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Post-Game Recap: The Giants Might Have Problems Scoring Runs

With less than 100 games to go in the season, I'm out of ways to write "this offense stinks." I'm out of metaphors, allusions, similes, anecdotes, and adjectives. I've googled the phrase "HTML code to express the look of a guy shrugging his shoulders and wrinkling his face in disgust", and nothing comes up. Don't google that on Image Search with SafeSearch off, though. Whoa.

This offense stinks.

Tired of it.

Until further notice, I would like to blame all of the offensive struggles on a single player every night. Tonight, Edgar Renteria gets the blame. Bad Edgar! The Giants tried to take rotten shark and make hakarl, but in the end, they got a pile of gelatinous, rotten, putrefied shark. And they call that pile Edgar. And they're paying Edgar millions of dollars. So tonight, Edgar Renteria is the only thing wrong with the Giants offense. It is his fault alone that the Giants could not score tonight. Bad Edgar!

(...I'll wait a bit and see if that makes me feel better...)

edit: Not really.

other edit: I so didn't have this ready in the eighth inning, and I resent the implication.

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Didn’t see the game. How was Sanchez?

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.

by cheno on Jun 22, 2009 9:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

didn’t watch the game either but looking at the boxscore it again looks like he would make a hell of a reliever…. not so much a starter – Pucetas Please!!

by OTTOMATIC on Jun 22, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

he was fine for a 5th starter. He was horrible for a #1 starter. Good thing he's the #5 starter.

Because, you know, he’s not the #1 starter.

For those of us who saw the game, there is general agreement that he was much better tonight and that he was victimized by some lucky hits. He was ok.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Jun 22, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How many times do we have to see the same thing though…. he pitches great first time through the lineup and then falls apart completly! I think he should be worked into the bullpen and we should try something different. We don’t have the luxury to let him “figure things out” anymore – Colorado is too hot!

by OTTOMATIC on Jun 22, 2009 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i thought you didn’t watch the game?

On 5/7, the best part of waking is up LOLDGERS in my cup.

by GameSix on Jun 23, 2009 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Colorado is too hot for what?

Doesn’t anyone remember the 2009 Giants Projection thread? 99% of us were going to be happy if the Giants finished better than 81-81. Now we’re trying to fiddle with things to hold on to a 2nd place when LA is playing .650+ ball? Jigga please…

Leave it alone for once and let players develop for once in this franchise’s history! Think long term. I know the Giants can sniff the Wild Card right now, but I think locking a Wild Card spot in 2009 with actually hurt this team in the long run.

Hitler was a Dodgers fan.

by The Nick on Jun 23, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree that he did alright tonight. He got a bit shaky in the 3rd, but beyond that, I can live with this outing. For a team that actually has MLB hitters, Sanchez’s performance would have kept them in the game. But, you know, this is the Giants, and a 3 run deficit is far too big of a mountain to climb

Approved

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right

by Giant among Angels on Jun 22, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mean 4th inning

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right

by Giant among Angels on Jun 22, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I only watched up to the 5th inning, but I’d have to disagree with most people here who were optimistic by his start. Keep in mind the competition he faced last night. The A’s offense is just as bad as the Giants with only +20 runs despite the DH.

by SeeingStars on Jun 23, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree that Sanchez was pretty okay last night. But I don’t think the Giants have the luxury of a classic 5-6 IP, 4.5-5.5 ERA 5th starter if they want to contend.

Sanchez is good candidate for 5th starter on the Giants for a couple of reasons based on the foundation that his “stuff” is good. 1. He could be a great pitcher – top-half of the rotation kinda guy. That is what the Giants need from each starter if they want to contend with their current offense. (that and a brilliant bullpen). 2. He could pitch himself back into a valuable trade piece – to try and upgrade that putrid offense.

Replacing Sanchez with a 5th starter-type 5th stater – um Bomko? Ramon Ortiz? – might bring up a guy That be consistently just below average. And lose every game when the Giants only score 1.7 runs a game anyways. Pucetas might also be a candidate for good starter or trade bait, but I haven’t seen him pitch and don’t want to get into the “knows how to pitch” vs. “sucky K-rate” debate.

Really my point is that the Giants need #1 starters 1-5 in the rotation. Unfair to 5th starters, but then with the Giants offense, there isn’t room for fair.

co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
Ishikawa, let the boy hit against lefties.

by kennv on Jun 23, 2009 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

(points at screen) Go ahead, FairweatherFan.

(suspecting another screed about the Injustice of How Frandsen Has Been Treated, but willing to give platform anyway)

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Jun 23, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kind of depends on whether you think it’s a better idea to bring up Bumgarner or Posey. I don’t have much faith in Brian’s ability to acquire either from outside the organization at this point.

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Jun 23, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Simple, Sanchez will just become as good as a 1-3 type starter!

Seriously, the Giants need to upgrade offensively, but aside from some Frandsenfillia and Bowkermania, I don’t see a lot the Giants can do on the trade market without touching the “big four”.

The free agent market might (still) be the way to go. I don’t know if any of these LOLd guys are still in playing shape, but here is what a quick search turned up: Grudzielanek – 743 OPS in 08, Durham -813 OPS in 08, Pedro Martinez and Ben Sheets.

Mid-season upgrades are pretty hard to do. So serious answer is neither is easy though offense upgrades seem more obvious. (Firing Bochy – Aurilia player manager!, resting Bengie, and more Frandsen might be a start though).

co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
Ishikawa, let the boy hit against lefties.

by kennv on Jun 23, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not that bad IMO.

A little help from the gritty gamers gang would have help. So would Hiead not falling back alseep ( for something like 2 innings) after he got a relever up. But hey thats our ’09 Giants ina nut shell.

Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?

by daveinexile on Jun 22, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

With an actual offense, he might actually have gotten a win.

by Natto on Jun 22, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was an improvement in that he didn’t self-kerplode, but it was still a frustrating outing because he really didn’t pitch all that well. Whenever he gets ahead in the count and tries to get guys to chase just off the plate, he just throws it 9 feet away from anything resembling the strike zone. Unless you’re talking about the strike zone of the batter on deck. Then, maybe.

At least he could throw strikes when he wanted to. He just couldn’t throw a single near-strike for his fucking life. Sad to say that’s an improvement, but it was. The results ended up being acceptable, but they could have easily been ugly.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jun 22, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, he could "pitch all that well" every now and then and still be a fifth starter

But that’s probably beside the point. I think my phrasing hurt my actual point. Really, I was trying to say that his results (which were okay) didn’t match his quality (which was still bad).

I think that in terms of him being a fifth starter, this performance was pretty much in line with what our expectations for Sanchez have likely become, and with the expectations that it is becoming more and more clear that we should have for him. That he is a fifth starter. That he’s just going to give us shaky stuff with mixed results.

It is, however, true that it is hard to get the idea that he sh/could be better.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jun 22, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Sh/cou be doo be dooooo.... exchanging clothing..."

(‘Fletch’)

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Jun 22, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Giants offense “image hosted by tripod”??

by SFGuy on Jun 22, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

appropriate FAIL

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Jun 22, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I bet all 3 legs are of differnt lengths.

Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?

by daveinexile on Jun 22, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

what does John Kerry represent

Watch out Sanchez... uncle Pucetas is comin' for you.

by Sammy Danger on Jun 22, 2009 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

East side!

no?

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Jun 23, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hilarious

the mayor has some hopz

by wilriv21 on Jun 23, 2009 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve googled the phrase “HTML code to express the look of a guy shrugging his shoulders and wrinkling his face in disgust”, and nothing comes up.

How about a pic of a full diaper barrel? That should do it.

Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?

by daveinexile on Jun 22, 2009 9:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I expected to lose this game, there never really was any hope

The artist formerly known as Set-up man

by CB30 on Jun 22, 2009 9:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think the whole team expected to lose this game – Sanchez starts = bad karma! Time to try something new

by OTTOMATIC on Jun 22, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Giants lose when Jonathan Sanchez starts because the Giants lose when Jonathan Sanchez starts.

El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."

by ResDog on Jun 23, 2009 6:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sigh

I missed most of this for circumstances out of my control, but damned if listening to Kuip getting exacerbated didn’t make the point.

Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.

by Aadik on Jun 22, 2009 9:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

exasperated.

He is not exacerbated.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Jun 22, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

exaggerated

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Jun 22, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't spell, okay? They've driven me to drink!

Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.

by Aadik on Jun 22, 2009 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

me too.

3 hrs ago!!!!

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Jun 22, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I don’t mind. I’m drinking too. I just thought we were playing a fun “words that begin with ‘ex’ and end in ‘ed’” game.

by non sequitur on Jun 22, 2009 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

exsanguinated!

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jun 22, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

excoriated

Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.

by Johnny Disaster on Jun 22, 2009 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

excommunicated

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Jun 22, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fun fact

James Loney and Travis Ishikawa have about the same OPS+.

by Natto on Jun 22, 2009 9:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I like Ishi…. Sanchez not so much

by OTTOMATIC on Jun 22, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

not so fun fact

rox are .5 games behind the giants unless the angels rally for 8 runs

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Jun 22, 2009 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

not gonna happen. I took the monkey out back and shot em.

by baybruin415 on Jun 22, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

contemplate on teh Zen of “79”.

Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?

by daveinexile on Jun 22, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I fucking hate the Rockies…. since for some reason the Giants game was blacked out for me tonight and I had to watch that game (rooting for the Angels is like slamming your dick in a door!) and to watch that team beat the shit out of a team that just swept us killed me.

by OTTOMATIC on Jun 22, 2009 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Should have checked the first thread. There was an online link to the game.

by SFGuy on Jun 22, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

atdhe.net

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Jun 22, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I went to a bar because I had a feeling of what was going to happen to tonight and I wanted to try to pre emptively kill the pain

by OTTOMATIC on Jun 22, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait. That’s not a fun fact. That’s a sabermetrically sound fact.

We’ve been duped.

by Grant on Jun 22, 2009 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s strange, but it feels like Loney and Ishikawa are in a competition to determine which 1B is better. Loney hits a HR, Ishikawa hits a HR, etc.

But, TI has the edge in the HR department, in that he he’s done it in fewer ABs. So, obviously, our 1B is winning…

by Squire_Boone on Jun 22, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

TI doesnt have the Failbeard

And also isnt a Dodger, so he has that going for him

The artist formerly known as Set-up man

by CB30 on Jun 22, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Travis is due to some sirious BABIP regression (.357). Neither his track record nor his profile suggest that he should be able to keep even a .330 BABIP.

Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.

:-(

by Cookyman on Jun 23, 2009 3:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

DINGERZ don’t go into play.

co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
Ishikawa, let the boy hit against lefties.

by kennv on Jun 23, 2009 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Certainly true

He is also due for some serious regression on his k%.

They will probably balance out.

I think this is the Travis Ishikawa we were looking for.

by FairweatherFan on Jun 23, 2009 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is also due for some serious regression on his k%.

Based on what?

Adoptive parent of Noah Lowry.

:-(

by Cookyman on Jun 23, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Freaking Angels. I was hoping mightily they would sweep the Rockies and give us some breathing room.

by non sequitur on Jun 22, 2009 9:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well they’re not the Dodgers.

by SFGuy on Jun 22, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeesh. Never.

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Jun 22, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

One of my co-workers got thrown out of the game on Saturday between LAA and LAD. He’s a Dodger fan, but he is not the stereotypical rude jackass like most of them are. Some Angel fan threw a few food wrappers on them and an argument ensued and he got tossed. He is a very quiet guy, so I can only imagine how the Angels fans were acting.

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right

by Giant among Angels on Jun 22, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Umm… Angels fan vs. Dodgers fan – Here is the only acceptable outcome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhiHatGncek

by OTTOMATIC on Jun 22, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heck even some friends and I got thrown out of Angels Stadium. It was about 20 years ago and we had been drinking a lot.

by wilriv21 on Jun 23, 2009 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

well I'm off to go play video games

no more heroes sounds good

Watch out Sanchez... uncle Pucetas is comin' for you.

by Sammy Danger on Jun 22, 2009 9:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The only good part about tonight's game

was that Kruk and Jon didn’t let Fosse say a damn thing.

by bondo on Jun 22, 2009 9:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

GIS result for "Giants offense stinks"

Anagram of "knowing how to win" = WOW, I KNOW NOTHING

by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jun 22, 2009 9:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Not so much FAIL in that picture

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Jun 22, 2009 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

the angels are getting murdered

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Jun 22, 2009 9:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Will the Rockies ever lose again?

by SFGuy on Jun 22, 2009 9:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

no

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Jun 22, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously

Fuck those guys.

You know who is even more pissed right now ?

Clint Hurdle.

by FairweatherFan on Jun 22, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hurdle was on MLB Network today and had to talk about the Rockies.

by SFGuy on Jun 22, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You waited until the 8th to write that?

Such self control is admirable. I shut it off when 2 scored in the 6th…. you know, dishes to do and what not.

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.

by zenbitz on Jun 22, 2009 10:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That could be viewed as a positive. Life of Brian may be the worst thing on television

The artist formerly known as Set-up man

by CB30 on Jun 22, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What do you mean, you don’t enjoy watching professional athletes bitch from their hotel suite about not being able to get room service within 15 minutes at midnight?

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Jun 23, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

was that actually an "episode"?

I only saw one episode, and it mostly featured him riding bikes with the mascot, who was recognized everywhere while he seemed to be ignored. Which is probably about right.

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

There's 3 ways to do something: the right way, the wrong way, and the Max Power/ Ginats Way...

by natteringnabob on Jun 23, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The episode I saw featured a house tour, interview with the traveling secretary, his room service rant from the hotel suite and five minutes of him and his friend playing Rock Band.

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Jun 23, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

as Gary Radish says

that’s good television.

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

There's 3 ways to do something: the right way, the wrong way, and the Max Power/ Ginats Way...

by natteringnabob on Jun 23, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

“I’ve got nose hairs!”

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Jun 23, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like myself so a big NO.

by SFGuy on Jun 22, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Am I really the only one that loves it?

Original member of the Van Buren Boys

by NuschlerFace on Jun 23, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate Ray Fosse so much

I am really looking forward to tomorrow when it’s the return of Kruk and Kuip on TV.

by SFGuy on Jun 22, 2009 10:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

And EI has their shit together.

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right

by Giant among Angels on Jun 22, 2009 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The stupid A’s had to skip this game for TV.

by SFGuy on Jun 22, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was at that game

Was Davis (I think) out when he got the steal in the 6th? I couldn’t tell.

Also, that was not a fun game to attend.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
Chatterbalks dot com: Still with jokes. Now with updates.

by groug on Jun 22, 2009 10:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He was safe.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jun 22, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was safe. Though I think Downs could have made a better tag than he did.

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right

by Giant among Angels on Jun 22, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

correct on both points.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Jun 22, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You see that all the time where the middle infielder reaches forward and takes the throw in front of the bag and swipetags backwards. Why can’t they figure out it’s always quicker to let the ball come to the bag and just drop the glove?!? That was the difference between SAFE and OUT in this case.

by BobSacamano on Jun 23, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was a close play

But yeah, he was safe.

"Are we bad? No. But right now, we are." Boulderskull, 4.16.09

by Kitspool on Jun 22, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This team is fun when they win, and frustrating when they lose. Funny how it works out like that.

The artist formerly known as Set-up man

by CB30 on Jun 22, 2009 10:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

A non-existent 4-hit offense damn right frustrating to watch. Luckily the sun comes up again tomorrow morning and hopefully the offenses heads won’t be where the sun won’t.

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right

by Giant among Angels on Jun 22, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Definition of insanity, 2009: watching Jonathan Sanchez starts over and over and expecting different results.

"Are we bad? No. But right now, we are." Boulderskull, 4.16.09

by Kitspool on Jun 22, 2009 10:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I forget what a dominant Sanchez start looks like

The artist formerly known as Set-up man

by CB30 on Jun 22, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In fairness to Dirty, I didn’t realize his run support has been so crappy. They’ve scored one or no runs in nine of his 13 starts.

"Are we bad? No. But right now, we are." Boulderskull, 4.16.09

by Kitspool on Jun 22, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brother where art thou

by wilriv21 on Jun 23, 2009 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

can we officially declare the careers of winn, renteria, molina aurilia over?

No one here gets out alive.

by Bond16 on Jun 22, 2009 10:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Sorry if someone mentioned this in one of the Gameday Threads, but does it look to anyone else like Randy Winn has lost weight? He was never a stocky guy but he looks kind of gaunt—like Lincecum looked early in the season. I wonder if he’s got some virus he’s been fighting lately.

"Are we bad? No. But right now, we are." Boulderskull, 4.16.09

by Kitspool on Jun 22, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No because that’s one third of our team who just happpens to be in contention for a playoff spot (notice by one third I am talking about everyone but Aurilia)

by OTTOMATIC on Jun 22, 2009 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

so they aren’t replaceable?

No one here gets out alive.

by Bond16 on Jun 22, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

winn is batting great from the left side, and still plays outstanding defense. I think maybe he’s tailing off to only a platoon player, still very useful to a contending team. Molina I think still has 2 years left or so. You may be correct on renteria and certainly are on Aurilia.

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Jun 23, 2009 7:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Winn is no longer useful, because the team has 3 young (and cheap) lefty outfielders who can be just as productive.
Molina may have 2 years left, but those will be 2 ugly years unjustified by his production.

by DesertFox on Jun 23, 2009 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think if he was used differently by the team you would change your tune. Also, It’s easy to say “Nate will be just as good defensively” without him playing. I think as fans we will appreciate Winn’s outstanding defense when he isn’t the one patrolling RF anymore. If Winn, Nate and Lewis were in 3-4 games a week each, that would suffice for me.

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Jun 23, 2009 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

When Winn is patrolling right field I don’t worry. Anybody else, not so much.

by Merope on Jun 23, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uh

That is the worst third of a bad offense.

by DesertFox on Jun 23, 2009 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting

When mentioning the forthcoming promotion of Buster Posey, Baggs hinted for at least the second time that I can remember that Bumgarner may be called up this season.

link

I have to think that Baggs is hearing some whispers or something, it just seems unlikely that he would mention a possible bumgarner promotion with no reason.

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Jun 22, 2009 11:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

heh. Can o’ niblets. Now I know Lars’ true identity.

Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.

by oldjacket on Jun 23, 2009 6:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So I missed the game (went to see Grizzly Bear instead – good decision) and… I don’t have much to say about it.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jun 23, 2009 1:48 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

My wife wanted to watch John and Kate Plus Hate after the 6th inning. I didn’t put up any fight.

Go TI, though.

Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.

by oldjacket on Jun 23, 2009 6:44 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't care how bad the Giants are losing

there is no world in which I would switch from the game to that trash.

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Jun 23, 2009 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We’ve only got one TV, and I make her watch a lot of baseball. It’s a good idea to let the lady drive every once in a while, and all the better on a night with impending doom written all over it.

That said, the kids on that show seem pretty spoiled and obnoxious. The couple stresses me the F out.

Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.

by oldjacket on Jun 23, 2009 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love how all last week the say ANNOUNCEMENT TO CHANGE LIFE and then today in a press release Kate says JONS BEHAVIOR OVER WEEKEND SHOWED ME WE HAD NO OPTION!

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jun 23, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

AND BY BEHAVIOR I MEAN

HE WAS BONING SOME OTHER CHICK AND ALSO I"M A BITCH

by FairweatherFan on Jun 23, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

All I know about J&K+8 is from “The Soup.”

Apparently Kate is trying to make spanking your kids OK again.

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Jun 23, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Soup has J&K’s best moments.

Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.

by oldjacket on Jun 23, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Slow Train Wrecks: We Dig ’Em

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Jun 23, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Soup also has chicken tetrazzini. I still laugh whenever I hear that.

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Jun 23, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The "It’s a felony!!" line always got me.

Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?

by daveinexile on Jun 24, 2009 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's not ok?

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Jun 23, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

First I’ve heard of it.

El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."

by ResDog on Jun 23, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was when I was a kid, but now parents seem to be into the whole “time-out” thing. That’s why kids are soft. That, and t-ball games where they don’t keep score.

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Jun 23, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

THIS!

yippie-ki-yay-mo-fo's.
Usually, terrible things that are done with the excuse that progress requires them are not really progress at all, but just terrible things- Russell Baker. Almost hard to believe he wasn't talking about the DH.

by Die Hard on Jun 23, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So now Sanchez has the 2nd Worst run support

saw a graphic on Quickpitch. Zito is right behind him at #3.

Shouldn’t the 5th guy in the rotation match up against the other team’s suck more often than not? Is Sanchez putrid W-L partially an effect of the Giants bane of AAAA journeymen and rookies blanking their offense?

co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
Ishikawa, let the boy hit against lefties.

by kennv on Jun 23, 2009 9:08 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Fun Fact

Every team’s fans thinks AAAA journeymen and rookies blank their offense.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Jun 23, 2009 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But only select teams actually DO get blanked by AAAA journeymen and rookies on a consistent basis.

The artist formerly known as Set-up man

by CB30 on Jun 23, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

UMM..Have you ever noticed that teams have different managers, thus they make different decisions on when to skip spots, or have you ever noticed how some days not all the teams play? That can through off the schedule. One more jnjuries,

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Jun 23, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another reason I dislike Sat. nite games is I forget the earlier start time on occasion.

I flipped it on at 7:15 this weekend as it was in the 4th inning. Missed Cain striking out the side the previous inning.

by boogalou on Jun 23, 2009 9:12 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Bottom of the 8th

Typically, if a team leading by 3 runs scores 1 extra run before the trailing team’s last at bat, the announcers talk up how important that run was, so as to protect against the one-swing-of-the-bat comeback. Well, no mention whatsoever from Kruk-n-Kuip(-n-Fosse) last night after the A’s extended their lead to 5-1 in the bottom of the 8th. Afterall, what would be the point? It’s as if they were thinking “No freaking way this team scores 3 runs in one inning, let alone 4.”

by BobSacamano on Jun 23, 2009 9:43 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Er, Kruk-n-Miller

Not Kruk-n-Kuip; When 9 out of 10 games are on CSN, you tend to forget about the let’s-shake-things-up NBCBayArea announcer rotation.

by BobSacamano on Jun 23, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They were too busy talking about Jon Miller’s iPhone and iPod, which Krukow said “you look at with your eyeball.” Uggh.

I doubt any of the three broadcasters in the booth last night will be saving the tape of that game for their respective resumes.

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Jun 23, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

welcome

you and your fabulous username

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

There's 3 ways to do something: the right way, the wrong way, and the Max Power/ Ginats Way...

by natteringnabob on Jun 23, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

What he said.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Jun 23, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you still sell rat hats?

Original member of the Van Buren Boys

by NuschlerFace on Jun 23, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They were all drunk.

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Jun 23, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fuck you, Edgar Renteria!

I like cats. Wings is the greatest show of all time.

by Norm Median on Jun 23, 2009 10:56 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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