All-Star game:
Kuip: “I think Sadowski’s got a shot.”
by deuce deuce on Jun 29, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 29, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
mortenson was only responsible for 2 runs.
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 7:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
WE NEEDZ TRADEZ FOR NOMAR TO REPLACE ISHI!!!
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on Jun 29, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not this
Matt Cain's right hand beats a Royal Flush.
by Viva Gigantes on Jun 29, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if Rags is even allowed to look Timmy in the eye. Eh, probably not.
Matt Cain's right hand beats a Royal Flush.
by Viva Gigantes on Jun 29, 2009 7:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Tim LIncecum lives in San Francisco.
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 7:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I heard Timmy counted to infinity between innings
Matt Cain's right hand beats a Royal Flush.
by Viva Gigantes on Jun 29, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"...even the prepositions."
He can speak Russian… in French.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Jun 29, 2009 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
AND HE SAVES FOXEZ
The San Francisco Giants: Where old men go to die.
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jun 29, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He only does the to mess with the straights hounds.
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on Jun 30, 2009 7:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which is still cool by the way.
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on Jun 30, 2009 7:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I seem to be pulling xanthan but with out content…
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on Jun 30, 2009 7:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I at least need a Rickard joke, bad pun or something. Quickly.
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on Jun 30, 2009 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
PIE wil save me!!!!
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on Jun 30, 2009 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since when has Xanthan had content?
Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
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by Zetsuboushita on Jun 30, 2009 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have you read his Uribe posts?
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Fuggen Rox! You might want to try beating The Bums more than once in 10 games. Try it. You might find you like it.
by daveinexile on Jun 30, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
fuck posey has a concussion! that sucks
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 7:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
OKAY TIME TO BURN DOWN STOCKTON
GROUGTHINK ALERT
by groug on Jun 29, 2009 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
brb gotta get my flamethrower
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 29, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO
by FairweatherFan on Jun 29, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its baseball. Troy Aikman got a concussion a week for years. Maybe they’ll wise up and move him to SS
Matt Cain's right hand beats a Royal Flush.
by Viva Gigantes on Jun 29, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was hit in the head by a pitch when he was hitting.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 29, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who the fuck does that in the minor leagues?
by FairweatherFan on Jun 29, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sandoval would get hit in the head by a ball he was swinging at
Matt Cain's right hand beats a Royal Flush.
by Viva Gigantes on Jun 29, 2009 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was a curve ball
but still, BASEBALLS ARE HARD!
They really should ban that pitcher forever and no I don’t think I’m overreacting.
by superk1ng on Jun 29, 2009 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sarchasm?
If not, really?
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Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Jun 29, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah, i was just kidding
still really douchey to hit a guy in the head
by superk1ng on Jun 29, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It happens
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Jun 29, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was this intentional? Cause it seems to me that plenty of guys in the minors would have spotty enough control to accidentally hit a guy in the head
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by norcalnick on Jun 29, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
from what I heard
they threw at his head twice but I could be wrong about that
by superk1ng on Jun 29, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
From the video I saw and what I heard, it was a curveball and Posey sort of ducked into it trying to get out of the way.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.
by marcello on Jun 29, 2009 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not in the Minors, but CHI-A’s Ramirez got drilled in the noggin tonight
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Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Jun 29, 2009 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It looked like a curveball that just got away, but still. Apparently the pitcher threw over Posey’s head once as well.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 29, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
From the ESPN recap
The Giants have homered in five straight games, totaling eight. … The Giants haven’t committed an error in a season-high nine games.
Wow, power and defense? Did today actually happen?
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
by norcalnick on Jun 29, 2009 7:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He actually says “bienvenidos, puta”
Matt Cain's right hand beats a Royal Flush.
by Viva Gigantes on Jun 29, 2009 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
by FairweatherFan on Jun 29, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
//shakes fist
Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
by Zetsuboushita on Jun 29, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No coincidence we’ve played in only road games.
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by Azmanz on Jun 29, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ishi’s home/road split may finally be normalizing.
co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
Ishikawa, let the boy hit against lefties.
by kennv on Jun 29, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point..
At one point he was hitting 330 at home and 060 on the road
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by Azmanz on Jun 29, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This sample fill on KNBR online is 1,000% annoying.
by xanthan on Jun 29, 2009 7:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
10 x more annoying that physically possible
That’s pretty annoying.
by FairweatherFan on Jun 29, 2009 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fun Timmy Numbers:
http://www.bb-ref.com/play-index/shareit/2GUG
Tim Lincecum has the best start by a pitcher in the history of the Giants franchise (not including dead ball era). Sal Maglie right behind…any old timers out there think that Maglie and Timmy are a good comparison for starts of a career?
by backtocali on Jun 29, 2009 7:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Tim’s defensive stop got #2 on Baseball Tonight’s web gems.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 7:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Uribe at 5.
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by cheno on Jun 29, 2009 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey! They finally got something right!
by deuce deuce on Jun 29, 2009 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As long as we don’t play in the west coast we can get web gems.
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by Azmanz on Jun 29, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
0-0 barnburner in LA so far
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 8:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Had runners at 1st and 3rd with one out and the inning ended in a double play (line drive).
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giants-esque
by FairweatherFan on Jun 29, 2009 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok watching it on mlb.com now
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jim Cornette is all like whatever.
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by Natto on Jun 29, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought you would have gone to the wrestling show tonight in Oakland.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I forgot about it until just recently.
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by Natto on Jun 29, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to a friend of mine who follows this stuff, it’s a double taping tonight.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just want to thank you, Juan, for all that you’ve done to your body ….. by eating all of those chicken wings.
by xanthan on Jun 29, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One of these days, Xanthan, I am going to fork bomb you. THEN WE’LL SEE WHO’S LAUGHING
Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
by Zetsuboushita on Jun 29, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OH GOD HIS ROTUND FORM IS BLOCKING THE I/O PORTS
Still in despair.
BRING BACK MARMOL!
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
by Zetsuboushita on Jun 29, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was awesome
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
by Aadik on Jun 29, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve never seen a man eat so many chicken wings.
Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What’s the backstory on this video?
by deuce deuce on Jun 29, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will once again enter my plea to legalize forced euthanasia.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.
by marcello on Jun 29, 2009 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This Lincecum fellow is not bad.
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by Natto on Jun 29, 2009 8:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for your contributions!
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Jun 29, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
thinking with his dipstick
Choppin' broccoli
by SimpleJaquez on Jun 30, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
dodgers' pitching is good
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 8:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
if by good you mean
Evil.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But, but, but...team ERA
Obviously we need to trade Lincecum and Cain for Billingsly and Kershaw…
by Viva Jon Miller on Jun 29, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it sucks.. but this is like their third best pitcher tonight. and he in the fifth with a shutout.
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha not anymore. 2-0 Rockies!
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This “contending” thing sucks. We’re only going to get like the #25 pick if this keeps up.
by Evan on Jun 29, 2009 8:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Matt Cain was the #25 pick :)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
Who else came out of that draft?
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by GiantBrass on Jun 29, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of people. Arguably the best draft ever.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 29, 2009 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeremy Brown
Nick Swisher
Joe Blanton
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But he sucks.
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by Natto on Jun 29, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Third Starter yadda yadda
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by GiantBrass on Jun 29, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Third starter?? He’s lucky he’s in the rotation.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Losing every game!! Go for Bryce Harper!!
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
then maybe we will draft a position player.
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lower expectations, so it could be likelier.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Jun 29, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lots of players with high financial demands fall down there.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Jun 29, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some minor leaguer got suspended for his third violation of the drug policy. How stupid can you be to fail 3 drug tests?
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 8:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Stupid, or desperate.
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Kevin Frandsen, come back!
by WalrusMan on Jun 30, 2009 2:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this Lincecum guy could be a good pitcher in a few years
She Hate Me
by cloudydays on Jun 29, 2009 8:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
When he gets some more veteran savvy
GROUGTHINK ALERT
by groug on Jun 29, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So could the guy pitching tomorrow.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Jun 29, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Needs more wall-crashing
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Jun 29, 2009 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN gives us Manny in the minors highlights before Lincecum’s dominance.
IN WHAT WORLD DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE!?!
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
by norcalnick on Jun 29, 2009 8:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Fuggen' Rox
Pro Tip: Perhaps you can beat the Dodger more than once in 10 games? Try it. You might find you like it.
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on Jun 30, 2009 7:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
MANNY MANNY MANNY MANNY MANNY MANNY MANNY
GROUGTHINK ALERT
by groug on Jun 29, 2009 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
EAST COAST BIAS!
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Jun 29, 2009 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In ESPN’s world, talking about what Brett Favre is having for breakfast is more important than anything else happening in the sports world.
by deuce deuce on Jun 29, 2009 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In ESPN’s world, talking about when Brett Favre is POOPIN is more important than anything else happening in the sports world.
She Hate Me
by cloudydays on Jun 29, 2009 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BRET FAVRE JUST BOUGHT A MERKIN! TELL ESPN!
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Jun 29, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously, the place the highlights in the order where the most people care about them. That’s called business.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Jun 29, 2009 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which is why MLB Network's highlight show is so good
They’re about baseball, not catering to New York and LA.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
by groug on Jun 29, 2009 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And now they have Ken Rosenthal.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Jun 29, 2009 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even when they had Red Sox-Yankees on Thursday night baseball, they didn’t lead off their highlight show with that game.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lincecum's dominance
not news. Total yawner.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
by zenbitz on Jun 29, 2009 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another great game by Lincecum. Me likey CG shutouts.
by wilriv21 on Jun 29, 2009 8:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Any room for this kid?
John Boy Bowker at it again. Bowkermania continues at Fresno
by wilriv21 on Jun 29, 2009 8:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That would mean getting rid of someone important like Rich Aurilia.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I can totally see why the Giants aren’t making that move.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
by Azmanz on Jun 29, 2009 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“It’s the intangibles”
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Jun 29, 2009 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could see Bochy starting Aurilia when he returns “to get him going”.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was it part of the meme or did I hear from somebody here that he can play first?
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Jun 29, 2009 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He can play 1st as well as Nate can play 3rd
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
by Azmanz on Jun 29, 2009 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The bad news is that his OPS went down.
by Grant on Jun 29, 2009 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No he only had one hit.
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by Natto on Jun 29, 2009 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was making a Guzman joke.
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by Natto on Jun 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah
that actually makes a lot more sense than suddenly after years of fan-dom forgetting how to read a box score :)
by SnowLeopard on Jun 29, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and when you say “jesus” you are not talking about Guzman
by wilriv21 on Jun 29, 2009 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this inning is taking forever. timmy would have like 12 outs by the time its over.
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 8:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I like it when the Giants 10-run other teams
She Hate Me
by cloudydays on Jun 29, 2009 8:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So, what’s the final verdict, who is to blame for Ankiel’s judy-hit?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Jun 29, 2009 8:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Fred Lewis
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 29, 2009 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fred Lewis
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
by Azmanz on Jun 29, 2009 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barry Bonds
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
by thehavenot on Jun 29, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He hates the autobots
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
by thehavenot on Jun 29, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fred Lewis
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Kevin Frandsen, come back!
by WalrusMan on Jun 30, 2009 2:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dodgers just tied the game in the bottom of the 5th, 2-2
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 8:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Rockies suck.
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by Natto on Jun 29, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was the right call
He didn’t give the hitter time out
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
by Azmanz on Jun 29, 2009 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree. it was jacked up. a more seasoned pitcher would have taken advantage of that and poured one down the middle.
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the ump supposed to give the hitter time when he requests it.
by wilriv21 on Jun 29, 2009 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never has to though, so it can never be assumed.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Jun 29, 2009 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it is supposed to be granted for safety reasons
by wilriv21 on Jun 29, 2009 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, it’s all discretionary.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Jun 29, 2009 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope. Completely up to the ump.
Unrelated, but remember when the Tigers were playing the A’s a few years ago and Bobby whoever was hitting for Detroit. The ump called play ball while he was out of the box and he still got a hit.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Jun 29, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No. It is the umpires right to either grant or not grant the time-out
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Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Jun 29, 2009 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know if he was asking for time.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rule 6.02(b), Comment:
“… Umpires will not call “Time” at the request of the batter or any member of his team once the pitcher has started his windup or come to a Set Position, even though the batter claims “dust in his eyes,” “steamed glasses,” “didn’t get the sign,” or any other cause.
“Umpires may grant a hitter’s request for “Time” once he is in the batter’s box, but the umpire should eliminate hitters walking out of the batter’s box without reason. If umpires are not lenient, batters will understand that they are in the batter’s box and they must remain there until the ball is pitched."
(Emphasis in original.)
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Jun 29, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you can throw 98mph would you throw offspeed to an opposing pitcher?
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To Micah Owings I would.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Jun 29, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
holy shit the dodgers are lucky
pitcher with a two out hit to score 2
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 8:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
After a weeeirrd Balk
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
by Azmanz on Jun 29, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Faking the “time called” as a hitter seems like it could be an effective strategy
by snafu on Jun 29, 2009 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah, how about Bengie tonight?
3 for 5 and scored on a hit from 2B!
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Jun 29, 2009 8:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Note: The hit was a triple.
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Kevin Frandsen, come back!
by WalrusMan on Jun 30, 2009 2:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I know
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Jun 30, 2009 6:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the latter
Status: So pissed that the Giants sold my wall of Ks to Johnsonville Sausages, that I'm boycotting purchasing anything at the park, or patronizing their sponsors.
by GiantBrass on Jun 29, 2009 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hilarious
ozzie guillen calls wrigley field. ‘just a bar.’ isnt comisky where those fans came out of the seats to attack a player?
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 8:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
White Sox still has to go back to Wrigley for one more game, too.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he said, ‘because our fans aren’t stupid…..’ hahaha
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s trying to keep the White Sox relevant in that city. Winning the World Series didn’t do it.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Jun 29, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOLoney
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
by Azmanz on Jun 29, 2009 8:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Since Sadowski will start on Friday night and Aurilia returns on Friday night, who gets sent down?? I would imagine a pitcher goes.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 8:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
everyone is out of options except romo and wilson right?
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some have said Sanchez has an option left.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
can you imagine how angry dirty would be to get sent down.
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"I'm Looking At The Man in The Mirror"
get him a mirror
by wilriv21 on Jun 29, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would be pretty messed up to DFA Aurilia as soon as he comes back from bereavement
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Jun 29, 2009 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. It won’t happen that way, if it ever happens.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Jun 29, 2009 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It will never happen.
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 29, 2009 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he should just take as much time as he needs. In fact, he should just take the remainder of the season off to deal with his personal tragedy. We’ll all understand.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 29, 2009 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But what happens when Sabean signs him to another minor league deal for 2010??
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
but who is manger in 2010?
Mutters, “No Big Head. No Big Head. No Big Head. No Big Head. No Big Head. No Big Head. No Big Head. No Big Head. No Big Head. No Big Head. No Big Head. No Big Head. No Big Head. No Big Head.”
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on Jun 30, 2009 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good for the kid. With a league wide shortage of dependable relievers and the Giants having quantity could easily see GM Sabean work his magic
by wilriv21 on Jun 29, 2009 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you smoking something?
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
by Aadik on Jun 29, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
some guy on espn said they should just give lincecum the cy young right now… haha
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 8:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Probably should..
My brother a Dbacks fan says Haren is better… I mean at least he has an argument, but really.. Timmy > All
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
by Azmanz on Jun 29, 2009 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A 0.81 WHIP is pretty sweet. How is he 6-5?
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Jun 29, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some bad offense in his starts, and at least 3 BS by his pen
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
by Azmanz on Jun 29, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ridiculously low BABIP will do that to your WHIP
by superk1ng on Jun 29, 2009 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He does have a K/BB rate at about 7 though.. low whip isn’t a fluke
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
by Azmanz on Jun 29, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Dbacks offense has been pretty bad.
Judgment Day is coming
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by Natto on Jun 29, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Started out 0-3 despite having a 1.90 ERA
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Jun 29, 2009 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forget That
me wants a playoff berth
by wilriv21 on Jun 29, 2009 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't have both?
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
by Azmanz on Jun 29, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Their Web site has this game as the thirdd top headline, under Yao possibly never playing again and Wimbledon. Their table showing stats from Timmy’s last four games is pretty epic.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=290629124
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Jun 29, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
John Boy Bowker with his third hit tonight. He is 3-3 with a walk and three ribbies
by wilriv21 on Jun 29, 2009 8:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Could you imagine if he turns into our own Brad Hawpe?
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
by Azmanz on Jun 29, 2009 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Baseball amazes me. Linden, Niekro etc etc . Then you have the Sandovals, Schierholtzs and Bowkers who sneak up the prospectdom
by wilriv21 on Jun 29, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think…
Yup!
That deffinaly gave me a chubby.
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on Jun 30, 2009 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully with better defense.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.
by marcello on Jun 30, 2009 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, he really doesn’t. At least compared to his peers.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.
by marcello on Jun 30, 2009 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he’s a sac town boy too!
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup!
It’s been a long time since we’ve had a Sacramentan on this team—about thirteen days or so.
"El once, chico. Eleven."
by Juan Primo on Jun 29, 2009 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
More importantly, he’s a true Dirtbag
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Jun 29, 2009 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why can’t a 25-man roster OF of Bowker, Rowand, Schierholtz, Winn and Torres work? The Giants could have Bowker, Rowand, Schierholtz and Winn play regularly. Torres would be the 5th OF and used defensively if necessary.
Bowker could play 5 times a week
Rowand could play 6 times
Schierholtz could play 6 times
Winn would pick up for 4/5 starts a weeks.
by wilriv21 on Jun 29, 2009 8:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
because i like Lewis better than Schierholtz
She Hate Me
by cloudydays on Jun 29, 2009 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
why can’t we get rid of torres?
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no thanks… that sounds like a dangerous job.
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because Bochy is the manager and he won’t distribute the games that evenly
Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!
by Speedforthewin on Jun 30, 2009 5:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because it would require Big Head to implement the Goofus Principle™. That is something that must be against his religion because he has refused to do it for almost 2 years running now.
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on Jun 30, 2009 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because that means you’re giving away Lewis for free which would be terrible.
Proud parent of Waldis Joaquin!
by GiantFan on Jun 30, 2009 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I say this with love
But there are a lot of goofy looking people here on McC after looking at the MCC Photo thread. I would put my picture there but (a) I don’t have any pictures and (b) I look goofier than anyone here.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 8:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
that is crap!
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can’t say that unless you post your picture t
Judgment Day is coming
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by Natto on Jun 29, 2009 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
its on there
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No barking from the dog, no smog …
LinceCain and pray for rain .... or for someone to take Zito off our hands.
by Lincecain on Jun 29, 2009 9:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Momma cooked the breakfast with no… where the hell’s the bacon?
El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."
by ResDog on Jun 30, 2009 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lincecum is now a career 4-0 with a 1.61 ERA vs. the Cardinals.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 9:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
he then pitches games 1 and 4 in NLCS
by wilriv21 on Jun 29, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point..
Games 1, 4 and 7
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
by Azmanz on Jun 29, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Geez epic postgame thread
Thats the last time I get ice cream with my family
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
by CB30 on Jun 29, 2009 9:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
My power went out during the 7th inning. Just got power back and came right back here to say Tim is God. Also, it was a miserable two hours without electricity. How do the Amish do it??
by kimmyg on Jun 29, 2009 9:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
How do the Amish do it? I think they take their hats off first.
"Are we bad? No. But right now, we are." Boulderskull, 4.16.09
by Kitspool on Jun 29, 2009 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I laughed aloud.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Jun 29, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
tim lincecum wins web gem award.. lol
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 9:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
this dodger game is like watching a train wreck. i know the dodgers are going to win, but i cant stop watching it.
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 9:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Before the Brewers/Cards part of this road trip started, I sort of figured this 7-game stretch would tell us whether the Giants were for real. Two of the better NL teams, on the road. Well, 2-2 so far and they really should be 3-1 if Saturday night’s debacle had gone differently. Two shutouts in a row, and they’ve hit the snot out of the ball the past few games. And Timmy is God.
Current status: I don’t not believe!
"Are we bad? No. But right now, we are." Boulderskull, 4.16.09
by Kitspool on Jun 29, 2009 9:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Tim Lincecum + Pablo Sandoval = Pants party…I mean, party in my pants.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Jun 29, 2009 9:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Mr. Cornball, You weren’t joking about the humidity. It was brutal on Fri/Sat.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Jun 29, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It wasn’t even that hot over the weekend. It was hotter earlier in the week. But yeah, the Midwest is humid as donkey balls.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Jun 29, 2009 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably b/c I am not used to it, but by 5pm I was gassed. We were near Cedar Rapids.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Jun 29, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair ’nough. Cedar Rapids, huh? I have never been. I only go to Iowa to go to the movies.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Jun 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You should put a towel on
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf02Sq2WZlM )
by SnowLeopard on Jun 29, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But
is he a leader?
The San Francisco Giants: Where old men go to die.
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jun 29, 2009 9:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
awesome play rockies cf
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 9:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The Giants have the second best winning percentage in the NL
At .547 with a 41-34 record. This would be good enough to lead either the Central or Eastern Divisions. Unfortunately, we play with the Dodgers, who prior to today had the NL’s best team ERA and third best team BA. With Timmy’s start (and due to our being one tenth of a run behind the Dodgers as of the last time I checked on Yahoo) we may have taken over the NL lead.
So, if Mr. Parcells is correct and we are what our record says we are, that’s pretty damn good amirite?
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
by RDreamer on Jun 29, 2009 9:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Two first names... jerk. Same goes for casey blake.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Jun 29, 2009 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tim Lincecum?
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Jun 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
True. I might try to name my first born son Lincecum.
by heimy25 on Jun 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My son will be Lincecum Timothy Lincecum G*.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Jun 29, 2009 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lincecum Heimowitz doesn’t sound good?
by heimy25 on Jun 29, 2009 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, now, you KNOW that Lewis isn't the usual spelling of the first name; Louis is.
Lewis Black notwithstanding. And yes, the rule would make Saint Louis a big, fat jerk.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Jun 29, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Confederate general Lewis Addison Armistead.
by Grant on Jun 29, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course, of course
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
by CB30 on Jun 29, 2009 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lewis of Lewis and Clark.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Kevin Frandsen, come back!
by WalrusMan on Jun 30, 2009 2:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
first name fail
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
by rotorueter on Jun 30, 2009 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Merriwether is pretty fail
as a first name
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
by RDreamer on Jun 30, 2009 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point; we should research whether having two LAST names also shows tendency toward jerkhood.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Jun 30, 2009 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point... for my argument. Would you let him babysit your daughter? Me, either.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Jun 30, 2009 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
is this guy trying to gidp?
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rockies blew a 1st and 3rd with no outs in the top of the 10th.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 10:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah against weaver too.
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like the Giants
Giants Cove: You'll be a better person for reading
by Chulk on Jun 29, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh no.. embree coming in
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 10:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
goody, he allowed Pierre to go to third
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
SEE?! SEE?!! THATS WHY WE SIGNED RENTERIA OVER HUDSON
by heimy25 on Jun 29, 2009 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We’re saving this game on ye olde DVR for that long long 4 day stretch in July when there are no Giants games.
by Merope on Jun 29, 2009 10:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
excellent idea
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
dedication since you’ll have to watch it twice
by heimy25 on Jun 29, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mr Merope’s visiting family back east so he hasn’t gotten to watch it yet.
And I’ll watch stuff over and over again, I still have 2 or 3 dodger games saved from last season.
by Merope on Jun 29, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
can we add delgado and vlad guerrero to the. ‘likely on the juice when they were good’ list?
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 10:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
no doubt about it. add Ortiz too. and Thome.
by heimy25 on Jun 29, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
its hilarious how many teams got ripped off giving those guys huge contracts.
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The switch from old to young means the switch from juice to no juice.
by heimy25 on Jun 29, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what about barry zito?
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe. but his performance started to decline when all the investigations started. and really all he lost was a few mph off his fastball.
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah
Judgment Day is coming
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by Natto on Jun 29, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah probably not. i mean if he was mixed up with balco labs, we would have found out by now.
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes. Delgado was a beast when he was healthy/juiced/whatever though. I watched his four homer game on MLB Network a few months ago. Cot damn.
Supporting San Francisco Dugout since 2005 and Manny Burriss since 2006, and bringing you all your California League needs since 2009.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 29, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always had this fantasy
that if Sabes had just done what I wanted him to after the 2003 season (give the damn catcher job to Yorvit and the damn closer job to Nathan), then we could have used the money we saved in not signing Matheny and Blownitez to have Delgado batting behind Bonds in 2005-2007.
by SnowLeopard on Jun 29, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t really care.
Judgment Day is coming
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by Natto on Jun 29, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about Griffey? I hate to say it and admit it, but yeah why not
by heimy25 on Jun 29, 2009 10:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
this came up earlier. i think its suspicious his body didn’t hold up and his power numbers came way down.
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s what used to happen to players in their mid to late 30s.
El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."
by ResDog on Jun 30, 2009 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t he get hurt during his early 30’s though?
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
by Azmanz on Jun 30, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d bet on that too.
Supporting San Francisco Dugout since 2005 and Manny Burriss since 2006, and bringing you all your California League needs since 2009.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 29, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't know or care
but I just want to add: Bonds was/is/always better
by superk1ng on Jun 29, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no one was scarier than barry bonds.
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a big pet peave of mine that, when it was all speculation, the talk was all “look how Barry bulked up” but there was no mention of others who also bulked up (Griffey and Clemens were the first two that always came to my mind).
Anyway, I actually don’t care that much about steroids. But I do care about inconsistent standards.
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
by thehavenot on Jun 29, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
People looked at Bonds because of how he treated the media. Fans tend to believe what is written in the papers or what they read online so “Bonds is an asshole” means “Bonds is an asshole” to the average fan even though Bonds was great with kids.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Griffey was kind of a dick too. He just was more marketable for his smile and seemed like a good guy. But he’s never been all that peachy to the media either.
by Hobbes2d on Jun 30, 2009 1:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah and no mention of any other sports. like the nfl.
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it also makes me very happy that all those jackasses with the asterisk signs in boston and new york have to deal with the fact that arod and manny were doing the same thing.
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
anyone else waiting to see the irony that will be Dodger fans cheering manny after so many years of calling out Giants Fans for cheering Barry.
by beat_la415 on Jun 29, 2009 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looking at the Box Score on the homepage
…think we had more than 2 hits tonight.
by Link on Jun 29, 2009 10:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
WTF?!?!
Chris Haft says the Giants will owe Barry Zito $20 million in 2013???
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 10:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Only paid him 7 in his first year..
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
by Azmanz on Jun 29, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How can the Giants afford Lincecum when they are paying Zito $20 million in 2013??
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
…by using some of the other $80 million in the budget (or whatever it is)?
GROUGTHINK ALERT
by groug on Jun 29, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What if Lincecum’s agent goes to the Giants and says “Zito is being paid $20 million. We want $25 million per year.”? (and if you go by salaries, if Zito “deserves” $20 million, Tim should get $50 million)
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Possible answer: backload his contract
Realistic answer: 4 years is a lot of time in sports
by SeeingStars on Jun 29, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Baggs speculated he could make $10 million next year.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really? That’s way more than Hamels got this year, and his first three years were pretty similar to Lincecum’s.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 30, 2009 3:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
Did Cole Hamels lead the league in strike outs twice while winning the Cy Young award (twice?)
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
by Azmanz on Jun 30, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, but he did have a career 132 ERA+ and 3.60 K/BB, and lead the league in WHIP last year.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 30, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the giants will have to pay lincecum market value. not value based on team salaries.
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah better win now and sell the team like the marlins do.. haha
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah. They’ll be fine and make it work. I don’t think they’ll let Tim get away. He literally IS their franchise.
by Hobbes2d on Jun 30, 2009 1:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea I imagine Lincecum pays for himself.
by SeeingStars on Jun 30, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Worrying about what Tim will make is like worrying about what Bonds made.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
by rotorueter on Jun 30, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Contract
07:$10M
08:$14.5M
09:$18.5M
10:$18.5M
11:$18.5M
12:$19M
13:$20M
14:$18M club option ($7M buyout)
My good lord.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Kevin Frandsen, come back!
by WalrusMan on Jun 30, 2009 2:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those with Saturday tickets
You have Lincecum vs. Oswalt.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 11:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I love that matchup. Oswalt is the pitcher that Lincecum reminded me most of when he came up.
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
by CB30 on Jun 29, 2009 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately, it’s a Saturday day game so we have FOX blackout.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
we have to watch it on fox?
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No we get the Fox game, which will be either Mets-Philles, Dodgers-Padres or Tigers-Twins
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
so um. what are you saying here? we can’t watch it at all?
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know. Some schedules lists that game as a CSN-BA game but usually 1PM games aren’t allowed to be televised. July 4th could be different.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
FOX HATES AMERICA
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
by CB30 on Jun 29, 2009 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
damn, I was thinking of going to the game on Sunday.
by Merope on Jun 30, 2009 7:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i can’t believe any dodger fans are left in the stands
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 11:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That inning was scary..
Good thing the Dodgers suck
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
by Azmanz on Jun 29, 2009 11:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s great to have live baseball at 11PM (and it’s great to have Extra Innings package).
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and I can’t believe at the age of 81 that Vin Scully could do 13 innings of baseball by himself.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed on both counts.
Go team that is playing the team that will eventually be the closest competitors to the Giants! And I really mean it!
by Grant on Jun 29, 2009 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no way..rockies are not for real
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you get to choose who’s broadcast team you listen to?
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
by Azmanz on Jun 29, 2009 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do. I have Directv. I rather listen to Vin than the Rockies crew.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
where do the dodgers get all these good pitchers?
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 11:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They’re not good, just lucky. I still don’t think the Giants will catch the Dodgers
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
one thing the LA organization does very well is have their pitchers pitch inside, change the batters eye level
by wilriv21 on Jun 29, 2009 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did Rick Honeycutt do that as a pro?? He’s the Dodgers pitching coach.
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
throughout the many decades I have followed them. From way back and then Perranoski was pitching coach and now Honeycutt
by wilriv21 on Jun 29, 2009 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hank sez:
TRADE CHATTER: Giants scout Paul Turco was seen at Monday’s White Sox-Indians game, possibly looking at Tribe first baseman Victor Martinez, whom the Giants are thought to admire.
by wilriv21 on Jun 29, 2009 11:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
WUUUUTTTT
That would take out whole minor league system to get him.. But it would be nice to see him catch half the games
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by Azmanz on Jun 29, 2009 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they get Victory Martinez, would that mean the end of Bengie as a Giant (after this season)??
by SFGuy on Jun 29, 2009 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Victory Martinez
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 29, 2009 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i like it if he plays for the giants
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by Bond16 on Jun 29, 2009 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs