Buster Posey about to be promoted
There is more from this Brian Sabean interview here...
http://baybridgebaseball.com/2009/06/posey-and-bumgarner-coming-soon/
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pure gold
The Giants view Williams as a big-league-ready receiver whose hitting abilities are in question. Sabean said it might be “counterproductive” to promote Williams to Triple-A just to make room for Posey.
Really? You’ve brought guys up from A ball to strike out in SF more than a few times in the last couple years, so I don’t know why he should get any better treatment. Maybe he’d make a good SS!
In seriousness, I’d figure out where Posey should be playing and then worry about finding playing time for the spare parts of tomorrow.
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by natteringnabob on Jun 22, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Make room for Buster
I’d be surprised if he didn’t go to Fresno.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 22, 2009 10:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
hasn't that been the plan all along?
Pomote him to Fresno after 300 at bats (he has 287 PAs at the moment). It’s odd that this is being treated as some kind of breaking news.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jun 22, 2009 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’ve been rumors that that was the plan, but I don’t know that there’s ever been a public declaration of it.
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by Roger on Jun 23, 2009 5:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
I’ve only seen whisperings and mutterings like those of the Baron and others that tread the potato-salad laden corridors of SF Ginats powerbrokers.
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by natteringnabob on Jun 23, 2009 7:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"...tread the potato-salad laden corridors of SF Ginats powerbrokers."
LOVED IT!!
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by Lyle on Jun 23, 2009 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My sources have said he’s moving to Fresno, but I never heard the 300 at bats figure. I guess the one who wrote the article for MLB Fanhouse is being cautious in saying they’re not sure if he’s going to AA or AAA.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 23, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bobby Evans was the one that brought it up
during a pre-game segment that he does sometimes before Sunday Giants home games.
by superk1ng on Jun 23, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if that show didn't involve Miyeacheail Zitolover Urban
I’d listen every week. One of the better ideas KNBR has had, and Evans sounds remarkably lucid and rational when I’ve heard him talk.
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by natteringnabob on Jun 23, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What do you expect? He wrote a book on and hosts a show with the guy. This is the same radio network that has Bob Fitzgerald noon-3.
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by BrianBokake on Jun 23, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Evans. We chatted briefly when Cowart was released. He answered my questions and was happy to talk.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 23, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, exactly! I heard it one of those “Comin Down the Pipes” shows a while ago
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jun 23, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s breaking news to the big league beat writers who aren’t paying attention to the minors everyday. :)
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by BruteSentiment on Jun 23, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“He’s also a guy that may not have to pitch at every level to the get to the big leagues..”
We might see MadBum soon.
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by Azmanz on Jun 22, 2009 10:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
His control has suffered in AA. Besides, he’s 19. I don’t see much point in having him “learn on the job” in the majors. Both because it could hurt a team that’s actually good, and because he could waste alot of his service time being mediocre while he figures thing out that he could have learned in Fresno. Play it conservative.
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by Bhaakon on Jun 23, 2009 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dwight Gooden was up at age 19 and look what he did. Oh wait. Bad example.
by SFGuy on Jun 23, 2009 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, and few people survived the Black Plauge so that must not have been that bad either…
/ nods, nods with extra snark.
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by daveinexile on Jun 23, 2009 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Solution: get MadBum some cocaine.
Wait…
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 23, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
Cain spent a while in Triple-A, and so did Lincecum (although his time was much shorter with Fresno). I don’t care how good Bumgarner is, he needs and deserves to be brought up correctly.
And correctly doesn’t mean, “Because we’re all tired of Jonathan Sanchez’s bad body language.”
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Jun 23, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alderson will make it to the bigs before Bummy
by SoFa King Mike on Jun 23, 2009 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
good chance, but I hope neither make their debuts this year
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by Speedforthewin on Jun 23, 2009 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A September call up wouldn’t be a horrible thing, a little motivation for the off season work outs…
by Merope on Jun 23, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Understanding that there certainly are decent candidates, it’s still worth while pointing out that a September call up for Madbum or Timmy or Buster means somebody else (Bocock?) has to be sent through waivers so there’s room on the 40 man.
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by Roger on Jun 23, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
him or Richie, for sure
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by UnleashTheGore on Jun 23, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Bumgarner still needs some work. They both do, but I’ve long felt Alderson is the more advanced pitcher.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 23, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll spring for a box of Raspberry Blue DumDum’s and give it to Bummy if he surpasses Tim2.
(some careful observance of MadBum’s tendencies in the dugout; also: sweet Jeebus his ears are huge)
by SoFa King Mike on Jun 23, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And we’ll see Posey in the Majors before either of them.
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Jun 23, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any word on his development on pitch-calling duties?
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by Giant among Angels on Jun 22, 2009 10:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I spoke to Andy Skeels and Buster himself about it in April and both were confident. Perhaps it was lip service; I can’t be sure. I can’t tell the difference between Posey calling or not calling a game.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 22, 2009 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The few games I’ve been to this year, the starter has performed really well. I’ve seen Posey gun down some baserunners, and he’s not too bad blocking the ball either. I wouldn’t think he’s really that far off from playing in the majors.
by Hobbes2d on Jun 23, 2009 1:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think it’s that big of a deal. Posey’s smart, plus he was a pitcher himself at a pretty high level.
by Dan from NM on Jun 22, 2009 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gerald Posey should see the great Northeast. Please do not give me the excuse of Jacks Williams being at AA. The Giants can demote Williams to A+ San Jose and promote Gerald Posey to the hitting haven Dodd. C’mon it will be good for him.
Why send Posey from one hitting haven to another hitting haven? The minors should be where he experiences all kinds of pitching, ballparks.
by wilriv21 on Jun 22, 2009 11:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
if you can hit in triple A
you can hit in double A
by superk1ng on Jun 22, 2009 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have no problem with Posey being advanced to AAA. I’ve seen him at SJ in a handful of games, he’s definitely ready for the challenge.
by Hobbes2d on Jun 23, 2009 1:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have no problem with him skipping AA at all. If his bat is AAA ready, he should be playing against the higher competition.
I don’t know what you mean by “experience all kinds of pitching.” I can only think you mean “experience the craphole that is Connecticut,” but since that’s not what you said I’m not going to actually put the words in your mouth.
I agree the Jackson Williams line is a smokescreen, and an unnecesary one. Posey is one of the team’s top prospects, and he should be virtually ML ready right now. There’s no real reason for him to have to sit through 200 or whatever AA at bats. Play him against his talent level.
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by howtheyscored on Jun 23, 2009 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that if the organization thought Jacks didn’t have potential with the bat, he would already be the backup C for the Giants.
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by Speedforthewin on Jun 23, 2009 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It saddens me to imagine the organization thinks Jacks DOES have potential with the bat. Oh yeah, and if they can turn Bocock into a .260 hitter he’ll make a lot of money, too.
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by Roger on Jun 23, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think anyone in the organization is worrying about Posey’s bat. He’s going to Fresno to work with former ML pitchers.
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by Smotheredinhugs on Jun 23, 2009 6:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ramon Ortiz
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Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
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by natteringnabob on Jun 23, 2009 7:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is a truly frightening thought.
“Ramon, dude… are you sure that when I call for your slider, you’re supposed to throw a fastball down the middle? I mean, I dont’ think that’s the way Broshuis did it in San Jose….”
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by Lyle on Jun 23, 2009 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m curious why Bumgarner is getting talked about for a promotion so much and alderson isn’t? any thoughts as to why?
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by Speedforthewin on Jun 23, 2009 7:23 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think in this case it is because the reporter asked about Bumgarner but not about Alderson
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jun 23, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I beieve it’s because MadBum easily outperformed T2 during ST and at SJ earlier this year. They’ve been about equal in the short time they’ve been in Conn. – although MadBum’s been sick the past 2 weeks.
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by Fla-Giant on Jun 23, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, which one gets promoted? The catcher?
Or the rabbit?
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by multiphasic on Jun 23, 2009 8:35 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
A Garrett Broshuis entry is always welcome by this McCoven.
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by daveinexile on Jun 23, 2009 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buster the bunny has great peripherals.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 23, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by GameSix on Jun 24, 2009 6:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no relation
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 24, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
MadBum and Alderson
I hope both make it to AAA this season, but would like their seasons to end there. At their young age, their bodies are still developing and they’ll have thrown plenty of pitches this season. I don’t want to baby them, but the team should be careful with 19 year old arms.
Let’s wait on starting their service clocks.
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by Goofus on Jun 23, 2009 9:23 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
or need to Solomon Torres them.
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by daveinexile on Jun 23, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ideally, I’d like to see a David Price/Matt Wieters call up on them in 2010
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by lmaozedong on Jun 23, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
meh... maybe.
Lets see what they do between now and mid August. I am not dead set agaist the idea but they are throwing in a 6 man rotation would be carded if hey tried to buy a beer from a non Giatns fan.
Maybe i am also a little too sick and tired of the fal out from the Sanchez cluster fuggin handleing as well.
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by daveinexile on Jun 23, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nooooo
I"m going to my first SJ Giants game Thursday. Please dear god Posey stay in SJ for another week
by jctGamer on Jun 23, 2009 11:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Better not count on it
It’s pretty obvious that they’ll let him play in the All-Star game today (?) and then give him a day or 2 to report to Fresno or Conn. There’s no sense in sending him back to SJ to play 1 or 2 games after the break. San Jose doesn’t start it’s 2nd half until Thursday.
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by Fla-Giant on Jun 23, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I might normally say send Posey to AA, but a Triple-A move makes sense, if only for a decision on how to handle Molina’s contract year. They need as good an indication if Posey is ready for the bigs, defensively and offensively, and Triple-A is arguably (yes, only arguably) a better place for that, as numbers will be skewed in both places. However, just as important, it’ll be easier for the brass who needs to see it with their own eyes to go to Fresno to see Posey, rather than take at least two days to go to Connecticut and come back. I do know that Sabes and Tidrow do go out to Connecticut, but it’s a lot easier to do on a moment’s notice to go to Fresno.
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by BruteSentiment on Jun 23, 2009 11:44 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Congrats
That’s the 1st good explanation that I’ve heard on why they would plan to send BP to Fresno instead of Conn.
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by Fla-Giant on Jun 23, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you mean Brian Sabean’s explanation of having Jackson William at AA already and wants him to stay there because his bat cannot translate to AAA yet isn’t good? I thought that made perfect sense as well.
by jctGamer on Jun 23, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
damn hit Enter too early. My personal preference is to have him catch MadBum and Tim2 for half a season, but AAA is better for his bat.
by jctGamer on Jun 23, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll reply to your question, just in case you weren’t dishing out a healthy dose of sar-chasm. I don’t buy the Jackson Williams excuse. Why does what happens to a guy destined to be a journeyman back-up catcher make any difference when deciding what’s best for the development of your $6M bonus baby who’s destined to be one of our top players for the next 15 years? If Williams can’t hack it in AAA or AA, send him back to SJ and keep him there until he learns to hit above .250. For the record, I’ve always wanted Buster to go to Conn. next to continue to develop a rapport with MadBum, T2, and Sosa, and to see how he hits in a pitchers park.
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by Fla-Giant on Jun 24, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by UnleashTheGore on Jun 23, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 23, 2009 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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