Bumgarner and Villalona playing in the Futures Game
I find this especially exciting because this will be the first time I get to see Bumgarner!
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I saw Bocock play at the futures game in SF a couple of years ago.
by xanthan on Jun 25, 2009 10:11 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The future is…not yet!
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by EliminateMe on Jun 25, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sosa was on that team too. Looked good that day
by m34josh on Jun 25, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah him and Sosa. I was just thinking about the reps the Giants have sent the last few years…last year it was Sandoval and Villalona, the year before Sosa and Bocock. Upgrades for sure.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 25, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pucetas went last year or the year before…I forget which. I want to say last year. He looked good.
by Hobbes2d on Jun 25, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He made it to the majors!
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by groug on Jun 25, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still have the roster list for that game. Here are some of the players from that game: Joba Chamberlain, Matt Garza, Clayton Kershaw, Evan Longoria, Jay Bruce, Jacoby Ellsbury, Colby Rasmus, Justin Upton, Elvis Andrus, Geovany Soto, Joey Votto, Wladimir Balentien.
by SFGuy on Jun 25, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Geovany Soto uses marijuana. That is definitely a PED. He should be suspended and forced to watch “Reefer Madness” for 50 straight days.
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by rxmeister on Jun 26, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sweet, I’ll be watching this shit.
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by jponry on Jun 25, 2009 10:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
will “this shit” be on TV?
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by UnleashTheGore on Jun 25, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They show the Futures Games on ESPN.
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by Natto on Jun 25, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pablo & Angel were on last year
by SoFa King Mike on Jun 25, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stupid watermark
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 25, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ZOMG, the possibilities
Buster, Roger, Thomas, Brandon, Nick, Madison, Tim2 in SF together with these two in the near future….
by SoFa King Mike on Jun 25, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
prospect pr0n
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 25, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh and add Chris Dominguez to that
/fap
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 25, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pabs makes Angel look small..
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by Azmanz on Jun 26, 2009 1:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you. Perhaps this will end the ZOMG ANGEL VILLALONA IS FAT garbage.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 26, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ZOMG PABLO SANDOVAL IS SO SUPER SUPER FAT THAT HE MAKES FATTIE VILLALONA LOOK THIN
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by groug on Jun 26, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many times are we gonna see Big V in the Futures Game. I would have liked to have seen Neal. Or Buster.
by Hobbes2d on Jun 25, 2009 10:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He’s been a pick twice. It’s not uncommon to have a guy go twice. Elvis Andrus appeared in back to back games recently. Shin-Soo Choo went three times! Beat that!
Plus each team gets one US rep and one world rep, as well as one P and one position player. Right now, MadBum is the top Giants prospect born in the States (and top pitching prospect), and Villalona is the top international prospect. Plus I feel he was sort of shut out of the Cal League All Star game, so this makes up for it.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 25, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think thats true
Looking through the list of the world team I didnt see a rep from Oakland or Baltimore (might have been more too, those were just some I looked for)
So I personally would have prefered Posey or Neal, but I definitely dont mind getting to see Angel play.
by kvdp12 on Jun 25, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s strange.
The reason that Pablo and Villalona went last year was that Schierholtz was the pick for the Giants. He did not end up going, and Pablo went in his place.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 25, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Schierholtz didn’t go because he was getting ready for the Olympics no? And why does everyone keep forgetting that Pucetas went to the Futures Game too? Is he the most forgotten guy in the entire Giants system or something?!
by Hobbes2d on Jun 25, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah the Olympics kept him out of it.
I’m guilty as charged. I kind of cooled off of Pucetas after his meh AFL performance and I wasn’t super high on him to begin with.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 25, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the rule is that each team gets two regardless of whether they play for the U.S. or World team
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jun 25, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not quite right
The rule is that each team must have at least 1 player total, and no more than 2 players max (1 US and 1 World). Since MadBum was picked for the USA that aced out Buster. Check it again and you’ll see that Oakland and Baltimore do have 1 rep each. It’ll be strange if MadBum has to pitch to AnVil – I hope it doesn’t happen.
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by Fla-Giant on Jun 25, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pitt has two on the US team, I believe.
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by haverecords on Jun 26, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As I noted below, the A’s, Orioles, and Pirates all have both their reps on the US team, while the Brewers, Mariners, Indians, Yankees, and Mets. The rule is simply 2 reps, doesn’t matter which roster they’re on.
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by Roger on Jun 27, 2009 4:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, I know its not uncommon to see a guy get picked to go more than once, I just selfishly wish the Giants would have sent Neal or Posey. Would have been nice to see either one of them in a showcase game vs what are a compilation of some of the better prospects in their age group. To see Buster or Neal have an AB against someone like Hector Rondon would be awesome IMO.
by Hobbes2d on Jun 25, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d love to see Neal go and hit a HR so his value can continue to be inflated
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jun 25, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just think he has become overrated as a prospect based on a half season in a hitter’s league and I’d like to see that helium continue so that the Giants can sell him high
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jun 25, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he plays in a pitchers park
and he is destroying the ball at home
by superk1ng on Jun 25, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t see how you can say it’s based on a half season’s work. It’s predominantly based on the scouting reports on him out of HS before he got hurt, with his increasingly productive work since recovering from surgery last year and this year raising the specter that those tools are now translating into game skills and productivity. I documented this more fully in the other post, but his work from the time he was an 18 year old in the NWL have been whetting our appetites for this break out. We’re very likely to get some very cheap, very great productivity out of him in the next 6 years or so.
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by Roger on Jun 25, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think “very likely” is a pretty big overstatement
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jun 25, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe you are very likely wrong about that.
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by Roger on Jun 26, 2009 5:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
outside of maybe the top 10 or 20 prospects in baseball it is pretty foolish to say that anybody currently playing in A ball is very likely to provide some very cheap, very great productivity out of him in the next 6 years or so, that’s just not how it works with minor league baseball players.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jun 26, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quite true. Nonetheless, I’m just gonna sit here being right on this one.
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by Roger on Jun 26, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m surprised Buster’s not there, but like any All Star team alot of it has to do with logistics of getting representatives on there. The two catchers for the US team are Jason Castro and Tyler Flowers — both coming from really prospect barren systems. Houston’s system is so bad, I can imagine Castro being the very first player inked onto a roster and just building around him.
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by Roger on Jun 25, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As soon as they picked MadBum they couldn’t take another American Giant. The rules allow a max of 1 player per major league team per side (USA or World) – so each team can have at most 1 guy playing for the US and 1 for the World. But you’re right. Posey’s numbers are significantly better than Castro’s in the (about) 60 games that he played in the Cal League before being promoted to AA for the last 14 games.
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by Fla-Giant on Jun 25, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s not quite right. They can have two max, but it doesn’t matter which team they’re on. Take a closer look at the rosters and you’ll see that the A’s, Orioles, and Pirates all have both their reps on the US team, while the Brewers, Mariners, Indians, Yankees, and Mets all have two on the World roster.
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by Roger on Jun 26, 2009 5:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
By the way, if you listen to BA’s Futures Game podcast, they talk extensively about the Giants. In fact, direct quote from John Manual — “the hardest part about putting together this year’s Future’s Game roster was only 2 Giants.” And they go into some depth on why Posey’s not there and Villalona is, which mostly hinged not on the US Catcher situation so much as the World 1B situation. What it came down to is when Yonder Alonso broke his hand, the corner IF situation of the World roster was so thin they felt forced to put Villalona on the World roster, even though Matt Eddy said he would rather have put both Posey and Alderson on the roster than Villalona. Manual said at one point that the Giants could easily have had 5 people on the roster without the various rules constraints. That 5th player is left up our imagination.
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by Roger on Jun 26, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very likely to be Neal.
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by haverecords on Jun 26, 2009 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s encouraging news.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 27, 2009 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jason Heyward made the US roster. Now he and Mad Bum can continue their epic battle.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 25, 2009 12:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
How do you figure that?
They’re on the same team – Heyward won’t be hitting against MadBum.
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by Fla-Giant on Jun 25, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Tim Alderson when all his numbers better than Bumgarner – not right
by SF Fan on Jun 25, 2009 4:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They’re bringing him up for the actual All Star Game.
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by Natto on Jun 25, 2009 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm
So far this year Bumgarner has a combined ERA of 1.79 to Alderson’s 2.93.
Since the promotion to AA it’s Madbum 1.96, Alderson 2.22.
In almost identical IP on the season, here are the two lines:
Bumgarner, 70.1 IP, 55H, 22R, 14ER, 1HR, 16BB, 61K, .215 BAA, 0.72 GO/FO
Alderson 70.2 IP, 71H, 24R, 23ER, 6HR, 10BB, 57K, .257 BAA, 1.07 GO/FO
Quite close across the board (with Alderson’s HR total probably being the most significant difference in terms of their respective ERAs), but I don’t see much of a case for saying all of Alderson’s numbers are better. Tim’s BB, and GO/AO are slightly better, but all other categories fall to Bumgarner’s favor.
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by Roger on Jun 25, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Besides HRs, the other glaring difference is Earned Runs – T2 has given up over 60% more than MadBum. Wow, I didn’t realize we’ve been playing really crappy D behind MadBum.
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by Fla-Giant on Jun 25, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He falls apart when someone makes an error! He can’t handle adversity!!
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by rxmeister on Jun 26, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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