Buy low(er) trade option: Jimmy Rollins
by Fresburg on Jun 23, 2009 8:09 AM PDT
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Rollins hasn't been discussed in a while, and coming off a world series win there was no possible way they would've considered trading him this last off season. However, with the glamour of the world series championship wearing off, Philly finds themselves unable to create any separation in a weakened NL East and in serious need of pitching (only the Nationals have a worse team ERA).
Rollins has been off to a horrible start, and is still struggling. His line thus far is .217/.261/.338--far below his career average of .274/.329/.436. Even his stolen bases are down (10). Despite his struggles, I've yet to hear someone say that he's on the permanent decline, and he still has a very affordable contract with only $16M owed in 2010 and 2011.
With all of that, plus a capable Jason Donald in line to replace him, I'm thinking the Phillies might be willing to deal at a reasonable price. Possibly a package of Sancheese, Merkin, Crawford? (Just spitballing... I could be way off on the value of that package).
What do ya say Sabes, kick some tires?
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haven’t philly fans had a sorta love/hate relationship with Rollins? I seem to remember them being pretty dissatisfied with him pre-MVP.
No that’s just how Phillies fans are. They like Rollins, but that doesn’t mean they won’t boo the crap out of him on any given day.
by Missing Barry on Jun 23, 2009 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t boo any Phillies, but Rollins has been truly terrible this year. Like, Abe Nunez / Neifi Perez bad.
That said, the Phillies aren’t trading him, for better or worse. I think they kind of have to bank on some regression.
You can have Jack Taschner back, though.
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I though we took him back behind the barn like Ol’ Yellow.
/ shrugs.. walks away ingnoring the “free” sign around Specail Agent’s neck.
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
We call him “White Flag.” He’s a sign of surrender.
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by WholeCamels on Jun 25, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
“I don’t boo any Phillies”
Well living in Philly, I’ve seen enough to say you’re the exception.
by Missing Barry on Jun 25, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Shrug… roll my eyes… throw up my arms in exasperation. But never boo.
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by WholeCamels on Jun 25, 2009 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
I can’t see that being enough for Rollins. (Waits for rest of McCoven to assemble fact to the contrary then rub my nose in it.) I can’t imagine them doing this kind of trade with out having run up the White Flag.
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
Yeah, I didn’t think so, but I was trying to keep Alderson out of a trade proposal for once… Maybe add Pucetas/Sosa to the mix?
The problem is the Phillies window is still now. Move any MI of Rollins quality and development almost certainly moves a team’s window to later. It might be different if the Phils had a young hot shot to replace Rollins about to graduate their farm but they don’t.
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
Really don’t see them trading Rollins unless they’d receive more than he’s likely worth. I don’t see us having anything attractive enough to them other than for Cain/Lincecum (who would obviously be way too much) or a bumper prospect haul (including at least 1 of the big 4).
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Two Phillies I would trade for
And the both play on the other side of that infield
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jun 23, 2009 9:06 AM PDT reply actions
East Bay native
Rollins went to Encinal High in Alameda, so this would be a homecoming for him.
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by say hey nation on Jun 23, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
I was being sarcastic. They mention Rollins’ Bay Area roots every time the Giants play against the Phils.
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by i love sports101 on Jun 24, 2009 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Sanchez has zero trade value
ZERO.
We missed the boat on trading him, and for now we are stuck with him
And when, exactly, did Sanchez have trade value?
by Missing Barry on Jun 23, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
The off-season when a good amount of baseball pundits expected him to have a breakout year.
by SeeingStars on Jun 23, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
When the offers we were getting involved guys like Jorge Cantu? Real quality trade value there.
by Missing Barry on Jun 23, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah but I’d much rather take a chance on Sanchez than ship him out for a bum.
by Missing Barry on Jun 23, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Have you checked the stats that “bum” has put up so far this year? More value than we’re currently getting out of our 5th starter.
by AndOnTheDrums... on Jun 23, 2009 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I have. He’s hitting league average, and the only position he can field even adequately is 1B. Sanchez’s upside > Cantu.
by Missing Barry on Jun 23, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
1B is somewhere we could use an above league average hitter, as league average at 1B is quite a bit higher than just league average for all positions combined.
by Missing Barry on Jun 24, 2009 6:58 AM PDT up reply actions
I would do this...
Renteria, Alderson, Pucetas. I don’t think that works for Philly though because as daveinexhile pointed out it it would push the Phillies window back. If Sanchez was pitching well it would be much easier to work something out.
Why in the fuck
Would the Phillies want Renteria ?
by FairweatherFan on Jun 23, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know the Phillies farm system but if they don’t have a replacement they would need someone to fill in for Rollins. Amazingly Renteria is also hitting better than Rollins this year.
The proposal saves the Phils $7M/year and gives them 2 young pitchers. I think they need pitchers that could come in right away, so like I said the trade doesn’t work well with the Phils trying to win now. If Sanchez had the same value as he did at the begining of the year I think we could work something out, but we don’t have the pitchers that would make the Phils bite now.
by VizquelQuest on Jun 23, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
You gave away Alderson. That was not wise.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jun 23, 2009 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
And it still wouldn’t get Rollins anyway.
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Jun 23, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe play another year for them
and give that prospect more time to develop
The San Francisco Giants: Where old men go to die.
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jun 26, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Unless Rollins has acquired a vicious cocaine habit that only the Phillies are aware of, they probably won’t trade their former MVP unless the Giants are coming with a whole lot of Bumgarner.
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Jun 23, 2009 10:56 AM PDT reply actions
Im pretty sure Donald just got injured and had surgery, and Im not sure Philly would jump at any package with Sanchez at the center either.
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yes, Donald is hurt (plus he’s not even as good as Kevin Frandsen). the Phillies would not trade Rollins.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jun 23, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
This is Lincecum for Robinson Cano-esque
Seriously; this is talk radio level. Rollins is overrated, but Philly is as likely to trade him as we are to trade Lincecum.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
There’s a very good case the NL West is the 2nd best division in baseball.
by Missing Barry on Jun 24, 2009 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions
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