Would you trade Matt Cain for Prince Fielder?
by backtocali on Jun 22, 2009 10:20 AM PDT
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I posted this exactl same fanpost on Brew Crew Ball. It relates mostly to the Brewer point of view, but does touch on a few things Giant related. Apparently, this trade was out there all offseason long and Sabean did not want Fielder on the team for defensive reasons. I post it here as well to get the other side's opinion.
Many posts and stories have been done about the Brewer pitching staff, and its recent decline. Like many of the frequent visitors to this site, I am of the opinion that the Brewers need to add a starting pitcher to make a playoff run this season. Manny Parra's slide has only exacerbated the weakness that the Brewer starting rotation is not quite built for to make a playoff run.
But what to do? I have always thought that the Giants would be a perfect place for Fielder after his time was done with the Brewers because of salary issues (the Giants or a big market AL club where he could be a DH). The big question is whether or not the Brewers could score enough runs to win without Fielder in the lineup. There is no doubt that the team needs another pitcher. The nice thing about dealing for a guy like Cain would be that he is currently cheaper than Fielder and he would be under team control for two more years.
Fielder currently has a 2.5 WAR vs. Cain's 1.5. That could be balanced by the Giants sending Travis Ishikawa over as well to balance out the trade. Ishikawa is currently at 0.5, but the difference between Fielder and Cain's salaries would at the very least make up for that 0.5 WAR lacking on the Brewer end. If anything, the Giants might even want a prospect going their way to make it a deal worth considering.
In a trade like the one I mention above, the Brewers get an upgrade in the pitching staff, they get a replacement level player to take over at 1B, and in the end improve the team overall. The Giants have a ready made replacement for Cain in either Tim Alderson or Madison Bumgarner (yes, they are both MLB ready now) and they upgrade their offense to make a possible playoff run.
One other possibility would be Cain for JJ Hardy and Corey Hart. The problem is that you replace Hart with Gerut, which in the end may not be all that bad, but Gerut has not performed well at all since joining the team. I have no fears at all about Alcides Escobar taking over for Hardy at SS though, as his defense would improve the pitching overall, and his offense couldnt be much worse than what Hardy is giving the team right now. The giants would improve themselves offensively here as well, but Hardy might have to play 2B until the Renteria contract expires and no body knows if he could actually do this.
Will Sabean pull the trigger on a deal like that (either of them listed above), probably not. But would you?
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Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
by rotorueter on Jun 22, 2009 10:21 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Prepare for abuse
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
by oldjacket on Jun 22, 2009 10:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
backtocali on brew crew ball:
I posted the same fanpost on the Giants board to see what they would think and they were quite annoyed the the idea.
The thing I dont get is that the Giants definitely need a power hitter in the middle of their somewhat anemic offense, they have pitching to spare. Both players are all star quality this year.
Im a little shocked to see the reaction they showed. Not so much on this end, as Fielder is the face of the franchise and people here love the HR.
"Well, um, actually a pretty nice little Saturday, we're going to go to Home Depot. Yeah, buy some wallpaper, maybe get some flooring, stuff like that. Maybe Bed, Bath, & Beyond, I don't know, I don't know if we'll have enough time."
by Azantor on Jun 22, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I thought he was a Giants fan. This is like that LAAAAAA trade proposal a couple of weeks ago, I forget the details.
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Jun 22, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why is it so hard to understand that the difference between Ishikawa and Fielder isn’t big enough to make up for the difference between Cain and Pucetas/Martinez/Ortiz/Alderson?
I mean, yeah you add Fielder to the lineup and we’ll score more runs… and all of a sudden, the pitching rotation is painfully ordinary (bad even… one really good pitcher and a bunch of guys who are pitching at 3rd/4th starter levels.)
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by jponry on Jun 22, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
THIS!!!
Cain ~ Fielder
Ishi~Cain Replacement
Fielder Replacement>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Who ever Cain bumps
Advantage: Brewers
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Jun 22, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why is it so hard to understand that the difference between Ishikawa and Fielder isn’t big enough to make up for the difference between Cain and Pucetas/Martinez/Ortiz/Alderson?
I got here late and am trying to figure out why the thread went on after this comment by JP. Grand Slam Comment !!
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by nvsfg on Jun 23, 2009 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because it always goes on. It goes on and on and on. Cain for Fielder is the No Exit of McCC.
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by Roger on Jun 23, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh sweet mercy
I think he’s serious.
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by UnleashTheGore on Jun 22, 2009 10:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It must be a troll.
If not maybe we can sell him a bridge!
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
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by daveinexile on Jun 22, 2009 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One other possibility would be Cain for JJ Hardy and Corey Hart.
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by ryanmiles on Jun 22, 2009 10:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No.
No.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
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by jponry on Jun 22, 2009 10:29 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nope.
Nuh-uh.
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by Useful_Idiot on Jun 22, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah ah
No way
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by boonitez on Jun 22, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way
Not gonna do it.
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by UnleashTheGore on Jun 22, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thousand points of light
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by icanplaythird on Jun 22, 2009 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not even nah?
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 22, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Giants have a ready made replacement for Cain in either Tim Alderson or Madison Bumgarner (yes, they are both MLB ready now)
No. They are both great prospects but Cain is a 200+ inning a year, 120 ERA+ pitcher. It is HIGHLY unlikely that either of TimA or MadBum will be able to replace that right off the bat. (Especially not when (a) there are questions about Alderson’s fastball playing as well as it has in the minors in the majors and (b) Bumgarner really hasn’t been all that dominant since moving to AA.)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 22, 2009 10:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well and aren’t they on a 6 man rotation, strict pitch count sorta thing over there in AA ?
And then you just want to dump them over here without …. oooooooh nfm
by Merope on Jun 22, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no ironic recs for this one, please
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
by oldjacket on Jun 22, 2009 10:34 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
:( you’re no fun
Still in despair.
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by Zetsuboushita on Jun 22, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO
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by CB30 on Jun 22, 2009 10:36 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Apparently, this trade was out there all offseason long
so, you come here often?
by sayheybk on Jun 22, 2009 10:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s funny because this guy wanted to trade Alderson in his last Fanpost.
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by Natto on Jun 22, 2009 10:39 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps we need a 1 week posting rule....
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by Aadik on Jun 22, 2009 10:39 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hijack City
"Buy High-Sell Low"--The Brian Sabean Method Of Trading
by Mordy From Monsey on Jun 22, 2009 10:39 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Way off topic hijack:
I’m looking for a good gingery ginger ale.
Any suggestions?
by Merope on Jun 22, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barritt’s makes a great ginger beer, but that’s a whole other ball-game.
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by cornball on Jun 22, 2009 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like with a bite? Canada Dry is my ginger ale of choice, but it’s fairly weak in the ginger department. There was one I had with a pronounced ginger flavor that I can’t recall.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 22, 2009 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Red Rock. End of Discussion.
It is a little hard to find, but well worth it.
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by nvsfg on Jun 23, 2009 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
TJ’s had some Reed’s Ginger Brew, we’ll see how that is.
by Merope on Jun 23, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For Fielder? Yes!
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by NuschlerFace on Jun 22, 2009 10:42 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I'd do it. And I'll tell you why
No, not really. Has anyone played any good video games lately?
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by Useful_Idiot on Jun 22, 2009 10:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I rented Okami for Wii the other day but I haven’t played it yet, I might today.
I’m still depressed about the apparent loss of my DS. :(
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by jponry on Jun 22, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would you like a DS phat? I recently got a DSi, so I’m willing to part with the old girl.
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by Natto on Jun 22, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just might, but I do want to look around a bit more. I’m actually more depressed that I lost pretty much all of my games too (Pokemon Pearl, Suikoden Tierkreis, Animal Crossing, Phoenix Wright, and Pokemon Emerald/Leaf Green.)
… SOB. I’m still hoping it’s just around the house somewhere but I’m not optimistic. :(
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 22, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dang, I didn’t know you lost all of those games. Major suckage.
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by Natto on Jun 22, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, they were all in a little bag together. I might e-mail you or something about the DS Phat though, not having to pay full price for a new one would make it a bit less painful.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 22, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought I lost my DS once, then I found it six months later in a storage box. That was one of the greatest discoveries ever.
I like cats.
by Norm Median on Jun 22, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I left mine on an airplane. About a month ago.
D:
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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 22, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have lost many things on that Boston to SF flight.
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by cornball on Jun 22, 2009 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually got 8 inch long scissors through security in Boston, left in my back pack from school, found them in Oakland security check on the way home
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Jun 22, 2009 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I found a copy of Pokemon Fire Red in my closet when I was moving out in February. It was awesome.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 22, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did the same thing. found mine in storage 9 months after “losing” it
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by Speedforthewin on Jun 23, 2009 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What happened to the DS?!
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 22, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m still not sure but it isn’t in my backpack or my computer bag even though I’m sure I packed them there when I moved home. All I can think of is that I took it out on the plane and put it in the pocket (even though I don’t remember doing that) and then forgot it was there and didn’t take it out when I got off. And I didn’t notice until now because I’ve been so busy, so it’s obviously way too late to do anything about it if I did leave it on the plane. :(
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 22, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lmao
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by UnleashTheGore on Jun 23, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMFAO
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by i love sports101 on Jun 23, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Holy Shit, I can’t stop laughin!!!
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by i love sports101 on Jun 23, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
GOOD NEWS
I lol’d at this.
And then I found my Pokemon game cartridge! The rest is still missing but I CAN SHOW YOU ALL MY POKEMANS AGAIN.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 24, 2009 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sweet!
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by Natto on Jun 24, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
VICTOLY
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 24, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im replaying Oblivion, just for the heck of it
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by CB30 on Jun 22, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy moly
Going through it once was quite the undertaking. That’s like rereading the Wheel of Time.
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Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
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by thehavenot on Jun 22, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
im doing both right now. i beat oblivion and im on shadow rising if thats any guide. you hear memory of light got split into three books by sanderson?
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by operation carrot on Jun 23, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oblivion made me crazy with too many shortcuts it took. Like how unique weapons (such as the Umbra equipment) was just the exact same skin as all the non-special equipment. And I hated the interaction system. And I really didn’t like how they couldn’t be bothered making more key voices unique. Seriously, they couldn’t have asked Neil Watkins in Accounting to lend his voice to Archmage Traven or The Gray Fox? And couldn’t they have given the Fighter’s Guild some piece of armor that actually looked unique to them?
And yet there’s so darn much I really loved about the game, so I’d played through it a few times (later with a good number of mods). Made it much more enjoyable, as did Shivering Isles.
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by JRPhillips on Jun 23, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it was a prettier but much dumbed-down version of Morrowind to my eye. I enjoyed it, but I didn’t play it for 200 hours like I did the previous one.
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by JakeS on Jun 24, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
good hijack.
I need a new game for xBox. I can take suggestions.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
by oldjacket on Jun 22, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems like nothing is coming out until November :(
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by SF Pete on Jun 22, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m considering freezing myself until Dead Rising 2 comes out.
I like cats.
by Norm Median on Jun 22, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s going to be awesome. Chainsaws on a motorcycle!
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by Natto on Jun 22, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ghostbusters!
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by Natto on Jun 22, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
$60!
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
by oldjacket on Jun 22, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no split-screen co-op option :(
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Jun 22, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ghostbusters doesn’t look that good from the ads, but I haven’t read any reviews on it yet. Have you played a demo or anything?
I like cats.
by Norm Median on Jun 22, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven’t played it yet, but it’s been getting positive reviews. I watched some playthroughs, and it looks really fun. One of my friends has been playing it and is really digging it so far.
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by Natto on Jun 22, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just checked some reviews and vids on the game, it does look pretty cool.
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by Norm Median on Jun 22, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Left 4 Dead, if you don't already have it
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by UnleashTheGore on Jun 22, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
by oldjacket on Jun 22, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you get it, I’d be down for some zombie slaying with you. It’s the kind of game where you need teamwork to survive. Random people are usually unreliable, especially those that don’t use headsets.
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by Natto on Jun 22, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
true dat.
I was already leaning towards Left 4 Dead anyways.
Randy Winn is going to catch that. And he'll do it real classy-like too.
by oldjacket on Jun 22, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
worse situation
random players or a computer player?
at least the computer will help you up when you fall. the random idiot just wastes a player
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by UnleashTheGore on Jun 22, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely the random folks, especially annoying 12 year old kids who keep talking about random crap.
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by Natto on Jun 22, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the DS side of things, I just finished Final Fantasy III. Decent, but getting through the last dungeon is a tedious affair. I’ve moved on to Broken Sword: Shadow of the Templars, an old adventure game updated for the DS. On my 360, I’ve been getting into Mass Effect am waiting on my copy of Ghostbusters.
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by Natto on Jun 22, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait
Like old FF3 – with Terra, Locke (etc) and Espers? Is this only on DS, or can it be gotten on PS3? I’m such a bad techie, but since it’s a hijack…
"Well, um, actually a pretty nice little Saturday, we're going to go to Home Depot. Yeah, buy some wallpaper, maybe get some flooring, stuff like that. Maybe Bed, Bath, & Beyond, I don't know, I don't know if we'll have enough time."
by Azantor on Jun 22, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
FFIII as in the original FFIII. You’re referring to FFVI, which became FFIII on SNES for convoluted reasons. They did made a 3D remake of FFIII for the DS. FFVI is available on the GBA as well as the Final Fantasy Anthology for the PSOne.
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by Natto on Jun 22, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, according to wikipedia, the PS3 model I bought can’t do PS2 games (grrr…) but supposedly it will work with PSone games, which I think I never had the heart to throw away after my PSone died.
Looks like that in addition to Final Fantasy Anthology, I should get a copy of Final Fantasy Chronicles, as I did enjoy the crap out of FF IV (e.g. FF2 in US)
"Well, um, actually a pretty nice little Saturday, we're going to go to Home Depot. Yeah, buy some wallpaper, maybe get some flooring, stuff like that. Maybe Bed, Bath, & Beyond, I don't know, I don't know if we'll have enough time."
by Azantor on Jun 22, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
PS3’s can’t play PS2, but PS1 yes?
Wha?
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by WalrusMan on Jun 22, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it’s weird. The PSone and PS2 have different architectures. The PS2 requires the “Emotion Engine”, which they removed from newer models of PS3s, most likely to save money.
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by Natto on Jun 22, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude I’ve been stuck on the last dungeon for six months! Granted, I’ve only played it twice in six months, but I am still stuck. Once you die and get revived what are you supposed to do?
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by Norm Median on Jun 22, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you’re referring to the the area after you enter the mirror, you need to avoid the portal in the middle and follow the other paths surrounding them. These paths lead to portals that will take you to areas with four different crystals that you’re supposed to find. Beat the bosses that pop up for each of them, and you’ll be ready to tackle the end boss.
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by Natto on Jun 22, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sweet. I’m gonna take a crack at it tonight. I started that game close to two years ago, it’s about time I finished it.
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by Norm Median on Jun 22, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It took me like two years to finish FFIII on DS for no other reason than that the last dungeon was takes over an hour to play if you’re being fast and I was underleveled with a poorly buit team.
I really should have had a healer and a Ninja. I would have had at least 10 fewer levels of grinding to do if I’d bothered to play the game with a FAQ.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jun 22, 2009 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My party had a Knight, a Ninja, a Magus, and a Devout. The Ninja’s speed definitely helped a lot.
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by Natto on Jun 22, 2009 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mass Effect is really great, I can’t wait for the sequel. I’ve been playing UFC 2009 a lot lately, very addictive brawler even if you aren’t into MMA.
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by JakeS on Jun 22, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not into MMA but that UFC game looks really cool. I may check it out.
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by Natto on Jun 22, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve heard really good things about the UFC game.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 22, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I wasn’t into MMA at all (although my interest has grown substantially from playing the game) but the gameplay is just outstanding. It’s the first in what looks to be a pretty popular franchise so things like career mode are very bare-bones but the fighting itself is amazing.
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by JakeS on Jun 22, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone keeps saying that Mass Effect was great
I just couldn’t get into it. I got to that space station thingie and it just felt so tedious.
And this is coming from someone who loved Knights of the Old Republic.
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Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
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by thehavenot on Jun 22, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I recently bought Punchout!! It’s a great game, albeit a bit easy. I am on the last title match, so I don’t know what kind of lasting continued play I’ll get after that.
Conduit comes out tomorrow, but I won’t get it until I’m back from vacation in early July. I’m really looking forward to that one.
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by UnleashTheGore on Jun 22, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You get to fight all the fighter, this time in a different mode that requires faster tming and different special moves
by jctGamer on Jun 22, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah sweet, thanks for the fyi
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by UnleashTheGore on Jun 22, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sacred II for the 360. If you like Diablo II, Sacred II is basically that but better in almost every way.
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by marcello on Jun 22, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know I'm behind the times
but I just got call of duty 4. Very, very good stuff.
"Well, um, actually a pretty nice little Saturday, we're going to go to Home Depot. Yeah, buy some wallpaper, maybe get some flooring, stuff like that. Maybe Bed, Bath, & Beyond, I don't know, I don't know if we'll have enough time."
by Azantor on Jun 22, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very good game
World at War was also quite good.
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
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by thehavenot on Jun 22, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I chose World at War simply because I’m (still) a huge fan of WWII games
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by Useful_Idiot on Jun 22, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Both great games
I love me some Nazi Zombies, but if you play online the maps for COD4 are much better. After the first couple months WAW has been collecting dust.
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by icanplaythird on Jun 22, 2009 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Both are outstanding games. Once you get to harder difficulties in the single-player, though, the continuous respawn gets really obnoxious.
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by cornball on Jun 22, 2009 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve been playing Infamous, it’s really cool.
by xanthan on Jun 22, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Infamous is awesome. I’m also replaying Bioshock on Survivor difficulty without Vita-chambers in order to get the trophy. I rate it at “Armando Benitez” on the frustration scale.
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by Useful_Idiot on Jun 22, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm replaying FFX for the third time
I love the battle system, even if Tidus is the most unlikable main character in video game history.
Also playing Psychonauts (very slowly, keep getting distracted by the ooh shiny of other games), and, of course, Rock Band 2.
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by Sammy Danger on Jun 22, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tidus has the most annoying voice ever. I’m working through FFX for the first time (I didn’t get a PS2 until recently), and I cringe during his scenes.
Also Psychonauts is totally awesome.
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by Natto on Jun 22, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate Tidus. The game should have just been Auron kicking everyone’s ass.
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by jponry on Jun 22, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously though
Auron would have been a much more interesting main character. Why do RPG main characters always have to be dudes between the age of 16-22? I want to play one where the main character is some grizzled old dude or even – gasp – a woman.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 22, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s Squeenix for you. FF XIII does have a female protagonist, but she’s pretty much a female version of Cloud (named Lightning….). It also has this guy:
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by Natto on Jun 22, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully that guy isn’t a huge walking racial stereotype like Barrett was but he looks pretty cool. I actually know next to nothing about FF13 – I still haven’t beaten 12 :(
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 22, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So far he just seems like a regular dude (who has a Chocobo chick living in his hair). We’ll see when the localization hits our shores though…
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by Natto on Jun 22, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, I hated 12. I just thought the battle system was tedious, and the dungeons were waaaay too long, so it took forever to get to new areas. Plus, the ending was unsatisfying, especially compared to FFX’s. FFX was as close to perfect as RPGs get, in my humble opinion
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by Useful_Idiot on Jun 22, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I enjoyed the parts of it I played but I found the story kind of underwhelming. I will finish it someday though.
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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 22, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
THERE ARE NO GIRLZ ON THE INTERNETS RPGS
GROUGTHINK ALERT
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by groug on Jun 22, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I started Final Fantasy: Echoes of Time for the DS. It’s pretty cool. I got Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon against my better judgment, and I was right. I hated it. Also picked up Personal Trainer: Cooking, which is AWESOME. It’s not a game, but a recipe compendium with 250 recipes, step by step instructions, video on how to prep various foods and video on cooking techniques, as well as an option to save shopping lists. I’m getting a ton of use out of it already.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 22, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve been playing Rome: Total War for the last six months. I’ve basically beat the long campaign using every playable faction. I don’t play fair though since exploit basically every AI inefficiency in the game. Also, MASS WAR ELEPHANTS!
Still in despair.
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by Zetsuboushita on Jun 22, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that game is awesome
I just upgraded my comp, and I’m stoked to play a huge battle in Empire (great, btw, if you haven’t tried it).
Also: what AI inefficiency? checks to see where the AI’s going to send their rams puts a couple of phalanxes in front wins battle 80 casualties to 800
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by Viliphied on Jun 22, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
gah
stupid auto formatting
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by Viliphied on Jun 22, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Empire looks great. Sadly, my laptop isn’t equipped to handle it. Well, theoretically I can barely run it, but why spoil the experience with horrible frame rates and overall poor performance?
Still in despair.
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by Zetsuboushita on Jun 22, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s pretty much what happened with my laptop, so I shelved it until I got my new desktop built, and I can’t wait to pick it back up again.
Do you play Rome stock, or do you use any mods? I know the Total Realism mod was pretty cool, and helped with some of the more glaring AI stupidity (though by no means all of it).
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by Viliphied on Jun 22, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just finished Resident Evil 5
It was really good. I still think RE2 is my favorite from the franchise, though. Next one up: Ghostbusters!
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
by thehavenot on Jun 22, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t explain why, but even though 4 and 5 had nearly identical controls, they felt great in 4 and clunky in 5 to me
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by Useful_Idiot on Jun 22, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only real problem I had with the controls was how slow the gun movement was when aiming. But that didn’t present any real problem to me.
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
by thehavenot on Jun 22, 2009 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didnt like how they cut out the shooting galleries and the combining of treasures, this game felt pretty mindless even for RE games
by Classy_Argonaut on Jun 23, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could never get into the RE series. The controls are kind of a turn off for me. I downloaded the RE5 demo, and it was kind of underwhelming. I hear that the demo doesn’t represent the game well though.
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by Natto on Jun 23, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
there's nothing like the original
scary as hell, especially if you were a kid when it first came out, great story despite terribly cheesy script, and pretty difficult to boot.
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by UnleashTheGore on Jun 23, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The controls took a while to get used to but ultimately I really enjoyed the game. I’m kinda limited to games that have split-screen co-op modes though. I’d put RE5 much lower than L4D, Rainbow 6 Vegas 2, GOW, and CODWAW but it was still pretty fun.
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by SF Pete on Jun 23, 2009 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
RE4 was amazingly good. RE5 was kinda meh.
by xanthan on Jun 23, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never was able to play RE4
because I never had any of the systems that RE4 was on. However, when I got RE5, I watched a playthrough on youtube so I knew what was going on. It looked basically the same, to me.
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
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by thehavenot on Jun 24, 2009 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are same-ish. I just felt that RE4 was executed better. RE5 felt dumber for some reason.
by xanthan on Jun 25, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never played RE games
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by say hey nation on Jun 23, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who keeps changin the subjects!!!! lol
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by i love sports101 on Jun 23, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess this is a good place to put this
I’ve never played a single Final Fantasy game.
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
by thehavenot on Jun 22, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly, they’re all a bit overrated but I still love them (well, IV, V, VI, VII, parts of VIII and IX.)
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by jponry on Jun 22, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Since I didn’t own an SNES or a Playstation, I was never that into the series growing up. I’ve played a lot of the games now and like them, but they aren’t anywhere close to being my favorite RPGs. Except for VI maybe.
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by Natto on Jun 22, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The localization could definitely use some serious work >.> Also, I hate FFIX over 9000 times more than I hate Juan Uribe.
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by Zetsuboushita on Jun 22, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really liked IX back when it came out but I haven’t played it in a long time. It’s certainly flawed.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 22, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/golf clap
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by UnleashTheGore on Jun 22, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
pffft the last video game I played was Tank, I think I was 12.
by Merope on Jun 22, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the side games/spinoffs way more than the main series. I have an unhealthy love for anything Tactics.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 23, 2009 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just started playing Zelda: The Wind Waker. Ba da buh ba buh I’m loving it.
by sakbaum on Jun 22, 2009 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m between games. I’m really behind on my console stuff because I’ve been playing old, old games recently. I just finished Paper Mario from the N64 days, and I’m probably going to work on finishing up Baten Kaitos from GC.
On the DS, I’m on the last five days of The World Ends With You, but I get this feeling like I’ve really already gotten all of the satisfaction I’m going to get out of that game. But I’m close to finishing, and I want to to finish it. But I don’t really want to play it. So that’s not really going anywhere right now. I’ll probably finish it sometime. I guess I’ll focus on the Wii/GC stuff for now.
I’m also in the middle of Bioshock, but it’s not my PS3 so I don’t play it very often. And I’m in the middle of Persona 3, but it’s not my PS2, so I don’t play it very often.
Buying the Conduit.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jun 22, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
let me know how it is if you get it soon
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by UnleashTheGore on Jun 23, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Madworld was a pretty fun action game on the wii. the controls were really easy to pick up and use
by Classy_Argonaut on Jun 23, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That Game
I’m making a sincere point of buying the games on Wii that I want to see developers look at and go, “oh, we CAN make a good game for this system!” It’s part of why I’m buying The Conduit even though I don’t generally play FPS. And Madworld should be one of those games, but right now it’s the only one that I’m abstaining from. There’s just something about it that doesn’t seem very interesting to me… somehow….
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by howtheyscored on Jun 23, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But it has Greg Proops and John Dimaggio!
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by Natto on Jun 24, 2009 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
MLB The Show is AWESOME
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by Azmanz on Jun 22, 2009 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
E.V.O. Search for Eden
Super simple RPG for the SNES made by Enix back in ‘93. The game’s a side scroller in which you play as an animal and eat other animals to earn Evo. P. and use them to choose different evolutions. Good times
by Classy_Argonaut on Jun 23, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
W cant repel trade proposals of this magnitude!
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by CB30 on Jun 22, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
EVACUATE THIS THREAD???
IN OUR MOMENT OF TRIUMPH?
by sayheybk on Jun 22, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Brian Sabean really did turn this deal down because of Fielder’s defense that’s kind of amusing. That’s our Sabes, even when he makes the right call it’s for the wrong reason.
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by JakeS on Jun 22, 2009 10:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s not too terrible a reason. His defense is a long-term problem.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
by rotorueter on Jun 22, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hai Gaiz
WHATS GOING ON IN THIZ THREAD
by jctGamer on Jun 22, 2009 10:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
WE IZ LAMENTING THE NATHAN FOR AJ TRADE, THAT SUCKED MIRITE?
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by UnleashTheGore on Jun 22, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BARBARO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Jun 22, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amazing
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by cornball on Jun 22, 2009 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So random
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by i love sports101 on Jun 23, 2009 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not again...
Here’s a small sample of the 12983457 Cain-for-Fielder proposals in the last nine months:
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2008/11/5/654707/cain-for-fielder-for-real
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2008/10/5/628776/why-i-think-the-giants-sho
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2008/9/26/622513/olney-thinks-giants-can-ge
It never occurred to me that one man could play with the faith of 50 million.
by imovermyhead on Jun 22, 2009 10:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
SMALL SAMPLE SIZE
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 22, 2009 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
very small, there’s gotta be at least 20 of them!
by Merope on Jun 22, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
TWSS
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Jun 22, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably
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by i love sports101 on Jun 22, 2009 11:07 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
GETRDONE GIANTZ BRASS!
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by Chulk on Jun 22, 2009 11:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
How about cain
for the the entire brewer org?
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Jun 22, 2009 11:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This is dumb.
Stupid is as Ruben Rivera does...
by bkrhater on Jun 22, 2009 11:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I would consider Cain for Ian Kinsler.
Or how about Cain and Ishi for JJ and Prince?
by ktice on Jun 22, 2009 11:44 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think trading Cain for any one position player is waiving a white flag on the season.
I’m of the opinion that this team needs two big bats be considered a top contender, even with the rotation we have now. If you trade Cain, then you’re counting on Tim2 and MADBum to pan out in in the coming years, but we would still need a second bat.
This is why I like picking up a 2nd baseman if someone big like Cain were to be moved, because down the line it would be much easier to pick up a 1st baseman (or corner outfielder or whatever) that can hit.
That being said why would you give up on this season right now?
by ktice on Jun 22, 2009 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by UnleashTheGore on Jun 22, 2009 11:44 AM PDT reply actions 8 recs
GREEN
"Well, um, actually a pretty nice little Saturday, we're going to go to Home Depot. Yeah, buy some wallpaper, maybe get some flooring, stuff like that. Maybe Bed, Bath, & Beyond, I don't know, I don't know if we'll have enough time."
by Azantor on Jun 22, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I find this to be true for many people
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by Useful_Idiot on Jun 22, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Green it!
Red should be be our offical spokesman on Gritty Gamers.
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on Jun 22, 2009 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy shit!!!
again I can’t stop laughin!!!
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by i love sports101 on Jun 23, 2009 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just for dicks
What would the Brewers want for Braun? I would give Cain, Alderson, Villalona, and an ML outfiielder of choice. They wouldnt accept that though
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by CB30 on Jun 22, 2009 11:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
what?
by FairweatherFan on Jun 22, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Screw that. Cain and Alderson and Villalona + another guy? I wouldn’t do that. You’re talking about one of the more dominant picthers this season, PLUS a pitcher who could be just as dominant in a couple years, PLUS a young power hitter who’s still what 18 or 19, not to mention he plays 1st base, where the Brewers would still have Prince Fielder… AND, you want to throw in Nate Schierholtz or Randy WInn. I like Braun, but he’s not THAT good… you’re talking about half our farm system.
Cain for Braun is almost a good straight up trade as is. If the Brewers were in the market to trade him, you might be able to do Cain, Winn and Thomas Neal. That way, you have a serviceable ML outfielder to replace Braun, who probably would be a defensive upgrade, a 21 year old in Neal, who’s tearing it up in San Jose (.342 BA, 13 HR’s 42 RBI’s, 1.038 OPS), and Cain, who would become the #1 pitcher on that team, despite having Yovani Gallardo
That would still be a great trade for the Brewers, and we’re not giving up any of our top prospects. I still like Cain though, I wish he wasn’t subject to all these trade rumors.
by aBulldog on Jun 22, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nate and Winn are not a big deal, I consider Nate(or Winn)/Alderson/AnVil for Braun. I wouldn’t also trade cain. However the Brewers would not make that trade.
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by say hey nation on Jun 22, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
just for kicks...
what if “another guy” was Zito instead, with the Giants paying none of his salary?
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by UnleashTheGore on Jun 22, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just to be different, I’ll give a serious answer.
Cain for Fielder would be a very fair trade — if anything, the Giants would be getting the best of it. But I wouldn’t make the trade, for several reasons:
1. Travis Ishikawa isn’t very good, but he’s probably better than whoever the Giants would dredge up to take Cain’s place in the rotation. So we would gain little, if anything.
2. Pablo Sandoval may be a first baseman in the long run.
3. Nick Johnson is also on the trading block. He’s nearly as good as Fielder and he wouldn’t cost us anywhere near as much.
4. I like Matt Cain.
by Evan on Jun 22, 2009 11:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I think what people who propose this trade are right on is that it’s a fair trade in a vacuum in a one-for-one thing, but when you take into account the repercussions of trading Cain, it just makes less sense.
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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 22, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and the fact that pretty much no one proposing this trade even looks at the Giants’ farm system situation just makes things worse.
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by UnleashTheGore on Jun 22, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, the guy here does claim that Alderson and Bumgarner are both major league ready, but it’s a MUCH bigger assumption than he thinks it is and a much bigger one than I’m willing to make right now. Why rush either of those two, who are clearly awesome but have fewer than 100 innings COMBINED in AA?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 22, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well if Alderson or Bumgarner can adequately replace Cain (per poster’s argument) why don’t we just trade Alderson or Bumgarner for Fielder. Hell, we can even throw in Ishikawa on that one.
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by thatdog on Jun 23, 2009 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t like Sandoval at 1st at all. I like having a tall guy who can stretch out to grab a couple badly thrown balls.
by aBulldog on Jun 22, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus, putting him at 1st is somewhat of a waste of his strong and accurate arm
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by Useful_Idiot on Jun 22, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
These would be my points as well. Pablo should be a catcher; he’s not too bad at 3B.
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by Lyle on Jun 22, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry Brew guy. We’re just a bit played out from the idea. I think you would have actually had more success before the season since Cain has been having a great year so far.
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by WalrusMan on Jun 22, 2009 12:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh the assholery!
I’ve never seen the McCoven so united before.
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by stealth snail on Jun 22, 2009 1:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
when I saw the title I was praying he was serious, just for the pure amusement of the replies. thank you backtocali, thank you.
by Fresburg on Jun 22, 2009 1:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Your welcom
Wasnt aware of the ad nauseum trade proposal this offeseason
by backtocali on Jun 22, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
I hope you don’t think all Giants fans are assholes. We are just a very frustrated fanbase that has had to deal with a lot of people saying the team should trade away one of its best players…with a result of not making the team much better.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Jun 22, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My wife is a lifelong Giants fan
I am a huge fan of them as well, but not in tune with the fans as much, as we live in Milwaukee. I was born here, she was born in the central valley.
by backtocali on Jun 22, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You could have proposed ANY other deal and the response would be much different
This deal was discussed into the ground this offseason, thats all
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by CB30 on Jun 22, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, but they all do Twitter during the game, apparently.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
by cheno on Jun 22, 2009 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmm?
Let’s see. Fielder for Cain and Ishikawa? It seems to me that Milwaukee gave up a better package last year for ONLY Sabathia – who had a worse record than Cain does now, and was going to be a FA at the end of the year. Why should we accept a worse package than Cleveland, and give up a 2nd player to boot? It seems to me that you’re valuing Fielder way too highly. I just don’t see Fielder being to last for the long term in the NL due to his poor physical condition. Not to mention that he’s one of those dreaded LH hitters in AT&T. We need a RH hitter who will be around for a long time at a reasonable price and prospect(s) to even begin to think of trading Cain. Right now great, young, cheap starting pitchers are in BIG demand. Trades are about supply and demend, not win values.
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by Fla-Giant on Jun 22, 2009 3:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Have we flashed back to November?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Jun 22, 2009 6:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m not your friend, buddy!
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by Viliphied on Jun 22, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No trade
We will flourish for several years with a rotation of lincecum, Cain, Bumgarner, and Alderson, unfortunately Zito remains the 5th starter. That leaves Sanchez in the pen. You can never have too many pitchers.
by bradleybear on Jun 22, 2009 9:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Pass
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
by baetown415 on Jun 22, 2009 10:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Are you daft?,Man
HOW quickly they forget the Gaylord Perry debacle.wost trade Giants ever made.Sudden Sam McDowell was here and gone,WE have to learn to keep our own.
by hoseby50 on Jun 22, 2009 11:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Malcolm McDowell.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jun 22, 2009 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Malcolm in the Middle
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
There's 3 ways to do something: the right way, the wrong way, and the Max Power/ Ginats Way...
by natteringnabob on Jun 23, 2009 7:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Middle Tennessee State University
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Jun 23, 2009 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OMG
I hte that show
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by i love sports101 on Jun 23, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
*hate
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by i love sports101 on Jun 23, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Daft" reminds me of Pirates of the Caribbean
Im sorry, but thats what I took away from this post, everything else went over my head.
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by CB30 on Jun 22, 2009 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For whatever reason, I associated it with Monty Python.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
by JRPhillips on Jun 23, 2009 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Judgment Day is coming
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by Natto on Jun 23, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
is this the Wall-E sequel?
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Jun 23, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
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by cornball on Jun 23, 2009 7:35 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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