Fred Lewis vs. Nate Schierholtz

We were born in the same hospital. Also, he is a better baseball player than Fred Lewis.

…even though giving up Lewis would make me sad.

Schierholtz:because:

• The fact that he looks better at hitting LHP is exciting and bodes well for him being a productive everyday player
• The fact that he plays RF leaves LF open to aquire a bigger bat. (Also, I could imagine Nate in FL, but not Fred in RF.)
• The fact that his footspeed in underrated and approaches Fred’s.
• The fact that I like his bat to produce more consistent power
• The fact that he has a cooler nickname

1) Mainly because I think Bowkermania would work rather well in LF.
2) And even is Bowkermania as issues LF in Mays Field is best corner outfield spot to hide a questionable glove thus making it easier to get a free agent up grade- should it me needed.

At the moment, you have to give the edge to Schierholtz considering he’s younger, has more power, and is on a hot streak. I haven’t given up on Lewis though. If only he could get regular playing time again…

Freddie is kind of old to be still developing his basic baseball skills. Nate is just a better all-around baseball player with more upside than Lewis, at this point.

Fred simply doesn’t have enough cola for left field.

I voted for Fred, mostly because the lack of plate discipline up and down the lineup drives me crazy. If the starting lineup were constructed differently, I may have voted for Nate. Honestly, I don’t have a whole lot of hope that either one will be much of an asset to the team long-term.

It’s really close and my brain says Schierholtz (VERY slightly, like by a millimeter) though I’d feel better about it if he didn’t have like a .020 isoD this year. I mean, there was a lot of discussion of Fred’s BABIP last year and how if it went down to normal levels, he’d be hitting .260-270. The difference there is that if Nate’s batting average drops below .300, all of a sudden, his OBP is dangerously low too. It’s easy right now to say that this is an easy decision or whatever but come on people, Nate is not actually a true talent .318 hitter. He’s got a .442 BABIP this month. I think we all know that’s not sustainable.

Their prOPS lines are currently .261/.347/.393 for Fred and .270/.300/.418 for Nate. I don’t know if it could be closer. I guess I’ll go with Fred because he needs some love and I think the on-base difference is important. Remember when no one cared that much that Bengie had one walk all season because he was hitting .350? Remember how much that sucked when he came back down to Earth?

You pick which one is traded… you can only keep one… don’t do what Donny Don’t does…

just because I think he’s taking up a roster spot that should go to Bowker. Yes, this is based almost entirely on the last few weeks, but the team has a chance to compete for the playoffs. If Lewis had the ceiling of RafRod then I’d be more worried, but at this point he sucks, I prefer Nate, and I want to see what Bowker can do.

clicked Schierholtz because the question in the post said to pick which one is traded… then the question in the poll suggests I’m only able to keep the one I click.

Anyway, I meant that I would trade Schierholtz, though I think that’s largely due to the framing of the question. I feel like another GM would probably be likely to give us more for Lewis, and that would be enough to make me trade him over Nate. I guess I’m just swayed by the shiny OBP, but I think that would make more sense to hang onto. Still, I kinda like both players even though it’s hard for me to imagine a really good team could start both and be productive offensively.

The correct answer, of course, is to keep both and politely ask Rich Aurilia to retire immediately, at which time he will be offered the bench coach/front office/community relations position with the team.

i like schierhotz but i think lewis has more upside. unless nate starts hitting for power, he is never going to be much more than he is right now. and i don’t think that is enough production from a corner outfielder.

but it doesn’t feel right. My heart is easily swayed by the “ooh shiny” of Nate’s recent efforts. I feel like once teams realize that Nate will swing at everything, they’ll start junkballing him, like they did with Pablo. I have no faith in Nate to adjust like Pablo, though, and then we’ll throw him in the Bengie/Uribe/Pedro pile. My brain says “take the more sustainable approach!!”, so that’s what I did.

Without a doubt!

I’ll take Nate. More power, the same speed, and a cannon for an arm that can play in LF or RF. Hopefully he can learn to walk more in the next three years when he is FL’s age to get his OBP up

Schierholtz – no question- better fielder, better hitter, period

Schierholtz – he’s younger.

Question:

Game on the line, tying run at 3rd, less than 2 outs…who would you rather have at bat?

Yeah, me too. Bye, Fred.

Package Fred Lewis with a reliever and a pitching prospect for the bat we need.

If Winn goes to Altanta who plays CF if Rowand is injured?
Torres
Copeland
Timpner
Bueller

I just looked at stats over june (50 PA min)..

RK PLAYER…………… AB……2B…. HR…..RBI….BB BA OBP SLG OPS
1 Ichiro Suzuki……….104…….6………1…….. 2……4 .404 .431 .529 .960
2 Pablo Sandoval……87……..9………8…….18….11 .402 .465 .782 1.246
3 Scott Rolen………….78……..7………2…….11…..4 .397 .435 .564 .999
4 Nate Schierholtz…..56………4………3……. 8……2 .393 .417 .625 1.042

He’s younger, is a good defender and he’s younger.

Nate hasn’t had the ABs that Lewis has had in the big leagues and I think we kind of know what we have in Freddie. With Nate…. who knows what we got unless we give him the same chance to be a full-time player that Lewis has had.

Would love to see an outfield of Bowker, Rowand, and Nate….. with Winn and Torres on the bench!

He’s younger, he’s played on a big stage in Beijing, and he’s a twin for Randy Couture

I’m done with Lewis after he dropped that pop up against the Brewers. That was too much for me to handle.

I actually like the notion that Lewis can work a count, which is rare for this team. That’s his value to this team, but I’d be interested in knowing if anyone has looked up the average number of pitches per player (average of pitches Lewis sees versus the average Nate sees… Maybe even how many someone like Panda or Winn or Renteria sees).

I’m going to avoid this thread!

1. Rowand CF
2. Winn LF
3. Sandoval 3B
4. Molina C
5. Schierholtz RF
6. Renteria SS
7. Ishikawa 1B
8. Uribe 2B
9. Lincecum P.

But that’s because I have no memory beyond the last month.

I was real excited when Lewis had his September call-up in 06. The stats say 5 for 11 but it impressed me way more than that after years of waiting. I want to keep him longer, and I wonder if the bunion is affecting how he moves and fields. And if it will ever get better, foot injuries never get a rest it seems. The lousy results against lefties are a real problem too.

As for having too many outfielders—remember, Nate can play thir rrrrr aaarrghh
/strangled by masked intruder leaping thru monitor/

when it doubt, take the younger dude. I think the trade value of Fred Lewis is on the order of 2 or 3 boxes of batting practice baseballs, used, but hey, it’s your poll.

But the problem is that you’re assuming that they have the same trade value. There’s no way that’s true – I’m sure that Nate and his shiny AVG would get us a lot more than Lewis.

Randy Winn.

Yes, I know veteran no-trade clause blah blah blah. Stop ruining my rosterbation fantasy.

I like Randy Winn. But put Nate in RF and send Winn somewhere for some not-horrible 1B or 2B (presumably with a bullpen guy and some money).

Let Fred and/or Bowker platoon/rotate with Torres. Send Molina away and let Pablo catch (and probably make all-star games) until someone else comes along in a year or two, at which point Ishi or Uribe gets dumped.

QED

Fred Lewis’ vision is screwed up. He can’t “see ball hit ball.” Rather, he guesses on every pitch, and defaults to not swinging at all. This strategy has worked out OK thus far, but it clearly manifests itself as his high pitch per PA, his high BB rate, and his high Kc rate.

This, combined with his perceived Marvin Benarditis, make me believe that he suffers from poor vision, and make me want Nate to get the bulk of the at-bats and innings in LF.

Winn is another story…

i smell a trade coming…

But I’m going for bigger risk/bigger upside with Nate.

Also, all you Fredophobes can STFU AND STFD.