Giants' Player Worth Through June
by kenshin1 on Jun 27, 2009 6:05 PM PDT
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Here's part 3 of my monthly look at the contributions in win values of the Giants position players and starting pitchers.
As many of you know, the win value stat represents the latest, and by far the best IMO method to evaluate players. Using the best available offensive stat (wOBA), defensive stat (UZR) and pitching stat (FIP), win values literally allows one to assess how many wins a player has been worth compared to an equivalent minor league replacement (think Willie Bloomquest). Additionally, since major league teams pay roughly 5 million/ win on the FA market, win values enables us to think of player value in monetary terms (which is ridiculously cool and intuitive). Since MGL generously allowed access of UZR to fangraphs win values are now updated continuously throughout the season. So how have the Giants done up to June 28th?
Disclaimer: UZR requires a large sample size (probably 1-2 seasons) before it is terribly accurate. 2 months of data still contains a tremendous amount of noise.
|
Player |
Defensive Runs Above Average (RAA) |
Offensive RAA |
Win Value Total |
Delta Win Value since May |
Monetary Value (in millions) |
PA |
|
Sandoval |
-2.3 |
+15 |
+2.1 |
+1.4 |
9.4 |
271 |
|
Rowand |
+.1 |
+7.6 |
+1.8 |
+1.1 |
8.1 |
251 |
|
Torres |
+2.9 |
+3.7 |
+.8 |
+.4 |
3.6 |
53 |
|
Winn |
+6.7 |
-5.7 |
+.8 |
-.1 |
3.5 |
288 |
|
Molina |
|
-7.6 |
+.6 |
+.2 |
2.8 |
266 |
|
Lewis |
+1.9 |
-2.0 |
+.6 |
+.1 |
1.9 |
220 |
|
Ishikawa |
+4.7 |
-2.0 |
+.4 |
+.3 |
1.8 |
150 |
|
Uribe |
-.9 |
-1.6 |
+.3 |
+.3 |
1.4 |
137 |
|
Nate Sch. |
+2.8 |
-1.2 |
+.3 |
+.8 |
1.3 |
111 |
|
Frandsen |
1.1 |
-5.2 |
-.3 |
NA |
-1.3 |
28 |
|
Renteria |
-3.6 |
-11.6 |
-.3 |
-.5 |
-1.4 |
266 |
|
Aurilia |
+2.5 |
-7.8 |
-.4 |
+.3 |
-1.7 |
104 |
|
Velez |
-1.5 |
-4.0 |
-.4 |
0 |
-2.0 |
39 |
|
Burriss |
-3.9 |
-13.0 |
-.9 |
-.8 |
-3.9 |
220 |
|
Pitcher |
|
|
|
|
|
IP |
|
Lincecum |
|
|
+4.3 |
+1.3 |
19.2 |
105 |
|
Cain |
|
|
+1.6 |
+.8 |
7.1 |
101 |
|
Johnson |
|
|
+1.0 |
+.5 |
4.5 |
82 |
|
Zito |
|
|
+.7 |
+.2 |
2.9 |
83 |
|
Sanchez |
|
|
+.5 |
0 |
2.4 |
65 |
Observations:
1.Tim Lincecum- To quote a reputable Giants source, "Tim Lincecum is good. It’s almost like he should get some sort of award. Something like: "Award for Guy Who Throws Good" or something." He has been unquestionably the best Giants' player this season by a margin of 2 wins. 2 wins is the difference between a league average player and a AAA scrub.
2. Panda Sandoval- Sandoval had an great month. I recently went into how unique a hitter he is at a none-mccovey chronicles site . I don't know if he can sustain his approach over the long haul but he performed brilliantly in June.
3. Aaron Rowand- Rowand sweats pure testosterone and eats grittiness for breakfast. I hate this contract and the thought process behind it but he has been pretty good (even his defense!) in 2009.
4. Edgar Renteria- Renteria is just killing us with his bat. -11.6 runs below average is positively Burris-esque. I like this contract and the thought process behind it but he has been pretty bad (even his defense!) in 2009.
5. Kevin Frandsen- I included Frandsen mainly to annoy his supporters. He hit poorly in his 28 PA stint in the majors this season but even Albert Pujols can hit poorly over so small a stretch
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3. Aaron Rowand- Rowand sweats pure testosterone and eats grittiness for breakfast. I hate this contract and the thought process behind it but he has been pretty good (even his defense!) in 2009.
4. Edgar Renteria- Renteria is just killing us with his bat. -11.6 runs below average is positively Burris-esque. I like this contract and the thought process behind it but he has been pretty bad (even his defense!) in 2009.
I love these two, they are so right and exactly how I feel. But somehow we’re the stupid ones.
Also, I think Pablo can sustain with his approach. I have no reason why I think this, other than I think this.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at second.
by marcello on Jun 27, 2009 7:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It is clear from this chart that Fred Lewis is the problem.
Osiris, lord of the dead, and relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants.
by neurofarm on Jun 27, 2009 7:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
My eyes must be deceiving me, but...
Has Torres really been that good?
by SeeingStars on Jun 27, 2009 9:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He’s performed ridiculously well in a very small sample size and he’s good defensively, but there are some significant warning signs wrt his hitting.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 27, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope, he's awesome.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
by Azmanz on Jun 28, 2009 1:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is like a better Uribe. Used in the proper way at the proper times he can be impressive. If you are asking him to carry the main part of the load your asking for trouble.
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on Jun 28, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's probably not that good
but still, even on a good team (with a good offense) a player like him could definitely have a role as a late innings defensive replacement/pinch runner and occasional pinch hitter. it’s nice that he’s been giving the giants a little more than that so far, but i wouldn’t expect that to continue indefinitely.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Jun 28, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol Burriss
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 27, 2009 10:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Winn the second half player
He has always been a second half player, find a good first half player, let him play until the allstar break, then start Winn after the allstar break.
by bradleybear on Jun 27, 2009 11:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
How is Win Value figured again? I don’t get how it correlates to the offensive and defensive numbers posted up there
by m34josh on Jun 28, 2009 12:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
10 runs...
is a win. The reason the math doesn’t add up in the above chart is that I did not include the positional adjustment (which IS included in the win value calculation)
Flossing a dead horse
by kenshin1 on Jun 28, 2009 4:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, I wonder what Winn’s defense would look like in LF all year
by m34josh on Jun 28, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Judgment Day is coming
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by Natto on Jun 28, 2009 1:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
NICE!
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on Jun 28, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Renteria = Vizquel – (suits + paintings + glove)
Fred Lewis can stand under my umbrella.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
We are at war with Los Angeles. We have always been at war with Los Angeles.
Lowering the Quality of Internet Discourse Since 1985™
by S.F. Giangst on Jun 29, 2009 6:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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