Post-Game Recap: Matt Cain Is Good and the Cleanup Hitter Is Clutch
by Grant on Jun 20, 2009 9:43 PM PDT
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Before the Rangers series started, my unique brand of knowledge and expertise was sought by the Dallas Morning News, who don't just ask anybody to comm...
I emailed two Giants bloggers the same set of questions and both were kind enough to get back to me. Grant, from McCovey Chronicles, and Chris from Bay City Ball talked about the Giants.
Bloody heck. I felt so special for a short time.
At any rate, they asked about Matt Cain. My answer:
Same pitcher, more run support. That's the bulk of it. His fastball ranges from 91-95, and his curve and change are temperamental. His command comes and goes. All of that should tell you just how good that fastball is. It's a hard pitch to pick up. When he's throwing it a) for strikes and b) in the mid-90s, he's almost unhittable. That's what was going on in his last start against the A's.
Watching tonight...I'm not so sure. He sure seems like he has that certain je ne sais Cain that he's only hinted at before. Sure, his performance with runners in scoring position doesn't seem sustainable -- for example, Jarrod Saltalamalachhicala had a great at-bat with RISP, only to hit a ball 153 MPH right at Randy Winn -- but there's something comforting in the way Cain quietly goes through a lineup a second and third time.
In the latest issue of Giants Magazine, I penned a little love letter to Matt Cain. Because I have to write the danged things two months in advance, I was a little worried about it. What if Cain had a rough May? What if he had four straight appearances with six-plus walks? My fears were a little justified, as the column seems just a little out of place. But it's because Cain's been so good. My appeal to appreciate Matt Cain comes off as a "Hey, you know what's really useful? This water stuff we're all drinking"-kind of column.
Matt Cain: Good.
I wrote this right after Cain left the game, about sixteen hours ago. I was going to throw a prediction in about winning on a wild pitch that our intrepid cleanup hitter thought he could hit, but it was just so obvious.
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Just popped in to say
WOW! That was crazy.
by paboperfecto on Jun 20, 2009 9:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Obligatory
LOL RANGERS
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by CB30 on Jun 20, 2009 9:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So Millwood no hits us again tomorrow?
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by rxmeister on Jun 20, 2009 9:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Its like im there!
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by CB30 on Jun 20, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ice-T: The Devil?
Not Ice-T: Welcome to Hell.
Me: Wait, what in the heck is Ice-T doing on Law and Order?
But it does remind me of the time my mom picked up my walkman, wondering what a 11-year-old kid would listen to in 1988, and being treated to the first few bars of Ice-T’s classic hymn, “Girls Let’s Get Butt Naked and Fuck”.
by Grant on Jun 20, 2009 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
have you ever seen his girlfriend Coco? Kim Kardashian has nothing on her
by jctGamer on Jun 20, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
they're actually married
very classy marriage
by superk1ng on Jun 20, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The first time I saw Ice T on Law and Order (it is my wife’s TV crack equivalent to Giants baseball) I turned to her and belt out " Who hold the power? It’s not you or me but the man the watch tower." Yet somehow she still keeps me. Woman can be wonderfully strange.
Yes, This is still a 79 win squad.
Where is my beer & chili dog?
by daveinexile on Jun 21, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/ golf clap
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by daveinexile on Jun 21, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol xanthan
I <3 Matt Cain
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by jponry on Jun 20, 2009 9:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I like it when the baseball team I root for scores more runs than its opponent.
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by groug on Jun 20, 2009 9:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Even if they are pathetic runs
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by CB30 on Jun 20, 2009 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pathetic?
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by The Thrill on Jun 20, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is www13.glam.com and why does SBN keep waiting and waiting and waiting for it to load, thus torpedoing my connection?
by Merope on Jun 20, 2009 9:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
from the article
Posted by Will S. @ 2:38 PM Fri, Jun 19, 2009
If I had to guess, Sandoval is destined to be a Jeff Francoeur-type player with far more hitting ability. His .330 average is buoyed by his .359 BAbip and doesn’t correspond with his 16 LD%. He actually walks less than Francoeur. He strikes out significantly less, though. By the way, he only has 10 unintentional walks this year, not 13. He sees 3.32 P/PA for his career. Random stats, horrible scouting report on my part.
HOW DARE YOU
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by jponry on Jun 20, 2009 9:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
There is nothing wrong with a .359 BABIP
Hitters don’t correspond to BABIP the same way pitchers do. Good hitters will always have a high BABIP.
Also this guy has never heard of the ground attack
by jctGamer on Jun 20, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guys who hit a ton of DINGERZ can actually have BAs in the .300s whilst having lower BABIPs. But guys like Sandoval might not be true talent .330 hitters but they will have years where they hit .330 and sustain a .359 BABIP or w/e.
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by jponry on Jun 20, 2009 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only one active player who’s played for at least 5 years has a career BABIP as high as .359 – Derek Jeter (.360), a groundball machine with well above average footspeed. I’m sure Sandoval can keep it around .330 or something, but .359 is a stretch.
Also, good hitters don’t always have a high BABIP – Bonds is a career .288.
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:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 21, 2009 2:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In which I feel entitled to laugh at misplaced optimism despire rooting for the Giants and Niners
Posted by Rett Davis @ 5:13 PM Fri, Jun 19, 2009
Keep in mind that our pitchers have been pretty good. Also, Houston which I would say is quite a bit stronger than SF in the lineup department made our pitchers look pretty good. I say that the Rangers have a big advantage in the series just because of the fact their lineup will make our pitchers look like all-stars and in turn give them and the offense more confidence. I can be accused and convicted of being an optimist…. so sue me.
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by groug on Jun 20, 2009 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ONLY ONE OF THEIR PITCHERS HAS LOOKED LIKE ALL-STARS
POINT GIANTS
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by groug on Jun 20, 2009 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
THAT PITCHER LOOKED LIKE SIX ALL STARS THOUGH WHICH WAS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE.
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by jponry on Jun 20, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you can’t blame Texas fans for hating us right now. Get swept by the Angels and knock off their team two nights in a row.
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by rxmeister on Jun 20, 2009 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol the texas fans
are asking us to trade first basemen with them
by jctGamer on Jun 20, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll take Smoak
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by jponry on Jun 20, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right now
Chris Davis for Ishikawa. I’d do it. Like yesterday.
by jctGamer on Jun 20, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plunk Davis in AAA, try to figure out a lineup that doesn’t include Bowker butchering first base. Yeah, I’d do it.
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by cornball on Jun 21, 2009 7:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
funny how the other man’s grass is always greener. They can keep Davis.
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by rxmeister on Jun 21, 2009 7:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They look like us with a few more personal attacks.
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by groug on Jun 20, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is what happens when Texas messes with Texas.
by satyricrash on Jun 20, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Richie played first tonight, I'd trade him in a millisecond.
And oh by the way, they swear a lot on that board and are really testy.
Noonan. Nooooonan!
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Jun 20, 2009 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank goodness this site wouldn’t allow crap like that to take place. All they do is personally attack each other and swear. So uncouth…
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by zuma420 on Jun 20, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ishikawa isn't the worst starting 1B?
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by Azmanz on Jun 20, 2009 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like we don’t need to trade Cain for Davis after all!
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by Natto on Jun 20, 2009 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, that was a bad idea. Who came up with that?
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:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 21, 2009 2:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Makes you really appreciate Grant and the McCoven
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by Giant among Angels on Jun 21, 2009 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This. Almost everytime I read one of the other SBN blogs, I really appreciate McC.
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by nvsfg on Jun 21, 2009 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
wouldn’t “a Jeff Francoeur-type player with far more hitting ability” have been much easier to say as “a very good hitter who won’t draw very many walks”?
Thing A
by sam23 on Jun 20, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
obligatory
justin morneau type hitters
by jctGamer on Jun 20, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that wild pitch was actually strike three on Molina. He swung when Jennings did the fake to third and look at first trick.
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by rxmeister on Jun 20, 2009 9:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Matt’s K/9 has inched up to about ~7.3 now and his walk rate is at about 3.5, the lowest of his career so far.
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by jponry on Jun 20, 2009 9:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
GW
if only Bush still owned the Rangers!
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
by greatgiantfan on Jun 20, 2009 10:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Grant, start penning that Nate love letter now, hopefully it will be similarly out of place in a couple months.
Thing A
by sam23 on Jun 20, 2009 10:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I really would like to see Nate in right field a lot more until Winn figures things out.
by OTTOMATIC on Jun 20, 2009 10:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
but then who is gonna pop out 3 or 4 times a game?
Thing A
by sam23 on Jun 20, 2009 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Richie
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 20, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
seriously though
why aren’t Winn and FLew the ones competing for the last regular OF spot?
Thing A
by sam23 on Jun 20, 2009 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
VETERAN PREZENCE
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by jponry on Jun 20, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lewis is out-hitting both Schierholtz and Winn.
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:-(
by Cookyman on Jun 21, 2009 2:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s only because Lewis started the season hot, while Nate was rotting on the bench. You can’t say that Lewis is a better bet than Nate right now.
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by rxmeister on Jun 21, 2009 7:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The way Fred hit at the beginning of the year counts too. And Nate, for all of his hot streak, still isn’t walking and has a lower ISO than Fred. A sub-.300 OBP with a .270 BA is pretty awful.
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by jponry on Jun 21, 2009 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NATE DUZN’T WALK CUZ NATE LIKE TO RUNZ.
from bochy’s laptop:
…//roster/bench/thatoneguywhosenameiforget/inside-the-park-dinger.exe
by sayheybk on Jun 21, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see the appeal with Schierholtz
He’s a guy that would have to hit well over .300 to be a decent player because he never walks. It seems like his best case scenario would be Jeff Francoeur.
by superk1ng on Jun 21, 2009 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BTW The keys to the game worked
Scored more runs than the opposing team
by jctGamer on Jun 20, 2009 10:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bip’s got this game wired with all his “Inside Baseball” knowledge and all.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
by tobias on Jun 20, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bowkermania is ALIVE
John Boy goes 4-5 tonight with a couple of dingers for Fresno tonight
by wilriv21 on Jun 20, 2009 10:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Jacks 0-2
Only hitting .217
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by groug on Jun 20, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Burriss and Velez hitting .358!!
Combined!!
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
by tobias on Jun 20, 2009 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You think someone would realize Bowker is as hot as you can get and he might actually be able to help the big club when some games.
by OTTOMATIC on Jun 20, 2009 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you DFA Aurilia and bring up Bowker, he’s going to rot on the bench. Nate hasn’t even gotten a fair shot yet, so why would you bypass him for Bowker at this point? And Ishi has been hot lately, while his defense is miles ahead of Bowker. Bowker should stay at Fresno and keep raking until next year when Randy Winn is out of here.
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by rxmeister on Jun 21, 2009 7:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he speaks the truth.
They clear out that OF on the 25 man by 1-2 players THEN bring up Bowkermania. Let Bowker play every day and keep reinforcing his new plate discipline ways.
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by daveinexile on Jun 21, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I missed the gameday thread but
Did people believe Schierholz gets to third if the fan doesn’t touch the ball?
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by Azmanz on Jun 20, 2009 10:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Just depends, that ball was going pretty hard into the wall. A bad hop could’ve easily put him at 3rd.
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by NateisGreat on Jun 20, 2009 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think so
They thought there was a chance that something could go wrong which would have gotten Nate to third, and they were bitter at the fan for taking that away, but I don’t think they expressed that idea as a sure thing.
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by groug on Jun 21, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was at game, and the 3rd base line (imaginarily) runs right through my seats
While I curse all stupid fans always and everywhere, I think he would have had a natural double and would not have even tried for 3rd. The LF was on his way over and fairly close. I don’t think Nate would have even tried for 3rd.
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by Mayor of 311 on Jun 21, 2009 1:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess home team announcers see what they want to see. The Texas announcers thought they might have a play on Nate at second if the fans don’t touch that ball.
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by rxmeister on Jun 21, 2009 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really? That's very funny!
No, there is no way there would have been a play at 2b. That is too funny. There is a ton of social science research out there (as well as just tons of common experience) that our perceptions are skewed by our preferences— that is just a great, great example. I wish I had audio of both announcers to go over the video of that. It would be a great demo tool when I’m trying to explain that to audiences or clients.
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by Mayor of 311 on Jun 21, 2009 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You shold be able to get the audio off the achive feed.. no?
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by daveinexile on Jun 21, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
While I curse all stupid fans always
I hope they tossed that MORAN!!1
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by Giant among Angels on Jun 21, 2009 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t know he signed already!
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by Natto on Jun 21, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also...
Cain is a much better pitcher this year. The old Cain constantly found ways to get himself in trouble. The new Cain finds ways to get out of trouble. The fact that he is getting run support is what people will talk about, but he is definitely pitching a lot better, too.
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by NateisGreat on Jun 20, 2009 10:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Part of it is certainly luck – a sub-.100 BA with RISP is just not sustainable no matter who you are. But I don’t think anyone can deny that he’s on a roll right now (and his peripherals are beginning to get in line with his ERA as well – I mean, not a 2.2 ERA but a good ERA.)
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by jponry on Jun 20, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Consistency
i’m telling you. I’m onto something here.
by jctGamer on Jun 20, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He looks about the same to me.
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by Giant among Angels on Jun 21, 2009 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this year he is bit more willing to let he defense try and make outs. Last year he to seemed ( to me) to think he had either K them or get them to fly out to the OF.
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by daveinexile on Jun 21, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buy low on Davis!
They seem to hate that guy on (Rangers blog). They seem almost more bitter then us, which is weird.
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by CB30 on Jun 20, 2009 11:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I dunno, he seems pretty similar to Mike Jacobs, who we could have had last year, and chose not to go for.
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by NateisGreat on Jun 20, 2009 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe someday we'll be more bitter, then them.
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by Mayor of 311 on Jun 21, 2009 1:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we have been the last two years. Texas hasn’t been a serious contender in awhile, and now when it seems like they are, the fans can see that their good start was just an illusion. I don’t blame them for being disappointed.
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by rxmeister on Jun 21, 2009 7:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
(I was mocking CB30's then/than thing.)
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by Mayor of 311 on Jun 21, 2009 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Subtle?
What? No then/than snarky response?
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by Giant among Angels on Jun 21, 2009 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That wasn't a then/than snarky response??? I am clearly slipping.
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by Mayor of 311 on Jun 21, 2009 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got it
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by groug on Jun 21, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As did I. I was expecting something a little less subtle.
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by Giant among Angels on Jun 21, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on
It was late and i was GIDDY about the win. Cut me some slack
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by CB30 on Jun 21, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know anything about Davis, but for all the crap Freddie gets for his K’s, how would Giants fans treat a guy who already has 100 on the year?
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by norcalnick on Jun 21, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was my white whale back when he was killing the ball in 2008
/ducks
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by CB30 on Jun 21, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like Cain got jobbed a few times late in the game. Those back to back walks shouldn’t have been walks.
But Nate won it and it was good.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 20, 2009 11:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Good job, groug!
You may live.
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by Natto on Jun 20, 2009 11:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’ll admit that I had some worrying moments there.
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The Dallas Morning News asked for your what now?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
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by baetown415 on Jun 21, 2009 12:07 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
WHAT NO JUAN URIBE REFERENCE? I’M GLAD TO SEE YOU HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT XANTHAN.
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by Zetsuboushita on Jun 21, 2009 12:21 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
The Rangers site has multiple quasi-serious “SIGN BONDS” posts generating a lot of discussion because they need to “jump start their offense”
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by stealth snail on Jun 21, 2009 12:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I was at the game. During the 7 hour pregame ceremony, when Krukow was introducing the Giants brass, there was noticeable boos when Brian Sabean was introduced.
by SFGuy on Jun 21, 2009 12:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I swear he could lead the Giants to a World Series title and people would still boo him.
by Hobbes2d on Jun 21, 2009 1:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lead the Giants to a what?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
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by baetown415 on Jun 21, 2009 3:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
on a quasi-related note
when Clemens gave his thanks to RJ, I couldn’t even hear it due to all the boos aimed at him.
by Link on Jun 21, 2009 1:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
I flipped off the Jumbotron.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 21, 2009 1:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How did you get access to the controls?
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by Natto on Jun 21, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That ceremony did go on for a hell of a long time. But it was cool cos they had awesome old dudes there.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 21, 2009 1:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im a little pissed Cain wasn’t able to get the win, but the Giants winning is wayyyyyyyyy better than losing that game. That would have sucked big time, especially when Cainer pitched so damn well.
by Hobbes2d on Jun 21, 2009 1:08 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it is hilarious
That the rangers fans are going on and on and on bitching about their offense when they have like 5 guys OPSing over .800.
Gimme a break.
There are like 8 dudes in that lineup who could bat cleanup for the Giants.
by FairweatherFan on Jun 21, 2009 1:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know about David Murphy. Maybe not Andrus, either. He might not bat clean-up for us. Everyone else would, and Hamilton and Jones weren’t even in the line-up.
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by cornball on Jun 21, 2009 7:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They’re not used to this “no DL” thing
by jctGamer on Jun 21, 2009 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Btw : Matt Cain's Fastball velocity
Matt Cain laughs at the “loss of velocity” talk
His average fastball is now at 91.9 MPH. Last year? 92 MPH.
It has been trending upwards CONSISTENTLY~
by jctGamer on Jun 21, 2009 1:26 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Matt’s almost at the point where all of the early season concerns about him are no longer really an issue.
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PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Jun 21, 2009 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by groug on Jun 21, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Btw
Since there is a stat for “holds” and “quality starts” perhaps there should be a stat for “win that wasn’t a win but if he didn’t pitch so well there’s no way in hell the team would have won” stat as well.
by Rorsavelt on Jun 21, 2009 3:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We have a quality start stat
How about a super quality start stat … when pitchers go 8 innings and give up 1 freakin run and still don’t win.
by Shoeless on Jun 21, 2009 6:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We already have a stat for that. It’s called a Cain.
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by cornball on Jun 21, 2009 7:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, as I recall, if a young, promising pitcher pitches well enough to win under ordinary circumstances but is done in by any or all of the following:
A) Blown save or poor relief appearance by Veteran Savvy player
B) Poor at-bat by VSP (GIDP, failing to move runner along, etc.)
C) Error or passed ball by VSP
D) Inexplicable double-switch or other dubious maneuver by Veteran Savvy Manager.
Then said young pitcher is credited with a “Sabean”.
"There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live - too rare to die."
by younghutch on Jun 21, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/flashes back to the 5th grade
“your momma is sooooo fat…..”
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Jun 21, 2009 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
todays lineup
CF Rowand
SS Renteria
RF Winn
3B Sandoval
1B Ishikawa
LF Lewis
2B Downs
C Whiteside
P Zito
by superk1ng on Jun 21, 2009 11:12 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Can we give Winn a day off? Bat Lewis 3rd and Nate 6th
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Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Jun 21, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Rowand should sit. Winn has good numbers against Millwood. Rowand is 0-8. Bochy is so predictably awful with his lineups. He at least got close this time, but he should have sat Rowand, played Nate in right and put Winn in center.
by out machine on Jun 21, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
If MOLINA NO CLEANUP WINN MUST PLAY Wy IS AUERILIA NOT PLAY*NG GINATA BERAZZZZZ
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
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by natteringnabob on Jun 21, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess Zito’s going back to the non-Molina catcher…
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 21, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
unfortunately
it’s STILL not the best catcher on the roster…
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
There's 3 ways to do something: the right way, the wrong way, and the Max Power/ Ginats Way...
by natteringnabob on Jun 21, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably just worked out that it’s a day game after a night game. blah blah blah
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Jun 21, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BUT,
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Jun 21, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anybody else think they should move Winn down in the lineup until he fixes himself?
yippie-ki-yay-mo-fo's.
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by Die Hard on Jun 21, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anybody else think they should move Winndown inout of the lineup until he fixes himself?
I don’t get why Nate and Fred can’t rotate around more often with Winn sitting sometimes. Particularly when OMG RIGHTHANDED PITCHER RUN LEFTIEZ.EXE
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
There's 3 ways to do something: the right way, the wrong way, and the Max Power/ Ginats Way...
by natteringnabob on Jun 21, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This lineup does a fine job of not featuring Rich Aurilia.
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by younghutch on Jun 21, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Truth
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by groug on Jun 21, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Renteria and Winn should be hitting 6-7 not 2-3. I am sick of this automatic top of the lineup. Bochy has a giant head with no brain. And why does Winn play at all against lefties? Do the Giants Brass not see the .102 righthanded average? Snow was hitting better than that righty when he gave up switch hitting.
by SFGiantsD on Jun 21, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
most of the lineup should be hitting 6 and 7.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 21, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He asked me for my insight on Jason Grilli as well
Seems to be his method of research
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by Poseidon's Fist on Jun 21, 2009 5:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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