Fun Numbers
by KingofDucks1987 on Jun 25, 2009 12:25 AM PDT
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- 1st place in the National League Wild Card.
- 2nd best record in the National League.
- 4th best record in Major League Baseball.
- Best home record in Major League Baseball.
- Best team ERA in Major League Baseball.
- Most strikeouts (for pitchers) in Major League Baseball.
- 3rd in BAA in Major League Baseball.
- 2nd in Complete Games in Major League Baseball.
- 1st in Shutouts in Major League Baseball.
- Least Earned Runs given up in Major League Baseball.
- Least Runs given up in Major League Baseball.
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Here's a fun question.
Would you take Manny now?
Have to admit, I’d probably do it. And I didn’t want him in the offseason.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
Still depends how much.
Prospective parent of new pick, Zack Wheeler. Projectable Righty stolen from the braves. Of course, I stalk my son's myspace: http://www.myspace.com/zackwheelerbaseball
"Obviously I’m not doing things like going toe-to-toe with a ninja. Find me a ninja, for one."--Brian Wilson
by haverecords on Jun 25, 2009 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I say let him get some at-bats in Fresno first. He needs to learn how to bunt!
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Jun 25, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
forget Manny
Give me Juan Pierre!
co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
Ishikawa, let the boy hit against lefties.
CB30=Molly Moper
Seriously, can’t the world’s most dominating pitching ever be enough for you?
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
They do not have the best home record in baseball (Dodgers and Red Sox) nor do they have the least earned runs (Dodgers) or least runs given up (Dodgers)
And 7 games over .500...
…for the first time since 2005!
Fred Lewis can stand under my umbrella.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
We are at war with Los Angeles. We have always been at war with Los Angeles.
Lowering the Quality of Internet Discourse Since 1985™
but, godwilling
not buyers
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
There's 3 ways to do something: the right way, the wrong way, and the Max Power/ Ginats Way...
by natteringnabob on Jun 25, 2009 6:25 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm more worried about what Satan wills
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
A +50 difference ( or something like that) between runs expect to score and allow VS. the actual runs scored and allowed will do that for you.
BTW Walrus man it is good to see The Count get out and about!
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
if the difference is that large, and has been sustained through this many games, it only means the runs expected formula is way off.
SO FUCKING TRUE!
I hate that crap.
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
Off the top of my pointy little head...
it could just as easily be "favorable" result in frequency of disturbing of the unexpected wind fall, as well as if could be the lack of a key player having a train wreck of a season, or because a number of lesser player producing a bit above expected mean. Any combonation of the three would create the difference between expect production and standings we see in the newspaper today.
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
This
The pythag calc’s are totally based off the assumption that the frequency of scoring is somewhat consistent.
And as such, are subject to error. Every year there are several teams that significantly deviate from their pythag.
by FairweatherFan on Jun 25, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Every year there are several teams that significantly deviate from their pythag
Well, if teams never deviated from their pythag, we wouldn’t need it in the first place. The question is whether that deviation is merely a result of fluky run distribution, or of actual talent. In other words, whether or not it’s sustainable. Arizona won 91 games in 2007 inspite of a negetive run differential, and some thought that it was because of good team chemistry, good managing, etc. But the next year, with a very very similar team and the same manager, their real record and their Pythagorean one were identical. So was the pythag “wrong” in 2007, or did they just get lucky?
Now, good managing could definitely help a team overplay their pythag. For example, good bullpen management – like making sure the bad relievers never pitch in high leverage situations – doesn’t help the run differential, but does improve the team’s chances of winning, which makes the team likely to overplay its pythag. But in many, or probably most cases, it’s just luck.
Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.
:-(
I've often seen positive Pythag deviation attributed to chemistry, managing, etc.
I’ve even seen some very smart analysts whom I respect make that assertion, but I’ve never seen any actual evidence for it.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
Certainly the bullpen thing makes sense
and it’s really just an extension of what I list below – the awful 4th/5th starter syndrom
by FairweatherFan on Jun 25, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, its certainly most likely luck
However a low scoring team like the Giants is much more likely IMO to deviate from their pythag than a high scoring team.
If you envisioned a team that, when they won – was a lot of low scoring games but – when they lost, got blown out – could easily have a neg run differential despite having the talent to win all of those games repeatably.
Imagine, if you will a situation where you have 1/2 the rotation that is awesome (Cain, Lincecum, Johnson half the time) and another half that is awful (which the Giant’s thankfully don’t have this year).
Combine that w/ a lousy offense, and you are gonna win a lot of those Caincecumson games while getting blown out in the 4/5 slots.
Just ‘cause your season has a neg run differential doesn’t mean you got “lucky” in the Cainceumson games.
However, certainly – those instances are going to be rare. Scoring runs “at the right times” isn’t really a skill – but winning games by a little while losing them by a lot can definitely be attributed to talent.
by FairweatherFan on Jun 25, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
FWIW
The ’08 giants, who I think were slightly in this category outperformed their pythag significantly.
by FairweatherFan on Jun 25, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I just noticed something weird...
I was looking at this for the 2008 season, and discovered that if I broke pitchers into two groups “good starters” (Tim, Matt) and “Bad Starters” (the rest) the runs allowed / game works out to almost even.
In fact, the “Good Starters” actually gave up .03 r/g MORE than the bad starters.
Did our bullpen suck THAT much last year ?
by FairweatherFan on Jun 25, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
Runs allowed per game in Zito’s starts were actually lower than everyone else except for Lincecum.
Palmer/Misch were the worst @ 4.5 r/g
by FairweatherFan on Jun 25, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
oops, just realized I'm an idiot
One minute..
by FairweatherFan on Jun 25, 2009 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Worst team in baseball.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
those numbers are good hype for management
It goes to show ya, really good pitching can keep even a really crappy hitting team in contention. I want to see more schierholtz and ishi.
Scott Boras has added those to the binder
For when he shops the Giants in 2017 (after the golden years 2010-2015)
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
Giants: Best team in the NL
(moved here from my fanpost because it seemed a better fit)
Amazingly enough, the Giants are currently the best team in the entire National League. I arrive at this conclusion through the application of two simple bits of logic:
1. The Giants have a better record than any other team except the Dodgers. They’re ahead of the Cards by one percentage point (.549 to .548).
2. The Dodgers are by definition the worst team in the world, and therefore also in the league
How ‘bout that! Who here expected that in late June, the Giants would be the best team in the senior circuit? As a wise man once said, that’s not me talking, that’s science.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.
by EliminateMe on Jun 25, 2009 9:27 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Whatever you do, don’t congratulate yourself too much, or berate yourself either. Your choices are half chance. So are everybody else’s.
Saving countless runs with my Brian Horwitz
OK, who replaced lyricalkiller with a pithy quote bot?
Judgment Day is coming
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"It seems to be a law, inflexible and inexorable, that he who will not risk cannot win."
— John Paul Jones
(The one who founded the U.S. and Russian navies, not the one who performed “Louie Louie.” Just to be clear.)
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Jun 25, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
2nd BEST 3B Batting Average!!
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Jun 25, 2009 10:34 AM PDT reply actions
Let me show you my fun numbers...
-28th in runs scored
-30th in HR’s
-30th in BB’s (by 22)
-30th in OBP
-28th in SLG
-29th in OPS
Semi-proud adoptive father of Scott Barnes.
That’s the opposite of fun!
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, coming soon to a minor league near you.
by EliminateMe on Jun 25, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Who do you think you are, Bill James? I don’t need numbers to watch baseball.
Saving countless runs with my Brian Horwitz
by lyricalkiller on Jun 25, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
They could bascially play .500 ball the rest of the way and finish with 85 games. That kinda blows me away.
At the start of the season, 85 wins would have been something we’d have considered a success. Now we’re getting to the point where .500 ball the rest of the way would be kind of a downer.
My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman
is there a strength of schedule number out there that compares the difficulty of who we have played so far vs. who we will play later?
Les Plack = more chicks
I am running roughshod over the dingerz.exe league. the dl is trying to jinx me, but im too guile-y.
by Headhunter Rollins on Jun 25, 2009 12:27 PM PDT reply actions
Here you go. We’re toward the bottom.
Saving countless runs with my Brian Horwitz
by lyricalkiller on Jun 25, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
kitty porn
Supporting San Francisco Dugout since 2005 and Manny Burriss since 2006, and bringing you all your California League needs since 2009.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 25, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
51-40
The record the Giants need to win 90 games this year.
That’s…downright reachable.
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
Yes, but where do they rank for RBI groundouts?
Fred Lewis can stand under my umbrella.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
We are at war with Los Angeles. We have always been at war with Los Angeles.
Lowering the Quality of Internet Discourse Since 1985™
Are we still first in infield hits?
The San Francisco Giants: Where old men go to die.
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jun 25, 2009 10:24 PM PDT reply actions
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